 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Might pop might pop with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this episode of mind pump This one's this one's spot. Oh my oh gee cush No, it's not so for the first. I don't know 30 minutes or so. We do our normal Introductory conversation current events talk. Yeah It wasn't normal is extraordinary. We talk about the Google Heart disease predictive Algorithm magic. They actually have a device or something that can predict heart disease with something like 70% accuracy Just by looking into your eyes Look into my eyes We also talk about the woman who can smell Parkinson's disease she can actually sniff Parkinson's on someone and no it's not when the symptoms are present Adam That would be obvious. Yeah, we also talk about dogs that can smell cancer That's actually a true thing. I think it's a bladder. I like it, huh? What do you think it smells like that? I have no idea like cancer, okay? Then we talk about Barney for those of you that are not old like we are Barney was this purple dinosaur It was super super annoying. Well the guy that was inside the Barney costume Is now a psychic. He'd know he's a tantric sex guru Tantric sex guru and he did say something about how being Barney helped him with that. Mm-hmm gross. Yeah, we talk about time travelers and Psychics that's where the psychics came in time travelers and psychics. No Barney's not a time traveler in a psychic, right? No, but that still would have made sense. Yeah, I also mentioned Four-Sigmatic Chaga and it's apparent Boner boosting effects. Whoa. In fact, it's happening. I bet you they didn't even know that as I'm speaking We are sponsored by Four-Sigmatic. If you go to Four-Sigmatic F O U R S I G M A T I C dot com forward slash Mind pump and enter the code mind pump. 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That's totally I did good until then Yeah, then somebody asked us do we have any advice for someone who wants to start their career as a trainer and then? Eventually keep awful advice once you open a gym Dream-shattering hey fast forward this one. Yeah, we suggest you play the lottery person to ask you have better chances there Yeah, pretty much the next question was what is our opinion on somebody? Somebody being motivated to work out just so they can in their in their words get girls. That's kind of creepy sounding Is extrinsic? It's extrinsic. I can't say motivation as good as intrinsic motivation Stringy, you don't have talking about while you're motivated by something outside of your body Versus being motivated by something in your body Adam. Whoa in it. He gets very motivated. It's intrinsic the final question If you're hungry and you have no other options So this is one of those either or questions that probably never exist and exist in real life But let's say this is reality and you only have two options eat process crappy food or Don't eat any food. Which one's better? Which dog are you better Twinkies? Oh find out in this episode also? I've been getting a lot of messages lately from people who are You know, they're they're they're curious. They're like this. It's no joke It's a lot of the messages are saying this just started listening to mine pump huge fan. I'm very serious about my fitness I want to either lose weight gain weight. Whatever, you know, they always tell me their goals Which program do you think I should do now? Typically what I do with these people is I ask them what their goals are and I get trying to get deeper But ultimately my my answer is usually the same. 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You do that. You're done with that. Boom now You move to another maps. Maybe you moved to maps performance. Now you're doing mass performance This is gonna highlight everything that you may not have been doing everything beautiful everything now You're doing mass performance. That's four phases. That's four You know, that's that's 14 weeks long then you're like, you know what I want to work on my aesthetics Boom maps aesthetic, you know what I want to do some body weight at home type training Boom maps anywhere. I mean you go down the list your body's progressing the entire time It's one year of exercise programming and the best part is here's how we set up our programs with a lot of other fitness advice You have to pay monthly every month if you want that not with us You pay once you get this you get access these programs for life For more information or if you're just seriously you want to do this go to mine pump media comm Did you hear about? Google's new algorithm So Google has this new algorithm that can look at the the blood vessels in your eyes and tell What stone no, no, no if you if you're if the potential of having heart disease and It's so blood testing right now is like 72% accurate to this and this test hits at 70% It's just imaging the eyes. Yes, that's all it's doing you like looking into your computer screen They can they can figure this out. It's all looking to my eyes. Yeah, you have a heart attack Sorry already find it Doug. Oh AI algorithm predicts heart disease by looking at your eyes Hmm. Well, what what specifically in the eyes are they looking for? I don't think they tell you Well, that's that sounds like magic Bro, it's it was this is day. They ran it on like they did like a 3000 3000 study group, right and 70% of them were spot on accurate, right? Well, the blood testing hits at like 72% So that's currently right now That's how we would test for heart disease would be through blood testing and blood testing is still not a hundred percent accurate It's 72% accurate. This would hit at 70% that's a big fucking deal. It's not invasive. Yeah, that's what I mean It's not invasive. You could do it probably from your home I mean, that's it. That's a big fucking deal. No, that sounds crazy. Actually if it's a AI I could see this being an app. Yeah, right. Well, I imagine it reminds me of the conversation I had with this guy who created the monitor to you know, check and see like your aerobic threshold, right based off of You know the height of your chest and like the patterns You know when you breathe so Actually, they could they could accurately predict when you would finish in a marathon To the very like minute. Oh, that's crazy Yeah, because of all the aggregated data that they got from that and how This repeated this pattern repeated amongst like I can see that you can tell by someone's VO2 max and like okay Based off of how long this person be running on average They'd probably fall around this time But this was even more accurate than the VO2 tests and all these other like metrics they've used before There's a lot of things that are unseen that we don't realize will help you predict What's about to happen? We just don't know because we don't know that they exist Yeah, we haven't been monitoring them. We just don't know like using those numbers and watching like there's this woman a British lady who Can smell Parkinson's What what yeah, I'm no joke. So she can let me see how she let me look it up She can smell it Like what is that like she's accurate like all the time like what's and why just Parkinson's? She's extremely accurate Yeah, she's extremely common to have like the shakes with Parkinson's You're not very talented if you walk up to people and smell them and their hands No, no, so that's that's later on a little obvious Yeah, I think she can smell the Parkinson's before you get the the symptoms of it So I don't think she's walking up to like Michael J. Fox and she's like Excuse me, excuse me for interrupting here, but You smell like you know what? Yeah, I have a diagnosis for you. Oh, that's weird I could smell obesity Someone weird smells like farts. I get so oh Doug founder. Yes So what they're doing is they're studying her To see how they can develop a test based off of what she's detecting with her nose What? Yes insane. Is she the only person that's like this? This is the only person they've ever well There's dogs that can smell drugs. I know that I No, they don't I don't you know the dogs at the airport aren't there to smell drugs bombs. That's right Yeah, they don't give a shit about drugs. Trust me. I've gone flying with Adam many times Every time there's a dog I like I separate myself from Adam Like I have it a plan in my head like He's on his own he would sell me out here. I just keep walking watch to arrest you I'll get on the plane gotta go No, so yeah, so there's dogs that could smell cancer You ever wonder why the doctor there sometimes and then sometimes they're not there Just because they probably don't have enough money to have them there all the time. Well, so it's it's random Oh, I bet it's It's random. I bet it's real random. Why do you know? I don't get why you're saying that Why do you think because I find it strange? I find it's like a conspiracy. I'm not saying that either But I'm just saying I'm just asking you if you know why the dog is there on random random fucking days and other days The way you say to me to sell like oh, I know that they're not, you know, I mean like week week Yeah, you know, I know what they're doing up to yeah I know what those dogs are doing when they're not around the Luminati They're playing cards. They're playing poker. I've seen the picture. That's right. No, it's it's pretty crazy But yeah, they can smell these things in people. So they're actually training dogs to smell cancer. That's crazy, man Yeah, I mean, it's I know that I don't know what I've heard stories of dogs that they can definitely sense death And so they'll go to their owner or whoever and like you're gonna die. Yeah, but like they'll go curl up to him like it happened it like What do you call those like? Where people are like on their way out? Hospice, thank you. Anybody who's happened a much time anybody