 Welcome to Church of the Chair. We celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host, E, here today with my co-host, Chad Lutsky, and we are currently working on a book called Planet Caravan. It's a collaboration process. This show series, whatever you wanna call it, is meant to either motivate, inspire, or to just give you someone to hang out with during the day, whatever you wanna use this for. If you wanna use it to get your own work done, or if you just want to chill and listen to two dudes type, then here we are for you. Anyways, sorry we were so late today. We got another very powerful conversation, like we always do, and we went on way too long. My apologies to everyone that is still in here because big asshole move on my part, not paying attention to the time, and we just kept on talking and kept on talking, but that's all my fault, because I just kept on going. Chad had nothing to do with it. Chad's completely fucking into it. That's not true. Yes, it is. Yes, it is, because I'm the one who rambles. All you gotta do is watch the show, we're still arguing. All you gotta do is watch the show, Chad. You can hear me talk over you all the time. People say, why don't you let Chad talk? And I'm like, because I don't like him. He's always fucking wrong, that's why. Anyways, good morning, Jordan. Good morning, Viking. Let's hear, anybody else sitting here? See, actually it's all Viking's fault because he said, you're fine, take your time. Yeah, it's all his fault. He gave me to go ahead, so we were back there just a puffin' and a puffin'. Anyways, so, this is all you've done. Okay, when I say that, I always cringe because I don't expect you to be working on this every single second. My question is literally, is the highlight of stuff all you have done since last time? Yeah. Okay, it's not like, you ain't done shit, you're a fight. Yeah, no, I mean, to be fair, man, I do need to work more off-camera on this so that I can catch up because I can tell, you have some very valid excuses for not knowing what the heck to write at this point, and I get it. But I have been doing a lot of graphic design stuff in the last week and a half. Dude, I'm not pressed over this. When you told me that you were fine with me running ahead, then I'm, but if I do not want to get into a position, hey, Jordan, Viking, I was kidding. Anyways, you're probably kidding too, but I just don't want to be put in a position where I'm just writing a bunch of stuff that you are either not going to like or that goes places that, because it's a waste of both of our time. You having to double write that stuff. Luckily right now, it's kind of in, I know where I'm going and I know what I'm doing now because I still have to, I still have to do the first phone call. And then after that, I was actually gonna ask for next week off and then let you go ahead and get caught up. Me too. But I would, really? Yeah. See? We don't disagree all the time. Wow, that's so weird. Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking about that as far as like, I should, or at least like Monday through Thursday and then maybe Friday we'll pop in for a few hours and see how, and then get Saturday and Sunday off. Yeah, wow. Because if I'm, no Matt, even if I'm here and you're where I'm fucking distracting, I understand that, you know, I talk, you'll be in the middle of something, but the only thing that makes me feel better about that is you do the same thing. Like I'll be in the middle of a sentence and you'll pop in. So I do worry about that sometimes though. I'm like, I'm fucking distracting him. He needs to concentrate. He's not like you. He's not just over here vomiting words all over the place. Y'all gonna make me write a loan? Next, unless Chad wants to go live by himself. He's gotta get caught up, man. I'm nearly 25 pages ahead of him. I do go live by myself and nobody comes. Aw, y'all suck. Yeah, go support Chadwick. I'll get one, I mean, I've had, I think I think four people in there at one time, like I live streamed the other night. I live streamed the other night and there was one person in there that finally popped in. And it happens. It's not a big deal. I was on, but nothing will humble you quicker. I'm not used to having zero people in chat, right? Nothing will humble you quicker than being used to at least seeing people talking or whatever and, you know, you're talking to them. You're going back and forth. You're also trying to be entertaining while you're streaming. Nothing will humble you quicker than looking over and seeing a zero count and you've been talking to chat the whole fucking time and there's nobody there. Nothing will humble you quicker than that. That should happen to me on Twitch the other night and I was just like, damn. Then I thought, then I started thinking about it. I was like, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Just people are going to come back and watch it. You'll be able to use it for highlight videos, all that stuff. But at the same time I'm sitting there. It's like, it's no different than me recording a video and talking to a camera because nobody's watching me then. I talk to the camera just like it's the audience anyways. So anyways. Yeah, Chad's got his own channel. He's also, he's got podcasts. He's got, do you still have paleo cheese? I know about Bleeding Page, but do you still have paid? Not actively, no. I mean, the videos are still up, but yeah. We do Bleeding Page, a new episode this Sunday, I think, with Travis Baldery. Really good show. And then I got my final guys thing that I do every Tuesday night. I finally tricked