 I'm Tony Bruno tonight. I'm here with Scott Carr the Grand Ike soap company tactical soap Scott. How are you doing tonight? I'm doing great Tony. It's great to see you great doing your channel. Awesome. Good. Good. I'm glad you're here The first question I have for you is tell me your origin story How did you come up with a pheromone infused product? Well, it goes back I started the company in 2014, but it goes back well before that In 2008 I Was doing business with a couple of guys and we were we were doing really well and in 2008 hit and things Took a dive Okay, and so when when that 2008 hit not only did it impact my income it impacted my marriage And so I got divorced Okay, and so my partnerships were falling apart my business was falling apart My wife was leading me. It was really Tony. You've been through divorce Yeah, a long time ago. Yeah, it was a long time for me, too But it was a really dark dark time in my life and I didn't know what you know I didn't know what I was gonna do and So The company that I was partnered with ended up being sold And so I didn't really I had money that I had made and I had a little bit of residual income to stay alive But I didn't really have Anything to do And so I was starting to panic. I remember I was driving one day and and my financial advisor was talking to me I'm saying look I need to do this this and this and he said And I was not worried, but he said to me said what are you gonna do for money? And and when he said that it occurred to me that I wasn't worried about it But then I was worried about it And so I'm just like this is terrible But then I put that out of my mind because I'm just like, you know, that's just a question the financial advisor has to ask And so After my divorce I got back into the dating scene and I've been out for many years And so a good buddy of mine was talking about dating and I was telling him that you know I wasn't really enjoying it that much and he asked me if I'd ever tried pheromones And I of course had heard of you know, you hear about that stuff, but I thought he was joking But he wasn't joking and so I said, you know why not and so I saved this because this is the first pheromone product I bought can you see that? Turn up the heat and it was a it was a spray on and I bought it and From that day forward It changed everything for me and so I'm like, it's like this secret. I'm like, this is fantastic You know what I mean? It's like, you know a secret that everybody else doesn't know and so I just use in them and I became interested in them and And one night I was blind by myself in bed. I was watching fight club And you know fight club. Oh god, yeah And so when they're making that soap It's lady soap when they were making that soap. I'm like, that is cool. And I'm like, I want to make some soap And so at that moment I said I'm gonna put the two together And I'm not the first person to ever put the two together, of course, but I said I'm gonna make really great High-end soap and I'm gonna put my formula in there. I'm gonna I'm gonna put a formula in there for me And so while I'd been into pheromones, I was on these these chat rooms and these bulletin board not bulletin boards But the forums that where they talk about this things and and there was a guy on there who was really Really knowledgeable. He was like a professor if you'd get on there and start talking about him and he'd talk about the different the different effects of each term pheromone and each The way they interact with each other and I'm like this guy really noticed And so I told him what I wanted to do was I wanted to create a formula Based on the personality of Tyler Durden You know, oh, yeah, oh, oh, yeah And just the bad boy women love and men respect him. That's what I want And so he came up with a couple of different four. He first of all, I said, I love the idea So I love it. He said let me he said let me think about it. I'm gonna give you a couple of a couple of different iterations and so he gave me a couple of different formulas to try and so it took a while we tried it and I had some guys try it and we finally settled on one and So we made the metal lady who made natural handmade soap And I said this is what I want to do I want to put this in here and she said she said that's a great idea And so she loved it too. So she started making the soap and and basically I got it for me to use Because I didn't really have an outlet to sell it and so I would use it and you know, I buy a batch I would Use it. I'll give my friends some some of the guys that helped me test after them some and one of the guys His wife kept throwing it away She didn't want to do I'm like, dude, this stuff is you can't be throwing away So anyway, but so I don't want to get all well off too far on a tangent But I started making it and then I started I said, I'm gonna try to sell some and So I got a little paper wrapping. I don't know if you've ever seen my old picture of the original paper wrapping I think I have actually and I put it on eBay and I sold it. I sold a couple of bars. I'm like This could be something Mm-hmm. And so I said, okay, I'm gonna put together a website and I started putting together a website And it did okay, you know, you know things take a long time and this was back in 2014 is 2020 so it was a while back and so I Made the website. I Didn't get a whole lot of traction They get a whole lot of traction, but I was selling it was trickling sales were trickling in and I was using it And so it was I was gonna make it anyway. And so I had it for sale and then One day out of the blue this company Called dude, I want that They sent me an email and said, hey, we saw your soap and we would like to carry it on our site And so I said, okay And so I sent him I sent him artwork and the artwork had pheromone misspelled on it That's how that's how rough we were it was pheromone So for the first, you know, a few months we were in the firm owned business Anyway, so we were that raw and so they put it up and and I asked them I