who's had pets for a long time Especially dogs knows this like when you when you get sick my dogs know you could tell they know You could tell that they just the way they cut all up to you. They're way gentler. They're what are they doing? You have sex, huh? Yeah, I've always wondered that I never had a key close the door But then they're like And then they like wine and scratching it ruins the mood anyway because I so I grew up They have to learn Listen, there's it's called doggy style. They invented it So I learned from that I've had dogs my whole life But I never they never lived in the house because we're you know old-school times right dog lives in the backyard in the doghouse So I never knew I never experienced that and I always wondered that so I figured right now be a good time to ask So it depends. It depends. Are they in the room with you? Yeah, the ours are always in the room So they're yeah, why are you smashing always? Yeah, 100% they live in our room So they we when we go to bed like so Katrina and I are like what they not do anything. Well, sometimes so You're a little like cold nose English bulldogs and having sex in the same room is they fart a lot and they fart a lot at night That's not gonna kill so there's nothing. There's nothing like being in the heat of passion there and fucking you smell a bulldog fart Yeah, that'll kill that'll kill it for somebody's lying I know it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers her so that's fucked up, man Yeah, but I then sometimes it just depends like if it's like a random day sex, right? So they when they're got they have more energy in them and then they think you're you're playing You know, they think you're rough-housing and playing. Yeah, so they're jumping Yeah, yeah, so they're jump trying to jump up in the bed and growling sometimes and they think that they're We're playing because it's middle of the day, but if it's night time. It's pretty a wrestling again Night night time. They know what's up, you know, I feel weird with the dog in the room It is weird at first, but then you know My boys will snore right through it man. Yeah. Yeah, they'll snore Nobody nothing can sleep in the same room. I'm having sex. I'll tell that right now I'm not sure but I thought I heard Jessica say something about your neighbor's not even liking you guys Why did she make that comment? I caught it was under her breath like you said something about the neighbors and then I heard her go Oh, yeah, they probably don't like it. You're going all 50 shades in there. What do you know? Oh, it's let's just making out lots of making out heavy making Hey, did you hear about the kid tech stuff that's going on right now too? So there's the tech Yeah, so there's what I need because I'm not good with adult tech. There's a huge rise right now in these companies to police all these platforms What do you mean please? So this is this is like not like like YouTube like not having real kid-friendly police is not the right Police is not the right way to regulate. These are private companies that are offering these services up. So we need them, dude You know fucked up. Oh, yeah, that's what that's exactly why it's creepers coming in doing so well It's because it's a YouTube is having a hard time with Policing it themselves are controlling it and so what we're having is these other companies that are coming up as a Second-party that will filter it out. So I think I think how it works You know how big the market the consumer market is on YouTube that is kids. Yeah, that's what this oh, yeah They're this company and underserved and tech is definitely I mean what kid isn't like on tech these days hold on well This is brilliant actually because you have Nickelodeon which exploded when we were kids It was the first network for kids Yeah, remember that and what crazy all the shows are all directed. I know a hundred percent exactly what they're they're building Yeah, yeah YouTube for kids. They've already got a hundred million dollar evaluation dude. I mean, they're it's that's market I can't believe it's taking this long speaking speaking of Nickelodeon last night. I showed my son a classic Do you guys you guys watch Nickelodeon when you were kids? I love it. Yeah, that's slime Do you guys remember the show double out double there? Yeah, come on now. Yeah double there Yeah, do you guys remember the show? You can't do that on television? Yeah. Oh, isn't that good? It was good So there was so did you ever watch that? I can't remember I like vaguely. Yeah, you guys So it's this it's this it's an old like skit show with kids Acting out skits and there's this one guy and one of the common skits is they're at school in the cafeteria And the cooks always putting something gross in their food All right, and then there was there's one guy where he's like a he's like one of the kids will be Like in front of a pole and he's like a military guy and he's gonna say ready aim fire But the kid always tricks him to getting in front of the guns and saying fire and you remember that I mean kind of yeah, like a little bit was it like the edgy rebellious like it was for that time So when I put it on for my kid, I told my son. I'm like, oh, this was so inappropriate Watches like yeah, yeah. No, it's I'm gonna pull it up now. He's watching Rick and Morty I feel like I remember I'm gonna play the intro for you and then We'll see if you get in slime came from I Think this show. Oh, yeah, I just remember they punk they'd punk people Let me see the video Yeah, I totally remember the intro and I just don't remember the sketches. Oh, it's so good So watch out. What year what year was it? They're old. It was 90 or something, right? No, I think that's I think they were reruns when we watched them because I think they were filmed in like the 70s. Oh shit Okay. Yeah, it goes back. So it was old when we were kids. So, mm-hmm. It looks like it times Justin, did you you had something that you wanted to I did so Speaking of reminiscing. So here's a good transition of that transition Hey, yeah, so you're gonna bring up there. Hey. Yeah. So remember Barney. I mean, who doesn't like I love you Hated him. Yeah, we actually had like parties. We talked about you know Anyways, so apparently the actor that played Barney. How old is he now? He's got to be I mean, maybe what if he looks like I feel like he's purple with a black guy and He so here you go. So here's here's the title for you of this, right? Former Barney the dinosaur actor now works as a controversial tantric sex guru Yes So it's like so in the hilarious part is all his clients female. Yeah, how do you become a tantric sex guru? Exactly. How do you go to school for that? Yeah, I don't know But apparently people are opting in put how Google how to become a tantric sex guru Yeah, if there's a certification course, so he's 52 years old. It'd be silly that we didn't take it And if there is no certification course, it'd be silly. We didn't start one. Yes Kiss what's in my title? Salda Stefano charges $350 for a four-hour session how much 350 he's just masturbating them Yeah, I feel like I feel like that's what he's like the old doctors. It's like the old doctors Oh, the worst part is he says giving them hand jobs He was saying that like his his acting skills like as Barney like helped to prep him for this somehow and I'm like That's the creepiest thing Think of the song like love. I love you know like he's all like Yeah Now I don't know anything about tantric sex I thought I was about to say is okay based off of me totally guessing But is it where you're supposed to prolong? The arousal period. Yeah, not orgasm. Yeah. Yeah, you said that very confidently Adam Well, because I know that much. I don't like it's like you get to like the threshold of the orgasm Then you pull back, right? Is it no, that's actually a different how you train yourself to last longer That's an old technique. Yeah, but but what is tantric? This is a course right here. Yeah, this is tantric yoga tantra yoga I guess it's just what Mike Bletzo was talking about that one time. Maybe, you know a lot of times I don't know what he's saying Tantric I feel like if you put that in front of anything you're gonna get more people wanting to do it You're gonna get $350 Like if it's like, you know, hey come join my hit workout, but it's Yeah, oh today. We're doing tantric hit like everybody. Yeah. Oh, wow How do you bring a rover? I want to know how you become a guru though? I think it's just self-proclaimed because you can hold it the longest maybe That would be I don't think so. Maybe he's got like super skills I mean in in our in our world if you're guru and so much that you have to put in because what you're a master at What five thousand hours? Yeah, so guru That's ten thousand ten thousand orgasm at least right now. That would be so doing the math So three six, I don't know so trip. So carry the one check this out I have I know somebody who knows somebody. This is how I protect their identity. Okay, who they means is me Let's just call them madam Anyway, no, so I know somebody who knows somebody who so this this this guy couple married nice people but very Hippie ish if you will That's not full hippie, but ish. Um, no very so so they're way They're way ish. You just be very hippie very hippie, right? So they're all the way on that side So the guy while they were married nice people The guy decided I'm just gonna be celibate now What yeah, like I'm just not gonna Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna have sex anymore. What yeah, so he because he's felt like this was his I don't know What his path or whatever like I'm gonna do this to Something about religious purposes. No, it's not a religious thing something about him I don't know something like he believed in like I'm gonna not have sex anymore So his wife