him into talking about all the shit he does. Usually I'm like, Chad, you want to promote yourself? He's like, no, fuck off, stop asking me. I don't care, but I got to do it. No, in final guys, we get nearly 30 people in there every Tuesday. And that's very, very active chat, which is nice. That's really good. I mean, I would say anybody who gets 10 people on the regular, that's really good. And I have noticed that if I have more than 25 or so people in there, well, it depends on how many of those people are chatting, but over 20 people, chat is insane. Like I have to scroll to go back to old messages because I can't keep up. I didn't know Chad, yeah, all right. Yes, go sub to Chad. Also, all of his stuff is, I hope your channel is linked in your website because that's the only information you gave me. It's like, just go to ChadLudzky.com. So Chad, put a comment on Discord. If you're going live, I'll watch if I can. Yeah, do that, definitely. Just click, I'll do it for you. Like at everyone, Chad Ludzky is alive right now. Hopefully. I'm thinking about doing the Twitch thing. I've got some friends that do it. You just started doing it and it's the learning curve that stops me at this point, I think. I'm not going to lie and I don't want to put you off of it, but it has taken me a month to figure out the most simple shit. It's nothing like YouTube. There's a lot, and the reason for that is there's a lot more stuff over there. There's a lot of stuff. It's overwhelming, but it gives the viewer a better experience. Over here on YouTube, it's all about the creator and making the creators experience the best. Over on Twitch, it is all about the audience and that's one of the things I'm having to wrap my brain around is you got to keep the people engaged and you got to keep the people happy or else you're not going to bring anybody in. You got to have games, you got to have stuff for them to use channel points on. You got to do good in the game so that you get bits and cheers and subs and all this stuff. There's a lot, there's a lot. You got to compete with all the hot chicks who are licking their microphones. Exactly, that too. All the breasting boobily as they play the Fortnite. So you got to compete with that because neither one of us are eye candy. I mean, I'm not trying to be rude, but no one is signing up to this fucking stream to come stare at our faces. But anyways, yeah, it's a mess, but it's worth it. So I am really the booba streamers, yeah. Plus I don't, well the same thing with my Patreon page. I was like, man, should I start a Patreon page? Cause I thought if I start one and nobody signs up, I'll be really embarrassed. And I think I've had up to 56 patrons at one time and they wax and wane, you know, go back and forth. And I did the same thing with YouTube. Should I try this live thing? Because if nobody shows up, I'll feel like an idiot. I feel like that about book signings too. I don't want to do a book signing. I just sit there and feel like a freaking idiot because nobody is coming to my table. Here's, I know you're older than me by a decade or more. I'm not sure how much older. I'm gonna give you some life advice. Just fucking do it. No one cares other than you really. And the other people, the people who are gonna care are gonna be like trolls that are gonna throw it in your face. That's why you don't have any followers. And those people would never follow you anyways. They're just assholes. So I'm telling you, man, whatever you were falling back away from, all because you don't wanna look like an idiot or an embarrassment or whatever online, you're stunting yourself. Because one of the things that I learned is people love watching people fail and then succeed. They love that shit. And one of the main things that taught me that oddly enough is video games. You get in there and you watch these people play games or you're playing the game yourself and you get frustrated, the game's hard and you're just keep pressing forward and people are giving you the confidence and the motivation and the encouragement. It's like, you can do this. You can fucking do this, you know, so on and so forth. And then when you finally do it, it's so much better because they've been watching you struggle for the past however long. It's finally, they get to see your come up. People love that shit. I don't know what it is about that, but people love to see someone fail and then pick themselves up again. As in just as much as they like to see people succeed and fall, they like both ends of that spectrum. So I'm just throwing out some friendly advice. Do it. I don't have the, I don't have the- Just dance. I'm not charismatic either. So I'm just like, unless you know me really well and they're really well like my kids and my friends are on here. Yeah, you're definitely a straight man. And then they think I'm the most hilarious thing that's ever been, but other than too chill, I think for- You're 100% the Tommy Lee Jones to my Will Smith. You're 100% that. So yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, cause you're fucking hilarious. You're funny as shit, but usually it's like a one off like, you know, right at the perfect time. Whereas I'm just like my writing, I'm vomiting all over the place. Just words, words, words, words, words, hoping that something in there is going to hit you, wait for the perfect moment and then strike. You know, you talk just like you write, you're methodical. Me, I'm scatterbrained in me, entering and just completely a clusterfuck up here. And I'm going to get all the thoughts out of my head right the fuck now. Anyways, but