 I'm gonna bring it to the table, Boss Talk. Who your girlfriend fave, Boss Talk. We gonna do it how you want it, Boss Talk. Yeah, everybody on it, Boss Talk. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Yeah, nothing, my dad will walk on. Hey man, man, hey man, it's going down. You know, we having a great time. You know, hey man, we've had the most extraordinary people to come through here. Yeah, sir. But hey, we got one that's been here before. I mean, she's helped my brand. We met in, you know, in another life. Helped our brand. Yeah, yeah, in another lifetime. You hear me? Another lifetime, it was a before lifetime, and it is our brand, baby. Hey, you know what I'm saying, ring? Oh, okay, you know what I'm talking about. Check it, man, hey man. Tyler Michelle is in the building. What's going on? Hey, it's good, it's good. Hey, man. So happy to hear y'all. Say, hey man, we just appreciate you for coming through Blessing the Platform. Being that we have a history, it was only right that we bring you on. Oh yeah, most definitely. Cause when the brand was doing the unique hustle thing, you know what I'm saying? You was here for us. How many years ago was that? That was in 2016. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'll be on it. Time's up. I was wondering too, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was in 2016, 2016, 2017, but most, 2016. It was definitely 16. Yeah, yeah, and that's dope, man. And you been singing a long time. A long time. We just appreciate you for, you know, always tapping in and checking on us, even if it was about the music or if it was just about us pushing forward. And that's, that's dope. Like I never picked up the phone and felt like I couldn't call you or text you and you would respond. You're a dope person. I watched you when you was out of the country. I seen you when you was doing it. Hey man, thank you for serving and supporting our country. Thank you for your support. Man, you doing your thing, even on that aspect. You know, for you to go out and, you know, put your life on the line and check out things for us, you know, she's a, what are you in? Just tell us a little bit about yourself. All right, I am in the Army National Guard. I have been since I was 17. Wow. How many years? I've been singing for before then. So what, we had 10 plus. 10 plus, that's dope. 10 plus years. You gonna retire that day? At this point, if music can kind of come in between, you know, I'll do that, but if not, then yeah. Man, I'm so proud of it. Kind of playing A, playing B kind of thing. Got to stay afloat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, how did you end up getting in the Army? Well, we'll go to music first. What, you said you did that earlier, right? What did you want to be when you were a kid? Cause did you always want to be in the Army? Did you always want to sing when you were a young child? I don't think I had time to think about it. I didn't have time. Like I just kind of grew up. We traveled a lot, we moved a lot. Were your parents in the military too? Mm-mm, no. So why did you travel and move a lot? So initially, I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana. Okay. We moved down here in 2001. My mom and her five kids. Wow, your mom got five? I'm the last to five. I was about to say I was a university. Baby girl. I'm the baby. Brothers and sisters? Yes, two brothers, two sisters, and it's me. Okay, so as a child, so how old were you when you moved down here? I was about eight. Eight, so at eight years old, you didn't have, you say you didn't have any goals. This is what I wanted to do. We moved down here to Texas. You know, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on at this point. You know, immediately my mom got us into church. So that's where I realized I could sing. Okay. I didn't know it first. I didn't until I got down here and I was like, okay. And same thing with, what's her name? Cheek. Cheek, Andy. Yeah, it's the same thing. You mimic kind of like people around you. So initially I didn't know I could sing until I was like, oh, she can do that. I could do that too. Okay. And people are telling you that you had a good voice. Yep. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You had any solos in church? Yeah, I did. I was in the soprano section, so the highest one. Wow. So you can really go up there. And I noticed that my voice was above everybody else's. Like I could hear that it made the sound complete. So it's, he showed me very quickly. Were you able to do the riffs back in church? Yes. So you weren't able to do the riffs? Yeah, it didn't take me too long. It just kind of came natural. Okay, okay, okay. I can't wait to hear you. I'm already ready. Yeah, well, you know. So when you first got in the church, you was singing and everything sounded good and family was looking at you and they was proud of you, nervous? Oh, absolutely. I bet. Absolutely. But you have to get past that nervousness, right? Oh yeah. And that took a while. That takes a while. That takes a while. In church, you let God use you. You know what I'm saying? You'll still be nervous, but eventually you'll eventually get there. So when your mom and dad heard you sing for the first time, what did they say? My mom actually just reminded me of this. Maybe a week or two ago, I was in church and it was a play. And I had to, I think I was married or something. I had to baby. What was the song? I really don't remember. But anyway, so I'm going down the aisle and I'm singing and that was her first time really hearing me sing. And she was like, that's my baby? What? Wow. She was shocked. So you didn't even sing around the house or nothing? You know, me and my sisters will be a little girl group, CLC, you know, kind of thing, but mama probably not paying attention. There's five of us. Wow. She had to work. Speaking to mama, she called me right now. You had dad there too? No, not my dad. He's still in New Orleans. My whole family is still