 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this, we're gonna bring it to the table, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O. And I'm one of the most, by the way, Ukraine content every damn day. Hey man, we got a special guest in the house today man, this guy right here, he really don't need no introduction man, he uh, he known, he known upstate man. Is he from Saginaw, Mount Pleasant, where is this guy from? Is he from, what part of Michigan, is he from, no, he from Detroit man, check it out man, Street Law Rook is in the building, how you doing brother? I'm doing great man, how was yourself? Man, I'm totally blessed man, too blessed to be stressed brother. Man, that's what it's all about man. Save man, hey man, so, hey man, just uh, what brings you down to Dallas today man? Uh, I was just coming down to do some interviews, talk to different people. Got a lot of money, he got a lot of money, he's just riding, that's all. Hanging out man. Yeah? Enjoying life man. Yeah, enjoying life? That's what it's all about. So man, um, I like to go all the way back and just trying to kind of feel the back story of you, you know, just, so our listeners, um, the guys that watch this channel understand who you are. Um, growing up in Detroit, just give us a little inspiration on the early, the early stage Rook, you know. Uh, I'm talking about grade school coming up, what neighborhood, all that good stuff. I grew up on the west side. I grew up on the west side, west side of Detroit. Um, you know, I grew up in the hood, you know, my, my parents was drug dealers, you know, my mom was in and out of jail, dad was in and out of jail, so I was raised by my grandmother, you know. Me and my little cousin, so we grew up with the last fortunate kind of section eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, section eight. Covering this up to the house and just trying to figure it out. Yeah. Make a better way. Yes. So I had good times and bad times when my mama was home, you know, she made it happen, made it all right. And when she was gone, me and grandma was trying to figure it out. The best she, the best she could with where she had, she made it work. Yeah. It was all good. And I was an athlete, played football and basketball, stuff like that. How old was you when you started playing football? Eight. Oh, yeah. Eight. Eight. You played all the way up to high school? All the way up to high school. Wow. That's good. So your mom and dad, what was the choice of drugs that they sold? Cocaine, heroin. Cocaine in the back of the ride. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Because that was what, what was that boot? That was in the 70s? 70s, 80s. I was born in the late 70s. Well, okay. So 70s and 80s. Mama and daddy was hustling. Yeah. Daddy went to the fairs twice. Mama went to the trial with the fairs. She won. But she was in the States during a couple of times. Wow. So growing up like that, I know we had Charlotte Lowe Jr. on here. He grew up like that in Bowen Homes. He was just down in, shout out Charlotte Lowe Jr., man. But he gave you the same type of spiel, man. Growing up like that, what kind of things did you see, as far as transpiring between, you know, did you ever see the cops interacting with your mom, Neil, or did they ever, when the first time you've seen and knew that, hey, man, we hustling over here. Shit. You seen that? They won. Like, I mean, my mom, when she was selling drugs, like, I didn't sell drugs with my mom. She was boosting. I didn't went boosting with my mom. Yeah. I didn't want to see my dad at the feds. I don't want to see my mom at the state prison. Wow. And my family, at the end of the day, you get a certain age. You got a sack. Like, it wasn't everything like, no. Well, how old was you when you got your first sack? Let's talk about it. Man, I was hustling price in about 11. 11? You were selling a what? Weed. Weed? It was the first drug I started selling weed. Weed, yeah, yeah. And so did you ever sell cocaine? Yeah. I sold cocaine. I'd have sold heroin. I'd have sold pills. I'd have sold every drug. I'd have been a hustler. Like, I was selling candy. I'm working on my living room. Yeah. When Penny Candy was going on. So. Yeah. So I was listening in. I looked back at, I seen your Big D moguls interview was saying that street lawyer was around before BMF. Is that true? Are you just, I mean. No, it's like, no, I ain't no cap. Like what I'm saying is like BMF was around. I ain't ain't no knock on them guys. They say they weren't hustling. They weren't getting money. But I'm saying in Detroit. BMF wasn't the shit that was popping. Street lawyers was the shit that was popping. Like it's no knock to say they weren't getting money or they weren't doing anything because I'm sure they was, you know, but the guys who was talked about at that time frame was not BMF. It was the street lawyer. So. Okay. So when did it? When did the street? Later than right? Yeah. Yeah. When did the street laws get bumped out the way? We got into 2002. Some of us got into 2002. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So that basically ended the whole, how many people was it in the street lords? Out of the rap group, it was probably like five of us that literally rap. But a round that was involved, it might have been 10, 15. When I got indicted, it was like 23 people in the case. But all of us didn't get indicted on that case. Like street lawyer, why he wanted to catch a letter case. He caught a case when I came home and he just came home. Like he'd been home a little over a year or nine. Yeah. And some of them got killed. You know, so it's been a big mess going on. Yeah. It's been a big mess, but where you hear that Detroit sound on music from T. Grizzly and Sada and Babyface Ray, a lot of that stuff come from the street lords. Big shine. You see them give it up and show us love and bad respect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I know you guys, when you were doing the music during that time, I seen you on a photo with Benny Segal. Yeah. How did you guys link up? Just being popular. They came into the town. We did. We did a record with them. So