said, well, do you take a piece of the action or whatever? They said, no, we just we like to put cool stuff up So they put it up and it and the sales went way up and I'm like, okay, this is great and And so what happened was it was it was trickling a lot. I didn't take a lot of energy and so I I'm going along and I started this other project a technology project where I raised money. I raised money for it And so I felt like I should probably put that on on autopilot and focus on the other business Mm-hmm. And so while I was focusing on the tech business the largest retailer of men's gear Reached out to me and said, hey, we saw this on dude. I want that we'd like to carry your product. Oh, wow. And so I was like, okay, how much do you need? So we need $25,000 worth of product and I'm like I Can't do it. I said I'd love to but I can't do it And they said well, that's retail. I said, it's probably about $8,000 or $10,000 worth of product And so I talked to one of my partner my business partners from before and he said, yeah, let's just do it He said I'll put up the money. I hope to put up the money and so I Made a bunch of soap for them and it was over a ton and it was in my garage And I've got pictures of it stacked up in my garage and I had to I put 2,000 bars and boxes myself on this couch Yeah, and so in like five days they sold a ton of soap That's a lot of soap. Yeah, it was a literally a ton and so That basically launched the business into where They would keep they kept carrying it and they kept you know They kept reordering and they would run these flashouts and they would reorder and so that built my customer base where it became a legitimate, you know a concern and so I Told that he said well, do you have any other than that was just dirt initially It was just during we once said one product and he said do you have any other ones? I said well, I got a couple that I want to do I've got a bottom maverick on the Board but he said look any soap you make will carry it And so they basically funded the production of my my next two Formulas mm-hmm, and so they carry it to this day And so that I guess did I miss anything down this I don't I don't I don't think so But so so you've you've basically grown this business from nothing to a very successful business Of course owned by a man, which I like right and it's four men, which I like So you've grown this business in six years. So really you've got a success story and To me that's something that a lot of men can look look to and look forward to is is coming up with an idea And then following through on it. Yeah, the interesting thing is is I have a couple of mentors one of them was a business partner one of them was a mentor of my business partner and and one of his his He will always fund anything we do like for example he he says but you have to make it work on a small scale He said if it doesn't work, he said I don't do things that don't work He said make it work on a small scale, and I'll help you pour gas on the fire Okay, and so that's always been I think let's make it. Let's see if we can make a thousand dollars Make a thousand dollars. It's just a matter of scale And so that's the way we so it's cut it's he's kind of like like a shark tank guy Right, but he never he never gave money to me on this product This project was funded the whole whole way it would cost about $200 to start this business Okay, and Honestly the I will never I don't want to say never but I will not take investment again because basically I'm a I'm kind of a I'm a solo entrepreneur guy And if you take money from people you basically are working for them There's some things like the project I was working on needed needed to spread the risk And so it was required but still I I prefer and in this day and age the way things work You don't need Anybody but yourself for the company and you don't necessarily need with the internet you don't necessarily need investment Okay, yeah, I'm self-employed. So I totally understand that Yeah Yeah, you being self-employed. It's just some people And it's not a slam. I worked for people for years. It's just I don't like to be told what to do I don't like to be told when to do it. I don't like to be Every time I've ever regret that I have is where I listen to someone else Yeah, I can I can agree with that. Yeah now in the in the six years So you started with dirt in how long did it take for you to do maverick and bond? I think I I'm gonna get the timeline wrong, but I believe after After the they long after I sold that ton of dirt and I Needed he needed another one in the pipeline and so bond was the one I was looking at anyway And so we launched bond and bond was actually more successful and dirt. Oh, wow Yeah, I Don't I don't know why I enjoyed but it's funny. I go through phases like I'll be I'll use bond for a month And I want him to touch the other ones and I'll be like and then I won't touch bond for a month And then I'll be like I'm going through a dirt and phase now and then I've got dirt I've got this you know that little pouch. I sent you. Oh, yeah. Yeah Yeah, I've got on one of my travel one is dirt and my local one is is the the new maverick, too Okay, okay. Have you smelled it? Yeah, it's yeah, it's orange. It's it's an orangey citrus. So Mm-hmm. And so those are the two I'm using right now But I've got the bond to and the maverick in my outdoor shower right now. Oh, yeah I always seem to bounce back to I Believe it's the I I think I'm partial to maverick. I don't know why maybe because it's the ocean breeze sent And I'm right near the ocean right Yeah, I don't know why maybe that maybe that draws me to it But yeah all the sense to me are you know, every single one is just to me It's just such a nice scent I've had so many people say and we'll I'll be specific so many women say wow you smell good You know, I've had that that reaction and I know it's because of what I'm wearing, you know And what I've what I write put on my body now One thing I do want to talk to you about is let's get into a