yeah. But yeah, you're definitely, you're definitely a, what are you K? Is that, is that a Tommy Lee Jones name men in black? I think that's his name. I'm not sure, but that's a good analogy. And then J, yeah, you're 100% dude. You were, you were my Tommy Lee Jones, not in your Will Smith, but anyways. And now I'm going to, I'm going to hear it again because I've already cut you off like seven times and only been live for 12 minutes. I'm going to, I'm going to hear it again. You remember that Chad talk, Chad's volume's too, let me, let me stop. That was, that was a, that was an actual good complaint or criticism. Vampbat said, I can't hear him. I would, I just want to be able to hear you. It's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Vamp, Vamp's a quote unquote complaint. I don't like calling it a complaint, but the request that, you know, Chad bump his mic up. I was, I was so sad. Oh, I get it. I get it. They were so nice about it too. Instead of like, I can't fucking hear Chad, you big dummy. You know, they, I've gotten a shit like that too. So it's really nice when someone is respectful. I cannot stand it when I'm listening to a podcast and like the guy, you know, their, their levels are off. The host is too loud. And then I have to, because I can't keep turning it up and down the, then I'm pissed at the host cause he'll allow mouth and just so that I can hear the, so I get it. Yeah. That's why I don't go to movies anymore. Cause you can't hear anybody talk over the bass rumble. All, all movies have it now. Even like dramas have that and you can't hear anything. It's like, it's mood music. It's not like it's not like that, but they usually have something. A24 is absolutely fucking terrible about it. All action movies these days, all the Marvel movies, all that stuff. It's absolutely horrendous. You can't hear shit. Dune was the worst. Dune is the remake of Dune was the one that made me stop going to theaters because I didn't hear a goddamn word whatsoever. Anyone was saying, I ended up renting it, not renting it, watching it when it hit whatever streaming service it was on. I think it was HBO, but that doesn't matter. And I was watching like with the captions on, it's like, hey, this actually isn't that bad of a movie. I hated it the first time. This ain't that bad. I mean, it's still like a three star movie, but it ain't that bad before I'd give it like a one or a two. But once I finally was able to hear what they were saying, I was like, okay. Well, not here, but read what they were saying. I was like, that ain't so bad. I was like, why the fuck are they doing that? Why the fuck are they doing this? That didn't happen in the book. I don't have any context for this because I can't hear anybody fucking talk. I have a, I haven't until noon, my time. Yeah. Which isn't only an hour and 10 minutes, but I got some radio podcast thing to do. And then I'm supposed to, but that's not tonight. But before that, I'm supposed to do, having like a Halloween DIY decorating party thing with these a couple of years ago, my wife and I took these like skulls that you're from dollar store, the plastic white skulls. And we got one right here. I'll show you. Yeah, show me. Let's talk about Chad while he's away. Let's say bad things about Chad. We're having our kids over with their significant others and showing them how to do this thing where you take paint, glue and toilet paper and you take those cheap things and make your own mummies. Yeah, I knew where it was going because I just watched a TikTok like, not even like two days ago. I think it was yesterday, showing you how to make one of those. That's awesome, dude. Yeah. That is so fucking cool. Toilet paper, but yeah, they turn out, they turn out really, really cool. Yeah. I've got another one, but I think my wife's gonna take it out of here. That's what, that's what Lon Cheney used back in the day for his makeup was. Great paper, I think. Some of it was just tissue paper. Not toilet paper, but tissue paper. But yeah, crepe paper. He used to make his own paper mache to do his mass, all that stuff. Chad is great. I'm not listening to you eat. I know. Chad's wonderful. I got nothing bad to say about Chad. I have nothing bad to say about Chad. Even when I disagree with him or I think something is, you know, off, whatever. And I'm sure he has those moments with me. You know, whatever it might be, I still love Chad to death. It's not gonna change anything. We can disagree all day every day. I don't give a fuck. So because I know deep down he is a decent ass person. And that's all that matters to me. So, yeah, so I have to get up. I know you, so go ahead and get to work. I have to get up. Yeah, I'm gonna jump right in. Yeah, go ahead and do that. And when I get back, I'm gonna try and ride a little bit, but I'm not gonna ride too much because I don't even think I'm gonna do the first phone call. I think we're gonna get all the way to that. You know, I'll let you catch up and then I'll do the first phone call to see how much you change. And if there's anything else that Shane can talk to Cassidy about that you add, because right now all I really have in my mind is you up until the working with Kay. So anyways, get to work. I'll be back in about 15 minutes. Okay. I'm sorry. That's no problem. Lost my balance, fell out. Yeah. My browser crash, man. Yeah. It happened about the same time yesterday or the day before this. Yeah, while you were gone. That's, yeah. I see how it is. It happened right after you left. I was like, oh, great. I gotta sit here for 15 minutes. It's a setup. It's a trap. Hey, Boggle, how