I did a record with Benny Segal. We did records with Baby, Juvenile, BG, Capone and Noree, E40, Belegit, Shine. Pretty much whoever was popping at that time frame, we did some records with them. Who was the realest out of all those guys you just named? What? Yeah. I guess all the way. My niggas was real, see, because we talk about real on here, and I see them niggas. I ain't tripping. Man. I'm a street nigga for real. I get it. I'm like you really, and I'm just on this side, and I'm in Texas, but I'm from the nothing, from the trenches, bro, and my people hustle too. So I get it. That's why I sit behind the seat, because I know when it's real, you know what I'm saying? So which one of them dudes was in the room that you could feel the energy that they really about what they say? I fuck with Belegit. Hell it's tough. Belegit was my guy. Okay. Fuck with Belegit. The ass was cool. Every two shirts was cool. They were all cool guys. No, I'm not talking about cool. I'm talking about really, really, you know, when they come to the hood, they're going to pull up. Belegit. You see what I'm saying? Belegit in the hood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Them niggas wasn't all in the hood. Them niggas quiet. A lot of times, them niggas quiet. I done been around them niggas, man. Hey, Belegit on the block with us, man. Belegit on the block with us. Man, it's crazy, man. So when you look at what happened with Young Dolph, how do you look at that compared to when you guys were in the street? I mean, people coming up just shooting and killing a guy like that. And what are your thoughts on that? My thoughts on it, man. It's like, it's sad to me because it's like these guys, they come from nothing and then they accumulate millions of dollars and you would think that they make it off the hood, but they gravitate to loving the hood and then it'd be somebody from their own neighborhood and environment killing them, you know what I'm saying? Every time. Every time it happens. Yeah, but a lot of times do you think they bring this stuff on themselves from the moves they make and the things that they say? And because you say a lot of stuff in this music, and I think that words are powerful. I think they become you. Oh, man. I think the power of the tongue is super powerful. So you got to be mindful of what you say because it comes true. You're right. I truly believe that from the bottom of my heart. I think some of these guys in the street be rapping it, but a lot of them may not really be in the street because some of the things that you see people do, street guys wouldn't do. Like, I know at my hood, I can't have no car that stand out where it's like that's root car. If I'm beefing because they don't know that's his car. I neither have a car. They look like everybody else's car so they don't get to jump on me where they can be following me because they know my car. Shit like that. You know what I'm saying? I did. I did. And I keep talking about this because you remember when I went viral when I did that video? On Young Dolphin. On Young Dolphin when he got shot in LA and I was telling him that, you know, there's three stuff that y'all talking about is real, you know, and somebody could get killed. And I went viral because I spoke right to him and I guess it resonated the way that I spoke because I was really like, you know, your niggas ain't never been to jail. Y'all ain't never faced a life sentence. You ain't never had to do no time. If you had to go down and do the time you're talking about your auntie and your mom and the MD and something that your uncle and the MD then you wouldn't even be doing the stuff you're doing right now. A lot of niggas were like, oh, you just talking and you think everybody get locked up doing that. No, I'm just telling you, you have some time to sit down and think about some things. You're going to come out doing things a whole lot different. And they don't get that. You probably still be here today if you got jail. It was either jail for me or kill me during the time when I was in the streets. Man, I was telling somebody that the other day, like if I didn't go to jail when I went to jail for me was a blessing. That's exactly right. Because it was only going to get worse. Like we selling tons and tons of marijuana. I was just going to get a whole bunch more time. So good thing I went when I went where I was able to learn different things about the stock market and meet some different people where I was able to change my life. And some of the things that I do today is based on some of the things that I learned in jail. So it was a blessing for me, even though it was an unfortunate situation that I didn't at the time want to go or felt like I needed to go. But God have a plan for sometimes that we can't see that helped better us. And I think prison has made me a better man. For sure. So again, young dog, you know, the guy, like I said, and I like to say, I just want to give him his time. Because at the end of the day, you know, the thing I hate the most is that it's like it's a given that after a person passed away, the next day they numbers go up. All these people crying and acting as if, you know, they just loved them and they wouldn't even with them when you see them before they passed away. But it's like they doing it for the gram. I'm being honest with you. And it's a spirit that you've become. It's just because when you get, you did it with, with what is named King Von. You did it with Nipsey. You did it with mode three. You did it with pop smoke. You did it and you getting used to this. And so now the next day after y'all already know, it's rehearsed that we do this the next day and we post pictures. You can always say when something bad happens to somebody. They ain't gonna always die. Like when something bad happens to somebody, the numbers always go up. It always like that. If something bad gonna happen to you, you go to jail for numbers to go up. Go up, yup. I guess that's the, that's the norm. I guess I just think that people should give people, you know, show they love why they got the opportunity. