 Of the panel today is a parent and a hundred percent of people don't know what a wet phone means Just you had to say it. You had to say it Sarah Lane You reintroduced it though. Oh my gosh, that's it. I don't know what it means. It says March 9th to 2018 urban dictionary, so That's all right. I'm not with it. Sorry. I am not with it either Albert Granis Lane Founded the manual training high school in September 1908 Just training manual Chicago superintendent of schools The manual training is that different than automatic training? Yeah, old uncle Lane is serious to call them things you do by hand Manual training crazy old uncle Lane. My old uncle, you know, he founded a school Out in the Midwest old Albert crazy uncle Albert you crazy guy The uncle Albert had a farm. There's a Paul McCartney song about it. We're so sorry. Yeah, yeah That was Peter Panda. Oh, that's right. I'm making this mix. That's a different uncle Stop just I feel like your children Yeah, you don't know what you're saying Just now we've only got a minute to show time you don't want to do that to yourself, do you do you know I do She wants to know like now. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I do Dear About it good Let's just let's just Great, it's not bad exactly Don't dig into it Tomorrow something else All right y'all ready? Yeah Here we go What's that you want to give back some value for the value you get out a daily tech news show No problem. Just have the daily tech news show comm slash support to find out how This is the Daily Tech News for Friday March 16th 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane I as oh, I didn't know I guess I should introduce myself from not studio 54. I'm I as actor and Spring is in the air in Cleveland. I'm Len Peralta See the patreon pre-show to understand why lens talking like that our producer Roger Cheng has a sore throat So we're not gonna make him talk today unless he absolutely wants to but we're very glad that he is here And we hope you feel better soon Roger. Hello. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know Sources tell CNBC that former chairman of Qualcomm Paul Jacobs Who is the son of the company's founder wrote to the board that he would like to purchase the company and take it private? Jacobs resigned Well, that's the word that we're using as executive chairman last week and Dow Jones reported Friday He may leave the board altogether the Qualcomm board is meeting to discuss Jacobs today He was resigned as in they resigned him Right. Yeah, sure. Okay Pull the Nixon apparently all right So Facebook apologized after its auto suggests in search began completing queries with offensive suggestions including sexual suggestions involving children Facebook is investigating the issue Microsoft is testing the idea of forcing anyone who uses the Windows mail app in Windows 10 to have all links from emails Open in the Microsoft Edge browser no matter what default browser they use Microsoft's Donna Sarkar wrote in a blog post about the test. We look forward to feedback Speaking of feedback Google Lens is really not version 3.15 of the Google Photos iOS app starting with a complete release for all users over the next week Google Lens analyzes what's in an image to give more context on Places of interest or things in the photo itself and etc Awesome. All right, let's talk a little bit more about a new Apple Announcement date I as that's right Apple announced a media event for Tuesday, March 27th at Lane Tech College Prep High School in Chicago Of all places it's gonna be focused on creative new ideas for teachers and students The announcements might include lower priced iPads and MacBook Air's maybe new iPod iPod socks Targeted at classrooms or a new Apple pencil Apple hosts a similar education focused event in New York City home of Pace Salsa in January 2012 and announced iBooks to with interactive textbooks iBooks author and a new version of iTunes you for iPad But I thought Pace was insane I always try to like glean it, you know from the announcements themselves and supposedly the way that it was written the invites Looks like an Apple pencil Yeah, it looks like a sketch, right? Yeah, so that I mean, yeah, it's it's a Exercise in Kremlin ology to figure out what Apple is gonna announce But if they're gonna do it at a high school it makes sense that they would do Education-focused stuff. That's absolutely clear. They actually say that word on the on on the invite and tablets and pencils are definitely part of what Apple is Promoted to education in the past would you say that details are sketchy I would not because you just did Yeah, I think I think what's most interesting is that Apple is making a an off-cycle announcement Related to education. It's it's something we don't think about we always think well Apple makes their their WWDC announcement then they make their iPhone announcement then their iPad announcement and that's it And you know, they've moved things around in the past and they want to open themselves into new markets They're pushing into enterprise with partnerships. They're pushing into education You know competing with Chrome OS and with Microsoft Windows S So it makes sense for them to to want to come up with