is like, okay, so they just don't have sex. That's it That's the end of story put it in how old are they and bury it? They're like Well now they're probably in there. They late 30s. Oh, they're that young. Yeah So they just decided I get that if you're I mean how many how many relationships kind of already do that already when you start Getting into the late 40s and 50s. I mean not much. No, I'll do ones not healthy ones Well, yeah, I was gonna say you know many clients I trained where they were only having sex once when you get Yeah, the separate bed thing Control that's a real fucking deal and I know people I'm not like 20 something or 30 something you're going like yeah, right, but there's it's more common than you think Well, it's a lot of fucking people. Well, they're healthy people too, you know And so here's the thing about the guy he says after a while He started having wet dreams because your body has to ask them it has to let that's awesome Yes, what that'd have been awesome to have an adult wet dream. So did you ever get wet dreams? Yeah, I never really got me neither. No, I didn't get no Do you know why you know why you didn't get a lot because I Didn't know how Justin We had a long time to figure out the technique you need a girl actually teach me. I told you guys this She taught me how to do it. Let's take it knowing Justin. Well, you wait. You probably heard of yourself Could you specify who the girl was? She was my girlfriend. Okay. It was was it your mom or anything? Oh Adam is way too high. There's not something a silver guy would say You're close to your mom No, but you know knowing Justin move on knowing Justin as well as we do as I do now For sure. He didn't know what the fuck you was doing. Oh, I did it. I didn't had no idea Using glue So Justin will do things Yeah, and so we were in when we were in LA. This is a great story. We're fucking we're in LA and We podcasted hard now that we went hard with a lot of work. We did lived up to the shirt We're about to go on a trip now. That's gonna be like that. But anyway Justin and Drew We're all eating sushi and they're like, oh, let's do a sake bomb. Does anybody anybody else want to do a sake bomb? It was like nah, we're cool And by the way Drew is like, you know, he's like 21 years old right like a kid, right? so they're sitting there they got the sake bombs and They're like to start to drink it well I don't know what came over Justin, but he's just like I'm gonna fucking down this thing like I've been a race It just just it just brought it all back. It's just turned the whole cup upside no reason Just spilled it on his sides. It's like I like if he was in a college He turned a cup upside down like it was a beer bottle Like it's like as if his mouth was all the way over the time It was just weird like he was right next to me. He was drinking at the same time, you know, it's like no You know, like put it all down and so that's his competitiveness And that's why I said when he did it. I'm like that was that was he there's no one That's more. I mean he's the most Justin person I know and if you you don't know what I'm talking about Definitely do my own thing when you get to know Justin, you know what a Justin thing is to do like when he like when he eats food Yeah, like everybody gets gross out when I do farmer blows and yeah, what's a farmer blow? Oh Oh, you do that a lot. I've never seen you do that. Thank God. It's not what I was do that She hates when I do that. I thought it was something else. I was like, please God Everyone gets grossed out when I blow a farmer. Yeah, so weird. I've never been able to do that What did the what he called a farmer, but I didn't even know I had a name first really tried it. Yeah, of course I tried I feel like three times. I'm doing no more. What do you what ends up? It's just yeah face. Yeah I don't care a hanker chief on me. You know, I think I think every old school every guy That's ever seen somebody do that at one point goes fucking I do that and then you try to do it Get it all over your shirt. Fuck. I got that technique down. You're gonna have enough power. Yeah It's all horsepower You know what Justin you bring up an interesting point. Yeah, I wonder if that'll ever come back hankerchiefs Right hankerchief. Yeah chief and pocket watches Well, that is like the steampunk thing. Yeah, but I had it's you know I think I'm into that style because you blow your nose in it and then you save it. Yeah I know that's gross. How does that fold it and then like put it back in your pocket Does it does it back pocket does it dry and then it's good dries and you don't use that side then you wash it Is that how it works? Oh, man What what what do you do chief? What do you mean? What do you do different? Do you know how people use them they blow the nose and then they fold it They put your pocket you use it again or not and then you wash it. You know once you're right You didn't know that well, I did but that's now that I'm talking about it. It's kind of gross Live with your own boogers, you know like in your pocket. Yeah, my grandfather had a handkerchief Yeah, I mean we did a lot of gross things back in the day before we pollute the earth and throw things You know what else is crazy what this guy? What guy like he self-proclaimed the transitions are Wasn't that wasn't that a good one? Just say it's a self-proclaimed time traveler. They say please. I'm gonna make a transition. Oh, this is and transition It sounds it sounds interesting. You know, you know, Yuri's from I'll give you guess where 3,300. Oh wow, so he says he came from the year 3,000 came from the year Break it down. What's this guy got for us? He's like catastrophic future apparently like there's one Mother computer that basically is gonna kill everybody except for him except for him. Yeah Well, he's coming. He's traveling back to warn us that the robots are gonna take over Yeah, do you know how I know a giant time travel will never happen? Why is that because we've never had Refugees from the future, you know I'm saying like nobody's ever done that like nobody's ever come back. I'm like, all right everybody You're fucked up right here stop this experiment, you know, I mean, so that's why I feel like time travel has never Has never been invented. I always love listening to the details of these people that like, you know They have all these claims and stuff like he said he was in the arm He got drafted in the army and they wore like all gold uniforms and Like how what kind of acid or you know, what was he on where he just like constructed all this late Have you ever talked to like a fortune teller or a medium or anyone like that before? No, I've always wanted to Yeah, I did we should do that You ready for some weird shit, I'll tell you some some of the stuff Mine's really fucking weird yeah, so I did this back when I had my personal training studio and I asked a bunch of questions and we were talking and so I'm super Skeptical of this kind of stuff to the point where someone had bought me a gift certificate To talk to this lady because they loved her and When I called the lady up, she's like, oh, when would you like to come in? I said actually can I do this over the phone? What do you guys think I chose over the phone? Yes, can't reading your body. Yeah, because I'm thinking like these are experts at reading Body language and moving in there, but now she can use Google thought you checking her so I'm like This is back when I had my wellness studio. Come on man. There was no information on me at all. Dude, there was a lot of information Let me tell my story When she look up on Google, you know, I mean she might be like a hacker Yeah, you know, she can tell me some facts about real shit, but that's different So anyway did it over the phone so she couldn't read my body language. I was very quiet over the phone I wasn't like, oh my god or this and that But when she was freaking me out, I covered the phone and I'd be like, holy shit So she was telling me some weird stuff So first she tells me about my relationship. Well, you know by the time I married, you know at this time I married and she said stuff like well Caster like we're having a lot of trouble like what like what do you see there? Like what's going on actually no, I didn't say we're having a lot of trouble I said, what do you see in my future for my family? That's what I said. She was well, you and your wife You know, you really care about your kids and that'll help you and I'm like, what do you mean? Like what do you mean by that? That'll help us as well You know, you're probably not gonna be together And I said really and so we went into that little bit which is kind of weird Then she went into a few other things that were very strange, but here's the weird thing She said something to me that resonated but I had no idea why it resonated So while we're up we're talking on the phone She's paused as she's talking and she gets real excited now. She says it's because she gets this information From I don't know where right? So I'm like, oh, that's a nice act. That's whatever. Who knows, right? So start speaking to she does she gets this and she starts like screaming on the phone getting excited and she goes You she goes swear on my life. I have the notes because I know you cocksuckers are gonna fucking think I'm lying I have the notes She says Sal she goes you're Oprah. This is on the man. I'm like what she's like you're just you're you're gonna be just like Oprah I'm like, what do you mean? You know, and it was resonating what she was saying that she's like You're gonna be talking to people. This is what you're gonna do You're gonna influence people this and that and the other and I literally called you Oprah Swear on my life. Wow, and it was very weird, but I had no I had no Yeah, well, I'm like, well, I want to be so that