out there. But you have a relationship with him? Oh, yeah. How was it growing up in a dysfunctional home with one parent? It wasn't too bad. Watching how mama was. She was more than enough? More than enough. She was literally both parents in one. I could say that. She held it down. Even if we had times where we was low, it wouldn't feel like it because she would make enough. Because you always hear the saying that a woman can't be a father to a child, whether it be a girl child or a boy child. A woman can only be a mother, because there's certain things that a father will teach a child that a mother wouldn't be able to, you know? And not even always just verbally, it's just by walking. They look and see that's how a man is supposed to treat a woman. That is how a man's a woman. As a female, girl, older, that's the type of man I need to find. You know what I mean? I think my mama probably replaced that with the Lord. It's a different type of love. I didn't find that in men, or she didn't show me that. She didn't show, you need this type of love, or for this person to treat you right. All you need is him, and he gon' guide you where he's supposed to go. He gon' bring the right person to you and all of that, so. I guess you heard that. She talking about God in here. And you know what I mean? I love God, so this is about to be interesting. I mean, the fact that faith has brought her thus far. You know what I'm talking about. Faith, hope and love. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And then she said that her mother had a different type of love. It was almost as if she was just getting close to the fact that it was a Godly unconditional love. You see what I'm saying? That's the kind of Godly love. That's how it's different. She said, I didn't see it expressed as affiliate love, but in agape love. Which affiliate love is like a brother and cousin and sister. No, she said this was something on another level. Mama had an unconditional agape love for Tyona Michelle. Well, all her kids. Hey, it's going down, man. That's what I'm talking about, man. And that's why she's saying from her heart, cause she know God. And y'all better get a clue, because if you don't have God, you as lost as hell. I'm gon' be real with you. If I did not know God and not have a real relationship with him, I would feel empty in spots. And every time I felt empty, God would fill that spot up. I'm not playing. Exactly. And they say, you preaching. Man, you better learn about God could plan. Every time you say, I'm preaching, you really saying, I don't talk about God much. I'm checking out. At the end of the day, I don't really, when you express God to me, you sound like you're preaching. No, this is life. Yeah. This is life. It is. So if you don't have it, what you expressed to me was that that's what held you and brought you through. Oh yeah. And you know that's what brought you through. And when she say something that was so dope, she said, when we didn't have much, mama made it work. See, that's what God would do. He'd take a, and that's what creative black folks do too. We take a little bit and we spin it into enough. Man, this is dope, right? You're like, this dude is made for this. Oh yeah. No, we're having a good time on Boss Talk 101, y'all. Hey, man, it's going down, man. Make sure you guys like and subscribe to our channel. Make sure you check us out, man, on Spotify, podcasting. Make sure you're on Google, Stitcher, Apple, everything. Apple, iHeart podcasting. Y'all got to check us out on all platforms, man. It's going down, man, on Boss Talk 101. Oh yeah. Man, that's why it sound good like that. It gotta be right when it gets in the morning. Cars and stuff. Ain't nobody seeing nobody talking in them cars. It got to be able to, you got to be able to understand what's going down. Oh yeah. You got to be able to connect in person. When you get in your car and you're like, I want to hear a Boss Talk, you just push that button and put it in Boss Talk, Apple podcasting, bam. You're going to say, man, I am on there. Dang, that's dope. So after church, when was the first time you said, this is what I want to do professionally? Oh, good question. Hmm. I think it was approached to me, actually. When I didn't know I could sing, it was like, okay, cool, I know I could do this, but how do I get out there? How do I find a studio? How do I do all that? It was a shout out to young Mark. He does not rap no more, I don't think, but he is a chef and he's a damn good chef. So we can bring him on the show and he can cook. He can bring the burners. Oh yeah. And we can eat taste right here. We need to get that boy on the show. We also got a, is it a KLC song that I'm supposed to come through and bless us that whenever that happens, I'm show waiting on it. I'm hungry now. Yeah. But I went to school with him and I ended up seeing him. He was working at Taco Bell. I'm in the car, my mama, we're getting Taco Bell and that's how we connected. What's his name? One man producer, one of the first producers I ever worked with in Arlington. Wow. Yeah, I think he wrote it for me and everything. I didn't know how to write songs or I just knew that I could sing. Yeah, okay. So I don't know that boy. Thank you. So do you write your own songs now? I do present day, I do yes. Okay. She started off like you on it, you know? Yeah, I know, she said she didn't know cause not everybody, I know a lot of artists that's been coming on say that's how they start. They start off writing first and then, you know, go off in to rapping or singing whether it be rapping at school because other kids be rapping and then or some start later on whether it be in prison or just depends on where. But everybody uses music for therapy to channel all of those words, thoughts cause we all think things but never always say it. So they use it to channel all the things they've been thinking. That is true, that is true. Me? Writing, I had to be taught. I didn't know how to write. I