some new stuff I bet we'll be surprised at a couple of these, you know back in the day when the iPad was first Sort of new on the scene. You saw a lot of school districts being like, okay This is what we're doing for the students now and Chromebooks really just mowed that whole idea over As far as adoption goes because it's way more affordable So, um, yeah, it'll be interesting to see if there are cheaper iPads for students on the horizon last night I Told my Amazon echo to turn off the TV and it did and then said hey Let me tell you about brief mode briefly except it wasn't very brief brief modes rolling out for Amazon voice services It uses sounds like maybe a chime Instead of spoken Confirmations like okay, usually it just says okay, but there's some other things it'll say and it's gonna shorten those up use sounds to Confirm that your request has been acknowledged The echo may ask you if you want to enable brief mode after you make a request like it did for me And it can also be enabled or disabled in the app So if you want to see if it's rolled out to your echo, you just look at the app and look for that switch Is this weird to anybody? Like I didn't think Amazon echoes were that verbose before now Well, I wouldn't mind the chime didn't seem so bad sometimes when you ask it to use a harmony scale We're like getting harmony and then it's like oh, I'm gonna do this thing It's like just just do it and be quiet like you don't need to give me a full explanation all the time Yeah, I don't know it does seem like it's it's an interesting thing I I turned it on and the chime happened And then my wife was like, I don't know. I kind of miss it saying okay It didn't take that long for it to say okay, so I'm curious what other situations I may run into it in and go Oh, I'm really glad she's not chattering at me, but I don't find that to be a problem too often anyway Thursday evening the city council in Plattsburg, New York. I as you may know where that is I have not been there somewhere probably north of New York City Uh, unanimous unanimously voted to impose an 18 month moratorium on new bitcoin mining operations The move was proposed by a Plattsburg mayor call and read after residents power bills rose in January quite a bit Plattsburg is near a hydroelectric dam on the st. Lawrence river that provides 104 megawatt hours of cheap electricity per month That's below the national average But hey if your bill goes up your bill goes up Any overages must be brought on the open market at a higher prices which are then distributed Among citizens often happens in cold months like January But residents feared more miners moving in might raise prices even more So coin mint used roughly 10 of the city's total power budget in january and february local miners say They are willing to work with the city to lift the moratorium even though they oppose it Plattsburg is 305 miles away from me. It's 20,000 people So it's it's not a huge it's not a huge place And it's an interesting situation where they have this cheap hydroelectric But there's a cap on it. So I I get where in the past they had these cheap rates thinking like hey Maybe we get some industry into our small town uh, and then too much industry came suddenly and It's it's weird to me because it sounds like prices went up in january Like usual But because you have all these cryptocurrency miners and because one of them was using 10 of the output People started to feel uncomfortable like well, wait a minute. It always goes up in january But would it have gone up that much if coin mint wasn't around? Uh, and of course all the cryptocurrency miners are saying hey, we'll work with the city Maybe we can cover the overages somehow But they want to be near that cheap hydroelectric power, especially in the summer when the town doesn't go over as often Plattsburg such problems that we all have all the time Microsoft officially announced its cloud it's gaming cloud division thursday headed by kareem chowdhury a 20 year Microsoft veteran that has worked on outlook direct x and xbox engineering Microsoft wants more developers to use Microsoft cloud services like azure But microsoft also has its own cloud service xbox game pass and streaming games is a big focus of the new game of the new division Chowdhury says microsoft is looking at the ability to stream games No matter what device is being used. I think that's pretty interesting Yeah, there's a couple of things going on here One is a very sensible move by microsoft to have its gaming division kind of try to send some business toward the cloud division Right with microsoft azure But also the idea that microsoft could try to become the place for streaming games So we've talked about the services out there like shadow That provide rental access to a device where you can just install steam and run games all day long I would imagine microsoft might not go that far and that open But try to provide something that says hey, it doesn't matter what device you have plug into the microsoft Gaming cloud service and you'll be able to play all our games On whatever device you have because that that's the appeal of shadow is like Oh, I can I can play steam games on an underpowered phone if I want So the question is can