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, I like Young Dove. I listen to Young Dove music long before this tragedy happened. But people, we want attention. Man, we live in a time frame where everybody craving attention to Instagram and Facebook. That's just like some attention worship where people gonna do whatever to get the most attention. Like you see girls down there just be naked just to get some off of life. Attention. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like where's the fucking daddy's at? They ain't there. And then like... Hold on, hold on. Some dad will do be there. They don't be caring. Just cause you got your kids and stuff. You ain't the only nigga to got a kid. We not gonna do that today, bro. I'm here with my kid. They in the front. Yeah, but that don't matter. These niggas ain't at all... These niggas are locked up. You got a grown dog that you can't control. When you went down there to prison, you lying the niggas up on this side of the wall. How many of them there are? You lying the white boy over here and you lying to his family. How do the niggas' numbers look? Man, it's drastic. It's ridiculous. I know that. You see what I'm saying? So when you look at what they done to our people a lot of time, man, it's hard to fight that narrative with what's happening in our communities. I'm telling you, what do you think? I think, man, the justice system is not... There's no justice at all. Like I said it before, like... In the justice system, it can't never be fair because it's did by human beings. It's read by human beings. You got the person who commit the crime, they gonna act like they ain't did the shit. They ain't gonna lie. They ain't got the motherfucking agents. They gonna lie like a motherfucker to get a conviction. We know that. So how can it be a justice system where it's fair when you got it ran by people who gonna do what it take to convict them of it? I'll set you up, do all types of stuff. And then it's not like it's a lot of black people controlling the narrative with the say so. If you got all white judges and you got predominantly all black people coming in here and you ain't did no background check on these people or you don't know how they was raised or how they look at these individuals that come before them, they don't look at it from a fair perspective. They think just because you had an encounter with a police that you did run, that may not be the case. I get it, I get it. So you deal with filming too. I've seen that when I was looking down at Rabbit Hole. What are the films that you've created? There's some on Amazon as well, right? I got one on Amazon right now called One More Flip. I've seen that one. It was number one on Amazon for a while. All independent. Got like three more done. That's on the way that I'm going to be releasing in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to release Cheddar Boys. I just finished doing the score on that. You got Payroll, Giovanni, Scooch. You got a couple of popular people. You got the girl Erica Pinky who played All Eyes on Me in it. I got another one called Off the Port. You got a rapper from Detroit, Snap Dog in it. Okay. Hey, what's One More Flip about? Living that dope. Dope boy man. I'm saying because I was getting to the bay. I was watching White Hand. Everybody mad. It's a twist on it. Everybody think it might be about just flipping drugs and getting to the money. But it got a moral to the story. You know what I'm saying? For the people who ain't seen the movie, it's really like a must watch because it got a point. It's going to hit home. When people see the end of the movie, it hit home because it's real. Everybody experienced it and everybody knows somebody who probably went through this. The flip ain't what you think when you watch this movie. It's touching. It hit home. That's the best part about the movie then. What's the other movie? Chatter Boys? What is that? It's about some guys that's hustling. I try to make movies. Is this your story? I'm going to tell the truth. It's your damn story. It's talking about your damn life. You didn't want to call it because you don't want everybody to know how rough it gets. But it's cool. You can go and tell me on Boss Talk 101. When I do my story, I'm going to do a series because it's going to be a little more than a hour and a half to tell the whole story where I can tell the rap. But I'm going to do a series called The Lords on Me and My Homeboy. I look to get that out probably in the next 18 months or so. It's cold in Detroit. I'm not going to be up there. It's so cold. It was just snoring the other day. I flew up there and drove. Me and my wife drove to Chicago. My daughter was in Saginaw. I went up there to see what the hell was going on. My daughter is 28 now. This is when she first left and went up there. I like it up there. I did a photo shoot up there too. But you guys, like I said, it's brothers everywhere. It's some good brothers everywhere. If we can just pull them together. And just great brothers. I liked what you said. We can pull them together and try to figure out ways to be more together and unified. Then we can be stronger, man. And it's okay. We hit some bumps and bruises, right? And we all got some scars on us. But at the end of the day, they scars. Now we healed. We got to go out here and try to create a narrative that's better for our youth. The next one's coming up behind us. I think each generation should get better. I agree. Your kids shouldn't have to go through what you went through. They kids shouldn't have to go what they went through. And so on and so forth. We got to just raise our kids up right and teach them what to look for so they don't get with no damn fools. Because to me, it'd be like genetics. You know what I'm saying? If you get with somebody and have a kid with somebody who got bad genetics, it's 50-50 that you might have this fucking kid. But you're still lucky, though. Because most of them can't have kids if they get to run with... It's wild out here, brother. You know what I'm saying? We don't like to tell... There's something that got them in this situation. It's not us in a way. Do you have children? Yeah, I got children. I got