charisma coming through the phone Man, I barely said any words how weird is that and I have the notes and I saved them because I thought it was so strange And now we have now of course here's the thing about these these type of things Dr. Oz I'm dr. Phil dr. Phil Dr. Oz Dr. Phil You know what's thing so here's the thing about this fake doctor Let's say she said I was oh, I'm gonna be like Oprah and then I end up, you know liking poetry and You know wanting to help charities. I'm like, oh my god. That's what she meant. So my point is Sometimes people will say these things and if you if they feel right to you can almost Justify or connect them to whatever, you know I'm saying because it could be a lot of things that I could do that Horoscopes, dude. Yeah, it's like the way you read them like everyone's horoscopes like although mine is accurate Always no not my I don't know their powers Please revisit justice theory. I really like the Google like that. She actually might have some Google skills I feel like it. I mean, I think you have some Google powers. You're not using you know, what do you mean? I mean like you can summon like information really quickly. I mean you should use that I do every day Have you guys you guys have neither one of you've ever been to a psychic? No, no Nothing, but I know people that have and everybody that has of all told me crazy stories I know I'm my sister-in-law. I'm skeptical right. I actually never had somebody I will say I've never had somebody who's gone and seen one. I've been like, oh, that's butch bullshit No one's gonna tell you that wasted a hundred dollars You know, well, no, I would think that I've probably had somebody who actually went with that intention of let's go try this out and been skeptic skeptical about it, you know, but Here's why I'm skeptical. I'm trying to think of somebody who's here's why I'm skeptical because First of all, we've never seen a news headline that said psychic wins the lottery never every time I've met a psychic They're always like, what's your name? Tell me about yourself like why? You know, and maybe it's not maybe it doesn't work that way, right? Maybe you can't summon it that way, right, right? But I do feel like the way the way now you have software though Yeah, I mean like that's that's the direction my mind goes these days just because like now if it's accurate It's like you could get so much information from Facebook alone on somebody to kind of piece it all together and like See who they're interacting with and like you could do that like fairly quickly Well, if I don't know how I don't know that there's I'm sure there's a difference between all of them I like a fortune teller versus a medium like I think a medium believes that they are Communicating to the other side. They're communicating to another dimension And whether be your future self or relative to you or like that like that's their their way Is it isn't because I know you guys are all you know team Jesus and stuff Isn't that supposed to be bad aren't you supposed to not yeah to people like that using the devil's powers I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be ideal be being tempted be going somewhere like that where you could be tempted So you want to go to a fortune teller, but you massive pussies will not do a Ouija board with me Why is that different Doesn't work, you know, like I've been When we were kids bro, I'll buy it. I'll do it. What movie was that with a Ouija board? What bring that kind of energy in here? Yeah, what energy wrong with you? What energy bring a crystal you believe in energy Uh-huh. It's a fucking energy game you buy. It's I think it has bro makes it. Why you stuck on it, dude The same bill would be giving kids gummy bears or fucking are giving Ouija boards out Hasbro doesn't sell gummy bears. Yeah, they do. No Hasbro's a toy company. Yeah, Hasbro does gummy bears, too Hasbro that sounds like that sounds like a dude that let's wait from the past Hasbro Fuck you guys. No, but I want to bring a Ouija board because I want to I think You're sorcery, there's one group of people that have never let us wrong, okay? Hmm, so I'd like to ask the audience if you think And film it no way just DM Adam. Yeah, so he knows I'll bring my Got you know what by the way, I made the mistake I think on the one of the last podcast to tell people that I answer all my DMs and then I got I got fucked for that one for sure Why'd you lie? Now I have a hard time so if I if I said that you just and then now you Reached out to me you and a bunch of other people so it's been taking me a while to get all the way There's a little bit of a buzz going on right now. I feel like there's a lot more activity It seems like around the show. Yeah, it seems like it I mean we went to we just went to LA and went crazy and now we're about to go to Tampa Which by the way, can we just tell the audience how fucked up our travels? Oh, it's all over the place. We're gonna leave at like 945 p.m. Yeah from Sam and arrive there at 6 a.m. Yes, and then hop on another plane from Miami to Tampa This is this is not this is a terrible idea. It's gonna be but whatever Challenging but we podcast. Yeah, it's a thing. You know, here's a deal like we podcast harder than your podcast you fans Yeah, we could podcast harder than your podcast. That's the new. Yeah, the new tag. How hard is your podcast? You know what I mean? I like that speaking of hard You know chaga might be a libido Booster, what did you hear that? Well? No, I've been taking the the the four-signatic chaga consistently and chaga boners and yeah, I Don't know, you know, I didn't know if that's something that it does You know, here's the thing about the the sub the four-signatic supplements There's a lot of supplements that I've tried all okay, by the way very few will you notice Actual effects from the four-signatic ones I do when I take them I can tell something's happening now I do cycle them because I do believe that Your body does develop a tolerance to anything that has an effect on you like anything you take that you feel You know theoretically your body will try to adapt to it by reducing the effect So I I cycle so I was doing the lion's mane, right? That's what I was doing a lot of which was it's just a great Neutropic I combine lion's mane Caffeine and if I really want to go crazy throw some ketones and some CBD in there and then I'm brilliant Or just lines by itself. That's the formula. That's the selling point right there So that's what I was doing for a little while now I'm on to chaga and I love the immediate relaxing effects of chaga. It's not sleepy though It's kind of like this calm feeling so I'm not so irritated at them all the time So I have it and I feel oh, you gotta get me on that one, but now I've been taking chaga now consistently for I feel like I've been pretty calm lately I'm teasing you we haven't we haven't chill we actually haven't had a major You know disagreement remember we used to have them out on the show all the time Oh, no, we had a few episodes way back way back in the days. No way. Yes, it was like a handful. Yeah, well Yeah, there's you're right. Okay. There's probably about a anyway chaga good stuff for boners and you're right We you know, but we did there was a couple episodes where We were a little bit back and forth. Yeah, and I and then the form got all Yeah, everybody gets all really worried gang wars right away bloods and crypts all set separate It's like whoa dude chill out We should do that We should come up with a topic that we actually really disagree on and then debate it just on the pod Well, a lot of times too that there's shoes when when I'm yeah, but that's a stupid debate You know me see it to you. Maybe not to Adam. Well, I mean, it's his expertise. I don't care Oh, I wouldn't say I'm an expert at all. I think compared to me. There we go. Taylor compared to me You're a genius with shoes. I don't know what I'm wearing right now I think they're funny how there's certain things though that people are really passionate about and then other people just don't give two Shits about and there are certain things in your life that you're extremely passionate others don't I find that really fascinating How we're so unique and different like that. Well, yeah Like I got excited about my old encyclopedia set that you guys made fun of it looks so cool up there, right? I was it can I tell you that's why people don't think I'm confrontational because I like the topics that we're arguing I don't care. I'm still waiting You still waiting on one that I care about I don't care about fitness But we don't argue about that it's some other weird thing Well, why don't you say something that you think is controversial and then I know it's a problem I don't think you have too. You don't have too many things that you know what it is The debate you know what it is is that we're really convincing and so Justin's just waiting to see who he sides with Yeah, I wait to form an opinion for the last part. Yeah, after we're done. He's always I think it's a pretty And I'll take sides. It's a pretty size after the argument It's pretty even split. I think well winning Justin over You guys are always like working on this Notice I go in the line like no, he's gonna go in my line, dude You know you guys are like betting back and forth on like what I'm gonna do I started fucking manipulate me started that because I know how you are You always because you got in line with Adams. I'm like, oh, you're just gonna fall out of it It's my psychology so hard Like I don't want to fucking have preferential shit over here I'm my own man. It all it all started when you referred to Sal as the best closer. I knew it That was I started three years ago I'm wondering what would sound pigeon hold you into answering that and I thought you motherfucker You