they strike the deals to get the games beyond their own? Obviously with xbox game pass the cool thing is any first party game that microsoft makes Comes to that service at launch. You don't have to wait for it to come later But they're certainly not going to get exclusive sony titles to any microsoft service one would imagine Yeah, that seems definitely tough for microsoft to be able to have imagine like a microsoft app on the playstation That's probably not going to happen anytime soon unless they somehow decided to go Okay, we're out of the console business That could be a complete pivot a change in the future because I don't think consoles are long for this planet Maybe beyond maybe 20 years Yeah, unless they were able to take some kind of service and brand it in a way that it was Not microsoft oriented, uh, you're still not gonna have sony wanting to replace their own service You know they they bought gaikai for a reason they they want to provide their own streaming service there So you're never going to get all the games, but I guess Being the pc gaming platform you could give steam a run for its money potentially That'll take some work I mean, yeah, but imagine with steam right now You have all the advantages of a cloud gaming service in that you buy the game and it doesn't matter what device you're on But you can't play them on every device, right? Even though you could access it if it's not available for your platform You can't get it if microsoft comes in and goes haha We're the windows service and guess what we now have a streaming service So not only when you buy the game through the microsoft windows store Do you get access to it everywhere? But you also can get access to it on devices that steam can't run on That's all I want to see is they're tagging haha. We're the windows service Exactly, uh, it's it I don't know. I think this is uh, this is going to be some interesting developments for microsoft for sure and And and pointing the direction to where we're going with gaming I think gaming is more and more going to move into the cloud Uh, or at least going to try to move into the cloud and whether whether people will be willing to do that The way they have with documents and services I remember a lot of people saying, oh, I'll never I'll never move microsoft office into the cloud and and now people do You know, I as you mentioned, you know a 20 year life on, you know physical consoles I think I'm the way less than that You know, I give it I give it eight years The reason I say that is I would say five, you know for clean prices, right like Everyone used to say that about netflix when they were Slowly integrating their services into a cloud on demand stream users service internet's not fast enough There's not enough broadband people are not going to pay the pay the the rates that the the the bandwidth demand And all got taken care of over time and you don't have to get rid of the console, right? You keep the xbox logo You keep the api is it but instead of integrating into a A square box in your living room. It just integrates with a larger larger architecture, it's cloud-based and therefore you could still keep the xbox momentum without necessarily needing A physical xbox. Yeah, I don't think the two are necessarily tied to each other I mean the game console may or may not survive based on the fact of whether it adapts to what people need hardware wise But then the cloud gaming service could be entirely independent of that um I want to congratulate us though on getting this far into the discussion without anyone using the term netflix of gaming And I apologize for being the person to do it. We get it. Yeah All right, uh next week at uh, yc's demo day start up necktome That's n e c t o m e not n e c k We'll describe technology behind its hope to exquisitely preserve brains in microscopic detail Using a high-tech embalming process. That's a quote Necktome promises a chemical solution that will keep your body intact Particularly your brain for up to thousands of years as a statue of frozen glass What does that sound like? This technology review article remind you of anything's very specifically. Okay, does it remind you of something? Tom statue of frozen glass. No no no all right future scientists could then scan that brain and turn it into a computer simulation necktome's plan is to connect people with terminal illnesses To a machine in order to get their data while they're under general anesthesia the company says what they're doing is legal and has consulted with lawyers familiar with california's two-year-old end-of-life options act and There's a waiting list 25 people have signed up With a fully refundable deposit of $10,000 In case they changed their mind they can pull it back out, but there's 25 people on the wait list now There are obviously loads of ethical questions and to be fair in this technology review article They talk about how necktome is being very careful. They're not marketing this service yet Uh, they want to make sure that they put this in front of the medical community To have a big debate so that they're not seen as predatory and encouraging people to die But they think that if they can responsibly bring it to people who are ready for euthanasia