 Marketing helped you in your other than the confidence part. Has it helped you in your music in any way? Yes, because I'm using my marketing, like what I'm learning, because music is a product. So I'm how to push my product. This is amusing actually my school, my school knowledge, and even you know when I go to Instagram you know a lot of influences of people you know that I actually appreciate a lot. I learn from them and I use the same to push my music. It's very important because what those big companies are doing out there is just marketing. Yes, and you just combine the two and do you need a team to do marketing for you? Honestly, I have, but they are family. All of them are my brothers. We are crazy. We do everything together. If my brother has something, I'm there for him. If I have something, they are there for me. So that's what we do. I think right now I don't need a team. I want to grow bigger. Whether you like it or not, I don't need a team. Despite the fact that you have studied marketing. Because you can't do everything for yourself. You can't be on social media, be on stage, tweet about yourself and you can't do that. It's impossible. And you know most people think that when you are an artist you don't need to go to school or study anything. What do you think about that? It's a big lie. It's a big lie. Please speak to those children out there who are watching right now. It's a big lie. It's a big lie because you need that basic knowledge for you to get there. Because you can have all the money and all the fame, but then you still have to do business with some people. And when you get in some kind of room and people have masters, people have bachelor degrees, people have PhDs. You still have the money, but you don't have the knowledge. Because some people right now, they have the money and they'll be like, Okay, now I think I need to go back to school. Because when you have conscious discussions with some people, they'll be like, I'm so weird. I'm so back there. I have to catch up. I need to upgrade. It's important. It's still important. You need that basic knowledge. So let's get into your music. How did you get into music and why and how has it been for you so far? Actually, okay. It's actually been difficult. It's the music industry. Today some people come to the pub. Some people take a few years to the pub. For me, it's been difficult, but I just embraced the household and embraced the struggle. Because I believe it's kind of preparing me to something greater. And how we started, my sister is a singer as well. She does rumba music. Wow. Rumba music. In Kenya? No, in France. She's in France. So she does rumba music. And when we were little, our parents used to have those big tape radio in their room. Only in their room. So we had tapes, but not the radio. So we had to sneak in and play some songs. Back home, we speak French. And English was like a nonsense to me. But I loved English songs. Like Tony Braxton especially. I loved her so much. We used to listen to our songs and lip-sync. We didn't understand nothing, but we tried. We were just singing along. Yes, we tried. And we started from there. And actually, after that, I was dancing as well. Because I'm a dancer. And I was like, okay, dancing is cool. But the music part, the singing part and the rapping part, it took over. And I had to just do it. So your sister decided to go the rumba way and decided to go the rap way. Why rap specifically? Considering that you love Tony Braxton. That's amazing. Actually, rapping and singing as well. I think I took it from her. But the rapping, I think I took it from my side. My experience on my own. Also, my brothers were like, okay, you are better singer than a rapper. I'm like, bruh, I don't know. I don't know. It's just music because I love music. Because when you tell me music is so broad, I can't just limit myself to one genre. Like hip-hop, rap. You have to be versatile and do a bit of everything. This is just a record label thing. They want you to be there. Put you in a spot and be like, this is where you belong. Yes, don't want that. You were in a group before, right? A group, yeah. I was in a group. I created a group when I was in high school. It was TS Boys. I was in the group. And actually, we did it for the ladies. Oh, wow. Yeah, we did it for the ladies. And yes, we got ladies after that. You did? Yes, yeah, I have to be honest. I have to be honest, we have ladies after that. Michonne achieved. Yes. But then, I think all of them stopped. I'm the only one who's doing it. All of them stopped. So would you be in a group right now? No. Why not? I don't believe in groups. Why? Because my creativity is... It's limited. It's not limited. It's way above some people's creativity. And I can't wake up today and write three songs. I can't wake up tomorrow at 5 or I can't wake up and write zero. So I think groups kind of limit you. You know, whatever you want to do, you have to do it within what you want to do. You have to come together. You have to come together, limit yourself, you can't do anything on your own. You know, I cannot. There are groups and no goals on foot. So in Kenya, which rapper would you like to work with? Papa Jones. Papa Jones. So why Papa Jones? Because he has the vibe and the energy. I saw him perform on stage twice. One was at Memphis, Memphis Club. And the second one was at When International Came. Yeah. Okay. Which other... What about internationally? Which rapper would you like to work with? International. I see J. Cole. I see J. Cole. I see Ken J. Clomart. I see... What's his name? Oh, that's so many. Even the ass of Mub. I check the whole thing in the whole group. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. What about singer? Drink is... He tops the charts. Yeah. Drink is way over there. You can't touch him. What about singers? Which singer would you like to work with? Here in... International. Chris Brown first. Okay. Chris Brown first. I can go with the J's and the Rolo. I can... Even... What do they call it? For ladies... I see the Queen. Queen B. Queen B, Rihanna. But those are big things. And still in the dream. We're working towards that. As we wind up, let's talk about the song that you brought us today. About her. Actually, about her is... is a song that I made. And it basically talks about I'm about to do great things. I'm about to grow big. I'm about to do, you know, go where there's people. You know, many people that I didn't believe in me thought I would talk. Yeah. So about is basically that. Okay. Interesting. I released the latest one called I'm the Joke. I'm the Joke. Okay. Yeah. I'm the Joke. Why? I'm the Joke because I took you from... You said the movie Batman. Yeah. The Joker. Yeah. Whatever he does, it's very serious. Yes. But then he laughs about it. And people will be like, you know, he's a joke because he's serious. Yeah. But then when, you know, when he's performing... People are not taking seriously. People are not taking seriously. Yes, true. So it's basically what I'm doing. Okay. You know, I'm enjoying myself because it's music. You're supposed to enjoy yourself. Yeah. You're joking. Wait and see. Okay. So where can people find your music if they wanted to work with you? Yeah. How can they get to you? Actually, you can go to my Instagram, text me personally. I'll respond like quick. Instagram, hybrid236. You go to YouTube, hybrid236. Facebook, the same thing. Twitter, YB, hybrid. Okay. Yeah. All right. So we're going to be with you more. Yes. Maybe after our collaboration with Papa Jones. Because I told you we're going to be the next big thing in Africa. Yes. We're waiting for that. We're looking forward to that. Thank you. All your dreams, your dreams are valid by the way. I'm waiting for that collaboration with Papa Jones. Yes. We support local talent. Definitely. Yes. And we hope to see you more. Thank you very much. So thank you so much. Thank you. We're about to play a hybrid song. I don't know if it's about her or I'm a joke. We'll surprise you.