a daughter who graduated from Michigan State. A daughter a senior at Michigan State. A daughter at Stanford. I got an eight and a nine year old. Did you see the Boosie episode when he was on Breakfast Club? Not sure. I watched a lot of Boosie. He entertained a guy like Boosie. He said he wouldn't give his daughter to a woman and a marriage. Would you give your daughter away to a woman? No, but at the end of the day, I think... I'm just saying it like this. You know, I think in society, the new gay thing that's going on in society that's being pushed. The narrative, huh? Yeah, I think it's changed that the world is going through. It's all around the world. I'm reluctant to that change myself. It's something I got to get adjusted to and used to because it's not my norm. But why do I get adjusted to it, though? Man. I'm going to use this example. A hundred years ago, there was some white people that was mad that black people were starting to be on TV. That was they changed. So this is the new change that we got to go through and get adjusted to because that's what's going on and I don't see it, but it's happening. It's going on around us and let them have whatever they want. You know what I'm saying? If that's what they choose to do, who am I to knock it on? I agree with you because I don't mind you having what you want to have as long as you respect me for what I want to have. And that's the biggest problem is that they don't respect you for what you want to have and they want to push the narrative on you instead of respecting you for what you believe in. I think that's wrong too. It's two sides of a coin where you think, okay, y'all disrespect me because it's the thing that I do and I feel like it's different, which is not. It's the same thing that, you know, to me anybody to change something from unnatural you know, from natural to unnatural and just do it a different way. That's on them. I ain't tripping, but at the end of the day I'm going with the process that you know the productive process that's been laid before me for me. But at the end of the day, what were you about to say because I want to hear what you want to say. They're pushing this shit on us. I don't care. That's a personal opinion. That's a personal opinion. Your bedroom is your personal opinion. We can sit and show our bedroom on camera or you want to. That's that's our bedroom opinion. Keep y'all bedroom opinion to y'all bedroom sales. We don't suppose to know y'all gay. If y'all gay, y'all gay, that's y'all. It's cool. Y'all gay. But keep to y'all sales. We don't suppose to know that. Like it's like y'all pushing on us to where y'all try to make everybody gay. I don't care what they're saying, how they feel. They're trying to make everybody gay. They wouldn't put it on TV. I've seen the picture in Dallas where it was a man with a statue, a man on the picture with another man holding him. This in Dallas. I see this. Just right down the street. Why don't we all see this? They're trying to make us gay. I don't care what y'all say. How I look at it is like change, you know what I'm saying? You gotta think. 100 years ago white people thought it was cool to do X, Y, Z to black people. They didn't want to see black people on TV. They didn't want to see black people on the air. That's cool, but we're human though. So they helped to do it. That's the situation that you put yourself in. What you gotta say? Gay people are human. They're human. That's the rights in the bedroom. We can't sit here and put our bedrooms on TV. We can't do that. So why should they though? You have romantic movies the way they get down all the time. And you have to pay for those movies too. I like the romantic movies. You have to pay for those movies. We ain't got to pay to see gay people on TV. We ain't got to pay for that. But they got regular romantic movies on TV all day long. Like if you watched it, when I grew up the stories was a big thing. Younger than the rest of the days of our lives. I ain't watched none of them. Yeah, you watched none of them. My mom watched the young and the record. You know Ms. Chandler then. You know Ms. Chandler? I don't remember named Ms. Chandler, but you know how it goes. You know, I used to be like, damn, what's Victor gonna do? I'm gonna get out of school. How are you? I don't know what they used to watch. They used to watch Dallas. Who shot J.R.? So all of that stuff was on TV. And they... It's like everything be on TV. So people want to see themselves. Like they see everybody else. You see heterosexual couples on TV. Having outings. But a gay person may want to see a gay person having an outing on TV that they can relate to. Tell them to go pay for it. My code was off the chain. We had to go pay for it. We had to go pay for sacred shit. We had to go see on TV. Tell them to go pay for it, man. So let me... Let's move on. When you think about the gatekeeper, it was one time old Trick Trick was trying to get it. You got to check in when you come in the town. Okay, y'all still using Trick Trick as y'all a gatekeeper to let people come in and out of the city? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trick Trick was the nigga that said he was running that whole setup. You talking about street lords. But Trick Trick was on breakfast club. I seen him and he said, you got to check in. Niggas ain't fit to just come up in here. Trick Trick don't know about it. You got to check it in. So let me know about that. What do you mean? Did the street lords answer would be no? Why not? Why would we? That's y'all city though. I mean, I was just saying, like Trick Trick cool guy, but we ain't got to check in with no Trick Trick. Like that's not something that ever happened. But you know, Trick Trick cool guy, fuck with Trick Trick. I ain't got nothing negative to say about him, but that ain't something we had to do. What was he checking in about? Do you know? I really never thought that was cool personally. I never got into that. That's not my thing. Rick Ross can't come in and perform for whatever reason it was. I thought that was disrespectful to Rick Ross. I ain't agree with it, but I don't know the motive behind it. I