 Welcome once again to the breakfast here on PLOS TV Africa We're going straight to off the press where we have a review of the major stories making headlines across Nigeria this morning I'll start with the Nigerian Tribune and of course I say good morning to Chris Wandoo publisher of CKN news Thank you very much for joining us sir Thank you very much for having me. Good morning. Good morning to you So let's start with the Nigerian Tribune should be in your screen in just a few seconds And we can get to share some of these Major stories. Yes, sir. You have it. It says Supporters and oba's throng Kotonu court as the both trial holds behind closed doors ghani Adams rallies Ben I guess this has been a Monax a fenifereal Lord Zulu Bada and Oni Too killed as bandits abducted two soldiers traditional ruler Doctor's wife and over 60 passengers in Bernou, Kaduna, Sokoto and Benui Also 124 civil society groups threatened nationwide protest over a amended electoral act 49 Euroban nation agitators docked over led murder and unlawful assembly Tension in Anambra Commercial activities grounded in a boujah over namdekanus trial DSS fails to produce him in court trial adjourned till 21st of October Kinsman raise alarm over his health and I also IPOB six assess to him PDP governor's meeting Balchi insist on electronic transmission of results without new constitution failed leaders will emerge again in 2023 Bowery signs 982.7 billion Naira supplementary budget heads for London for education summit and medicals and Also, Kaduna suspend school resumption indefinitely for more Baptist students freed Or gonna use block East West Road in mother of all protest against neglect by the federal government Away from the tribune. Let's go to the nation newspapers this morning Police chase away both men from Ben Noir court George sends agitator back to custody this on the nation newspapers this morning George others Canada remain in DSS custody Now failure to produce him pushes trial till October Supporters arrested and freed daughter of amoteco operative abducted in undo We can also find on the nation this morning investors stake 253 billion Naira in private markets 526 die of cholera in 18 states and US report says 305,000 Nigerians are refugees Bowery in UK on two weeks official and medical trip while two soldiers and 60 travelers abducted Tamboal says corrupt TDP chiefs joining APC and That's on the nation this morning moving on now. Let's see what the punch newspapers has for us PDP governors APC clash Forum carpets federal government over killings and massive rigging plot opposition governors rebuke Bowery regime Allerging competence stifling economy PDP a failed party sinking Governors are communicating tissues of lies as the APC Also this morning Kanu supporters storm court celebrate as DSS fails to produce IPOB leader Battle rages over a boo-hoo's bill been a been a court in the marathon session and woman cries out as girl 12-year-old goes missing Hawking granades in undo Asso grumbles over inconsistency in salaries falls IPP is again Still on the punch federal government shifts data vaccine arrival delta variant jumps to 10 and Bowery's clamped down on freedom fighters Borders on ethnic Cleanson says a fennefair Nigeria's revenue to GDP ratio lowest private sector choking says assess the World Bank And I think I can squeeze just one more from the punch this morning Reps want NIMASA NSITF officials prosecuted by the EFCC I'll quickly just share one few from the Guardian and then we can go to our guest on the Guardian this morning Cano's absence forces three months delay court deters on Igbo Ho's fate Um Writer's to that stories say I made heavy security DSS blames Kanu's absence on logistics difficulties IPOB leader drugs Nigeria and Kenya to African Rights Commission six returned to the UK IPOB to DSS produce Kanu to prove to prove he's not dead And also PDP governors insist on electronic transmission of election results reject direct primaries Pretty much the same stories across the papers. Mr. Wanda. Good morning once again Thanks for joining us the I think we will start with the name the candle and Sunday Bohor controversy Namdy kind of first of all the DSS failing to produce him Trial moved all the way till October What's your response to that? This is not a color yesterday to me was laughing when you talk about logistics What do you know about it? I think they are talking about I'm covering you are not to provide an authority Then they are being with the federal court to list them And this is only 10 media assets to conduct or that way We'll be present Don't know to do that So for me it's very loud and that does not create us as a very serious in the moment People if you are a rest somewhere, and you know that it has me for the year The Is your part to be able to do that And the no-sense of the business to me is there as I mentioned here on this laughing Then we also the action of preventing the defendants The lawyers of the county from assessing the court. They saw the drama that makes And in most of the video we saw We defend and we are supposed to be As we have been to the court and that to me was When a democracy as I said I've only said and then this is not yet to regime. We are people just When