anyway And and granted the whole euthanasia debate is its own debate But if they say if we can bring it to people who are in that situation anyway We think we have something to offer Um, I was trying to make a han solo joke. Uh, by the way, it did not Carbonite dammit. We're but um, you know, it's funny I was at the DMV the other day renewing my license and I had to you know, be like, yes, I'm stone organ donor Yeah, I'm into it. You know from dad you do what you do what you gotta do for the good Yeah, um, so, you know on the surface this doesn't seem that dissimilar to me if if there can be A lot of wisdom gleaned from somebody who has passed on whose brain, you know, can be harvested for information I don't i'm not weirded out by this really I as are you weirded out by this a little just because i'm reading the quotes from the co-founder michael mccanna It's saying quote the user experience Will be identical to physician assisted suicide product market fit is people believing that it works Which is a very A co-foundry kind of thing to say but it's a very strange Set of words to be put together the user experience of having your Life terminated and your brain replicated in a beautiful piece of glass, which is wonderful Which is fragile. Why not have something that's more robust? Maybe the glass is gorilla glass. I don't know Now i'm like now i'm thinking of gorilla brains and I don't know where i'm at anymore. So right I mean there is a there's a there's a whole rabbit hole that you can go down to and probably should go down to Honestly, which is why i'm glad they want to put this in front of the medical community for a rigorous debate Before they ever make it a service About whether this will encourage people to want euthanasia that might not otherwise maybe there'll be false hope about survival but Setting that aside. I think there's also an interesting question of what does this actually do all right? Let's say I am definitely uh, you know suffering and and and the humane thing would be to end my life What do I get if I pay $10,000 first of all or more? To to have this done So so again, I'm what i'm trying to say is you're gonna you're gonna be You're gonna be euthanized either way should you be euthanized with your brain preserved as a nectome? With the hope that someday Someone will be able to take that preserved brain. That is Theoretically preserved better than than a frozen brain which destroys tissue more Uh and reconstruct something Even if they reconstruct you in a computer simulation Is that really you is a whole philosophical question and there are big questions about whether Personality can ever be reconstructed Simply from the physical structure of the brain Definitely something like a black mirror situation, but you're dead. So like, you know, let them have at it If you have to pay for it if you can be recreated in a computer This is not Not for the great on watch. These are for people who are like my brain is amazing Study it after I die. Here's 10 grand Yeah, uh, because if you have a lot of money your brain is obviously worth preserving Yeah, I mean everybody knows that the rich you are the star you are Uh, yeah, I I think there is a valid use for this in study and and this technology review article Talks to a couple people who very carefully say we think we could learn a lot From scanning the preserved brains and they they have actually taken someone who died Uh, they were not euthanized using the process. They took the brain two and a half hours after death So it was damaged by by that amount of time and they they used the process then To kind of show the connectome at that stage and there's a lot people can learn from that So I think there's something valid here educationally what we can do research wise Just don't know if it's worth doing otherwise, but I don't know. I'm not ted williams I didn't freeze my brain and put it in Arizona. So Also, I'm alive Yeah, yeah, it's 100 fatal to do this folks All right to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines Dot com you can get it on the amazon echo brief or mode or otherwise get it on the google home on the anchor app and daily tech headlines dot com Lift is testing monthly subscription plans for high frequency users who spend up to 450 dollars on ride hailing a month So you have to be spending a lot on lift to get offered this But if you are you might get offered 30 standard lift rides for 199 bucks a month Another offering was priced at 300 dollars and another at 399 dollars 399 dollars got you 60 rides now Individual rides of up to 15 bucks were covered under these plans A lift spokesperson said that the company has been testing all access passes for several months now Uber tested a similar kind of service in a number of cities in 2016 I don't take lift or uber that often and when I do it's 16 or 18 dollars so this would never work for me, but I as I guess if If you're looking at oh, I have a car payment that's 450 dollars a month Or I could just switch to this. Does it make sense then? Yeah, especially maybe if you're going up and down someplace like Manhattan But then again the timing can influence the cost of the actual trip I just think it's interesting that lift and I guess uber