don't know what it solved. That's something that could have been prevented and talked about and worked out as men. I don't think the way they did it was the way to handle it. I'm a businessman at the end of the day. That wasn't good business. Because at the end of the day, we got to still go back down to Miami. So that didn't create a business situation to me. I'm about having business and getting money. That wasn't a situation where we could have got money to me. I feel you. Good answer. Another thing, you know, I heard about you, Ron. I missed a 35,000 selling clothes in three days. I heard that you sold 40 million dollars, you and your crew, 40 million dollars worth of weed. Chronic, was it skunk back then? Was it what they call it now? What y'all call it? Nigga, you smoke. What y'all call it? No comment. No, no, hell no. Cush. At any rate, Nigga, you was the guy that pretty much was one of the guys that they say sold this much drugs in 10 months. Now, now, I don't know who had to calculate them. I don't know where y'all hear y'all's at. But I want to get into the details of this because that's what you've been doing. You've been beating around a bush on these other platforms. But I want to understand how they came to the assumption whether it did or it didn't happen. How do they calculate the amount of drugs that they felt like you and your team the street large was pushing. How did they do that? They stopped the 18 realer with 4,700 pounds of marijuana in it. 4,700 pounds. The truck driver told him he made X amount of trips. You already went through your case. So you can talk about this. So the truck driver has 4,700 pounds. 4,700 pounds, guys. Oh, 4,700? 4,700 pounds. And so, man, I hate to got you like that, man. Damn, they stopped it from going where it was going. Yeah, I don't want you to think I'm Vlad. We're going to talk about this. I did my time, man. So when this happened, how did you feel about it? Like, you're like, damn. When the truck was late, like two days and my cousin was pressing to go get Well, you come from the valley? I come from Arizona. Okay. So my cousin, like, he pressing to go get the truck and I'm like, man, I should caught, man, I fucked that shit. He sent 13 guys to go to the truck stop to pick up the weed. FBI coming in from everywhere. Shoo, shoo, shoo. Super everybody. Two days they was plotting is what you're saying. Yeah, they, um, started arresting people and then they died of people to jail. Wow. So how much would a 47 hundred pounds run you back then? A couple million dollars and get a pound about four hundred dollars, three fifty. So 47 hundred pounds would be about a couple million dollars. And so and that's a lot of niggas in the street trying to hustle, breaking it down. Back then, you know, pounds might have been eleven, twelve hundred. So y'all, y'all just doubling them up. Y'all wouldn't be in greed. You know, like, a little trippin' on our money then. Yeah. I mean, but was y'all anal about it? Or was y'all letting niggas, even niggas couldn't make it, y'all, you know. Man, it was so much money flowing. So it was like, everybody was eating, like, I ain't, um, when we got a diet, it was like billboards in Detroit, like, man, if y'all think it's a drought, wait till November, you know what I'm saying, because we was the only ones we'd bring a whole bunch of weeds into the city. So 47 hundred. Hold on, hold on, I'm stuck on the number. The FBI put the billboards up? Yeah. 47 hundred. So let's talk about this 47 hundred right quick. So they calculate that out to be ten million within, I mean, I'm sorry, how many millions a month? They had to have a two to- So what they charged us with, they just said we moved 40,000 pounds in X amount of time. But if you do the math at a geopound, that's 40 million dollars. Yeah. So at the end of the day, that's how they come up with that calculation. They probably said it was worth more. They want you to, they're trying to throw you away, nigga. They gonna break it down to every nickel back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, we, we sell them pounds. What'd you think they did? You think they burned it? You don't know. They put that shit back on the street. Come on now. Let's go then. That shit going back on the street. For another drill bus. Say man, that's good stuff right there, man. So, um, but you, you know, back in the days when they hustled, you know, when you run out of drugs, man, ain't gonna lie to you worse than a dope feed, even though you didn't smoke. Listen, you did not want to be out of product. Hell no. That was the most discouraging thing when everybody be like, no man, ain't nobody got nothing. Ain't nobody got nothing? Man, how I look at that shit, man, I always was one of the person going to make that shit happen. Like, you know, today you hear everybody, I'm a boss. I'm a boss. Man, you ain't no boss if you waitin' on your man to go get your bag. You ain't no boss. You're really a worker. Me and you both. Me and you both. I ain't wait on them. I remember one time, and I don't never tell these stories. Let me, let me get out of it. I'm gonna let you be, I'm gonna let you do your thing today. But, but I can say that, you know, when you look at what what you went through the time you spent, and then you get to pass forward to today, and now they've legalized the equation. Man, you know, how many people do you feel, how do you feel about that first of all? I'll stop right there. Man, it's kind of like an insult. It's like a slap in the face. They, they ruin some of our lives, you know what I'm saying? We did time in federal prison, and then they turn around and let cookie sell drugs legally. Yeah. Sell marijuana legally. Yeah. Same thing as I sold. Yeah. But, you know, and I got a felony for marijuana. I only got, you know what I'm saying, but I can't get it on the moon. You can't get it on the moon. I got to get part from the president. So, you know, I feel a little certain way about that, like, but maybe five, ten more years it'll be legally federally, and they'll be trying to clear my record and give me some reparations. I don't know, but I ain't got, I ain't waiting on it either, you know, I got to I feel like once they legalize it in every state they should every felony they gave for we that should just expunge it. They should. They should, but, man. Waiting on the government to do something for us, man. I know. We ain't never getting the full take from them now. I look at it like this, man. I've been around for ten president elections. I ain't seen that one of the motherfuckers changed my family in any way, shape, form, or fashion. I got to get some money regardless of who in the office, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat. No, that should matter. I feel you on that. I feel the same way. I still got to feed my family and get some money. 