it comes to position of search I'm not with you too much of that Everything is done right some to give the pressure that Some people are indisputable. So if we are bringing such a thought and you are not able to allow Lawyers to defend them That is a That's a big problem then for that we also Store the kind of Why would you join around the case for things that would be also for months because we were told that Initially that The lawyer said that he's going to be an accelerated into the case So why why are they to I'm not a remorse. What about the ones you see that they are conducting Investigation is it as a study is I I knew is it um, there are issues that need to go back. I thought that this would have been a Very very it have been given in later here The three months that to me is also personal But the court has them. This is really not that unless we're on the 22nd to trust about what happens Okay. Well, um There's also a story of the president jetton off to the uk once again for an education summit and also for health Checks. Yes. Um, you don't forget that the president was to travel a few weeks back But for certain reason didn't make it at the last moment Then I think it's taking the privilege of this summit this educational summit going in London So go for that and I'll have that Go for his medica The I don't have any educational summit If it's not going to be officially tonight. Why not? But the issue of the president going on Check out To me is what is the big voice on to me because I thought back now Would have our first class Hostos in Nigeria that can bring them to any issue with the president So that's not to be People with a euro his daughter in London Uh, I think that the music now that we're able to handle issue of Our headset so I was supposed to be Because for now All around Nigeria But at any point in time every individual To That um, that's what I have you know is what we uh, we had animal some The president is Very important to us anything that can be done To make sure that president That is also Like that's money And definitely president In foreign And in the situation we are working about Not having enough in our foreign results every single A month that can be safe should be there both of you know that that's what privilege That is equal to accept It is It's unique to a bicycle we call for a motorcycle And but if it's similar than that we also be looking at the transmission of Power to the vice president herself Restrainting the constitution. Yeah, all right on the Nigerian Tribune. This one there's a story from Kaduna state that says Kaduna suspends school resumption Indefinitely and also announces that four more of the Bethel Baptist school students have been found Information that we received say they were picked up by a couple of people and that Even one of the people who rescued one of the students still demanded to be paid before he releases the young boy But of course, you know, this has greatly affected Schooling in Kaduna states Um, what's your response to how the government has handled it so far? We want you to say it out separately that The way I manage that the governor state government suddenly the issue on the tree and the kidnapping For me Is not good enough If we say that you're not going to negotiate with That as a state government The people So We can see that those students Are the weeks that they They call the first bandwidth and you can see how good they are and it's only 28 there at least We say about 87 I have seen with the band is not that we're saying for a case to stay about by a three And if I was going to say that Which give us the pressure those that we agree that those that That special someone calls her so those that back there those that They're breaking up So that kind of hitting is not good for us. I think any humane person To make those students There are some that were kidnapped from an Islamic school and so the other of them Stayed in the bush. We can know what the parents goes through to realize his child is in the hands of bands That is where we find ourselves and that is the situation with ourselves And we just say that You know, it's on the nation and I think on the guardian saying that two soldiers and 60 other travelers were abducted And that's the story that Chris Wander is referring to this morning We can also quickly speak on Nigeria's cholera outbreak. It says 526 on the nation 526 die of cholera in 18 states and About 22,000 cases recorded Should this be a national issue at this point? In particular, I think the last time I heard I think that it is this already and 526 people have died That is much done Not only reported in the last two months and they were postage money into the into the 19th I think the federal minister of held the And the relevant is should not be able to assist This cholera is very very dangerous disease that Thanks for the purpose of what they can keep doing for us and Hygiene And water So For our while we're looking to read and challenges There's another disease that is a since killing our people at the highway and But that got mentioned to something good if I got met at state ministry of And held and to able to just enough artists. It has 58 How relevant is the pdp governors insisting on