doing this a while ago Is experimenting with how they're going to survive as this moves on There's a lot of other companies including for trying to do their own ride hailing service How are you going to differentiate these different things because essentially the difference between lift and uber at this point is like tremendously bad pr for uber because Because of reasons that I don't need to explain and lift is the other guy So that's why they're different but to have these variances and In services. I think it's a great thing for the future. I don't know 450 or 600 dollars And it'd be great. I could see businesses getting on this, you know, if you're shuttling people back and forth between I don't know an office and a broadcast center back and forth. Sure. It works for people like that I actually have a friend who lives in the same town that I do does not own a car and Has a business discount with uber So it's exactly what we're talking about with lift But it just happens to be with uber and I think that that's probably where both of these marketplaces are going is You know, almost like just like a batch benefit for people Okay, well, if you work here and you don't have a car, you know, we've got some sort of a deal for you 450 a month sounds like a lot But consider if you didn't have a car and you had to go somewhere back and forth every day And let's just say that's 20 dollars, right? And it probably would be more but let's just say 20 dollars You know over the course of the month Yeah, you're getting up to 450 and that's way less than your car payment and the insurance costs for the car as well so In many cases it it actually adds up Well, and don't forget 450 is what you're paying now to be offered the plan the plans are 200 and 400 dollars So they're a little bit cheaper. The idea is you're saving and from what I could tell lift I mean lift does have their own business plans But they really are marketing this as a car replacement for individuals or at least that's the idea lift Very frequently makes a deal out of the fact that they are the future Like you won't need to own your car sell your second car and use lift Uh, I don't find that To be workable for me Because I need to pick up dogs and I need to leave things in the car on multiple errand trips And that just that just doesn't work well in a lift situation I'm also curious whether it's what kind of lifter you're getting if this is like you're getting lift in the really big car That's kind of neat You're kind of saving money or you're getting the lift line where you gotta like run down the like two blocks to be able to access it Is it really as convenient as regular lift? I don't know the actual details. Oh, it's regular lift I mean, they're they're they're not saying it's I think they would be saying it's lift line If it was the one where you have to to run to it, but that's a good question lift excel where you get the nicer cars I mean, I could see no, I don't think you're getting that either That could totally work if they had different subscription models of like, okay There's a lift cheap subscription where like you all meet on the bus stop or the lift stop And if I was getting rid of my car like I don't need a black car, you know, I don't need some limo I just want to you know, just want somebody to you know, be downstairs as soon as possible That could explain the $300 one that that the verge article doesn't have details on maybe the $300 one's regular and the $399 is the Or the $199 is regular and the 300 is the the black or something like that Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and join in our facebook group at facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's check the mailbag. What's in it, Sarah? Uh, lots of stuff and speaking of mailbag after, uh, we record the show today I as and Tom and I are gonna go over some of our Uh emails that we can't get to in the regular show called the dts mailbag until we have a better name for it However, speaking of mailbag, uh, we've gotten a lot of responses scott johnson on, um, Wednesday was like I got this raspberry pie. What do I deal with it? You know, I could get a new one, but it would be be nice to be a purpose so many good so many good options, um And uh, this one comes from paul who's he says it's always burning hot and clear water florida He mentioned piehole, which we mentioned the other day. He also mentioned something called a dsb and ml At receiver to track flights, which is a way to track flights that requires additional hardware minimal cost though And a clear line of sight of the sky for the antenna more money could be spent for higher power antenna to track flights further away But flight data is contributed to the flight aware tracking site and return your awarded an enterprise account at no cost That's cool I use flight aware when i'm at the airport if i'm ever delayed flight aware is what I look at to figure out Where am I playing is when's it coming in that's really really cool um honorable mentions he mentions retro pie, which is retro pie dot org dot uk um requires vpn and then k m t t g which is uh, he says it's his next project not completed But created to download decrypt and cut advertising and re-encode shows from