you doing? Okay, I am at the end of, I'm at the spot where the whistle sound happens and the crap goes down with the the deportment or whatever you want, the raid. Yeah. Now, we had talked about writing, if you can, if you want to write something right, if you can't think of something to write right now, maybe we talked about establishing Carla. Yeah, more of Carla before she's taken away so that there's a loss felt there. And it's a bit more dramatic. Okay. And maybe having, yeah, him go over there, run the bumper cars. And quite honestly, if we could have a whole night of fun where he's like running that with Carla, they're getting to know each other and maybe the next day is when it happens. Okay. I'm still gonna go over this stuff right here and it'll be used for later or whatever. Okay. So essentially you'd be writing from the end of his time with Kay and then moving on to, going to see Mingo, I guess, or? Oh, I get you. I'm just going back and reading the Carla stuff to refresh her in my brain. Also, I was thinking about a time jump pretty soon after he gets set up with the bumper cars and we have the first, because a lot of carnival life is oddly enough monotonous and boring. So we get all this set up and do the first phone call and then literally skip a couple, maybe I don't know how long, maybe trying to think of how long it would take for addicts to go through a half a break. I'm thinking about a week, two weeks at most if they're using it constantly, which they're gonna be and then jump to, in the future, have a couple other things happen and then have him do the second phone call with Cassidy and get the plot moving, you know? It's like, all right, well, they, you know, and it's as easy as Cassidy would be like, they don't know where you're at, but if, you know, something maybe, but if they find out, it's gonna be easy to track this carnival because you're gonna know where their next location is kind of thing. And then it can be, I guess, assumed that Cassidy snitches on him just because, you know, maybe they, I don't know, any number of things, maybe they even, they're so withdrawal fueled rampage, maybe they actually, you know, get rid of Cassidy and that's not revealed until the end and then we have to double punch with Sam. So I don't know if you wanna go down that route or not, but they, I'm thinking they get the information out of Cassidy somehow. The only problem with that is how do we denote that to the reader without doing some kind of monologuing bullshit at the end. Well, he could just say, like when he's talking to Cassidy for the second time, he's like, well, they don't know where I'm at. And he's like, no, they don't know where you're at, just that you're at a fair. And he's like, what do you mean they know that I'm at a fair? He's like, well, I told him that you were having, not to worry that you were having. Oh yeah, that's okay, that's good. That's a stomach drop moment. Okay, yeah, I like that. Okay, and then with the last one, what I was gonna do, I'll just throw my idea out there. What came to my mind was that when he calls back the third time and Cassidy doesn't answer and Trav does, Trav could literally tell him is like, you ain't gonna believe what I had to put that boy through to get him to tell me where you were. You know, something like that. But I actually like yours more because it pushes Cassidy's innocence so much harder that and it also reinforces the fact that he doesn't see anything wrong with his living situation. It's like, why would it be a bad thing if mom and dad know where you are? You know, so that I like yours better, but yeah, that, yeah. That just reinforces how trash these people are and how innocent Cassidy is in the whole situation. Yes. All right, I think I know what I'm gonna do. She's gonna talk about her folks back home and I'm going to explain the Bruce tattoo on her neck because Shane seems like the type of person that'd be like, so who's Bruce? And then she can give her story naturally. She gonna be like one of these people who sends money home? Yeah, probably, I'm thinking that. I'm thinking she's Honduran, something like that. Like maybe without her, they wouldn't get by making it even more heartbreaking. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. And Bruce could, I was thinking Bruce would be like an ex-boyfriend and make that a sob story, but no, I think Bruce is her kid and her kid's staying with her parents back home until she has enough money to bring him over, that kind of thing. Should we give them a, should we give the tattoo a different name then? Something that's epic for that area? I get what you're saying, maybe. I don't know. Plenty of Hispanic people give their kids white names. So, I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, maybe something else. In fact, we could have Poppy. Or we could make it kind of funny and put some comedy in there and say, the tattoo says Jesus and he says something like, so you're a Christian or whatever. And she's like, this is my kid, Jesus. Yeah, okay, I like that. Okay, let me go back up here and change the first. Let's see here. Be like, my mom was, I don't know, he could say something. I can't picture him saying so, you're a Christian, but something more organic. No, I'll get there naturally and I'll get it. Like, she's probably gonna go something like, oh, this, this is what I live for. It's like, and he could be something like, I've never even been to church and she was like, no, no, no, it's not. It's like, what do you mean? It's like Jesus. Like no, it's Jesus. All right, let's see here. That's