 You did a good job of that and it's been a no-deal, I know, and I guess it's the back of the sweet guy, and I don't really mind it. They don't give, they don't get too many danger signs printed on these cigarettes. You don't smoke too many of them. I am smoking too many of them, Mr. President. Well, I'm doing it. I admit it. I can understand it. I can tell you that. I need some of myself. Can you tell me someday how you quit, will you? Because I want to, but I can see there's a guts to it. Well, you can't do it when going through what you are. I don't want you to think about it now, but... Look at the bad press on cigarettes. I'm hurting your other legislation. I don't know. I don't know. They're getting good press on everything. We named your boys yesterday. Yes, sir. Now, you checked, I wonder, did you check tidings and booster on this? Fred mentioned it. I did, and I mentioned it to barefoot, and I'm not sure that I... But he did it. I did check, Bob, you know, wisely, that was fine. That's good. Well, I wasn't sure whether they did it or not. I would just tell them. Tell them. I didn't know who you thought he lived in the district. You find he's there, but it's Chief Justice's son. Oh, there's no problem with that. So that's all right. Well, I guess that... Now, these civil rights groups, are they reasonably happy with you? Oh, yeah. They're all reasonably happy. What are they going to do when they get through March? What's going to be the next one? Well, I don't know, Mr. President. I think King would like to take a little rest. He's got some sore feet. I can't say that some of these sick kids are going to continue to, you know, raise a little bit of hell. I think they will. But the more we can isolate it off into the small group way out there, the better off we are. And I think with the legislation and with Easter and one thing or another, we can do pretty well. But I don't want to give you the feeling and impression that because we get this voting bill quickly and because they've had their march, you know, turn our attention to something else and forget about civil rights, because they'll continue to raise some hell. And we'll just try to keep it under control. I want to get the military out of there just quick because we damn well can. Today, they write as soon as this dispersal goes, they'll haul into Montgomery and into the Armory, get it back to the police taking over there in Montgomery. You're pretty reasonably sure we can defend this. Defend this bill from the poll tax boys and from the 18-year-olds and so forth. Yes, Mr. President. I think we're in good shape. Dirk is staying very solid with us. We're going to have over 80 votes in the Senate for that bill. I don't think it'd be bad if they put you in a corner anyway to say to them that they're drafting it with the senators and draft it with the president and raise the question with you about the poll tax and 18-year-old. I have voted against that story poll tax a dozen times. Yes, I know that. On the ground that they've always told me that you couldn't do it that way. And I got the constitutional amendment and got it through. But I think it wouldn't be bad to just let it show that you'd be advised. You just didn't believe it. You've already crossed that bridge. You've studied it. You've evaluated it. You just didn't believe that you could do it that way. Her total legislation, that's what she said. That's what I've been testifying to and I haven't brought you into it or that I can. I said it was my view. We didn't have the case to do this by statute and in fact to do it by statute that I personally was opposed to poll tax. I put that on myself. I assume that you are too, Mr. President, that you don't like a poll tax. That's right. Oh, I've made speeches 20 years statewide, radio, campaign, but I've taken this position and I raised it with you and you took the same position that the senator works. He's the executive secretary and kind of an advisor of mine, political, legal for many, many years that he didn't think that we could repeal a poll tax by statute and in an effective way it was constitutional amendments. I always voted against repealing it by statute and I always supported it by constitutional amendment in Texas and the Texas Constitution and I campaigned for it there and Rayburn campaigned with us and we bought statewide radio back before television at our own expense and tried to and each time they beat us because of teachers, get the money and they were the supporters but they used that a good deal on me in the campaign and I don't think it would hurt the record a bit if you do if you think it might involve me more than otherwise, I don't do it but consideration to it. But if they give you an opening I would just say that the president informed me that he had had the opinion of other council in past years that it would be difficult to repeal a poll tax this route but he asked me to fully explore it and give him an opinion and a recommendation because if it could be done he wanted to do that and he had an interest he hadn't reached a conclusion but he had an interest in lowering the AIDS limit and I told him after carefully considering it by our best legal talent that in my judgment he would bog the bell down this was not the way to do it and we all take this and then give further study I'll do that this morning Mr. President I said the reason for the low turnout in Texas was the poll tax I hope that's right I said I talked it over with several people yes I think so I think it's right I have said that and I said it's disgraceful President Kennedy and I had a number of discussions about it and I have forgotten but it seems to me that he had a third of the population and almost as many votes now I may be wrong what's Massachusetts check it but it's probably three million maybe four I don't have the figures in front of me we have about ten I believe that he has a million and a half votes up there and we have a million and a half and he's got a third as many people and the reason is that we got a poll tax it's not one that keeps an eye on voting he doesn't have a literacy tester he just forgets to go pay this $1.75 first year and he doesn't have to pay back like Alabama he can go in between January but I damn near forget it every year myself and the governor of the state forgot it one year and was elected governor and couldn't vote for himself that's O'Donnell if they ever get you in a corner just point out that some of the highest officials sometimes include themselves out as Sam Goldin said by not having a poll tax and O'Donnell was running for governor and they sprung it on him and he couldn't vote for himself he ridiculed it so damn much that might have been one reason he was elected because the people didn't like it but we got this teacher thing and that kept us from repealing that's the reason we don't have a vote that's what I said and anything that you can say about the Mexican say it's not just a few counties in Alabama fairly but are other places now I'm just wondering how you're going to get to the bad counties of the Mexicans in Texas or the Negroes where they I think we can do that under the existing legislation I saw you said that last night see the thing is we've been concentrating on Mississippi and Alabama and Louisiana and now we have 110 lawyers and they get freed from that I think we can do pretty well we don't have the same problem with the judges we don't have the same problem in those other sections Lindsay and Javits want to push with an amendment to it as Teddy Kennedy and I feel obligated to stay with Dirksen on this I'm going to treat I treated Javits a little bit hard yesterday because he just rubs me the wrong way frankly but I'll be a little softer with Teddy today and then just see what Dirksen's is going to do because he's really the key there and McCulloch in the house I think I've got to I can't move away from them I saw them that's what you're right I'll let you go I bless you I'll see you later in the day