a tiva All right, very very cool Thank you for those and to everybody that the raspberry pie suggestions keep on coming I keep sending them to scott. He's super appreciative Uh, yeah, I would not be surprised if he doesn't find something in there that gets him going on his raspberry pie Well, it's time to check in with len peralta to find out which of our stories today Do you think he illustrated len? Well, you know, I could not let anything go by without talking about the necktome story which really captured my imagination in more ways than one Uh, as a matter of fact, my wife and I were talking about this story last night And what kind of struck me is sort of weird Is that you can digitally upload your memories and everything else and preserve into a into another host eventually if they can get it but you know, it's sort of like um moving into a new apartment and the Furniture is already there and it's sort of like I don't want this furniture So of course the first person that we're going to do it is going to erase all the previous memory It's taking up too much space. I'm deleting everything, you know, so I don't know. Maybe it's $10,000. Well spent. I don't know Uh, so so your worry is that people will reuse the brain and delete you? Well, I think it'll be like, yeah, they'll forget like, oh, you'll your idea is that Oh, I'm going to preserve my memories my ideas my thoughts and one day There's too many too many thoughts because the idea the idea is that you preserve the brain So that people can extract the data and the brain would not really be useful But you're saying that the opposite will happen is they'll not figure out how to use your memories They'll be like, oh, we can actually revive this brain, but it's got all this crap Let's get rid of it first and then we'll start loading it with our stuff and it's like no That's the reality of it. 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We know just I was like man roger must really care about cloud gaming roger chimed in I was like, oh that voice is real weird And you know, I'd lost my voice recently. So, you know, but the struggle is real All right roger's gonna quietly think of a title looking at the uh at the at the suggestions and Here here's here's a fun thing That i'm gonna do because I forgot to do it before the show and I don't want to forget So i'm gonna call it a treat an exclusive extra Except really it's just me doing work That I don't want to forget. So uh, this is the promo that I send a text message I'm gonna record it right now if that's cool All right, I'm with me. Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. All right. Here we go This week on daily tech news show we follow the saga of broadcom qualcom briefly intel and then the u.s Government ends the whole thing talk about why ikea is beginning assembly service in the us discuss youtube's moderation policies Talk about whether a decentralized web aka web 3.0 is on the horizon and Decide if we want our brains preserved for later upload Especially since they have to kill you to do it all that and much much more living stuff at daily tech news show.com I've actually never heard this Yeah, that's uh, I see it. I've never heard you recorded. Yeah. Yeah Nate plays that on the text message. I usually do it before the show But not today Not today Today is not that day There may be a day when the strength of men fail That day is not today. No, that's not today My goodness Electron microscope What about an electron much? I was going to read about this the whole neccom thing. I'm like, oh, yeah Destroy everything and they're fantastic for that and that's something I learned about in college I'm like, oh, that sounds great. They're like, oh, but it kills the subject. You're like, oh, shit Well, do we have to kill it like yeah for science So for science. So essentially that's what this is. It's a man yelling or I guess it's a guy yelling for science We need to kill you. Robert McIntyre says Something you need to do this Speaking of killing would you kill me if I included id3 into our mailbag discussion or Like tags Well, there's a whole conversation going on. I don't have an answer for it. So Oh, yeah, I mean then that I don't know if that I was really hoping to talk about independence a3 or something. I'm like, is there a third one? Lifting subscriptions Make lifts car paint instead of yours or the user interface identical to physician assisted suicide How's an LED tns like colon 100 non lethal I mean, is that true it's quite a clan. You're right. You're right Somebody might die listening to They're in their car and like 100% and that's what they should have been on list subscription Lifting subscriptions. I like that no Lifting subscriptions really we're not going to go with brains I'm just asking nothing about like like glass brains or I still don't understand Like If you have like say my chronic depression and they Save your brain Yeah, data. Does that mean if they ever find a way to put you in a new body You just be depressed of that too. Well, I maybe we didn't make this clear They don't put you in a new body the whole point that the the aim here is that you would get uploaded and simulated So you'd be simulated but what's the point? I just