 All right, yes, and we are back with what in the morning has promised special thanks to Michelle Asheera That was quite informative right there and special thanks to our guest as well Remember we have a question on Facebook and we are asking you to answer the question Because that's the only way we can get to chat interact as we appreciate your views comments and suggestions Head three to our Facebook will be sampling them towards the end but right about now. I have Mrs. Muthoni Moomo who's a serial entrepreneur. She doesn't like to be put in a box She's here to tell us about design about business about social media about a lot of things So get your seatbelts on and let's get ready for the ride You look amazing as well. Thank you very much. I know I asked this off, but how old is your hair? 13 plus years. I don't count Yeah, it's very beautiful. Thank you very much. Your camera is number four. Yeah, you can introduce yourself List all the credentials We might be here till tomorrow Okay, my name is Muthoni Moomo I'm a mother of three and a wife to one. It's important to say that part Yes, yes I'm a lecturer by profession I teach design and I run two businesses green creative company limited and go-gag experiential Yes, all right. These are two different companies or two different Businesses that that do Absolutely different things. Yes, they do. All right Well, there's another part that you haven't told them about but I'm going to End your profile. Yeah. All right. So but let's let's talk about green creatives first. What is what does green creative do? What does it do? Okay, green creative is a branding house that deals with both furniture production and corporate branding So essentially what we do is we create spaces for people Both at home and in their office. So when you look at the office, for example, if a client has say Say an activation say they Let's look at FMCG is like say Omo who wants to do an activation in a mall. All right We come and say Y254. We want We want movie was in across the country. So we are activating something. Yes, we are activating So when we are activating we there is the structure that people come and see probably we've we've come and created your studio Out of out of here to be in a mall say junction mall. So we come and create your studio there I design it and make sure that it's fabricated and created to how it's supposed to look I don't come and do the experiential bit Which is someone else who come in and talk to you with brand ambassador. You know those two pretty girls This is us and all that stuff. I don't do that. But I build I just build and make sure it looks Up to the clients brands. All right, everybody every time a lady tells me a mini phone day I build I look at the nails and I Don't be fooled So let's get to go gaga now. What is what is go gaga about go gaga is now different It's for conferencing and events and it focuses on education and women So education in the fact that we have conferences that we run through the year We have our social media week and we also run our client Conferences that Really are for educating the people Our focus is a lot on social media in those particular conferences And now when it comes to to events we run our own events and clients events And these events are not like your 10,000 people kind of events We look at small niche events We have two of our own one being zuri awards and the other one being Social media week and digital media awards These these are really things that really are varying Interests but really are working towards what we're looking at. All right The goal is the same but these all these things are very I'd like to know zuri awards What kind of people do you awarded zuri awards? Zuri awards is mainly for women who are unsung People who are not known. You know, we came to realize For example, there are so many people who over and over Even if I asked you today Who is a woman who's done spectacular things in Kenya? What would come first in your mind? Just come again a spectacular woman who's done something great in Kenya Which woman do you know? All right every time I'm I'm riding back home I appreciate the trees and the fresher. I always think about one guy But you see the I appreciate her also But there are women who are current who are young who are doing outstanding things and people don't know about the initiative Sometimes just recognizing those women allows them to be able to bloom from where they are So we have women from as young as I think the youngest was 20 years old A girl who she's been through a lot of hardship in her life. And by the time she's gotten there She's already educated 16 girls 16 girls at 20 years old Really educated in what sense? Yes Imagine from six if she's been doing it since she was younger she's been Well, now she's sourcing the fans from her friends well wishers and things like that. So she in her village She's educated these girls How do you get to know about these We're amazing women doing amazing stuff for the community. It's mostly digital Because our capacity is such that we are able to talk through through our digital platforms facebook instagram LinkedIn twitter so we put out call calls for nominations and People come and give in their submissions and these go through a vetting process by a judging panel These judges look at them and see which ones are Have enough weight But trust me even by the time umeka submission Most people have gone further than most people Everyone in the country really so it's not that the ones who are not selected did not like Meet criteria, but it's just that you can only select a few We usually do around we have 15 categories. We usually do around 45 stories Sometimes there's some categories that people don't put in submissions Which is okay, but there are there times that we have all of People talk about women who my humanitarian work that they do so in those 15 categories now We choose three three women who now we we focus on and we take their pictures create stories for them Do videos and these are the sorts of things that are launch pads for them They can go and use them now to say get funding to be able to talk about the work they're doing Go get other words because these are Yes something that packaging because most people are unable to package themselves As a designer so it really comes back to even my my background which is design because all these things Design results all those problems as I was telling you before and all what we do is really Anchored on that creating solutions for these people. You're very passionate about this Your