know what happened like if I'd have gone the other direction Sal It like he would have just been jabbing at me like forever It's you know, I knew Adam could take it and you would have had to have you would had to live with yourself for being dishonest Person You're integrity style. I love how you spin everything. You're so good at it. You know I can't lie That's right. I'm like Adam will never like live that down Abraham Lincoln cuz I he hired you right Justin So you were like his dude. Yeah, well, that's a thing. I came in with Adam So there's already this like you heard you say like I was hard. I was like Oh Justin, can we please release at least to our private forum the The forbidden episode of the the fort with all the guys the sales Yeah, that's how you put us on the spot. Yeah I haven't tried to put you guys on the spot because I think the four at least the former way I personally enjoyed it I thought it was a great conversation It's this conversation right now is reminding me of that and so I'm like man our forum That was it was yeah, it was a little crazier It was two old friends so here I'll tell you I'll break it down for everybody so they know that way when you don't listen to it You'll be even more angry Two guys that used to so I I both of them worked for me and then one of them worked with Adam And then the other one became good friends with Adam. So me and Adam are really good friends with these two guys They also happen to be two of the best Absolute best salespeople and humans and humans great people but also great sales guys Super charismatic, but also off the wall and when when we all get together none of it We didn't all four hang out together ever yeah Actually, that's the first time we were ever all together and in if you guys like listening right now You hear me and Adam go off sometimes and we don't want to shut up now throw two more Versions of those people. Oh, yeah in the room and you have me Adam Larry and Jason who are good friends and it just went off and then we started telling stories and it got super inappropriate Sorry get fun super inappropriate super terrible Well, the ones I think why so we have a lot of four members that have listened to the old episodes where we used to tell a Lot of Jim stories. Mm-hmm. We haven't told yeah We from shit I mean I want to I want to say the first hundred something episodes It seemed like every week we are doing Jim stories where we shared old stories that people love We haven't done something like that. Well, this episode was that episode was like that It was just you know want all of our experiences working together and some shit that I forgot some of the stuff man Larry Larry and Jay both brought up some things that I had oh man. I've forgotten all about that Oh boy. It got really crazy. But anyway, good friends of ours Excellent sales people totally different by the way these two guys are totally different in their sales approach. Yeah, but they're both very effective So we had a little pissing contest between the four of us. Who's the best? You know communicator or whatever. It's pretty funny. So but I did I did convince everybody to say Jason So I think I won that Just kidding bring on the bird Or we got thrive on boxing got a box here. Oh Let's see what you got here. So last week we had a keto box. That box looks like Doug Yes, the other ones This this is smaller one. We just have three items only in it Oh, so I ordered off the keto menu at thrive market Mm-hmm, and I kind of went the dessert sweet angle. Oh shit Open up the box. Is it gonna melt? Will it melt? Yeah, it could melt if you left it out in the car. Okay, throw that over here, Doug Yeah, so the first thing is the original fat fudge. Oh Grass-fed butter to help you paint the coffee in it and you can either take it, you know straight That's why I would I could put it in your coffee producing that fat. Just it was a rapper. That would be his nickname Next thing we have here Toilets Soiled dreams What was the name of your bed your real blood shit promise Sorry, okay We're off the chain, sorry. Yeah, no worries. We've got mint cream coconut butter cups from eating evolved Is there dairy in those dogs? I want to try them. Let's see here. Let's see if I can get the ingredients here There is no dairy. Oh Man, yeah, it's all coconut and then the final thing we have here is is Coco nut protein bars by Exo so you know what that means if they're from Exo There are they on it? No, no, that's the bugs and kisses. No, they contain cricket. Oh These are cricket bars. That's the okay. That's what that means. You guys try that one. I'll take the bug bars I like I like cricket protein. Yeah, so that's that's all over the chips You know what? You know, it's brilliant. You know, it's brilliant about the cricket products What like they'll never get a return because you find an insect in them, you know, yeah Yeah, like you find there's a cricket in my chin. They'll be like no added protein. That's what it is Dad joke with the day When we're driving to lunch, what did he say? Oh no, so it's rent a car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said I said don't rent a car from there It's painful because you know if my kids would love that joke Yeah, all right, so now bring on the the burr, please Brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout First question is from Sydney Elise double zero How do you know whether a full body versus body part split is right for you? You have to try them out. Obviously, no, that's that's the answer. However, I would if you are eighty five percent If you're lean on the fact that yeah, total body's probably gonna do you better. Yeah I this is just in general estimation and you know, it's funny. I read a few articles on this one I was first putting out the maps program because I wanted to see how many people have talked about Comparing the two programs at least in modern coaches and I can't remember where the article was But I found an article and there were I think eight Strength and conditioning coaches very well known ones and every single one of them agreed that the vast majority of people will build The most muscle strength and get the best performance out of a full body routine in my estimation Probably eight or nine out of every ten people that I've ever trained Do better on a full body program and that's and those are the people who are more Who are seriously interested in building muscle if I include all my average clients. It's more like 95% Where full body works best so for most people it's just more effective and one of the main reasons why is that a body part split simply doesn't send a muscle building signal frequently enough to the to the muscle so if I hit, you know chest on one day and back on another day and shoulders on another day, it's gonna take me seven days before I hit that same body part again and resistors training is Quite there is a general effect But there is it obviously a very localized effect in the words if I just train my biceps My biceps will grow and I won't get any growth in my calves So you have to hit the body parts more frequently for most people than once every seven well I also feel it's split. It's it's way easier to over intensify your workout sessions to where it leads you like where you're just Repairing damage, you know the rest of the days in between and it goes back to that old way of thinking that like getting really super sore Is a good thing as opposed to then, you know adapting versus, you know repair You know damage so, you know total body Workouts it just it just if you know that tomorrow I have to do another one You know, you're you're already have that reserve to you know overextend yourself overexert yourself So why does it have to be like an either or though, you know, like I don't point it doesn't yeah I don't feel like it just needs to be an either or I think that Understanding the the benefits of the full body the major benefits You're getting is what Sal saying is the frequency that you're gonna get so But maybe you really like the body part split because it works with your schedule And you enjoy that and it's easier for you just to focus on a couple body parts at a time I mean you could do like a push pull type of split where you're still gonna hit every muscle group two to three times in a week And that could be extremely someone can have a lot of success because that's the real issue, right? It's not that it's full body, right? It's that you're hitting the muscles More frequently than once a week which body parts splits are typically each body part once a week So could you do a split that takes advantage of more frequency? Absolutely? In fact, if we were to program a split, that's what it would do We would make sure we took care of Frequency because frequency is extremely important because we know that when you lift weights Yeah, if I hit my chest, we know that the muscle protein synthesis rates goes up right afterwards and spikes at like 48 to 72 hours But then it drops very quickly So if I'm if you know if it's three days after I hit my chest But I still have four days more until I hit my chest that muscle building signal now is dropping and not only does it drop It drops quickly and then it goes down below baseline because your body is always adapting It's either trying to so muscles are building or they're shrinking They don't really maintain if you want it happens on a microscopic level So sometimes it builds sometimes it shrinks and so you end up staying around the same But that's that's kind of how it works So if you hit your body parts once a week the odds are it's just not it's just not frequent enough now The big question is this because I guarantee this people listening right now who are like well, then why do Bodybuilders work out like why why is the body part split the most common training