I don't get that like who is enjoying that then This this was a simulated you the plot device of x files Episode three This is like this is also like a black mirror episode in the last season where that woman comes back in that guy's brain I mean are we let me just think you know, I love as I as But if I as uploaded his brain Yeah, and like and I was around my ancestors are out later and they're like Hey, I want to see what I was thinking about what if you could I don't know if I could spend that time What if you could text me like if I'll be living in a simulation like hey I really want to know what this guy was thinking maybe gonna ask him or her like. Yeah, that's like, uh, Altered carbon, right? Yeah, I guess I mean they didn't they download the The mind well they would they could send they could they could they could put people stack into a virtual environment and question them So that would be really helpful for like, okay. How do we get out of this problem? Einstein Hawking anybody? No, so but like would that personally run off? I guess a virtual machine so you could reboot them if they get too talkative Well, I guess you can have their data streaming into some kind of parser so they don't have to be as Then is it that really them then? Exactly, so that's the that's the philosophical question. I'll play those brain. We have that's just a simulation of the person But it's not them. But what's the difference? How do you know? Yeah, if you have all the other theoretically if you have all the memories and all the experiences of you It will that that entity will think it's you So how is it not you all the experiences of you sounds like a great self-help book That assumes a lot. There's a lot of assumptions being made. Well, that's a different question is can't can you do it? But if you can do it Then Is it you? That's why I think whoever we get it would be like, let's wipe this clean There's we need some well. No, I thought that was brilliant because this whole story is predicated on So what they'll do with the brain because it's been turned into class Is to you know, take the memories out of it and upload it But you're like, well, what if they take the glass brain and figure out like, oh, we just do this and now We can use the brain again. Just get rid of all that data though That's crazy. I love that. It's like wiping a hard drive clean. Yeah Yeah, so lifting subscriptions or the user interface identical to the physician is just User experience not user interface. I think that's user interface user experience. Yeah, you're right I don't know. I kind of flew User interface is identical to physician assisted suicide. That's a little difference I submitted one. I don't know where it is now. Uh, brain backups 100 fatal Is it a backup or is it a replication? Well, is there a difference? I think so Backup seems to imply that you can use it Replication means that there's a second one But I mean replication is just a copy Yeah, but it's not accessible though this one Is it Sorry, I'm just I'm overthinking this there's the headline Netflix for cars Netflix for So cars can watch things too All right Yes for cars like cars too like pics are they just can watch movies too Or cars watch uh Movie called humans from the cars universe version of pixar with like a horror thing like the humans go into the cars Oh my god, that's disgusting. Oh, no, they open the door. I actually like feel better soon, roger Uh Okay, we'll go with lifting subscriptions. I'm good unless unless y'all got another No, I like it. All right. I like I like I have no strong feelings ever once again roger is correct Yes It's true. It's why people hate me chloroseptic Chloroseptic It doesn't work. It puts the sep and chloroseptic Tonight just drink listerine and it tastes better. Apparently I used to be like what a floor cleaner listerine reading about that Wait, no, it was started as a uh antiseptic of some sort not a What's the drink it You don't drink listerine guys. Yeah, don't drink listerine folks. Don't take the listerine challenge Yeah That's bad. No tide whatever wash down your tide pods with a slug of listerine swallow listerine It's funny yet the whole idea of mouthwash has sort of always escaped me like every dentist I've ever talked to is like no that doesn't do anything just brush your teeth Yeah, well, I think it's I think it's a follow-up to brush it's a masking agent. Yeah for your bad breath It Well, it's not marketed for bad breath. It's marketed to kill germs kill germs Yeah, but I mean that's what kills the germs that cause bad breath I'm not wrong. I says it was sold as both a floor cleaner and a cure for gonorrhea First or later listerine for instance was invented. This is from steven d levitt's Book Freakinomics now. This is from Wikipedia. So I don't the actual thing here So I'll have to look at it Okay, that's a quote from it listerine for instance was invented in the 19th century as a powerful surgical antiseptic Right. It was later sold still form as both a floor cleaner and a cure for gonorrhea. Okay But we're both right It wasn't a runaway success things were, you know, cocaine was a you know Analgesic Yeah Dynamite was invented to bring world peace. How about that? Totally worked