 He started a little series, I hope to do more of this. Here's Lady Aida from high school. A little bit after high school. A little bit after high school, but really close. Because you have the lip ring. I want to say I didn't get that till I was 18. Yeah, but I've seen the picture of you in high school. You look identical. I look the same. So we did this little series called Tales from the Hack, where we, and I put this up on our blog. And it was because we were walking around after we'd been doing this floppy project. And it kind of just hit you and you told me the story and I'm like, oh my god, the story is so good. I must, I must, I must. Email Mudge, who's now the CTO of Twitter, and Joe Grant, Kingpin, and see if it's okay to post this story. So Lady Aida, take it away. What is this thing that happened when you were in high school with Joe Grant and Mudge, kind of, well-known people in the hacker scene? Yeah, at the time they were local Boston buddies in the 617 crew. But when I was in high school, I was helping out in the IT department. And they were talking about a bunch of old, like Apple and Coco and T-R-S-A, like really old computer stuff that had been in the cage. Are you saying in high school, you did computer stuff and you were doing stuff with the IT department? It's true. I'm shocked. I know, well at the time it wasn't so cool, but I was just, you know, the IT director, she was really awesome. And I think I was just helping organize and clean up and she was gonna dumpster all this stuff. And I was hanging out with a lot of hacker crews and hacker houses. And, you know, one thing that I knew about hackers is like they love old hardware, especially free hardware. And so when I... It tastes better if it's free. It does taste better. So I, you know, I called up or I emailed or I messaged Kingpin, maybe I paged him, he was doing paid-your-stuff. And I said, hey, come out of high school and help me dig through this trash and maybe we can find something cool. We could either sell it at Swatmean or we could recycle it into some projects. So Joe Jogram came by, he does a lot of hardware hacking stuff now and does product design for PowerLax, among others. We dug through some hardware. I think we got a pile of Apple 2Cs and then we had to get it, I think, to the loft. And, you know, me and Joe Grand were like, we weren't, we didn't drive. I think he was like 18 or 19 and maybe he didn't know a car. And I was, I don't think I was 16. I didn't have a driver's license yet or at all. And he's like, okay, let me call Mudge. So Mudge came by and he drove in in this like incredible car, like the coolest fucking car. This is not the actual car, but I asked Mudge, this is pretty close though. This is, it's the same car, but you know, I don't know if it's, it's a Mustang, it's a Cobra. Yeah, it's a Cobra Mustang. This was the coolest car ever. What's funny is you asked Mudge, like, oh, what was that car? He instantly like knew all the specs and mod. I mean, he loved that car. He drove up in this like sweet ass car in front of the quad, where all, you know, after school, where all the kids were like smoking and skateboarding and whatever hanging out. Cause it's kind of the outside quad area of the high school. And it's like, car drives up and it's just like this totally bitching car. And I get in with these Apple II C's and like everybody in the high school was like, what, what the hell? Why, why do you have a friend with such a cool car? Why were you carrying some Apple II C's? And we thought you were a loser, but it turns out that you, your friends are cooler than ours. So I was like, I was kind of cool for like two days. So let me tell you some parts that Lady A does not going to say. Sorry. So, well, first up, let me just do the big thank you. So thank you, Mudge and Joe Gran for being you because they saw something in this young woman who was interested in technology, who was getting made fun of a lot, who was getting tormented a lot, who was told, don't do this, this isn't for you, girls don't do this, all the things that happened still to this fucking day. And I'm kind of tired of it. Like today we got an email, how dare you do retro stuff? How dare you do this? This is mine. It's so terrible what people do to each other. I actually love the people think I'm like 25, like I'm much older than that. And I'm sorry to curse, but it bothers me that when you told me this story, I was looking at a tweet that we had to block some guy because he was being so shitty online about you liking technology. This is a waste of time. Why is this want to be got, I'm not gonna even say the curse words. But like, why is your experience have to be so much different? Like if you were a young boy, it would be like, oh, look how he liked computers. It's so good. But because you were a woman. I don't know. I think we live in a society that's- Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. And I'll say this for 2022, I'm sorry everybody. Like we have to call it out. We have to say stop. I mean, we're gonna be positive and we're gonna show good things. But it's a little ridiculous that the day that we're getting this story and you're like, yeah, people made fun of me and I was cool in high school just for like a day because of this. And we're like dealing with people being shitty to you. I don't like it. I don't like it. And here's the other part. And I shrugged up because I think it's not a big deal. I shrugged because it is, you know, I agree. So I have a, let me put it on time travel because I don't want to even have the Apple logo. Look at this. So sorry, Apple logo. Look away. Cover your little rainbow eyes. You're too beautiful. So I remember I was talking to a CEO-like person of a company that's very similar to Adafruit. And I was telling them about something that we had to deal with. We had to basically get a restraining order against someone because of something that they said did sent mail. Just physically. Anyways, it was a messed up thing. It got granted. Yeah. And it was a messed up story. And they said, oh, you know, things can't be that bad. And I said, have you ever gotten flowers delivered to you with a death thread and saying, I'm going to cut your head off because you're trinity from the matrix? Have you ever had to deal with having, making sure there was enough people around going to an event so they didn't bother you? Like all these things he's like, no. And I'm like, yeah. So like, please don't say like it can't be that bad. Like your experience, you're like, oh, I have to like run a business and it's really tough. Well, not only does Lamar have to run a business, but she has to deal with all these things constantly. Like today. It doesn't make the debugger run any faster either. Like I still have all the technical problems too. Yeah. And like Adafruit worked out okay. I would say we're a successful company. Can you imagine if you didn't have to deal with all that stuff, how much more hardware you can get out? Yeah. So anyways, I'm a little upset because I thought this was a beautiful story, but I also know the other side of the coin. So maybe I'll edit this out later. Oh, we're live, I can't. Okay. So that's our tails from the hack. Okay. Let's.