system or or program then For bodybuilders like what is it about the split and bodybuilding then if it's not the best for building muscle Well the people that represent bodybuilding that we hear from are typically the better bodybuilder So we don't hear from people who train like a bodybuilder, but never step on stage and don't really look that good Right, I would venture to argue that most those bodybuilders have pretty damn good genetics So they could almost do whatever they want and they're gonna still build I wouldn't be surprised if their muscle building signal Spiked and stayed elevated for two or three times longer than average I met a lot of pros I met I met a lot of pros and got a chance to kind of see like how some of these guys train and stuff and there There's a lot of them that use mainly gear to Change, you know their size up or down They would just add certain anabolic to get bigger. It wasn't done in their program The routine stays the same like all the time and it's crazy. It's just and it's all based off intensity Maybe during prep time they pick it up and they go harder or what about that or just add sets or reps but there's no real rhyme or reason and Their bodies are their bodies aren't really changing much whatsoever there. I think there's a lot of room for For body part splits to evolve even in the the bodybuilding community I think it's well the old school even the ones that and the ones that don't that see great results Really understand programming. They got the bodybuilders that I met that were pros that you could you would see that I could see their body change show after show because you could just tell that they have this problem You know other guys that kind of looked the same all the time every show that their their physiques weren't progressing sequence And I knew they were taking more and more drugs So technically if they're taking more drugs and there's the one variable they changed right that was added That was it was just it was that that or more intensity and more cardio I mean those were the variables that they manipulated and nobody really dives into the programming So I'm just and of course this is a total over generalization that Sal and I are both saying but I would venture to say that a lot of those guys Would even benefit it from to the interesting frequency both and what would you think about too? If you've always done split to change it up and just do you know a total body Focus or vice versa, right? You always did total body workouts, you know doing a split to kind of give you a different stimulus It's just it's just a frequency thing because I I did experiment not too long ago with hitting a body part once a week And sure enough you just you know, I like the pump. I got like the volume But I did that's you know, that's the big thing that everyone hangs on to it's the pump Yeah, that especially in the bodybuilding community It's all about the pump like everybody is chasing the pump like you keep focusing on that one body part that you could just Get the best pumps on a split. That's what they yeah, that's what they talk about But I mean that's just that's just one one factor in building muscle It's not the only factor and and when you're so adapted to getting pumped all the time You see I would fit here to say that the benefits that you got from it Or a lot different than when you got the first pump a year ago, you know If and there's techniques you can use to get a better pump Anyway, you don't have to do a shit ton of volume to you know Squeeze blood into a muscle and get it get a better pump I remember when I first switched over to because I didn't go from a straight split to full body I went from a typical bro split one body part a day to a Split where I paired up certain body parts and hit each body part twice a week then from there I went to full body and each time I did that because I remember when I first switched over it was like Let's see. It was it was years ago I was getting ready to go to Italy to visit family and I wanted to get really fit because my whole family there knows I'm in fitness So I want to look really lean So I started watching my nutrition and I said and I wanted to experiment with training more frequently By the way, old-time bodybuilders always train more frequently even as late as the 70s, you know in 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger Hit a split, but he hit his body parts three times a week So if you look at his old routines, it was three times a week It was a double split routine is what he did where he had two body parts in the morning and two at night Or something like that a one at night and he still did a lot of frequency So it's it's relatively recent where we did this whole one body part of thing a day type of thing But I I switched over to this and I'll never forget. I got more muscular and leaner Than I'd ever gotten before now one thing that I recognized when I switched was I that's when I learned about going to failure That's when I learned that I needed to maybe not go to failure as often because I couldn't because I was hitting it so frequently and that's eventually later on what led Me to understanding that not going to failure More often than not would benefit me But I and then I remember switching to the full body and man when I switched to full body routine It was that week. I got stronger like that week. I literally went to three workouts I'm lifting and boom all of a sudden all of a sudden stronger all of a sudden Feeling better and if you've been working out and lifting weights for a long time and you feel so you know Yeah, it's a big deal. I know I know within I could do a workout and I'll know oh wow That's there's something to that right away And that's how it was for for full body for me and I never looked back since and everybody I've ever recommended do this That I know personally like my cousin Gabriel my cousin Alex. I've had my cousin Giuseppe do it my brother You know my cousin Gabriel is a good example good genetics Builds decent amount of the reality is these people just aren't doing enough frequency if they were if they would you Dain six pounds like four we were running a split where you're hitting every muscle three times a week then you're but I in my Experience most people that set themselves They set a plan out to do that but then they end up having a day off or Something happens to where they can't hit every single week like that and they're the volume drops down So once that if you could just get the frequency up I think that running a split could be just as beneficial to so I don't think it's either or Next question is from Tristan a branch Do you guys have any advice for someone who wants to start their career as a trainer with the ultimate goal of opening a gym? There's only one business that has a fail rate That's worse than opening a restaurant, and that's opening a gym. Is that true? I don't know Boy, I'll tell you what I'll tell you what how feels like it is That's a new feeling and go with it. Yeah, it's the new spiritual side of me I tell you the fortune teller Yeah, yeah, my my experience with this is I've owned a gym. I've ran gyms. I know what the numbers look like I know the business pretty well I would consider myself a veteran of the gym business and let me tell you When a large company first of all like 24 fitness 24 fitness with all of their money and marketing and resources 25 million year would give themselves Two years before a gym would start to break even okay That's a club with fucking marketing power and brand name behind it In fact 24 fitness was not fond of doing a Ground-up gym. They didn't like doing building gyms from scratch They what their strategy was which was an effective one was to take over a gym that already had a base because it's so hard To make sure I'm up all that business. It's hard both ways, but it's extremely hard when you start from scratch All right, you know what I mean open a gym Profitability wise like do the math like you open up a 25,000 square foot facility You're gonna pay. I don't know what part of the country you'll be in but anywhere between how many trainers Do you guys know personally? I mean I I can probably count close. I want to say close like 10 maybe Oh shit. I'm way of like 50. Oh, yeah Jim yeah that went to go do their own gym and oh Yeah, yeah over 10. I don't yeah I'm probably around 10, but you know more because you yeah, exactly Yeah, man, there's there's a there's a lot and I how many of them have been I think I can count on one hand The ones that are successful Now when you say successful, do you mean doors still open or profitable or just making it happen? Yes, I and I don't know any that are making it really happen I mean the ones that I know that are successful. They're doing what they love They pay their bills and they by no means like yeah, they're not balling out of control Yeah, none of them are living in you know multi-million dollar how no one's killing it, right? That's you don't I don't see I don't know anybody personally and they're always there right always there Yeah, so I think go anywhere I know a lot failed but here would I but the ones that do we crush this person's dream No, no, yeah, I know I know I think we just it's more about being more honest with yourself Because some people if you are this person, I'm not this person I'm not that like I have bigger ambitions for myself, right? But some people would rather be like that way have your own gym only really responsible for yourself for a couple trainers in the gym all day Yeah, be the gym all day the old bar owner, right? Exactly. It's like that like it and if it's you're not driven by money very much Or you don't have certain Financial goals where you want to be and it's and you're realistic with that I think it's a fucking awesome thing to