little bit and I know you're not a scientist or a chemist But let's get into a little bit of this Science of pheromones, right and so Every pheromone that we put soak is already on your skin. We already produce them and so I feel like We're replacing what we're washing off Mm-hmm in different levels and so The my formulator He's of the mind and I've gone this way too is to keep it simple And so we've got like three or four different pheromones that you mix together Like like let's talk about Andrew Stenon Andrew Stenon is in every one of our soaps and that's the bad boy alpha Mm-hmm and Andrew Stenon is it can be a standalone you can just put Andrew Stenon on But the challenge with that is is it can be off-putting to males around you because they Want to buck up to you, you know what I mean? Okay, got it And so they're they may not like you and so you don't want to be in a social situation where people are competing with you You want them to be on your team? And so Andrew Stenon Will cut that will help cut that part and so that's what the formulation does Is it it says okay, it takes down that thing a notch and brings up a more likeability and like with With bond we we want, you know James Bond is a hero. So we wanted that trust heroic vibe. So we put in a pheromone That would Up the ant that up. I don't know if you if you ever if you ever have a girl over and you've used bond She will be all over you. I mean she may be anyway, but I'm just saying she'll want to touch you and That's what I found with bond So you have different to leave Yeah, so you have different so all well, we have six we have six soaps right here right now Okay, you can see them right right and so they're all different formulas Well, actually the what it is is we have three formulas. We have the bad boy, which is durden Okay, we have the the heroic Trust in bond And we have the fun loving Has dha dha in it maverick as far as the fun loving happy Funny guy the cocky funny guy Okay, and so and so we didn't change the formulas for the new we just changed the fragrance Because those formulas are tightened dial in Okay, good. Good. Yeah And so you kind of know what your vibe is if you if you want to be the life of party You're gonna want maverick if you want to be the the guy that she's hanging on that's bond If you if you want to just be the alpha where everybody likes you and the ladies like you and the men like you too That's durden Okay, you know, I had no idea until you told me this So now I guess your social setting can basically pick what you're going to use that day Absolutely. Oh wow. Okay It's it's I consider it a quiver. You have a quiver of things that you can use based on what you're after Okay, go over that one more time. So that's how we okay, so we so we got bond if you think of james bond He's heroic whereas Durden is a anti-hero. He's not the guy that everybody Trust, you know, you can't quite trust the guy And maverick is like the guy from top gun Yeah, where they he was he was cocky. He was aggressive But he they he loved to have fun He's like kind of a life of the party where they're singing in the bar and so it takes a that's fun loving but Oh, wow, that's awesome. You know, that's great information. I mean the science of pheromones sound it to me it sounds interesting We're men and Nowadays, why wouldn't you want a nice edge and to me this this gives a man An incredible edge when it comes to meeting a woman whether you're meeting a woman or You're with your wife now or your girlfriend Right. Do you do you believe that you should tell the woman you're wearing it? Well, I don't ever tell them because a lot of times they will not want to be manipulated And so they will go out of their way And it just depends on the girl it just depends on the girl You know, a lot of them are just like, you know, they're like, oh now I get it, you know Because they know because a lot of them find out what I do for a living and they know that I still sell the ceremony So, you know, so Yeah, so I wouldn't if it's your wife. I wouldn't tell her a thing I wouldn't tell her Yeah, you know, and here's here's another thing It's really an amplifier I mean if you're if you're an ugly guy that has no style and has no game at all It's not going to tip the scale. Yeah, it's not going to change the biology of human nature If she's attracted to you a little she'll be attracted to you more. You can speak you know, that's true. You know, that's true Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, you're not going to cover yourself in soap and just go out and meet tons of women No, unless you already did anyway. Yeah, and this is going to add To your game there's going to be that that especially when you get close to a woman I mean to me to me pheromones were always like When you like let's say you You know, you're with your girl and she puts on your t-shirt and wants to wear your shirt Well, your pheromones are on that shirt And there's a reason why she wants to keep that to her or she'll smell it, you know But those are natural pheromones. So this is basically a rose and why not have the boost? Why not have an edge? No, yeah Yeah, I mean, I you know and I know that once you've experienced it You can't live without it Right. I I it's been over two years and I have never used another soap And I mean I shave with it. I shave my face. I shave Mm-hmm Take my head with it. It it lathers beautifully Um, I I'm going to tell you the story and I know I told but I'm going to share this with everybody else My brother had sent me your soap and this was about two and a half years ago and I know you know this story Well, I had dinner and I was up. I was out of town on work And I have a construction business and after dinner I went to a small bar and had had a cocktail And I was leaving so I just got my folder with the check in it. I had one drink and as I'm sitting there Two girls sat next to me on the corner of the bar and the one girl said to me Are you going to leave? Are you not going to have a drink with