a perfect awkward situation for him. Or like, this is my son. Be like, you mean God's son, right? It's like, no. Something like that, yeah. Literally, she could say that's because this is my anchor. Cause it is an anchor. So I didn't even intend for that to be a thing, but it is an anchor with Jesus, or Jesus underneath it. So she could literally be like, this is my anchor. And then anyways, but yeah. And then he could be something like, I don't even go to church. Yeah, we're gonna, we'll use that. I like that a lot. So where, he's still working with Kay first though, right? Yeah. I got that all. Okay. All right, let's see here. Okay, yeah, that's perfect. Picking up down in the dark, picking up right here when someone starts whistling high and loud, I scan the midway looking for the source. I see Kay, he's rushing at me like we're on a football field. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's good. So we don't even have to worry about the fact that they were working on it together at that point in time. That'll just be like, what, the next day or two or something we can do another. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I mean, we might have to add, you know, a paragraph before this, but that's fine. Yeah, okay. We'll find out where we're at after your scene is done. Okay. You might even have to add more after your scene to show. Oh yeah, I'm sure, yeah. We're gonna have to do some kind of time jump just so it doesn't seem hella fucking obvious that we're just building up her character just for her to get snatched. Yeah. So like a time jump of just a couple days, you know, nothing too big. Let's see here. How long these places usually stay around no more than a week, right? Yeah, it's never more than a week. Sometimes it's as little as just a weekend. Like they'll be there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. They'll open at five on Friday, close down whatever time. Then on Saturday, they're open all day long. And then Sunday, they're open until dusk or whatever. Sometimes they do it longer. It depends on if it's like a holiday weekend and people don't have to work on Monday. But Sunday nights are usually really, really slow, especially in the South because people go to church at night. So they go to church twice on Sundays. And then once on Wednesday, it's a whole career. That's how it is over on here too. I mean, not every church, but yeah, Wednesday's on Sundays sometimes. Day service, evening service. Now the whole purpose of that is so that people with jobs or other walks of life or whatever can actually get to those services. There are some people who go to every single service and they ain't even like a deacon or like a pastor. People just go for every single service. When I was younger, we went to every single service and both services on Sunday were the exact same service. He just reused what he was saying that morning to tell the people at night that he expected a different audience. But no, it was just the same people hearing the same words. Hooting and hollering and agreeing and amen and everything, the same exact thing. He's like, we just heard this this morning. Can I go home? I remember my mom having to bribe me with Snickers to get me to go church. The only way I'd go is if she picked me up a candy bar on the way in. My parents made me go on, this is before it was actual Christian. They would, I grew up them making me go to church and it was just a, it was very, lots of old people in there, a buddy of mine used to call it church of the frozen chosen. Because it was the same. Ha ha ha ha. Church of the frozen chosen. Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. I would, I need to run. Well, someone needs to write a book about that or a short story or something. That's a perfect, that is perfect. Sorry to cut you off, but that's fucking perfect. But the, my parents would give me these cards that you put your offering in, you know, like a couple bucks, like a dollar or two dollars and then when the plate would come around. But I would usually do the Sunday school thing while they're in like the, this actual service. And when I was in my, maybe I was like 12 or something and I would, you know, I'd put my stuff in the back, ask it in the, then it started, they don't know that I paid the same amount. Sorry, you were glitching out. The last thing I heard was, and I'd put my, I'm guessing you were saying. Yeah, I would put my envelope with a couple bucks or whatever in there. And then as they got a little bit older, I started thinking, wait a minute, my parents don't even know if I'm actually dropping this money in here. So I started, I started my, the church was humongous so that there were like several hallways and rooms filled with empty rooms. And so I started pocketing the money and then doing, it's skipping Sunday school all together because I would just be like, okay guys, I'm going upstairs to, and then me and this dude would hang out and get into like the janitorial areas. We found this room full of wheelchairs that we'd freaking zoom around the church in these wheelchairs and find all this hidden stuff. And so it was, how was, how was Sunday school? Oh, it was great. We learned about Jesus. I, this ain't really something I'm proud of, but I'm not, I also, I also don't regret it, especially since it came out eventually that our pastor was using the money for like vacations and everything and not redoing anything around the church. But I used to take, especially when I started smoking, I started smoking at 11 years old. So what I would do is I would put my dollar in there