didn't know how to structure a song. I didn't know it was like a verse or a hook or verse or hook or I didn't know any of that. Is there anything else other than that? Cause I know that part but is there any other structure within that to write a song? For me, yeah, a topic. I don't want to go off topic. I want to, whatever topic I chose is what I'm gonna stick with. Okay. The hook, once I lay that, that's it. Then it's just the verse. So you lay your hook first? Depends, it's probably yeah. Probably. Okay. Cause that's the hardest part I would think is to get the hook, a catchy hook. But that's really what everybody hears. Everybody hears hear the hook first before they hear the song. Isn't that correct? Cause that's the part that everybody will sing over and over. Or the beat. So like how he said his daughter hit the table and he heard something, that's kinda how I operate as well. I might say something wrong or sing it wrong but I heard a melody and that's how I got it. So I'm gonna stick with whatever I just heard. Cause it was off, it was wrong but it was right. Wow. So it works the same way. The beat and the melody. How long does it take you to write a song? Now. Not long. If I have a topic, not long. If it's like a fresh beat and like the producer didn't name it or nothing, it might take a minute. Well, not really, it don't take long. How long does it take you to learn how to write a song? Cause I might start writing some songs now. It don't take long, it don't take long. Once you get the structure, once you, you gotta listen to the beat as well. And the beat tells you when to come in. First of all, you gotta pray and ask God to give you that gift. Now you cook good. You do a lot of things good. Well, I have never tried to write a song so you don't know. So you don't know if I can or cannot. All I'm saying is maybe you can but at the end of the day, God speaks to you in a still small voice and say, you know what? You can do it. That's your thing. And you count them, you don't know it but your body reacts to the fact. I just gotta know the structure. You understand what I'm saying? He shows you your gift and things that you bump up against. When she says she was in the choir, you didn't hear that. I didn't, you- I heard that part? I was in the choir too. Oh, but you didn't hear the song on a whole another level when you sung it. I've heard you sing. You know what I'm saying? This is her song. She said she made the song. She could tell it was her doing it. That's heavy. So I commend you for that. Yeah. And I would tell you- How many verses you have to have in a song? Man, you can make one song. It's a song that- Because like, how many times does the hook have to come around before you complete the song? It's the beat, it's the beat. If you ask me, it's the beat. It's some songs out there that they don't have with one or two verses. It's all about what you wanna do. It's really your passion and your heart that pushed through the waves to the people. Yeah, my song Nubu, it has only two verses. See what I'm saying? It's only like a two minute, you gonna wanna wish you had more of that song. Yeah, so- You ever done a song like that, that's all that came to you, put it out. But in your mind, you're like, cause I'm gonna do a part two or part three to it. R. Kelly. Do you ever do that? That's what R. Kelly did, with trapped in the closet at about 20. Because it might not have came to you at that time, but you left it in a state where you could add on to it later on. Yeah, I have a lot of those in the vote. I'll say, as for what I have out now, probably not, probably not. Do you feel like you are where you wanna be with this music? Let's be real for a second. Absolutely not. So you feel like, do you understand what's holding you back? Yes. Who is it? Me. Damn right it is. Now let's keep going. And why is it you, and what is it about you that's holding you back? Various, various things, but I think mainly- Like what, let it all back up. Mainly, mainly I need that team. I need somebody aside for myself. To do what? To do what? To help me market it, to help me become, or come up with creative ideas. For me personally, to know me personally, you gotta know that I overthink a little bit. You gotta know that, you know what I'm saying, just me. So if I could have somebody around me to pick up that slack, or, you know. You need to change your thinking. I'm probably- Change your thinking because, don't always depend on other people, because whenever you are talented, because you are talented, and people see you pushing and pushing hard and working hard without a team. A team will come, because all of those right people, will, God will set them in the right places to see you, and approach you and say, hey, I need you on my team. You don't have to go searching for anybody. And that's another thing, I was gonna get there too. You know what I'm saying? Like I mentioned earlier, the little bit that I've done is gotten great attention. So I know that if I do put out more content, if I do push- Did you hear me when I said earlier, content over create? Content over create, absolutely. Every day, push, push, push. So I do that, exactly what you said is gonna come, the as it already has. But you need to change your thinking as in stop procrastinating, stop doubting yourself, stop holding yourself back. Because in the long run, just like I was telling a friend of mine before, in the long run, you don't ever wanna look back on your life and say, you know what, I wish I did, I wish I could have pushed harder. You see in the past, where I could have done this differently. Don't, you know, the worst you can hear is like, no, or somebody didn't pick you up or whatever, but you can't say you didn't try. So you gotta try. So are you gonna be deploying out in August? Are you gonna be around? I'll be here. August the 22nd, I believe, on that Sunday, I'm doing about nine performances down in Deep Elm. I wanna make sure that you'll be