students must love you so much The reason I say your students must love you so much You're you're you're you're a teacher. Yeah impact knowledge. Yeah, and uh, your field is design Tell us a little bit more about this your background how it started your undergrad or maybe even high school because It goes way back. Yeah When I was in standard six, let me start from standard six because that's where I can remember I told my mother that I wanted to be an artist My mother was like, are you sure? Those are not careers. Those are called hobbies. You know just clarification. You know when you're told Get this clear Art is a hobby Careers are medicine Engineering like me skilled in us even in from primary school exactly exactly So you can imagine how disappointed I was until I decided the engineering considering. She's an engineer Let me make mama proud. Yes, and then I decided. Hey, let me go for the hard one. I run not to call engineer It was a new thing like that. It sounds so nice even to my mouth When I was joining campus the only nine the intake was only nine students for aeronautical engineering And they were the most feared in school. I know exactly So I was there. I was just feeling yes, this must be the right career considering It has a nice name and I have to I can deal with aeroplanes and I loved aeroplanes very much So it's either that or I become a pilot and pilot was not part of the deal because you were five children and And The training is quite expensive. It's very expensive So I decided let me at least get close to those aeroplanes by by fixing them And I like working with my hands really since I was little I always used to fix something Even today at a crowd So by the time I got to high school, I I was able to study art Still we still had art. There was a period that there was no art in most in 844 I started art and I finished. I passed very well Then after that Now it came massage pre before university then my parents were like, okay Instead of when I find a course more japa palae, let's see if you can perfect on your science So I moved to do something called international It was it was really a pre university course that enables For better like a better words for me discover yourself Because that's where I discovered myself. There was definitely art there. So I was like, yay And then there were sciences, but what my sciences Tank Yeah Then my mom is just a don't I think she now was like, okay Let's just do this thing that you want to do because I think by that point in time I'd really excelled excelled excelled in art until She also came to realize that that's a passion that I had and definitely I went I went to university of Nairobi and pursued design as an undergraduate course It was good. I passed very well because it's something you love Yeah, it's something I loved first class owners got Um as scholarship for doing my master's went and did my master's there And after that as a good student would do started teaching That's how you give back. Yes, that's how you give back so, uh studying design is it uh It's a more What do you call a more practical? It's a it's a practical based kind of course here. Yes And people underestimate what it means to do design I'm telling you that When we were doing undergraduate for example We used to sleep between four and five hours in a night And when you have those we used to call them pinups the end of year exams You would sleep those four hours in a week So that you can prepare for what you're going to put out there Because it was very very involving and intense and intense. It's not a career for faint hearted people for lack of better words They even in the business for example, I think about people who have gone to agencies to work in agencies The amount of hours you need to work in an agency is It's over the top Because most of them leave work at midnight one o'clock. You have deadlines of clients by mornings 6 a.m. You're ready on that computer um I've even come to realize that many people in agencies are going through even mental health issues because of or because of such very long very strict very Tiring hours went into the corporate world before you decided to teach and and run your own businesses. Yes, I think What's the experience like in the corporate world? First I started from NGO. NGO was good, but it also had so many challenges I managed to visit very much many parts of kenya and Understood so many cultures and people and I was able to do crafts for them But going to the corporate world Before we go to the corporate world Which community in kenya did you see as as some designs that really That you kind of fancy From the furniture to the to their structures to their to their dressing They were so so so different It's so hard to say this is it Because if you go like to trokana you find these people in serious hardship where And they don't even have water then you're asking what do you mean them to water from Uganda will come and sweep These people are way you ask yourself what and this is that the very people who are going to make this basket Beautiful trokana basket. You know the ones that You know and then trying to make that fit into because most of what you used to do was export to fit into the export market Getting that balance After those reeds and then they're going to talk to reeds People with guns and stuff like that. There's so many challenges that they go through But the diversity is beautiful. It is beautiful. You move to the coasts to a place like kiyunga kiyua you you find people They don't even know clothes Honestly, it is now a totally different kind of people They are they are watercams and brings flip flops from Asia where where where Zinakuja Zina Ziba the the the turtle reserve So these people collect those those flip flops and make craft out of them. You see That is so different saving the environment in the process saving the environment and giving themselves some livelihood Yeah, you go to Kisi where people have dug huge queries They are really messing their environment to to have a soap stone because that's really what they know They carve the soap stone you go to Oamunu you go to This Kamba Makueni areas where they are master craftsmen carving You know just it is so different. You can even pinpoint and say this is it Even come to Nairobi Una Katawa to bones. They've gone and collected bones from the the different places where they We change you up a bummer Degree they get the bones. They come boil them. They make beads. They make jewelry, you know, it's just amazing. The diversity is beautiful It's amazing. It's amazing. What a