electronic transmission of Results and also rejecting direct primaries Do you think that that might still have any effect with the next general elections? Well, the The And my wife's men at the national assembly Have made up their mind who wants And I doubt if the pdp governors have anything to say Um, I call them this man because it seems to me that all of us If the major engineers are saying that is the way to go and the wise who he kept and where he said to represent us are saying This is the age the other way to get them is we're working at first But For me That And I think that Any I think that is Because the Is If you do not please Survivor on the how another ages could make an easy. What is this you get to do with a election? That is taken into account. Don't forget that also the Shona in charge of art education came up to say that before that It was passing to that they had a meeting with a national assembly And It was a great that yes That this thing can be translated and they say it is possible that this can be done So why would the national assembly go back on the promise that The meeting was they had and in agreement to be if not for I don't believe that some people have some Indian idea to work in t23 and That's you could see what happens The local government has a head in the legacy them But we see two days ago where you so people are just doing to work. That's what we're supposed to work was completing a pretty circle We must have seen views In that is going to be So I am can go to cost to change those provisions And I'm sure that Yeah, so wonder still on this topic before we move to something else Where do you think we have a challenge with regards the connection between the The people and their representatives Because I don't know if you know majority of Nigerians Or if the national assembly has spoken the the minds of majority of Nigerians because I believe that's what they should be there to Do they're there to represent the people and interpret what the people wants So, you know, if they've taken this decision, is that what the people are saying or does it matter what the people are saying here? The first question you should ask is how we are doing the elect That is the question. Did you elect most of them? If that is the if you have another that that sure They don't represent my constancy Most of them are going to the constancy I can tell you So You know But those Or the I believe that this is more of a selfish agenda rather than that of the people Most of them are that he's going to be an electronic solution of results Most of them we don't get protected Because it is known those elections You are talking of um criminalizing Who does this who snatches Malo but it was not follow-up So if we can be talking about 10 or 20 years If we want to Which is talking about follow-up So there is a lot of disconnect between Those that we say we are repeating us in the assembly and those that represent They are not hearing what they want and that is why when I said the wise man I saw you laughing at that time I said The wise man All right, I'm going to put two stories, you know side by side with my next question Um earlier on my top trending discussion. I spoke about Paso Tunde Bakare A video that was released. I believe yesterday Shared his views on the current administration And of course stated that, you know, Nigeria will survive the current administration and a new Nigeria will be birthed He also of course shared his maybe anger with the current administration and how he They don't seem to you know take counsel from him anymore, you know after he You know was part of the force that brought them into power But something that he mentioned was the Nigeria for Nigeria Movement, which he says is coming It says it's going to be different from the save Nigeria group Is uh save Nigeria movement, you know from 2014 2015. This was called Nigeria for Nigeria But I want to share something from the Nigerian Tribune this morning It's from Afair Babalala. It says without a new constitution failed leaders will emerge again in 2023 So I want you to put this side by side because earlier I had said that, you know, however the Nigeria for Nigeria movement is painted Um, however, it's you know, whoever it is, you know that decides that they want to lead that if that person Doesn't come with the knowledge that a new constitution You know needs to be birthed with the fact that there has to be some level of restructuring That there have to be certain changes in order to build, you know, a better Nigeria Then it might be, you know Very much similar to what we've had in the past and nothing different will change Whoever it is that takes over that position in 2023 So I want you to put these two side by side Do you believe that, you know, according to Afair Babalala without a new constitution failed leaders will want to get emerge in 2023 And can we have a new Nigeria somehow some way without these Things being put in place First and foremost, with sense of the liberty of the restructuring I personally take the past of Dundee Bakar And to say a personal opinion Past of Dundee, very close, both from the court Even at any given point of time Um, he of the same Nigeria for the group and we saw what happened