one of those. It's live band. Oh, that's even better. So I'ma hook you up. That's how a big dog do it. I appreciate it. Barking. The nigga, he ain't really pulling it together. Like he, yeah, if I'd have knew, you know, what's going on with me right now, I'm just creating an opportunity for people. A lot of people. August the 22nd? Yeah, that's a Sunday. Yeah, it's gonna be during the day, it's gonna be from three, it's gonna be like a day, following all the way into like 10. So I'll have, you'll get to perform like three songs. And with the live band, and I'm putting up the funds for it. Yeah, shout out to me. Yeah, shout out to you for show. You and I do boss talk one on one, but bosses talk, bow. Yeah, shout out to you. Oh, did you come up with something on that? I don't think so. She just, I don't doubt about it right now. Teamwork, right? I think I just, I came up with that this morning. So I'm just, I'm picking my people as I go. And you one of them. I appreciate that. And you were. And I wasn't one of them because I didn't know nothing about it. So I guess I was excluded. I guess I was excluded. No, no, no. You, you, I'm down with you. I'm going to cut that part. I don't care how you looking crazy. I'm going to cut that part. So, but definitely I want to try to put you on that roster. It'll be, I just got to figure out. I'm going to try to talk to a couple more guys. I know a lot of people. I've been doing this. I do this, you know? So it's going to be dope to hear you sing down there. But right now I want to hear that song that you sung in church. That one that you know that when you sing that song, it is something that you like. Something you like to sing. You got to love it. OK, let me think that I think. Yeah, you put me on the spot with that one. Let's go. You tell me we was talking about church, you know? Let's get it. Let me see. What's that one song that everybody's seen here? Amazing grace. Let's not do that one. That one's so simple. Why are you knowing? Well, you want to hear it. Let me just let me see. No, a friend formed against me. She'll prosper. It won't work. That's it right there. Keep going. Give me a little more. Just a little, just a little more. Man, I was in the spirit right then. Go ahead. She's just teasing somebody. Come on. See, that's what I've been doing my whole career. No weapon. Come on, come on, come on. Sing it with me. No weapon formed against me. She'll prosper. It won't work. But it's dope. God will do what? God, come on. You going to sing it with me? Yeah, I got you. Go. God will do what he said he will do. He will stand by his word. He will come through. I thought you were going to sing it with me. Come on, man. That's dope, man. That didn't even sound right. We're loving the way you're doing it. I'm just trying to get there. I'm trying to warm up. That's a dope song. That's one of my favorite songs, man. Because that's the one you sing when things trying to come up against you. And you know, damn well, it's the devil. I didn't say, darn well, I said, darn well. You know it's the devil. You know, darn well, it's somebody trying to get, you know, you trying to come up against what God has done in you to stop it from happening, man. That is dope. That song right there gets me through. That one and stand. Yeah. That's another one by Donnie McClurk. It gets you through. Oh, that whole air. Yeah, it wasn't just stand. It was another one that he said, we fall down, but we get up. Yeah, that whole air. I still hit you. Hit you like it's day one, like it just came out. And you cannot leave Marvin Sapp out with your God alone. Oh, yeah. You heard that song? You are God alone. Man, I can make it through anything with that right there. You know what I'm saying? There's certain ones, and then you have to think about Marvin Sapp. I'm not Marvin Sapp, but what's that boy named? A little short boy. Kirk Franklin? No, smoking all folks. Stop playing. Yeah, smoking all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That boy with the big boys. You know what he said short is the whole one. The short one. Yeah, but smoking. That Norfolk guy is the one. He got a big voice to be so little. I mean, it's remarkable. He got a song called Dear God or God is Able. And those are songs that get me through, you know? And don't get me wrong. I might be cussing and fussing and cutting up one minute, but those songs right there will stabilize me. Oh, yeah. Y'all ain't ready. Y'all act like everybody perfect. And I have no damn will. I ain't by myself. Not at all. You know what I'm saying? And that's when you know that is God that brought you through all this stuff that you come through and then you sit in here and you own a store and you own platforms that people wish they could do the things that you're doing. You traveling the cities that people would never see. You eating and doing things whenever you want to do it, driving around in the most fancy vehicles. And you still think that we don't know God is real. To come from where I came from. Stop playing, man. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? The whole game, like when you came over here before, I was going through my thing, certain things you go through phases in life. Oh, yeah. It's part of the process. But God say, you know what? He meets you where you at. You know, it don't matter where you at. He can meet you. He say, hey, come on. You still my son. The prodigal son, when he left, he still was his father's son. It didn't matter about him being in the hog pen. He was still his father's son. You see what I'm saying? That's the way you gotta be. You gotta be connected and well respected. Check me out now. So let's talk about you growing up in Dallas, cause that's really where you grew up at. Cause you really, at the age you left New Orleans, you really get, you frequently visit down there, but you are in a Dallas, you in Arlington. That's where you at coming up. Yeah, cause you don't have a New Orleans accent at all. Dallas, Dallas. No, no, no. So yeah, I came here when I was eight. So I'm very proper. Prior to getting here, I didn't have really good English. I would probably say words wrong. No, no lie. If you listen to some people from New Orleans, you know we say some things wrong. Or Jamaica, shout out to Jamaica. No, we don't. And they would pat toine you to death. Please speak proper English. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But New Orleans definitely. You know, when you got here, you go to high school. What was it in high school that you done that stuck out to you that you remember from the ninth to the twelfth grade? Okay, well, I went to four different high schools. Okay. So. What stuck out? Yeah, cause you said you moved around a lot. Yeah, exactly. So I went to four different high schools. I do still play basketball as a hobby anyway. Okay. So you used to who? Yeah, I whooped the entire time. All four high schools. That's really it. I was real quiet, real shy, real to myself. So it's kind of how school went for me. You never did say why did you move around a lot. I understand moving from New Orleans to here, but once you got here, why were you moving around a lot? So initially, when we moved down here, it was homeless. We didn't have nowhere to go. Wow, that's dope. We stayed with my- You know why I say that's dope? Cause I know already that's gonna build something. Oh yeah. When you go through something like this, I was homeless. I get excited. Yeah, yeah. I remember the first day we made it to Texas. I believe we took the train. I remember hugging my grandma before we left. And I remember being on my sister's dad's doorstep for at least 30 minutes to an hour waiting for him to get home kind of thing. So yeah, it was plenty of times where, like I said, I'm by myself, or my mom's by herself without her kids. So, you know, it was times where we had to move because of whatever, you know what I'm saying? So you was homeless when you first got here? Yeah. How long did you guys stay homeless? I don't think it was too long. Week? Two weeks? We probably stayed with him maybe a month or two before we got our own. Not even. We moved in with a church member. You know, church becomes family. Yeah, it does, yeah. Got a grandma out of there. So we moved in with my grandma, my Texas grandma, all that kind of thing. So we moved around a lot. It was just part of the process, you know what I'm saying? So when did you, let me ask this question. When did your mama get her a job and you've seen some progress at eight? I know at nine somebody came home. It was something that stemmed some finance around that time. She started working for the ISD school district. So she's been there for a minute. She's still there? She's still there. She's still there. Do you think that moving around a lot as a young child play a part in your life now? Because I know people who, when they were younger, they moved around a lot. Now they can't sit still as a grown adult. They don't like sitting in one city or one place too long. Yeah, so I could say that I've been traveling my whole life. So even after high school, when I joined the military, I'm still traveling. So still to this day I'm traveling. So I think it does. Yeah, because it's probably hard for you to stay sit still. And if I am sitting still, I'm ready to take a trip. I don't care if I'm just going to Houston for a little bit or to a lake house, anything. So you're right, yeah. And do you think that that plays into your love life as well as in to settle down wise? Yeah, for a very long time, I try not to get into a relationship because I knew that I would either deploy or I have to go away for six months at a time or something like that. So music, same way. Guys don't really handle the music industry very well, especially being pretty or be sound good or whatever. So yeah. That's why some people actually marry people who are in the industry or being in the military, people marry people in the military because they're more understanding with certain things. What's the craziest thing that's happened when you've been dealing with these music ventures? And you don't have to put a name on it, but where something went wrong because somebody tried to make a pass at you. It happens all the time. It happens all the time. I said the most crazy. I don't know. It happens all the time. It happens all the time. They'll hit you with, you know, oh man, you sound good, you this, you that. And then all of a sudden, they in love with you. Well, how did you get in love with me? I didn't even do anything. I just, I'm in here working. I'm in here just doing me. And all of a sudden, you want more. Producers, producers. Producers, artists, you know. Okay, let me see. People that can't control themselves. Let me flip that as well because being a woman period, you're gonna get that, right? Yeah. And I see it on the news all the time. I don't know if you can speak on it, but even in the military, being in the military, you had that young lady who got killed in the military. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I hear that it happens a lot in the military where people above you, males above you, you know, to try to pass their place in different things. How does that affect you or maybe someone else that you know you don't have to call their names? What things have you seen that you're like, that shouldn't be happening? I know they're trying to make some changes, but. Okay, I look at the military like any other organization, like any other job, you are around these people 24-7, you know what I'm saying? They are regular individuals like everybody else. You can try to stop somebody from doing something, but you can't ultimately, you know what I'm saying? Cause they're their own individual kind of situation. But you would think that the government should put things in place to protect you. Do you understand what I mean? Cause the government isn't like the regular organization