time to be a canyon. Yeah. Yeah, that's experience in the NGO world corporate, let's get to the corporate wall Until running company Corporate world was cutthroat for lack of better words. It was just cutthroat. It was You go there. The competition is very very intense because here you have things called targets It's so that we didn't have them in NGO, but here Everyone is fighting for that kappai Yeah So you're there people are telling you. Oh, no, these are my clients. You cannot touch my clients You have to do this. You have to do that and the competition is stiff There are 10 other branding companies that are also fighting for this one client that you're you're dealing with So cutthroat is is the word for corporate world. It is business now business Business has been up and down for me business started off with friendship That became sour into bad business By the time I was done with the first my first attempt of business It was very very disheartening because I lost friendship. I lost relationships in it Um, I lost because of something called partnership. These are lessons you carry with Yeah, I carried them, but I also gained things. I gained a lot of experience. I was able to I was able to to make decisions for my family, you know things that are I am ripping right now Because I continued in that state. I have not have been where I am today So business was tough Then it was it was starting off after four years of doing something, you know, and you start off from scratch again with nothing So that that was my biggest lesson first off business But you know you live with your mind And your currency is right here in your mind Yeah, that's a If you go into business and you don't understand what you're doing You are unable to replicate it if things went south So with that I was able to replicate what I had been doing So I started off my business of creating furniture for children And also still doing my corporate the corporate thing that I understood from where I was working from the corporate world And since those have grown and while that was happening I went and put myself in another partnership But this partnership was with someone I know the one who Had to beat you You know That one was She's my sister as long as mom is there The same we've been brought up in the same way. We saw it have half the same values. It's easier. I'm told SMEs or businesses owned and run by women in Kenya Are doing better As per a survey that was released on Monday on on women's day and this survey says that This is because they're more customer based women tend to focus more on the customer Do you think the customer is the most important person in the business as we line up to answer to sample some of these things? Yes, the customer is Very important, but not the end The everything you understand because why they are important is their feedback helps you improve on what you're doing Their referral gives you business Satisfying them ensures that you have repeated business from them. So Why I'm also saying they're not everything is because you also have to have your own values Within your organization. So at the same time, you don't go doing bad things because customer may say my Customer customer, but you can only provide what you can and it's also okay to sometimes say no We can't because that's something else that businesses find very hard to do They make a sound No, yeah, and sometimes Businesses fire customers because they are not healthy for your business. That's for example. Yeah, they're toxic Because sometimes you're there with somebody and I could leave after one year Say so you're suffering you're severely suffering and you're bleeding Everywhere and I love that I could leave but I'm not sure you cannot plan You know, it is also important to know when to say no To the customer as much as the customer is important Your values are also very important and your your profit is also very important It's important to survive So I don't know if you ever imagined yourself being a tv presenter, but you're going to help me with my job today And our question is do you think art pays? I know you know, I know, you know, let's see what they had to say as our viewers So Yeah Watching watching from thicker some people never For telling us where you're watching us from Yes, I know a guy when you are an Alicia from yake and art Yes, it it do pay All right It has a business it will absolutely pay But if you just do it for fun, it's not going to pay. Do you concur with uh, El Sino? But you first have to have fun in it. You understand. Yes Perspective I really like So I like that the part for fun. It's important. Okay. One Nancy. I'm going to say good morning. Thank you Kevin Matunga It depends on how you agree, but to me, I think it pays. All right, uh, you think Any answer is correct anybody comes to to the question on our facebook page All right, all the way from the us as you look I'm mostly watching for me Please play for me this song or requests in thursdays and fridays Dominic Nga Nga Well represented as usual Best show Migos rapper and I say my art pays a lot in Kenya. Hashtag white five four Balosi Ken artists and I say my baby. I know this is going to speak to me live art alone. It pays Watching as usual All right, Elisa Steve and I say but from Nyandad we're here Kenyans are not yet to discover its importance I think we'll leave it at that. We don't have so much time. Kenyans are yet to discover its importance. Do you come come with that? Yes, I do because this is our culture and For me, I feel like sometimes artistic in nature. We are very artistic Because one thing that really makes me feel bad is when I I see In a in a in a take a white person to come and appreciate our culture. I love what I eat in Genese You are kitty Oh We have come to the end of this tell them your social media handles as we wrap this up There are many My treehouse Kenya that's on facebook and instagram and I have at go gaga exp on both facebook instagram LinkedIn YouTube all of that. All right. It was really nice to meet you. It was quite an insightful conversation. We appreciate you Thank you very much. All right. We have come to the end of entrepreneurship Tuesday And this time we had a flavor of different things that taste of every flavor from the arts To the design sector and then we had the financial guy right here So you always know it's a beautiful time You always know it's a learning experience on entrepreneurship Tuesday on white in the morning until next time tomorrow We have queens Wednesday. We are celebrating the queens. You don't want to miss it