me? And of course I did say something kind of funny and spicy to her and within within minutes Within minutes and I've sent you pictures a beautiful blonde. Oh, yeah I've got pictures of her kissing me. I've got pictures of her Just close to me And I had a I had a great evening with her And now I reported back to my brother with that And I believe he posted it on twitter like this is what pheromone soap will do for you I think I even I sent you the pictures and I even might have sent you some video So I was I told me about it. Yeah Yeah, I was sold at that point Not that I didn't have some game in me. Sure. Yeah, but I I noticed there was a there was a Almost like a an attraction to come closer to me That's that's that's a difference that I noticed Yeah, I'm interested in you probably were using dirton. Do you remember? I mean, I can't actually actually I was Yeah, yeah, that's why she felt aggressive Yeah Yeah, wow, it's it interesting. Yeah, it'd be interesting to know that, you know, I haven't done that research with with myself and and and People like you, you know, I haven't said, well, what were you using? Because it'll all it'll all work Okay, wow, but that's that's some great info because to be honest, that's something I didn't know I didn't understand the the actual Formulas and what the difference I knew the fragrance was different But the actual pheromones in the in the both of the bonds both of the dirtings and both of The mavericks are the same pheromones. Yes, but you're getting a different reaction You're expecting a different reaction or let's say you're creating a different reaction from the opposite sex So right what about a woman that uses that soap? The reason I asked you that because Yeah, I've had Or we'll say women at my house Use that soap and say they absolutely love it Not telling you what it is Right, I think maybe um I mean, it's like oxytocin. You know what oxytocin is The oxytocin is the pheromone that women have when they Orgasm and it makes them feel connected if they had that on them, they would still have that feeling So that so the pheromone their body can't help but react to it whether it's on themselves or on you probably It's an interesting thing, but yeah, but yeah, so you already have those pheromones What we're doing is we're boosting them and as we get as we get older they diminish Okay, yeah, it's like a whole now the one thing you said earlier Okay, I didn't know that like when you like so when you take a shower when I take a shower after work Those pheromones that I've now sweated out and everything so when you take a shower You're actually washing those off. That's why that's why bathing is kind of a It's kind of a new thing. You know what I mean? And we used to just smell. We used to just smell. Yeah Yeah, wow, this is interesting. Geez I I this I mean my mind is kind of blown right now because I've been using this for Well, probably two and a half years now and I had no idea that there was that much science In this yeah, that's why I had to get the guy, you know, I mean I have learned I know I can formulate now if I wanted to But that guy That guy was I mean, he just yeah, anyway, he knew what he was doing He really knew what he was doing it and Yeah, so that's why we don't change them. They're dialed in I mean, we will eventually get to a to a place where we start making experimental bars where we say, okay We're gonna make this this series and it's got some experimental pheromones. It's got some Some different different things in it that aren't in any of these And just kind of get feedback and so it'll be a different line Now we gotta go ahead when when I first tried it I'm probably like a lot of men. You're gonna be a little skeptical Now I was skeptical and I and I am being 100 honest That was the first night I have ever used it The first night I have ever used it and again I was When that evening was it was a great evening, but but I was just really surprised on You know, it's it's almost psychological too. Maybe you know what it means because you do have this on and Are you expecting something? Probably not but when you do have a reaction You're like wow Maybe it was the soap that that brought her in brought her in close to me And she wanted to stay close to me to me that I mean that's that's to me That's I think that's pretty important and again within like moments of meeting somebody within within within I'm gonna say within 120 seconds two minutes maybe You know, so that's that's that's where I like I'm like I love this stuff and I never I never go anywhere without it Same here at one time. You know, I've gone on trips a couple times. I've left it and it's just ruined the trip Mm-hmm. It's ruined the trip But um, I think I believe this is true I believe that if you are a young Vibrant strong man and you have a lot of pheromones. You're putting out a lot of understain on and stuff that that's a feedback loop to you Mm-hmm. Do you know what I mean? So yeah, so when you when you like for example, if you're jacked You look in the mirror the feedback loop Okay, if you look in the mirror and you're not jacked it's a feedback loop So it builds on itself if you've got the pheromones of a young man Then you feel strong and young that's that's and so I think it adjusts your attitude. This is also an attractant Yeah, now that makes a lot of sense now. I've got right here. I've got I've got most of your products lined up right here now We've got dirt in maverick and bond But recently you just came out with another series. It's called a sequel It's the sequel. So we've got maverick to dirt into and bond to So And the difference between all those is the it's the fragrance. Correct the fragrance Okay, maverick maverick formula is going to be maverick formula if it's got maverick on it It's that same formula. So you know what to expect. Okay, so when you know, you know, you know what you're going into You know what to use and and you know, I've got the god of war beard oil Okay. Yep. Yeah, and so I got to send you some