that, you know, the company out here, whatever they're supposed to. I mean, I'm not talking down on them, but they are. They are the regular, it's a big organization. Because you're putting your life on, you know, on the line for people. So they should put their, not life, but. They should do more. They should do more for you. They should do more, but the way it's set up, in my opinion, you just have people that are for themselves or not even for themselves, just for the job. You have a more for the job aspect, get the job done than for your people and making sure your people are straight. That makes sense. And that's with everything. That's not just the military. I've seen it in several other jobs. Well, you know, all I can say is, you know, you're gonna have to basically have some tough skin and anything that you get into because life has a way of looking you right dead and I and saying, hi, I'm life. But how can you conduct yourself? It ain't gonna. You be you. How can you conduct yourself, example in the military versus, you know, in the music industry, that this does not happen to you or that you can, it's gonna happen, but so you don't succumb to certain situations, so to say. It's nothing you can do. You just gotta go in, walk into every room and be you. I don't walk into a room and I don't be anybody else. If I'm not interested in you romantically, you're gonna know. You're gonna know if I am. So there's no, I'm not gonna give you a vibe or anything that's not for you. Thank you, thank you. It's not for you. Because it's a lot of women that lead this stuff. Yeah, I'm not leading with my body. I'm not leading with none of that. Yeah, I wanna talk about that for a minute. Before you hit me anywhere else. Yeah, because that's what women do a lot of time. They play the game. Especially these days. And then when it happened, they play like, oh, I'm the victim. But at the end of the day, if you'd have seen the way they was facadeing around, then it pretty much called on that type of behavior. Absolutely. So don't you have some people who actually as males, even although you give those signals, they still force themselves on that person? Yeah. Yeah, but you at the end of the day, you put yourself in situations with people. If you're staring like she just said, and you're not showing them no kind of smiles or nothing like that, the same thing Kevin Sammy's talking about, how they frown all the time. Ain't nobody fit to be messing with you. You do that. I think most of the time, women invite them, and I've talked to women that say that, they knew exactly what they was doing when they done it and they knew they invited that into their life. Absolutely. And that's what I hear a lot of. So at the end of the day, keep that strong. And as a woman, you'll see it too. You'll see another woman doing that. Exactly. You ain't gotta push like that. Yeah, you doing it. You ain't gotta do that girl kind of thing. Yeah. And so I know it go both ways. You do have some obnoxious men out there but you have some obnoxious women out there and it's just, it's life. They both ride in the same car in the front seat pushing on buttons and they ain't in a damn car. I don't know where they came from but it really matched. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so, you know, I just really know that with people like you, I look at you and I look at what you came through as far as coming up, being in this functional family, being homeless, going through the things you've been through and turning out to be the woman that you are today. I know that it only was God. Oh yeah. Because a lot of them turn prostitute. A lot of them go out and do things where they got the body that you have. They don't join no military. No, no, no. They go straight up there and get the DGs and wherever they go in the body, what they call a pin up. So one of these places and they just, that's what they wanna do. Yeah. They say, I didn't have another choice or I was victimized, I get it. But a lot of times it's something that you in your heart decide, hey, I wanna do that. I think a lot of people is just missing that main ingredient and that's that relationship with Christ. Boy. Once you have that relationship with Christ, you gonna carry yourself differently. You ain't gonna have no choice but to carry yourself differently. Wow. So how do you maintain that relationship with Christ? How do you make it stronger so you can deal with the problems that you face? You have to read. You remain in the word. No, no, no. You have to read. You stay in the word. Because if you don't stay in that word. You stay in the word. You know what? We're gonna fall out of it. That's right. You're gonna fall out. Evil communication corrupts good manner. That's what the word is saying. And it is so true. If you get caught up in all of the different things, the conversations, the different things that depict evil, spiritual wickedness in high places. Then you start to live out those things. So you know, I definitely know because I've been through it. Everybody has had their taste of dealing with it. Now some people can hide it better than others. I ain't gonna tell the truth about it. But then there's one, some who just say, you know what? I messed up. And then they try to fix it up. You know what I mean? That's what we're supposed to be. Supposed to try to make it better. So how's your sisters? Cause they had all, you got four sisters or two brothers. Two sisters, two brothers. Two sisters, two brothers. Okay, how, how, what happened? Let's start, let's break them down. Okay, let me break them down. My oldest brother, my oldest brother, he had also joined the military. He just got out. I want to say maybe a year or two ago now. Oh, he retired. Shout out to your brother. What's his name? He's out, Byron. Shout out to Byron, man. What's up, baby? But in retired, hey, I already know you're going to double down on your retirement. And you know, yeah, you're P, when you're