and at the same time with my middle finger, I would scoop up, you know, and then put, I would take my cigarette money out of there and then put the dollar in there. But it was always be, I would look for something like a five or 20 or whatever that I could easily, you know, hold like this while I put that in there. And then I would literally open up my Bible and slide it as I was open and I would slide it behind the page that I was supposed to be on and then it would be in my Bible. And then my Bible had a zipper around it. So when we were done, I would just zip up the Bible and walk out. But yeah, yeah, I definitely, but, but, but like I said, I don't really feel bad about it because the pastor wasn't, it was using it for his own, his own stuff also. So it's not like I was, I was ever in, had the inkling to go back and pay it back. But yeah, I would, it finally got to a point and my mom knew something was up because I went from not wanting to go to church at all to being like, hey, can we go to, can we go to two services? Can we go to, can we go to Wednesday night? Until I found out that youth group didn't, they would split off, they would have Wednesday night service and then youth group. And then I found out that in youth group, they don't pass the collection tray around. So I didn't want to go to that anymore. But yeah, I used to, I had a joke for the longest time, funding provided by Fontana Baptist Church. Fontana first Baptist. I'd be smoking and it was like, can I have a cigarette? You're like, yeah, man, I didn't pay for them. Who paid for them? Funding provided by Fontana first Baptist Church. Anyways, I was a fucking asshole. I remember buying cigarettes because I started at 12 and I remember you could buy, and this is an 82, no problem buying cigarettes at 12 from the store. Yeah, when I was 11, that's why I was smoking because they just let us. They didn't even ask like, is it for your parents? Some of them would say something like, how old are you? It's for my dad. And then they just go ahead and do that. So that was like 90. Also, what I smoked were the Harley-Davidson cigarettes and they were only 25 cents, no, sorry, they were 50 cents a pack, but they came with two packs. And they had the sheaths over them, the slip case. And they eventually changed the name from Harley-Davidson to Mavericks. And when they changed it to Mavericks, it went up to 75 cents. That's how old I am. I remember fucking, you know, I could buy two packs of cigarettes for two quarters. But I would just go down to the local gas station and get two packs of cigarettes for 50 cents. And the guy never even looked at, didn't even ask me for anything. Now, if I went somewhere else, like I was at school and I wasn't near to the place because I lived like 10 miles from school. But anyways, if I wasn't in the general vicinity, I would go to other places and only a handful of them. I would say probably maybe two out of 10 stores actually asked me even how old I was. And I've always looked young from my age. Like when I was 30, I looked more like I was 20. But anyways, so I looked like a really little kid back then. And they didn't have any problem even when I tell it's like, yeah, they're from my dad. And also they would look at me and look at this sweet innocent little boy and be like, oh yeah, it's definitely for his dad. But most people just didn't care at all. When I quit, they were like $4 a pack, I think. Did you know that one of the most lucrative black market items in Australia is cigarettes? Because cigarettes in Australia cost $50. And that's USD. That's what the exchange costs. So cigarettes, $50 in Australia. The black market sells them for 25 because they buy, you know, they buy them for like almost $10 a pack here, probably even less because they buy them in bulk. Then they ship it to their homeboys over in Australia and then they make anywhere from $10 to $15 profit on every single pack because, although you got probably about $10 a pack when you calculate how much it costs to ship them. But I found that out a couple days. Yeah, per pack, that's not a carton. That is per pack, $50. And it was a, yeah, it was an Australian talking about it on TikTok. I was like, good God, but they've done that. They added so many taxes to it because they want everybody to quit smoking. But I mean, if people have money, they're going to smoke. It doesn't matter if they're using their light bill money or not, people are going to do it. Dude, you got to go in like 23 minutes and go ahead. Yeah, I'll just go ahead and get started. Okay, so we're going, I got a re-arranged box. Just think of it as a sprint. Yeah, I got you. I'm trying to, I'll just get him over there. I had an idea, I think it was yesterday about Kay. What do you think about if we have a scene? I mean, I know we've touched a little bit on this before. What about if we have a scene where Kay, not only spits a word or two, but you find out that he's just, he's really smart. But there's a reason why he, like, like, This is going to be funny, hang on. There's a reason why he, well, I don't know the reason, but there's a reason why he's not, like, hasn't been talking to anyone. And maybe nobody but Shane, like he's, he doesn't want to get involved in this. He knows if he talks that he's gonna, you know, so he just pretends to be, you know, he just pretends to be mute. Check out, hang on, let me read you something real quick. That's funny, because what I wrote yesterday, give me a second, let me find it, it's way down here. All right, well, this is actually, there's a whole bit here. Kay doesn't, anyways, I'll