potentially have and do but I know I made a promise to myself that We would never open up or I would never open up a gym like the one we have here Until I had built a business that doesn't need to Survive off of those doors being open, right? So we don't even use this facility for any sort of revenue We don't make any revenue off of it whatsoever And that's how I wanted it when I think all of you are the same way to would cost us more money to even try Think right maybe even like go in the franchise route would be a better strategy if you were to accumulate You know enough capital yourself and then invest in something you thought was gonna take off versus starting your own from scratch I looked into it and the success rate with franchises is always higher. It just is because it's a And I know more guys that have been successful doing this one I know some guys that did the what was the automated gyms. I almost did that Like that, but it's not that one. Yeah, so one of the you know did a couple of those We'll be time fitness. Yeah, a lot of those are popular. Yeah, anytime fitness Orange theories, of course 15 of those fuckers man. That's I'm saying like you if you you know with the franchise they give you a plan They have it's all systems are set up. It's organized and then you have the brand You know name kind of pushing people in but then you're stuck with you Don't you don't have a flexibility is like you want you can't pay, you know, you have to pay a fee Well, if you think about it's the same, you know It's like owning your own business and starting from scratch You have even less and then and then and the reality is like if you you have to get to gym two three and four before you start because each one a small box gym is is not going to make you more than about 70 grand to 150 grand a year tops, right? So and if you have more that's if you're good, right? That's if you're really good That's you're very successful if you're hitting those numbers, right? Then so it's going to take gyms two and three before you start getting into the quarter to a half a million dollars and The success rate from somebody taking one to two is well. Here's the way I look at a fucking a mother fuckers Here's the way I look at it the the cost that you the money you have to invest To get one open is substantial. That's number one now I know CrossFit's back in the day You could open one up for like 20 grand in a warehouse, but those days are over It's a lot more difficult nowadays So even if you open a box like a CrossFit box, you're probably gonna spend close to six figures Just getting it open or more right a hundred or or more $1,000 just to get the doors open now You want to try a big box gym you want to try and do a 20,000 square foot or 25,000 square foot gym on your own You're gonna spend a million dollars Getting it open getting equipment Running it the money to pay yourself and your staff while you're running it and then the cost The way the gym industry works. It's such a low-cost high-volume Business where you've got 35,000 square foot facilities that are equipped to the gills Yeah, so I mean shower shower steam room basketball court that are charging 20 bucks a month Right, you know I'm saying it's cheaper and you got to compete with that And that means you got to get thousands and thousands and thousands of members to pay you 20 bucks a month so that you can meet your now Here's where I see it smart like okay, so we're like we just went down and we just visited with Bradley Martin like this guy has got a you know two million following on on Instagram I'm sure at least a few hundred thousand of those are from LA So this guy opens a gym in LA and it's a badass gym and he probably spends probably a mil probably plus just building it all out and You know, he's gonna have enough traffic from his Instagram to at least pay the bills But I guarantee you we went down there and I saw the traffic in there that he's not even murdering out of there I mean there's I know what a full gym looks like and I can tell if it's how much it's cranking out just by the traffic at Primetime hours it's a tough situation during prime hours. You would be able to tell it's a tough situation because on the one hand Like if you're really if you're first of all if you're a trainer and you want to open a gym You're probably really serious about working out right so you want to have a gym that really is Caters like fitness people, but here's the problem with fitness people. They're the worst customers because Fitness people really don't care about much But whether or not you have equipment and they're gonna use the hell out of your gym three seas and the gym industry's already identified this They know this they stay cost convenience and cleanliness. Yeah, and they've seen this They've seen that fitness people aren't money makers. So fuck them Well, we want is the people who are gonna pay us and not show up type of deal. It's a tough It's a tough business my advice to you is if you're in if you're being a becoming a trainer And you want to stay in the fitness industry either become aren't evolving to the virtual world Virtual or become a good private trainer, which is a little which is easier than opening a gym and being successful but not easy still hard or Go work for a large fitness corporate organization and move your way up the ladder there and you can do pretty well Oh, I think that's the the the most sound Advices to really go through the process if you have never done it before and like you do Want to own a gym or like that's like you have to start from from somebody That's a well or oiled machine that can actually model like the systems for you Otherwise, you have no idea what the timing is with the how to deal with volume that comes in all of a sudden and Staffing imagine someone opening a gym who'd never Managed a successful gym for at least a few years. Well, that's a nightmare. Yeah It is it's a monster. Who was it? Oh, it's Calipa. We're talking. He has like 30 something right 30 something Jim Right to make a couple mill. It's like I mean, I think you had 35 or something like that a lot of management Yeah, and some overseas. Yeah, that's so much work To make that there's you can make that a lot of different ways in the fitness industry I mean a lot easier than that. We're podcasting now, you know, there's new forms There's new mediums out there that you could actually explore and actually reach You know more people more volume of people get your message out and capture that and monetize it So I think there's just a lot more opportunities We didn't have before going through that process where you know, the ultimate goal was the gym I always forever. I always try and ask myself, you know, 10 years from now Do I believe to a lot of people will they still be working out in gyms? Or will it be cool to go outside more or we have some cool virtual reality inside your house? That's so badass like, you know, home gyms I feel are gonna get even more elaborate, right? Especially when I'll tell you when you want to know when that'll explode when Self-driving cars become a big thing Because everybody has a garage and you don't need to park your car in a garage. What are you gonna do with it? Convert it to a gym. That's a gym, man, right? Yeah, that's a perfect place to put Yeah, I saw I don't know So that's I just if I'm a trainer coming up in the business right now I'm thinking a lot of things like that besides just there is a side to me That's like if I was if I didn't have kids and I was the owning the bar. It's the owning bar thing That's the perfect analogy in the gym. I totally if you want to just do it for that reason go for it Right because you're here and all of us talk all this shit right now But then don't be surprised if you see us in three to five years have a gym Yeah, right and it's just but it's all for fun You know, it would not be we would not go into it like make money to make money It would be going into it because like the bar I want to see our friends and work out and it'd be cool place all for mind-blowing people to come by like That's why we would do it Next question is from Michael Salzel. What is your opinion on getting girls as a motivation to work out and build a nice physique? Strinsic motivation be a good as good as intrinsic motivation So, you know, it's this it's a good question because I know a lot of guys girls for the girls start working out for this particular reason Is it it's gonna motivate you motivate you to exercise it will is that the right kind of motivation or long lasting motivation? No I mean, what do you do once you get the girls then, you know, keep working out to keep them? Why are you so why is this such a big deal to you? What do you feel? You know, maybe you don't feel good about yourself How about, you know, exercising not worrying about getting girls feeling the confidence you get I think the girls is just a byproduct I think it always comes back down to because I'm sure I when I was this when I was 17 19 years old I probably thought that that was my motivation, but it was really more about myself. It was really my own Yeah, because I mean, I remember being that's what girls are that's what attracts the before I ever worked out You know, I was only it was sophomore junior year I dated very pretty girls in school like it would I didn't have any and I was not I've crooked front teeth Like so I learned early on that that wasn't like the answer So I really think most of what drove me was just my own insecurities of feeling inadequate next to other men You know, I was a skinny I was a skinny boy in comparison now That was what I felt being a you know late teen early 20s was looking at other men that were 18 19 20 And I just was very small friend I was small skinny and I didn't feel so I think sure we all and the macho thing