at Ujjota Um, just over an ordinary hike of um, I chose the petroleum products there We've had worse chance now I would have expected, um, past of Dundee Bakar now to have also used kind of, uh, because they have a nice Nigerians to also put against not just the government, not the government The high level of insecurity going on Nigeria now It's not just by just, we have serious security challenges and the area we've been in before and make Nigeria If, if past of Dundee Bakar rises up today and there are today and lies Nigeria and say They talk to this Abad This is what they have to do They don't even forget Abad, the, the, the love and those that are there I'm talking of the gaping of all the people that is going on Nigerians we come and support that But, um, what is happening Abad? He was taught by somebody in God that, you know, that he started talking You know, you come, you come after him and that was to me, let's go They're going to revert the senior advocates of Nigeria Afibaba, La La La Yes, we have been talking about constitution and the need for us to have a new constitution Most of us have given that the present constitution as we have cannot work It was the constitution that was given us by the military Although they say we're Nigerians, we're Nigerians I mean of course Adam to Abad the constitution and good for, uh, and How many of us took part in that? It was the constitution that was given to us by the military But instead of the current, uh, yes, the National Assembly spoke to, uh, and made men of this constitution Personally, I agree that it should totally do away with the future And part of the problem having is the constitution Most people still believe that that constitution will capture the essence of a unity as a The agitation that is, you know, not just the election, you know The agitation that is going on now is that we have a high level of imbalance within the constitution We are certain part of the country don't see themselves as talking to the To the country have any sense of the longest, why you see the people who are sending them their carload And every other person agitation So if we can be able to have a working constitution that we're able to take care of All this, all this problem that we have, we have a better, um, society But the way it's structured now, the 1999 constitution as I mean Is not addressing The issues as it and we continue to have this problem Especially when we invest such power, we invest in the federal government To the detriment of this and local government is not going to Over, over 5% of 51% of the resources that we go to the federal government Whereas the local government and the state government But for 10 or 48% It is not is working So and you can see that so much power is on the federal government on the exclusives In the exclusives, the last thing is that the government cannot do all that government We are talking of state pussy Federal government in charge of policing We are talking that that should make you push to centralize yourself we can have So it is a big bet you should start on we bet Good enough the national assembly is um Is trying to put up some level of men I don't see how that Well, don't need a piece in a amendment. We need a totally new constitution. So I totally agree with Um, jim part of our la la or that point that part of our problem is the constitution we are in But over and over that our leaderships, our leaders are also part of our problem Just not just constitution you can have the constitution is for if you have it does not be Already to respect and you are good back to square one All right, and uh, you can also quickly share your thoughts on uh, the sunday boho Uh issue in uh, been a republic Um, you know, he was of course once again, uh, the sunday boho is right actually, um, yes By uh hours After that he was sent back to kept in custody I think they will assume that I think a lot of it's not just but I think a lot of Manopra going on The sunday boho case have just has gone beyond just meanwhile nice political anguish so I think that is was holding on. I don't whether it's Nigeria Nigeria is trying to make sure that he's uh treated back to Nigeria To face charges best. I've already There is no court in Nigeria That has someone who he will not have any case any So even if it's going to be who comes back today You'll be going back as a friction as the federal going to now charge him For certain offenses, but there is no unlike the count of the house A minor case in court sunday boho does not have any criminal case In any Niger court, we should be able to talk about the situation as it were and um The court is being made by especially the office of certain community For them to go to pen and But the other aspect of it I don't also like is why we did better government budget is from um that process That to mismatch I didn't like Nigeria That also bad Certain media has been covering Did not decadent Well, let's see how this goes. I'm sure the next few days. You know where it's on that case is going to take All right, Chris one do publisher ckn news. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Thanks for starting about tuesday morning With us. 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