getting through traumatic PTSD. PTSD. Nigga, I know how y'all getting down. Don't play nigga. Yeah. And then there's my sister, Kiera. Well, Kiera, what's up with Kiera? Kiera, she got my three nieces. Okay. I have all nieces. Okay. No nephews. So she got three of them. It's four total. So she got three. She actually just lost her husband two years ago. How's she looking? Correct. He got killed in North Dallas. Oh, oh, this was a violent act. Yeah. Got into it with somebody. I don't really know the detail. They didn't tell the detail. Yeah. So that was a push- I mean, meeting him, was he the type of dude was a street cat or was he? Oh yeah, he was a hustler for show. Okay, for show. Yeah, he was a hustler for show. Yeah. Born and raised, oh, Cliff. How are the kids doing right now? They good. Okay, y'all trying to fill those gaps. No, you are already familiar with that territory being that your mother had to go through what she went through. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. God has a way of working it out. All the time. All the time. So tell her to be strong, man. I sure will. How old are the kids? We got 12, eight, and just turned four. 12, eight, and four. Man, that's it right there. So what do you do? You go spend time with them? All the time. Already, man. All the time. My youngest niece, the one who lost her dad, she calls me all the time. Okay. You the favorite auntie? Yeah, I'm the favorite auntie. Let's talk about that other one. What, the boy or the girl, who we gonna go to next? Siblings? Yeah. Okay, so then there's my other sister. That's my, she has my fourth niece. And she's like 10, 11, about the same age. But how are they the sister? So they were my example. I ain't talking down on them, you know what I'm saying? But I'm the last of five so I can look up. I can see what they're doing so I can know what not to do. All right, so some of the things that they got into, cool some of them, you're not cool with, you know. Right, right. But at the end of the day, everything's at the end of God. Exactly. The way things fall out, it's already been written, stuff like that. So, but they're healthy. Oh yeah, everybody's good. They have nieces and nephews for you, any nephews? No nephews. No nephews. Okay. So is it, is that the reason why you went to the military was because of your older brother? Yes, yes. And it was sudden. The decision was I'm in the car with my mama once again. And I'm just sitting there and I told her I was gonna join the military. She said you should. That's out of the blue. Out of the blue, it was no looking to it, research, see if this is what I wanna do, none of that. It was, this is what I wanna do and that's what happened. And how long had your brother been in there at that time? I think maybe a year or two. Okay. Maybe, he just kinda went off to training. So I graduated June, I'm 17. I left out in October. So I didn't have no time. Well, I told my daughter don't join it. But she still went and joined. And she went and did it. And I told her, no, all my kid, don't join it. Don't mess with that stuff. It ain't for us. And next thing I know, she come back, she said, I'm in it. I said, okay. I didn't get mad. I didn't say, hey, you wrong or I ain't, no. You grown. Do it. Shout out to, yeah, shout out to Chastity. Day's your night. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, do your thing. She been in there about what, six, seven years? Mm-hmm. Nice. Yeah, get on D and both of y'all, get on to it. Get on to it, you're- Not to. So- So what's your top three artists of all time? Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive, straight up? Straight up. Let me see. Erica Badu. Boom, Badu. Foot show. Badu, that's a, hey, Erica Badu. You heard that? All the vibes. Number one. Number two. Let me see, let me see. I actually had already thought of this, but I just lost everything. I like Kevin Gates. He's one of my favorite rappers. Kevin Gates, boom, number two. Definitely one of my favorite rappers. Kevin Gates, you number two. And- Number three, top three artists of all time. This is probably gonna change once I get asked this question again, but I'm gonna go with Jasmine Sutherland. Jasmine Sutherland. She's always been slept on. She's been slept on. Jasmine Sutherland. She's always been slept on. Already, man. I got the voice of her. Got the look, got the, she got it. Okay. That's dope. I mean, you got your top three? Yeah. Yeah, you, and that's what you're sticking with? That's what I'm sticking with. I'm gonna stick with it. Man, so no Michael Jackson, no Tupac? No. So my next question for you, not to go advise the younger you, but if you could come out of your head right now, as in the person that you are, and this now is the more confident you, speaking to the person who isn't, what would you advise yourself to get you further ahead in your music career? Immediately tell myself, get out of your head. If I'm looking at myself right now, get out your head. Just do it. Just do it. Put the time in, you have the time. Make it work. Just like you do everything else. You go hard with your career, your work. You'll put that same effort right now. Don't wait, do it right now. That's what I would tell myself. So you need to look in the mirror every morning and tell yourself that. As soon as you wake up, first thing you do, after you pray, is tell yourself that every morning. Right now. Wow. So let's get that song that you was gonna sing for us. Yeah, I was gonna sing a song, let me see. Yeah. One of your songs. Yeah, let's get it. I'm excited. I would do one of the new ones. I'm gonna just do Netflix, which came out around the time. Netflix. It's caught in the air right now. So I couldn't pay Netflix at the time to name it that. So I had to change it. It's in the air. Let me see. When the lights go down, Netflix on. Baby, you could choose a movie. Got your PJs on, OG gas and styrofoam. Baby, we could make a movie. Let's chill the night away. We