let you, I'll let you decide what you think of it when you get there, but basically Shane asked Mingo a question, well, not really, he responds to, oh, I'll just go ahead and tell you. I said Mingo tells him that's because Kay don't eat people food, because he's not around for breakfast. And my jaw flop's open, what? I'll let him tell you about that. With that, Mingo turns and walks off, where he's going, I haven't a clue, but he's not headed for his trailer and I don't want to sound noisy. But he doesn't talk, I call after him. Who said Kay don't talk? Mingo hollers over his shoulder. I buzz, I just, does he talk? Mingo responds with nothing but laughter and a wave goodbye. For the umpteenth time, I feel like I'm missing something. So I figure only Mingo knows why he doesn't talk and I was also gonna make the whole he doesn't eat people food thing. I had this idea that he only almost, you know the scene in Lethal Weapon where he's chewing on the dog biscuits and it only happens in that one movie? Well, I'm wondering if Kay has some, and this is one of those things just word vomiting, but I had this thing that he only eats canned dog food because that's all that he ate growing up. And he's kind of acquired a taste for it to the point where he doesn't eat people food anymore. But anyways, that was just something. But I was gonna have it to where, Mingo knows, but Kay doesn't talk to anyone else and I kind of thought that it was more along the lines of because Kay doesn't think everybody is worthy of a response kind of thing. Almost like Hannibal Lecter eats people because they're not as not affluent, but not as well-versed or what not as smart as he is kind of thing. And I was gonna kind of riff off of that. So it's funny that you mentioned that. That's the only reason I bring it up because I had kind of roughly the same idea that he only talks when, not even when it's absolutely necessary, but he only talks when there is something important to him to be said because no one else deserves to hear it kind of thing. I don't know if we wanna play it like that or not, but that's kind of what I was working off in my head. Yeah, yeah, I like that. And the dog food thing is disgusting as is. I don't mind that either. It gives him some more strange, yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, like he doesn't, and maybe he just doesn't like anybody. Yeah, exactly. And maybe we find him reading a lot. Maybe if we start to drop that in. And not even like books that anyone else would read, just like, how can you even read this thing? This looks like the most boring book in the world. It definitely has to have some Thomas Pynchon because those books are, it definitely gotta be something like Philip Roth or Thomas Pynchon or Joseph Heller, something like that, those post-modern authors that really feel like they have no purpose. Their stories have no purpose whatsoever. It's just a bunch of mind-bending themes that you gotta really dig for meaning. Let's see here. Oh, Lord, now I forgot where it was. At least go. Okay, when I think of Kate, I gotta share this with you. You gotta, this is how I, this sums up K and everything perfectly in this Saturday Night Live skit. I'm not gonna, I've time-stamped it so you should be able to just click on it and see just the part that I'm talking about. All right. I'll send it to you on Twitter. This is where Hulk is trying to, he's at Superman's funeral and Hulk is trying to say a few words. All right. This is K. I think I know what you're talking about. That's why I'm always already fucking laughing. I'm sitting through an ad. I can't give. Yeah. Yes, Chris Farley is the, yes. The wait, this is one of my favorite Farley clips because he is just so fucking hot. Like he is sweating out his ass in this. He's just glistening with sweat because the makeups make it, I'm the same way with makeup. He's just pouring fucking sweat. Hulk not good with what I used to quote that all the time. Chris Farley was a hero of mine. Oh, me too. Yeah. So just that transition from being a big dummy to putting big glasses on and then speaking like everybody else. Yeah. That's K. Okay. That's all right. Hulk no good with words. I literally used to say that all the time. Hulk no good with words. Oh, brilliant. And that was around the era of crotch bat, which was, that was the peak, the height of comedy to me. The absolute pinnacle of comedy to me. Crotch bat is just a fake ad for a bat that you hit people in the nuts with. It's amazing. Anyways, yeah, I gotta keep myself busy or it turns out I just vape all the time. So I'm gonna, so I'm always doing something to prevent it. Gonna try to quit for good. Yeah. Good luck with that. I'm not even trying to be rude. I'm just saying good luck because kicking any of that shit. I would much rather try to have to kick heroin again than I ever would have to quit smoking again. Okay, where was I typing? God damn Google Docs. Yeah, I'm with you, Hulk. So I've been cutting my, I've cut my vape use in half, so I'm mindful of how many puffs I do per day and I pace myself so that they, on average, I was at like about 130 a day. And so over the course of the last several months I've been tapering down and now I don't do any more than 65 a day and I will keep tapering that, taking my nicotine down as I go too. Oh, I had no Viking. I had no problem kicking sugar. I had like man flu for like three days. I felt like shit, but kicking sugar didn't, I mean, it also didn't make me feel any better. I did lose gang of weight. I lost almost 60 pounds in like, I would say six months. And the only thing I did