Absolutely, that's why we don't have any wars. Yeah I mean, that's why that's why it is Been made up in those cartoons with the tnt and the we don't have any wars with tnt That's right. Yes. No one uses dynamite in their wars anymore Yeah, we use different things to go wily coyote and his war against that damn roadrunner I was watching the last Jedi with commentary yesterday and uh at towards the end there's a big pile of boulders and Uh, ryan johnson was like I kept telling them in visual effects. No make it more wily coyote I want wily coyote boulders Oh, it's like a like a triangular set of rocks. Yeah, yeah, it's like a giant one It's like no, that's too easter more wily coyote. They rolled in a painting of boulders And then a body a painting of a tunnel and then a painting of boulders And then chewy comes falling out of the sky and stops Or he falls off the side of the cliff and doesn't fall. Yeah, it keeps walking until he notices and then he falls Wait, he's gonna make a noise first, right? And then he falls Well, not that noise That's the falling noise. Why is tech meme just now telling us that dig is shutting down dig reader Wasn't that like three days ago? Yeah, it was a couple days ago. I guess not Well, no, but the news was Well, it's Friday. Maybe maybe the algorithms are I definitely I had some old stories that came across my desk this Friday as well. So what are they coming by like freaking carrier pigeon? Uh, yeah That's why that window is constantly closed. You might not know this but venice beach Inundated by crows And right around 7 a.m. Every morning. There's a chorus of crows like they're just You mean a murder a murder And by that, I mean sara goes out and wants to murder the crows for being so Seagulls left in that area You see some seagulls here and there but mostly In san francisco is that just The number of crows has increased since I was a kid in fact when I was a kid there were a few to none Uh, and the number of seagulls has dropped dramatically I don't know if the crows are pushing the seagulls. I mean, so I live next to a pier Like if you walk out on the pier, it's all seagulls, you know, it's fishing and you know, it's it's not like seagulls don't exist But right on the seagulls ate the bees That's why they disappeared then the crows ate the seagulls seagulls got their own problems But the crows I am so that is just a they they are an Unfun bunch of birds Well, maybe the seagulls are really just these these crows are actually emo seagulls. They're dressing all in black Got it. Yeah, like that fighter man movie. Exactly. That's what's going on Do you think seagulls are disappearing and the crow population is increasing? It's the actual same population Um, listen the crows aren't fun sara because they're guarding the realms of men Right, right. Um, and also a bag of doritos Which happened to be I saw it like in the alley where the running is near One of the crows was like attacking the bag It wasn't open like someone just like left a bag of doritos on the on the ground And then there were two other crows like signaling to the other crows like we That's what they do You know where I was like This is really an extra They uh, they found a half eaten hot dog out of my I decided to walk in front of my house I swear to god one crow looked at it for like five minutes. Yeah, and then they're like there's like 10 Just annoying. I had to use a garden hose to shoe them away And you're making eye contact with the crows and they're kind of No, they remember you crows remember you and they're gossipy birds How long do they have to worry about long enough like 12 years? Well depends. Is it a ranger or I mean, they're angry. They are some angry birds I almost went down and like open up the doritos and was like just have at it, you know, calm down Stop staring. Oh, you don't have to be worried for seven to eight years Until the doritos deteriorate lots of captive bird apparently they live up to 30 years. That's not helpful at all Really? American crow. I gotta move I can't deal with these crows. You got to quit counting crows Sarah Uh, yes, good one. Everybody did in the 90s. It's a long december Grandma there, what's going on there? That's your old uncle Lenny Oh uncle Lenny, how you doing everybody? He's agreed a very unpopular toy shop because he needs everybody like, okay All right, I'm gonna start my weekend guys. You should you deserve it great You know, even though I have a 10 o'clock call tonight Take your take your weekend and have electron microscope Stand it. It'll kill it That's right. You'll have it forever I like that and I'll remember this weekend forever You can always look back upon it. This is the only piece of memory that will be available If see if I were to do that and spend $10,000 Then eventually they would access my memories. It would only it would be there'd be a glitch something would go wrong So be the stupidest thing Price has gone up $10,000 gets you this one memory if you'd like to access the rest of your memories Please pay the following the freemium models coming Yeah, let's see. Yeah, you're just it's just like a preview preview. All right, everyone wave at your cameras. Good. Bye We'll see you later everybody and now our watches ended