beard oil. I I didn't realize you didn't know but um, yeah, I um But yeah, the beard oil is um, it pairs best with with bond and and dirt in But it can you know, I tell people to experiment just you know, try it with the other one see what happens Okay, now this is kind of like a premiere tonight. So We're gonna premiere your new product. It's not available yet And I believe you told me it should be available soon But I'm gonna go ahead and bring this up to the camera And I don't know if everybody can see that really well But this is maverick and it's solid. Yeah, there's bond. Yeah, there's bond. I've got actually I got I got all of them right here um Here they are all right here Everybody can see those Now what these are? Oh, you there's I lost you That's all right. Yeah Okay, there you go. Okay Okay, you're good. Um, so what this is. Okay, we've got we've got uh, this is dirt in right here This right here is bond And this is maverick. Now what this is? Is a solid cologne pheromone booster It's basically like a little I'll pop one open here for you, but it's like a little a little it's like a little mini deodorant stick Yeah, okay So as I screw that up and screw it down so So on the title it says a solid cologne pheromone booster So go ahead and tell us really. Yeah, let me tell what it is Yeah, I um, I always like to create products that I need and I want That's the whole genesis of this company is because I wanted it Um, and so one of the things is is let's say you're you know, you're you take your shower you go out You're in a sweaty club You know five six hours goes by You probably you may have sweated off everything that you put on for the shower and so I mean I believe six hours is the window. That's what I do mentally But but I've had results after that and so I would keep this, you know, it's slim so you can keep it in your back pocket Yeah, I like having this Yeah, let's see. I kind of I'll kind of give you an idea of how small it is. I mean, here's my hand right there So that gives you an idea of how small it is so you and it's very it's very slim So it fits in your pocket without being bulky Yeah, and so what what you do is you're out you go to the bathroom you put some on your shirt You like to put it on your beard You like to put it on your beard. Yeah, I like to put it on my neck. I put it on my arms Okay, since you sent this to me Yeah, it's We talked earlier But what I did what I did since you've sent it to me when I leave the house in the morning I just put a rub a little here and then actually just kind of Kind of shape my beard with it real quick. Yeah And one thing I noticed is it just it's a not only that it's a nice scent for me to smell Right. I've used it. I've used it like I put it on my temples a little Because I always think that and that's your hot spots. So right You know, I know on the on the on the um, I don't want to call them the directions But it says apply to your forearms and neck when you need I like what you say here when you need that alpha boost Yeah And so yeah, I always wanted to have Have it with me just in case, you know, just in case it gets late in the night and it's been eight hours since I've taken a shower And yeah, so I've got that boost and and I think it's going to be a very very good product to go hand in with the soap Oh, I agree. I agree. It smells it smells good I mean, I I'm the kind of guy too where I don't use a lot of cologne Right. I like this that this is a type of cologne to where when when a woman gets close to you Then they can smell it on you, right? I mean nobody nobody wants to smell the cologne before somebody walks five feet away from you Yeah, it's it's understated. But but it's there. Yeah, it's understated. But there Yeah, I'm because I'm a I'm a big guy for what like if I do put a little cologne on I'll easily put it on my neck. I might throw it on my wrist or on my forearm But I'm a real big fan of putting it on your temples And the reason you put it on your temples you could be in a club or in a bar It can be loud or noisy and when you lean up to a woman and talk to her, right? That's right where she is That's right where she is and it gives off a scent now no longer. Will I be using regular cologne? Of course I'll be using Yeah, I'll be using this But you can use both a lot of people ask me they say if I use regular cologne with offset The pheromones and it won't pheromones or you don't there's no fragrance to pheromone Okay, okay, and so it's it's It's not the smell that's doing it. It's the molecules Okay, good good now Yeah This science to me the science of pheromones is amazing I mean I've learned I've learned so much and I thought I knew a little bit about it But the way you described it and the actual the different types of pheromones So you can actually pick again you can pick Which one you want for your social situation, correct? Right, and I try to make it simple if you think about those characters You think who who am I tonight am I tyler durden? Yeah, or am I james bond? Yeah, but um Yeah, one of the things that that really I I was already a hundred percent sold on pheromones when I discovered this But I don't know if you've seen it if you search pheromone twin test On youtube But we will yeah search pheromone twin test and 2020 This story about the pheromone colognes when they started coming out And they tested it did two blind tests on the females and males Two identical sets of twins and it's pretty amazing if you and what was that again for everybody? What was that the the pheromone? It's called pheromone. It's pheromone twin test and they used to double one Where the twin didn't know who had it on and they went on a speed dating a speed dating event And then then they got their numbers back Oh, like how many people wanted to meet this one and how and they were identical twins And so it's pretty it's pretty impressive And so I was already I already knew long before I saw that but it's really illustrates The the subtle effect because a lot of people are like, hey, I