100. 100. So, what are you still in the music? Or you don't really write music? I still do music. I got records coming out. I just did a video out with me, Saddle Baby and Payroll. We got a record called Trust These Homes. I waited on the clearance from Empire to clear this record and I was going to release the soundtrack for the movie. So, yeah, I still do music. Yeah. And some of your same old crew members, y'all putting the crew back together. Yeah, I think y'all putting the crew back together. Man. How the hell? Put the crew back together as far as what? How many people in that crew do you still fuck with? Some of the dudes was my cousin. So I fuck with my cousins. I fuck with one. I fuck with a few of them, but all of us are not friends. Some of them do not. How many of them snitched? Out of the rap group. No. You fuck with. The ones you fuck with. How many of them snitched? None of them snitched. Some of them have never been in jail. So they never got indicted where they would have to tell. So they stand up guys. They don't call other cases the main tale, but it's guys I don't fuck with. But I'm at the age now where if a motherfucker told man, that's them, man. I'm grown. I ain't fucking with you, but I ain't mad at you. I ain't looking to kill you easily at this day and age. I'm 43 like shit. That's them. They got to live with that. To me at the end of the day, they just a selfish motherfucker. But I ain't finna go risk my freedom and be taken away from my kids on that nipsy hustle shit. You know what I'm saying? The worst thing you could do is call a snitch a snitch. They're gonna be mad as hell ready to kill you. So at this age, it's like that's him. That's selfish motherfucker. He got to live with himself. That's so true. So when you look at the worst Saturday versus when you was doing it. When you first was doing it, it was CDs and y'all was out there flipping them. Yeah, you were flipping them. But then after a while, they're staying digitized. And most people in the music industry today, they lying a lot of time. They ain't getting no money behind the music. It's hard to get music money right now. A million, I believe it was a million streams equated to $4,000. Which ain't a lot for us. We know already. We talking millions. We talking truckloads of pounds and all kind of stuff. Your mind don't think $4,000. My bills is high as hell. So when you think about that whole layout, how do you get around the fact of making music and trying to figure out a way to establish making money? I don't use music just be like, oh, this is gonna be my way to make money. I own physical therapy clinics, so I make money. How many physical therapy clinics? I heard it. I own physical therapy clinics. Yeah, I got three physical therapy clinics. I do real estate by cell houses. I'm hustling, but I ain't hustling no ill legal product. You gotta change your hustle up. Legalized hustle. Yeah, but I ain't finna go do no bullshit. I got too much to lose at this point. Correct. But the thing I like about what you said is you're understanding that 40 million dollar stretch that they talking about, we can take that and change that to something else and still move on, right? Legalize it. Man, when I was in jail, I ain't gonna need a lot to you, man. I was sitting in there laying on my bunk. I'm thinking like, damn, man, you can have made millions of dollars doing something else. This shit for suckers, man. This ain't what's happening. It's the same way. Don't you think you're like, damn. Man, I'm smarter than this. Granted, it might be some niggas in there who can't do shit else, but I'm like, nah, I'm smarter than this. It makes you think, don't it? Yeah, for sure. How much time you did? I did four years. Four years. That ain't bad. Man, how much money? No, anytime is bad. Man, one day is bad. My mother doesn't belong to you. You've been in that motherfucker too long, man. That's some bullshit. We intelligent motherfuckers. We can figure out how to get some cheese. That shit ain't worth it. And I'll tell you, it ain't worth it because the stress that it put on you and your family members. If you go to jail, all the money I made caused my little sister or my little brother to go crazy because I'm in jail and they can't cope with me being in jail. Yeah, I understand that. I'm myself doing all this stuff from the street so I know it's gonna come back on me one day so I know I'm gonna have to be in jail one day. That's how I look at it. I look at it like I did this crime so I gotta do this time. I know I did it. So it's like, when will it come back on me? It's my time to do it. I'm not out there trying to go to jail but if it comes back on me, I did it. So I gotta do this time. So it's like, I'm not out there just like, I don't think I'll go to jail for this but no. But if it comes, it comes. So going to jail is the effect that it has on other people. It affects other people way harder than you know. I know. I remember when I was in jail, when my mama was in jail, I remember going to see her. That right home affected me like a motherfucker. That right home, leaving my mama in prison and that right home was like, whatever the fuck she did wasn't worth the pain that I had to suffer that right home. That shit was fucked up. My kids didn't come see me when I was in jail because I had been through that and I didn't want my kids to experience that shit. That's real. Hustle gear, where my shirt at, Donald? I'm going to make