was cut out sugar. Do you know that the sugar industry paid off scientists? Like, I think it was 25 years ago to falsify tests so that they would blame cholesterol for, and fat for game weight. Yeah. Rather than sugar. Right. That's crazy, man. Yeah, because sugar is fat free, but it does turn to fat in your body if you don't burn that sugar off. So they, yeah, I remember that story. I learned about that a couple of years ago, but yeah, yeah. I just found out last year because I was doing a bunch of studies on the carnivore diet, the keto diet, and stuff like that. And it was, I read a bunch of articles and I saw some, some cool, TED Talk type things about different diets and I learned about that. And I was like, I mean, it doesn't surprise me. This is why I don't trust anything or anyone. Yeah. It's just like the milk, got milk campaign was literally because farmers had such an, they were, they had so many animals for other things, so many cows that they had so much milk that they had to do something. So they started the got milk campaign to push people to drink milk, you know, have a glass of milk with dinner, that kind of thing. All that, they pushed that, but I mean, it didn't happen before that, back in, I can't remember if it's 40s or 50s, but it was way back in the way back. They, what they did was, is they told people to have a glass of milk with dinner. And so that became like a cultural staple in every household. And that was for the same reason. Most recently, all that stuff with the Popeye's chicken sandwich, how it all sold out and then everybody had their own chicken sandwiches and everybody's going crazy over how great the Popeye's chicken sandwich was. It was all just marketing because- I haven't heard that. It was all just marketing because they had too many fucking chickens and they needed to get rid of the chickens and nobody was buying enough chicken. So they pushed the Popeye's chicken sandwich, which pushed all the other retailers to get their own chicken sandwich, which then solved the over-production of chicken. But yeah, look that one up. The real reason Popeye's chicken sandwich was so popular is because it was marketing so that they could sell more chicken. They didn't want all that food going to waste. And there's a lot of stuff like that. But the got milk one was one of the most, was one of the dirty ones, but that sugar one was really bad. Some independents are catching out of this manipulative way of marketing where now they're doing this, I don't know too much about it, but people are like creating videos where it looks like they're being interviewed and they're not being interviewed. So it makes them look like, it's kind of like dress for the job that you want, not the one you have kind of thing. Making yourself look like a big deal. Yeah, there's TikTok channels that will take a celebrity reacting to something like laughing or whatever and then do edit with their video over here. So it looks like the celeb is reacting to their video and it's not that, hey, how you doing reader? I ain't seen you in a while. Don't type just like, hi, it's Jordan. Christina. Yes. How you doing? I hope you're doing well. I miss you from Twitter. I ain't seen you in a hot minute, but that's my own fault. She's been working hard doing all those covers. I'm pulling out now to, oh, to drive. I'm glad you, I'm glad you specified what you were pulling out of. I hope you're doing well, but yeah, thank you for stopping in. Hello, that's okay then. Yeah, don't chase people off Jordan. What are you doing? Safety birds, yes, definitely. I just had some really cool shit from her. The midnight mass. I don't remember where I put it, but anyways. I believe it was from her. From Christina, some guy I like or something. Yeah, it's, I believe, Christina, are you the one who did the midnight mass, sent me that midnight mass artwork? I hope I'm not, God, this is gonna be so fucking embarrassing if this, if you're pulling out to drive, you don't have to answer, but I'm pretty sure it's the same person. Pretty sure. If it's not, she's still awesome. I'm sure. And I know the NW Reader name. I know that's been in my comments before. Yes, that was her. I thought it was you. I thought, thank you, thank you, because I was about to have a heart attack thinking that I fucked up somebody's, which we'll call it, some that screwed up two different people. Anyways, you gotta go, dude. It is noon. It is 12 o' one. I gotta go. I don't wanna kick you out of here, but I also don't want you to be late to whatever you gotta do. Hi guys, appreciate you hanging out with us. We didn't get shit done today, but that's fine. We are going to be off all next week. Chad, are you gonna be streaming on your channel? Keep, yeah. Well, maybe off, go sub to Chad, but put notifications on for his lives. Hold me accountable via texts. Okay. I'll try to remember. Make sure I'm getting stuff done. Yeah, and I will write sometime this week, I will go and I will write this section I'm working on now. I'm actually gonna highlight it so I can find it easily. All right, I'm gonna highlight it. I will get on this next week and finish up that scene and do the glue. Fun stream guys, I'll tell you, yeah. Like eight more pages. Oh hell yeah, good job, Viking. Eight pages is a lot. Nice. Very good job. So I appreciate you hanging out with us. I hope you guys have a great rest of the day. And if I don't see you guys in the Twitch streams, I hope you have a wonderful week next week. Bye to everyone. Thanks for dropping in, Christina. Appreciate you. But until next time, enjoy your spaghetti dreams.