mean not a lot of people But I had people say look I was in a bar and I sat next to these girls and they didn't say a word to me Well, you they actually said something to but I'm like, they're not going to change pretty much their whole Pick up in nature based on pheromones, you know, they're going to still be women and they're still going to want to be the The approach rather than do the approaching. I'm going to plug this in real quick. Hang on. There we go. Okay But um, let's see. Okay. Yeah. And so It's really subtle like those twins in that test neither one of them knew That they had a better result than the other one You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't obvious to them I'm sure everybody who's watching this right now is going to be googling that as quickly as possible Yeah, because I know that's what I'm gonna do Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing. I mean they had one there was one where the Well, I'll just let you watch it. Yeah, it's best if you just google pheromone twin test and it's 2020 you remember 2020 Oh, yeah, yeah, they were a yeah, they were and so they were I believe they're always trying to debunk Bull crap, you know So they went in thinking they were going to debunk it But it didn't work. So oh Yeah, you just wait. Yeah, it's impressive. Yeah, that's good. That's really cool. I think that's I think that's awesome I can't I can't wait to watch that right now myself. You know, I've had yeah I've had I've had so much experience in my life with with women and things like that So to me again pheromones are To a guy that you know, maybe is is starting out to meet women and stuff like that I think this is a great edge to have You know, if you're gonna change her change her attitude and you know, even if it changes her attraction And I guess is the word attraction. Is that the right word? I think it amps up the attraction That's that's the way I've experienced it. That's the way You know in the in the speed dating They're If they say no, then they're not attracted if they say yes, they're attracted And so yeah, it amps up attraction. It just it's a force multiplier It's like, you know, you're wrestling But but if you were wrestling and you had a combat knife, it's a little bit of a different game. Yeah, gotcha. Yeah Boy, I like that comparison. Yeah Wrestling or wrestling with a combat knife. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, there's two two major different outcomes right there Right. Yeah. Yeah, it certainly does amplify the force Oh, wow so so pheromones in the Animal world is a natural thing. It's a biological thing that all animals Whether it be insects and animals all give off pheromones to attract their mate, correct? Right Okay, yeah, they do and even and pigs even have their own they even have their own um an organ That accepts accepts them Mm-hmm. They have an organ that that pulls out the pheromones. Yeah, and and they use an insect world, but um there have been some studies about how How women that are ovulating Or if you bring in They react pheromones differently Like if you have if you have a I can't remember. I'm I'm completely butchering this But if you they they did a test where they use the t-shirts Of really masculine men and t-shirts of not so masculine men and let the women just smell shirts And if they were ovulating They wanted the masculine male Oh, wow, it's just yeah, I'm butchering it and you can google that that um that to pheromone and ovulation and and t-shirt test But but yeah, that's a study they did and that showed that women Put based on smell too. Okay, so they're looking to breed basically right? I mean that's that's that's what and that's what the natural world is about You know pheromones are to attract a partner pheromones in the insect world and the animal world I mean we're we are really basically animals. We're we're we are upright apes is what we are Yeah, so it doesn't you know, so this makes a whole lot of sense um Another question. What is the future of grand dike soap company and tactical soap? What what do you have in the pipe? Besides the new cologne stick. Yeah, we've got the new cologne sticks I'm gonna I'm gonna release these three cologne sticks and then I'm gonna release three more with the new fragrances Just so we have a match for all each bar just so you know, if you love maverick, too You're gonna want a maverick to fragrance Cologne stick and so we're gonna do that and then we've got a a beard wash and a beard beard balm coming Oh, nice. So we're gonna have I'm gonna have three beard products And then we're working on a deodorant Okay, and we're working on a shampoo bar Which you know, yeah the shampoo bar. I mean I use sometimes I'll just And it'll lather right up and it'll work as shampoo now, but but there's some things he's gonna do My soap formulator is gonna gonna put some things in that makes it lather even better Okay, so it's not gonna be liquid. It's gonna be a bar form of it's gonna be bar. Yeah, okay And why why is that? What's the difference? I mean to me? I'm a bar soap guy always have been Liquid soaps are kind of girly. That's just my opinion. Right. I think liquid soaps are girly never used them Never want to use them right and liquid soap is um This feels like it it doesn't last as long And and I don't know there's just something manly about having that bar Yeah, there is there is yeah, there is and I know from from a lot of experience with this soap That when you purchase these bars, they're fat They're big size bars and they last a long time If you were to use let's say a bar of like dub or something like that that thing just disappears These last these last a while Yeah, as long as you keep them keep them dry keep them out of the range of the water You don't keep in a bowl of water or they'll Yeah, but they um, but also one of the big important Differentiations of this and like you said dove is that if you read the ingredients of those things There's things you can't pronounce and those things reduce