sure you get out. Where my shirt at, Donald? I'm going to sell you the joggers. I'm going to send them down. You let me know the size down that way. $100 tomorrow, your shit will be in the mail by Friday. I'm going to get your number and everything before we shut this down. Hustle gear, just tell me what inspired that and how did you come up with the design? I actually drew the logo myself. I'm a homeboy, they were selling t-shirts and shit like me. I want to do that shit. I drew the design up and at the time we getting a bunch of money so all the homies wearing them 100% hustler, cheddar boy that where it became like a fad. I wanted to go into the magic show. I went to Hong Kong, I stayed over there 10 days. What year was that? That was in like 2000, 2001 I went to Hong Kong before that. I stayed over there 10 days designing the whole line. I met the dude, Sal Parasuko. When Parasuko jeans was popping we had the same agent. There were 4 million in sales at Magic. What was that magic? It was going on. I got a dietit, they wound up still like $2-3 million worth of clothes since I went to the fed. Wow, man definitely man, all the stuff that you've been through man, how important is it to have God in your life? That's super important man. I think spirituality and God and believing in the higher power kept me saying when I came home it wasn't all gravy I remember my daughter wanted a Game Boy when I was in the halfway house and I had the money for the Game Boy but I really couldn't afford that motherfucker so I was struggling. Should I go back to selling dope? I'm ready to get a bag but it's like you better than that, you're going to figure it out just keep believing in yourself. That kept me going believing in myself and the higher power to know something was great and coming for me so. Dang, that's dope. How important is family? That's real important I think and my family it'd be a disarray sometimes there's a lot of competition you know sometimes family don't want to see other family doing better than others sometimes jealousy is just a lot be going on in family but I try to raise my kids and keep everybody together and build up from within and try to make it better but you know family is a struggle like it's everybody got some bad shit going on in their family that they try to suppress and act like ain't really going on but everybody experiencing some trauma in their family like we all got some trauma going on that we're dealing with in every aspect where deaf somebody dead, somebody getting high using drugs, somebody went to jail it's trauma in every family like so staying together and trying to hold each other accountable is a big thing So who's hot I remember you all had nothing going up there you all remember Daisy Lofa was the only one you all had you had a damn female up there she was running the whole damn city had a little gun and everything you remember that she was running the whole damn city she was about this tall yeah this tall with a gun jumping out the bed you don't remember that dude you locked up no I was home when Daisy came up with the trauma I was home when that popped up but right now we got we got a lot of people popping right now I actually like Daisy Lofa I thought she was kind of cute we got Babyface Ray he popping I got records with both of them coming out okay that's dope we got GT we got we got Street Lore 1 we got Street Lore Rook man it's a whole list it's a whole list of Detroit rappers that's growing that's the sound that's really popping that Detroit Flint sound where you got Rio you got Young O G you got BF the Pac Man it's a plethora I can't even be honest with you I can't keep up with them it's so many of them coming back to back to back I can't keep up first of all did y'all fix that water over there in Flint you just said Flint what's up with the damn water is the water fixed yet? no man that's your job you're a leader man you don't want to fix the water up there you don't come out of Detroit and go fix the damn water listen man when you running it how far is it? that ain't nothing I run all the way down to Louisiana everybody know that's right two hours ain't nothing I was in Atlanta yesterday that's 12 hours I ain't tripping I don't mind jumping I go how do you make the difference? it's more political on getting the water fixed it's not just something that the inner city people in the community got control over with the water board the elected officials how did you feel when that happened? black people get the short end of the stick all the time in a predominantly black community we get the short end of the stick on everything on education water policing we get the short end of the stick what we gotta do to figure that part out where we can stop getting the short end of the stick to me personally we need to build up from within build our own economy system black mine black grocery stores black's coming together taking care of black neighborhoods big Sean yeah I wasn't going to let you get off and talk about big Sean big Sean just though the rain that was the second best time you can see it I'm going to tell you the first time later that's my boy, you watch it big Sean do we ever come back to Detroit? have you seen that nigga? that nigga on the picture that's how I met that nigga up there in Vegas at the magic I talked to big Sean on FaceTime through my boy Wine Wine and big Sean really close and they cool when big Sean was getting started Street Learn Wine was letting him record in the studio so they really close Wine put him on the file, talked to him on FaceTime he's in the city, like he worked with all the Detroit artists, he got records with them actually he performed on Thanksgiving at the halftime of the Lions game he ripped Detroit to the fullest in a litter but he spent time there, he's supporting the movement he's supporting people what's going on shout out to big Sean, shout out to T.Grizzly shout out to everybody in Detroit who's doing their thing it's more supportive today than it was 20 years ago how did you link up with Birdman when you say you did stuff with Baby? he came in town and we paid him to do a record how was that? y'all