would be talking about getting girls But I think in reality, I was probably really comparing myself to other men And that's really what drove the insecurity to to live unless you're like like really unhealthy There's more effective ways of attracting girls attention. I think then then working out except for the fact that You got yeah, no, it doesn't hurt and working out does one thing and this is the reason why I think sometimes you know It's funny though and they get girls is cuz it builds your confidence. I was just gonna say that I was just gonna say that cuz you'd be surprised like half of it is is not just a physique It's that when everyone gets yeah when you get super ripped like that you want you walk with your chest up Your posture is good learn to do all those high levels good Yeah, that's stuff for me. They pick up on that the guy at the bar Who's super jacked with the tight t-shirt, but it's kind of weird and not does not charismatic Doesn't do very well with the girls just doesn't in fact I've heard girls make fun of that guy many many many times So it's the confidence that really does it and working out will do that it can do that, right? It can also do the opposite though make you give you this big Inflated ego make you act like an asshole or feel like an asshole Yeah, but here's the thing with when it comes to your motivation for working out at the end of the day If it's extrinsic, you're always gonna be You're always gonna be focused on something outside outside of you. I think at some point that can end I think you can be extreme I think you can if you are looking at like um like a like aesthetic, right? Look at a fear of physique like And if you looked at it like a piece of like art like you're trying to build or sculpt something There is definitely a part of me that that felt this that I never felt it before until I competed Which I and I never had this I never looked in the mirror went like oh, I'm not my chest isn't there It wasn't until I make that voice I feel like that's what some boy would do if he's like all sad about not having a chest, right? So it would sound something that You know, so I don't know well then again, maybe not maybe I definitely went through my my time of being insecure about my calves I went through that for a while. Didn't you say you were looking at the caffeine plants? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so I actually talked to somebody about that. Yeah, I did it was yeah $3,500 per calf. No total back there. Oh, yeah, that was like total back then But it was like really new then too so I was a little scared man. I was scared to good thing Yeah, I'm so glad you didn't do that dude. I wouldn't be able to hang out They'd probably be like shifted a little bit, you know I just shows you how insecure I was about sure about you know, but I think like When I competed I'm 30 years old at this time right when I'm competing So I have a total different outlook on my physique and I think I had a very healthy relationship with it too Like when I was building I was not I was when I would look at my physique in the mirror I would really be like this is me applying all the science that I understand and know from all these years That I never have truly done to this level and I could visually see it This is fucking cool and I got off on that I thought that was and and I had a very very objective like way of looking at it where I when I looked at my physique it wasn't Feeling inadequate or insecure. It was like oh shit. Wow when I actually increased my volume did this did that I could actually see my shoulders now are popping out more, right? So I think I don't think there's anything a student of it, you know Yeah, right. So I think they're I think that was healthy. I didn't I don't feel like that. I wasn't attached to that I could know just just the way that I don't know look I don't know who this person is who's asking the question I'm just saying that that's an example of where it could be okay and healthy. I could see right So work I tell you what it could be totally douchey. First of all working out working out Working out is good for you. You move better. You're stronger and helps boost your confidence So do it because of those things if it's about getting girls work on your social skills That will yield you way better results If go learn how to talk to girls go learn how to you know improve your charisma get rid of your fear, you know There's an art to it or whatever it's all deprecating It's my moves. I thought you said self-deprecating Definitely not not that that doesn't work. No, that's a good one actually repels the repellent Next question is from Ringo the flamingo You are hungry. This is a good. That's a great name If you are hungry and have no other options except processed crappy food What's better not eating any food at all or eating processed crappy food not eating at all easy So easy, you know, it's funny that shit in the garbage You know why that's a good question though It is a good question because I would have asked that question five years ago exactly five years ago I would have a and that what I fuck man. So I totally understand it is a good I need proteins snicker bar has proteins There would be there would be days where I was on my you know air quote unquote diet right now and I'm driving home And I'm under my protein intake for the day and I'm like I'm so tired, but I need to go home and just go to bed I'm like fuck it's better. I drive through McDonald's and get McDonald's into not eat at all Like my thought process was I needed to make sure I hit my my macro targets every day And that was more important than couldn't then this consuming this shitty food that I don't even so I Understand this question 100% and so yeah, no you I wish I understood it with the way I understand it now You would be way better off just not eating and then that even goes for somebody who is trying to build muscle Like if you're trying to build muscle Still doesn't matter like still the you it would be more beneficial for you to pass on that But obviously if you started to string Lots of days bunch of days together. Well, that's when calories really start to count Right, you know like oh, I haven't eaten in 10 days. We're talking about a one-off Yeah, should I eat this crappy processed food or not? It's like, okay, you're starving. You should eat it But no for the most part avoid it. This is funny because we'll go on these Long these you know four-day trips or three-day trips or we're podcasting and we're doing a lot of traveling I mean when we were in LA Adam and I were doing two or three podcasts a day But in between the podcast we were stuck in LA traffic for between one to two and a half hours so it took us two and a half hours at one point to get from one podcast to another and This entire time we don't eat Because what are your options like we're on the road. We're about you know, our options are terrible Right, so unless we stop at a grocery store and really make an effort But we didn't necessarily have the time to do that We just and it's funny because we'll bring Taylor with us or drew with us and they're always like man So mad you guys never fucking eat man. I'm so hungry Yeah, and it's you know, it's because if unless we're gonna eat something good It's really not worth the the effort to get those kind of foods because then you're just gonna feel terrible It's not gonna affect your body in a positive way and we've talked about numerous times on this podcast the benefits of Intermittent fasting and so these are great opportunities to do that and I wish I knew this When I was training people years ago because when I would have clients one of the one of the challenges clients would have would be You know, hey when I'm in meetings in day all day What do I eat or what do I eat when I'm traveling and then I would you try to give them like a plan of like a carry these in Your purse or you know like exactly some kind of like shitty snack that we're trying to substitute it with I'd like take beef jerky and that's with you and then eat that and they're like well I'm at a meeting to have food. I'm gonna eat beef jerky and nuts. Yeah now. I tell them doesn't make sense Yeah, now I tell them that's a great day to fast like if you're not gonna be home till four Do that day where you don't eat until four fast until then then eat something that's good for you And it's gonna benefit you way more In you know fasting Adam talked about building muscle and fasting and I know people like fasting is the opposite of what you should do To build muscle not necessarily I don't think you should fast regularly right you're trying to build That's what I meant by that right you that's where I was saying like if you did this on a regular basis Obviously it would not be it would not be a good idea if it's not pro muscle by you know fasting every other day That would not be a smart move but intermittently I 100% you're better. Oh, I think it makes you more to your body more sensitive to Proteins and carbohydrates and fats. I think it primes your body for you know Better health and faster results. It increases insulin sensitivity, which is also important for building muscle You know if you have you know poor response to insulin You're not gonna shuttle glycogen and amino acids into muscle like you normally would so I even recommend to people trying to mass Build or whatever that you know once a week or maybe even once every other week They do a kind of a longer fast where their first meal is until 3 p.m. Or 4 p.m. Or sometimes longer depending on the individual and so far people have been trying it And they've been coming back to me and being like I'm building more lean body mass I didn't get as fat doing it this way when I'm bulking I feel better. 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