actually reduce testosterone And so you're getting all these all these what I call poisons. They're just basically to preserve the soap Mm-hmm. And so ours goes from you know, as soon as it cures it's being used So it's it's all natural is what you're saying. It's an all right. It's all naturally The only thing that isn't natural is the bio. They're the um pheromones are bio identical So it's just it's but the fragrance But for bond and for maverick Are created Okay, but they don't reduce the testosterone, you know, they're not you know It's not some kind of weird chemical that is going to cause you any trouble. We make sure of that Now let's say a guy has a skin issue or Now i'm not sure where I heard this but am I correct in this that it doesn't A lot of these soaps have they have an issue and they affect your endocrine system If people don't know your endocrine system is your thyroid So a natural soap won't affect your endocrine system. Is that right? Right the the things that they're they're putting in there are Are not to help your skin to help the bar last longer so they excel it Okay, and so when you have an all natural Handmade soap It's going to be much easier on your skin. You're not gonna get a bunch of poisons. I mean you've looked at the ingredients It's just oh, yeah, it's oils and and like the these things are oils that um, like Yeah, you've seen it. It's it's really good stuff. If it's not something it's something that you find in nature Yeah, and the three new fragrances Are 100 natural fragrances from essential oil or or yeah essential oil essential oils like This is my favorite. It's like opening orange. Ah, but anyway, yeah, those are 100 natural fragrances Yeah, I've um I have this one right now my outdoor shower. I have it in the little it's like the little soap sack that you sent me Yeah, you know Which I I actually yeah, I I this one right now I mean what I like I have an outdoor shower But when I walk in there, even though it's roofed in it's open air I can smell this when I walk in I mean I can smell the fragrance always. Yeah, so this is This is kind of my new favorite right here. Is it fresh timber? I think it's fresh timber. Is that right? Yeah Is the fragrance on the front of the fresh timber? Yeah, that's just natural woods. Yeah Yeah, it's a it's a great smell Maybe because I'm a carpenter. Maybe that's why I maybe so maybe yeah Dyrton's Dyrton is sandalwood and bourbon. I believe is it right sandalwood and bourbon? Yeah And so Dyrton and then citrus citrus and hops Which is kind of cool. Yeah, it is I mean hops if anybody doesn't know when you drink your beer the hops are what Everybody knows like IPAs and and all the craft beers, but that's hops So hops actually has different fragrances So that's kind of cool that you have it in there and I believe hops is even part of the I think it's part of the cannabis family or or Hemp family if I'm not correct perhaps I mean, yeah, I mean that's where the old saying came is have you ever heard the old saying he's all hopped up Yeah, the guys in the hop field used to pick the hops and put them in their pillow And that would help them go to sleep. Wow. Yeah, so that's where that that's where that saying came from You're all hot. He's all hopped up the guys that used to pick the hops Put them in their pillow and it helped them calm down and sleep So, yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. So um Now i'm going to ask you one more question How let's how do I how can I say this? Um Besides what you have on in the future Do you do you ever plan on going mainstream with this? Do you know what I mean? Like full on mainstream Well, possibly. Yeah, we have um We have some things in the works that could get us into brick and mortar But I've avoided I've avoided that just because it's a it's a different animal than The online business and that in that brick and mortar if let's say they order, you know You know 10 000 pounds of soap they get it. They don't promote it, right? It doesn't sell I got to take it back. So that's a whole new infrastructure. That's a whole new infrastructure Okay, and so doing it this way allows me to manage the growth and not get overwhelmed and Launch products in the pipeline in a strategic way where I can say, okay Let me send it out. Do they have any challenges with it? No, it's perfect. Okay, then we roll it out bigger And so it allows me to step through it and it's it's just a different game that I myself Haven't been in a big hurry to get into because I I consider There's a great book called a company one It's talking about how how a lot of the big big multi-million dollar companies are one guy And he just any outsources the the things that Need to be done rather than having an employees and making sure they're here and just that and so That's the way I want to model This company where it's me and and I don't have anyone working for me directly ever Well, this is a this is a great success story And I think what this will do is help men to say, okay I came up with an idea. I'm gonna follow through but you also did the research Put the time in things don't happen overnight a lot of people think success is like that It's like hitting the lotto, but it's not it takes some time to develop what you did So I think a lot of younger men, especially or anybody really can say You know what I'm gonna go ahead and try something different Right the mentor I mentioned earlier. He says it's it's like a garden You know, it's not some you don't plant it's in you there's harvest the next day It's like a garden. You have to grow it And that's it Yeah, I mean there's ways people can make quick money on the internet and all that but but if you want to grow a brand I think it's like a garden. You just have to you have to feel your way through it and eventually You know the principles of business always work You know, what's one of my favorite things is I do all my customer service And the guy will email me and he said hey, I didn't get my package And I'll email back and