had a guap so y'all he came in he did his thing he did his verse he did his verse he was cool we did like some tour stuff with Cash Money we did different shows with him so it was love did he pay you? no he didn't pay us y'all had your own marketing strategy the worst show that we probably ever did we did a show in Atlanta with Cash Money this is right when they was poppin this is right when Bling Bling came he was at the atrium that was in 1998 or something damn it boy we had the atrium we performed at the atrium so the crowd went crazy cause they want Cash Money this one Bling Bling came up and the host telling them they finna put Cash Money on but they forgot that we were supposed to go on next what did they do with y'all red atrium boo that crowd was like god damn fool that was booing so it was I'm actually a big Birdman fan I love what he done over there all the people who would be crying about the money millionaires it's crazy to me they brought a good money over there these guys didn't came from nothing to something they should be very proud of that whole operation that they done they're bigger than people give them credit for he could have had the biggest acts of music for a long time from Little Wayne to Drake to Nicky to Juvenile he been rocking for a long time and been consistent to slip young thug he been doing this thing like he gave over one billion dollars away oh yeah for sure he actually put Nicky drinking up one million dollars so y'all can say he's not making money he's not doing this thing man but hats off to that guy anybody who will give him his flowers they just bein' he even spend time with YB he done did you know that he always give everybody I was with Deriz he always give young dudes the right hand of fellowship in the south for sure and I know that because you see it we got a couple of people down here so who's really like when you come to the city you know is it trick trick the check in thing no listen who's the man up there but boy that be a no idea I just can't see another grown man checking into another grown man man trick trick my guy but man that I ain't nobody in my crew never did no check in so so BML doing the movie up there you had a few people with disgruntled about it saying you know don't put their name in and all that wait a minute man I'm just trying to figure out what's going down what's really going down up there man man that guy is not blue da Vinci from California but I mean I don't this is my personal opinion nobody can say nothing bad about your name if you ain't doing nothing bad you wouldn't have been saying no bullshit like it ain't no knock on him or whatever he got going on but he ain't have to say that shit and nobody would probably would have been thinking about blue da Vinci man it ain't it ain't that crazy man if he never would have said that shit he would have never been a big hoopla about it like he never would have said whatever he said like chasing attention that's all it was so I mean I don't know what he did but if he did it's too bad that's all it was chasing attention like you said ain't no person that's been in the streets from getting on the internet and go to just doing shit like that you've been in the streets for a long time if your name ain't holding what you're just going to hold it wait by yourself you ain't got to say nothing at all to nobody I mean that's what I stand on like shit if you ain't did you ain't got nothing to worry about I know the guy Dexter Sosa really well hey man we done had a heck of a run we done had a heck of a run man how can people get a hold of that what's your top 3 artists of all time come on dead or alive you know what we're going to ask top 3 artists of all time number one it can be hip hop it can be any genre all time you got to put Michael Jackson in man aw man they can say Michael Jackson they say Chris Brown better than Michael Jackson man that's just they don't know Michael Jackson man I don't know if I'm talking about the big No's Michael Jackson you get a shout out every time man I'm talking about the big No's Michael Jackson okay well at least you know which one the kid woulda whooped some people up too yeah so who is number 2 2 Parker 2 Parker the realest yeah number 3 man one of my favorite artists yeah all time I rock with Scarface woo that thing ain't never did a bad first nigga check it out that buck came in Texas hard on that one I grew up on different music man the music that I grew up on that I rock with probably different than everybody wow so how can people get a hold of you if they want to try to get up to be in a cameo in a film you doing a casting call we want to get on how we do it DM me streetlordrook on Instagram it's streetlordrook on Facebook on Twitter it's a real street lord one just DM me I respond I ain't no funny stuff nigga none of this I never asked everybody who what's love I don't know if they ain't DM me no crazy shit for the most part I ask anybody then if they off the deep being with some weirdo shit in them just kind of quit responding but I ain't blocking nobody it ain't this serious man yeah this real life like I'm a real person better than nobody else I feel the same I feel the same way man thank you so much for coming on the show man one thing I can't say brother always tell everybody sitting there see we love you brother I love y'all too man we here in Texas you got your new found family in here that's your sister that's your cousin and I'm your brother we family and we want our damn outfit too so yeah all three of us we co-hosting this thing we gonna do a round the table for all our people and medium right there I guess I can do a large cause I'm trying to lose weight but you know and what you want baby small okay yes you were tight but at the end of the day brother thank you for coming on our show and like I said the way you pushing man I know already entrepreneurship is written all over you you know I know you're entrepreneur hey man help some young brothers that's trying to come up pass it to somebody give 5% to charity man everything gonna be alright alright man check it man hey man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101