 My cousin was you heard about the jigsaw killer. Yeah, right. That's my first cousin That's who's ass. I used to go to to escape my mums All right Steven was on trove for that, right? I know the ins and outs of it and I say it now because He rang me up The morning I wouldn't man And he basically told me the truth. She stabbed the geezer in the back, right? I said, where is it? You said he's in in shower gone And he just didn't know what to do with him he just he was So that's all it was a girl stabbing someone but what I'm trying to get this is the bit I'm trying to get to When he goes a trial The prosecutor that his barrister said to him listen They're talking about giving you a whole life sentence now Steven at the time Was being medicated from wood ill prison and was like a gun just zombieed So they asked him a straight question you need to give the judge something to stop and give you a normal life sentence So he said just sitting there like that. He said in the call trial. They said he'd done this before, right? So they said have you done it before? He went like that Just put four fingers up. That's it. He goes in the culprits He has cut up four mother bodies and complete nonsense But you shouldn't have allowed that to be used in that trial and the other the other thing to do with that that case The girl give evidence against him who was the main witness. I Should have bought a statement. I forgot it She said she met the family, right? The Adams is right. She met him at Stevens Nans funeral She was introduced to Tony and Terry Now They know there's not a Tony. All right, the police But they still allowed the evidence to go in printing the papers and made a big for all That he'd been doing what he'd been doing for them. It's absolute nonsense. There is not a Tony and there's a Terry But my uncle is Tony and Terry they was Stevens uncles not them But they allowed that in as evidence and it just crucified him with him going like that And he said it was a mass mantra. They all said he was it was getting rid of bodies. Yeah, it's Listen, just because he lifted his hands lifted four fingers up because he was told a nest Let's get it right. She said he used to do it with me We we we was the ones who used to do that the jigsaw colors. Yeah That's not fuck's sake. Paul. No wonder your head's fried But you imagine I've got all that going on in my head. Yeah And I've now got to go to people and go listen. I'm gonna mark your card about something This has been said in Colton. It's like What the fuck's I got to do with us? Mm-hmm, and it just You're our wed starts. Yeah, plus it spirals as well with the papers the news everything they just didn't stop