relaxing. We pulling. Let's chill the night away. We relaxing. We cooling. Somehow I fell into your arms. We connected. Just a little bit. Already, man. Say, man, that's what I'm talking about, man. Man, y'all better stop playing, man. We got telling them, boss, I want a one, man. For real? Yeah, man. Hey, man, we love you, man. You know what I'm saying? Man, and the way you keep dropping Christ on me. Boy, let me tell you something. That's all you got to do. You can come back anytime. You already could come back even when we weren't there doing the podcast. But now, you know, we didn't really just get down into it, but this God thing, man, it's real with me. Like, I mean, I guess because I know where I've been and I know what I came through. So yeah, it's real with me. It's a presence. You can feel it. Yeah, yeah. You know you feel it. Everybody know it feels it. Come on now. Come on now. I knew that I could feel it. I knew it was real. I can't deny it. Man, I'm just about playing. I felt it. I can't even, I can't even play with it because. With my music career, I may be going slow, but it's for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's set in its stone. I can't rush it. The thing, my military career, when I feel like, oh, it's blocking me from being more musically. No, it's not. I was supposed to go through this. I was supposed to have this mentality so that when I get in the position that I'm supposed to be, it's bliss. Yeah, I think you're doing it right. I mean, you're right where God would have you to be. You understand that? Oh, yeah. And that's the important part. You know, great heart. You don't, you make your own way. You know what I mean? Ever since I seen you, I sense the independence in you. And I like that. And when I watch your, like your Instagram and stuff, it's motivational. It's not negative. It's always something to where it's a vibe. It looked like somebody who's courageous and trying to figure things out. Young but moving, you know. Yeah. Yeah, you the one, you know what I'm saying? So you just got to keep doing that. You just got to keep pushing. And you know, the music, you know, whatever God I have for you is for you. Like I told Dirk Bentley, the country's saying. Can't nobody take it away. It's yours. You understand where I'm coming from? So you don't have to worry about it. Like you said, man, you can feel it. Shout out to Charleston White that came on the channel and said, is this a Christian station? Oh yeah, when God hits you, he'll hit you no matter what. Is this a Christian station? Yeah. Yeah, that's why I want you to, or to the guys that just love to say, you preaching, are you preaching? It's cool with me. I don't go by title cause title and position don't guarantee productivity. So I go by, I don't go by tradition. I'm not that God is at the church house. No, I'm from the trenches. But there are people that are from that era where they go to an auditorium. But I feel like God is everywhere. Oh yeah. So I feel like he's pretty, he's omnipotent. So at the end of the day, I'm not present. He can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time. He was in the room today. That's why they had to ask that question. He always is. I feel something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you appreciate it. Yeah, that ain't doing it. It's making me feel some type of way right now. I don't do that. I do that a lot. I'm telling you. Because it's the word. You feel it. Because I read and I teach and so it comes out a lot of times and I don't trip. And then you show the real. Oh yeah, then I'll be having a good time. I love somebody. So I just feel like that's the way, I feel like nobody, I can't just invite anybody to sit on this panel because I know already that when I speak, I'm speaking from a place where God has put me in this position. Yeah, so you know, like I was saying, God is so real, man. And Tyana, you are one of the most amazing individuals. Thank you. You, like I said, the thing I like about you is your humbleness, your meekness. You know what I mean? So that's perfect. You know what I'm saying? Nobody but God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I told them earlier to be perfect because I'm perfect. I came at them with Matthew 5 and I believe it's 48. And they was like, wow, whoa, whoa, yeah, yeah. They didn't know that. Yeah, the Bible say put on the mind of Christ. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So when you know the scripture, you already know that God is in you. So you're good. Exactly. And if you mess up, guess what? He still got you. Still got you. That's the good part. You know what I mean? So when somebody, I can't mess up because every time I mess up, I'm like a cat that got nine lives. Or I'm like a cat that they drop off the roof. Every time they drop them off the roof, they keep falling on his feet. Oh, y'all ain't ready. Good landing. Yeah, yeah, that's dope, man. Hey, love you so much, man. Anytime you want to come back on, tell people how they can get a hold to you. Oh, my Instagram. Look at that camera. Instagram, just go crazy. Either one of them. Okay, all right. That one got you too. Okay, well, look, let's watch this. All right, y'all can follow me at Tyanna underscore Michelle. It's T-I-Y-A-N-A underscore Michelle. The best place to find me is Instagram. Just keep me there. Oh, ready, man. Hey, man, love you so much. We got a relationship, a long-term relationship. You know what I'm saying? And I like it, man. And like I said, can't wait to see your live performance. Me and my wife are gonna be set up there. Boss talk will be there. We're sponsoring it. And it's going down, man. So, like I said, it'll be about nine other artists. And it'll go, we think in three years. I'll send you the fly. It's being made right now, okay? And I had to address everything and you're gonna get to show your stuff. I can't wait. Hey, man, check it, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.