I'll say look if you don't get it, you know, we're not just gonna leave you hanging And they don't worry and they're like, oh my god, you know, they're shocked They're shocked that I say it to them Because I guess they're so used to people not caring, but I consider I My philosophy about my customers is I consider them my brothers You know, how would I treat my brother when I tell my brother? Oh, you didn't get it screw you No, they're my brothers and so I treat them like they're my brother Yeah, that's that's a good philosophy. I know when I get my packages from you it says brother tony Yeah, you're brother tony. Yeah, always Yeah, and so one of the one of my favorite things about this company is Is pheromones helped me through a really tough time and turned it completely around And so if a guy's going through a divorce or whatever he wants to get back in the game I mean if you don't use my pheromones use somebody's But get in that game because it can change everything overnight that can happen overnight Well, I'm going to say don't use somebody's use yours That's what I'm going to say So anybody out there go ahead and use scott's pheromone infused soap the beard oil and coming soon is the again, we've got the we've got the cologne It's the solid cologne pheromone booster. Yeah, so what a great idea I'm glad you told me that too about about why it's in packaging It is because I didn't even think about like bringing this with me So now it's going to be in my pocket right in my truck all the time. Why not? You know and it's black It's the cases are black because if it were indirect sunlight if it were clear that can reduce the Um effectiveness of the pheromones. So there's science in everything here Yeah, say say like even like you're you're coming home from work and you want to stop in the grocery store Just put a little on. Yeah, put a little on change your social dynamic immediately awesome Yeah, I'm I'm excited about the new products and I'm excited about your your success I think this is a again. This is a success story Which I think is important for for men Especially especially a man that's like going through a breakup like you said or is having an issue You know you you took you took that issue and you turned it into something that I think is successful and purposeful And also you're helping men, which to me is a real important thing in my life We all want to you're giving back is what you're doing Yeah, it's yeah It's symbiotic. I mean just it just if you can turn our business into into something that Helps other people and they like it and It's just different than just something that you do to get through the day and just to make pay check And so I I feel really fortunate. I really appreciate all the support that you and your brother have given me I mean, oh, yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. I really appreciate it. Oh, yeah Oh, not a problem at all not a problem at all. I am going to For everybody that's watching this I'm going to leave links down below and I have a coupon code Which is king now if you use that coupon code You're going to get a nice little discount on your order and my suggestion to everybody is to Don't buy one bar or two bars buy that. I believe it's a six pack Get the beard oil get the whole get the whole package Um and coming up soon, you can get the cologne stick But but get a package of it you get a better discount when you buy When you buy it and again, I have a coupon code. I'm going to leave a description I'm going to leave a link down in the description for tactical soap So use my coupon code, which is king and you get a nice little juicy discount on top of The already deal that scott's going to give you so and one of the one of the things is is too is It you can buy one bar And and you may have a may have a reaction, but sometimes you don't get a social situation through one bar And so I like for people to at least buy two I can do at least by two, but you know a lot a lot of the people buy one and then they reorder I mean it's it's The one of the great things is the number of people that reorder I mean if they reorder that means they had a good experience. Yeah And I'm glad I'm really glad that you you explained to me the difference in Basically the personalities of the soap Right, you know, I mean you have personalities on the soap and now we know those personalities kind of relate to what pheromones and basically the the um, I'm not sure the word but but what you're getting when you use that So what you're what you're trying to amplify And so I'm glad that I'm glad that it's interesting that you didn't know that but I don't really promote it that much because What's great is you don't have to know that And you still have a great time That's awesome, man What about the beer? What about the beard oil? Is that a different formula? The beard the beard oil is um Has the same formula as dirton. So it matches with dirton But it also matches with bond because bond has those same two two pheromones and the two that just has a third one And so it can if you're if you wash in bond and you use the beard oil It won't interfere or change anything Okay, well, that's awesome. That's good to know. Wow. Yeah, so We've got a lot of information here and again everybody go ahead and get some soap man. I mean, let's do it why You need your were men we need every edge we can get and this is a great edge And I think it's the way you described everything. I don't think anybody could describe it better So you're getting and you're supporting you're supporting a man or this way a man And his business and that to me is very important also so scott I really do appreciate you coming on and explaining your products explaining about pheromones So, well, it's been very much. Yeah, I hope to see you soon, my brother. Yeah, it's great to see you tonight I hope to see you soon That sounds good. Thank you very much and I'll talk to you soon for sure. I appreciate your time Of course. Thank you. Have a great night. You too. Thanks