 Hello everybody, how are you doing? Hi, Lesh. I'm Indy. How are you doing? Good Excellent good. Well, welcome everyone. I'm excited about this project. Are you? Oh good. Good. Well, I'm excited too. And so was Alash. I'm pretty sure I'll keep Alash up late because it's 10 p.m. What he is right now It's not late for me, but Well, I would say that's late But you go, it's past midnight is your normal bedtime you say so so it's not late at all Good that works out well for us because 4 p.m. Eastern time is going to be the regular time for for these live casts During the month of October as we celebrate Hacktoberfest and so this is the inaugural So this is the inaugural Premier video for that for our event this year. So welcome to everyone Let's see who we have in the chat. We have Kaye and Kaye started off well issue first one to the chat and Stets don't does a paper bag on my head. It's unique code way out of it Okay, so there anyone else whose programmers in the audience. I we understand that feeling But don't worry it'll get better There's Jamie Tommy Susan Aubrey Donna bond Camille Mike young and I'm sure the others who are probably joining us some Some might be here, but are just shy. So just to say hi in the chat, you know, let us know where you're from and stuff And there's more havelin. Are you doing more havelin? Good to see you So hopefully some of the people who joined us during the source on last weekend during some of those live cast will join us again Eric and Omo. Well, baby is here. Good. Excellent. Good to see you folks. So And then we have some regrets from people who couldn't be here live Chris Whitton himself isn't gonna be able to make it an a win isn't for this one But she's gonna be joining us on camera for future ones and we'll look forward to that and In true one I'm also hoping to get some of the other app developers and people who are working on this project Also on camera, but I've got to tell you that many of them are very shy so They're a little camera shy, so they're fine behind the screens programming and doing lots of fun stuff, but They're not They're they're not like the rest some of us. So anyways, that's fine We'll see but anyways, just to give you a bit of background if you're unfamiliar with Octoberfest Octoberfest is something that's been going on For a number of years and basically during the month of October programmers and different types get together and they Do coding projects? And the the key thing about them is that the projects are are open source Our quotes and what that means is that People can work together on them and the results of the codes are available for others to use most often for free because that's usually the The licensing that that is is agreed upon and the benefit of that is that anyone in the world can benefit from the work together in the collaboration Very much in tune with the spirit of wiki tree. So it seems like a natural a natural a natural partnership that we would want to join this project and So the the tech team at chris witton and the tech team thought that this would be a perfect thing for us to do And so the focus this year is for the first time wiki tree is participating in this open source project And we have two specific projects that we're going to be working on One will be to work on what's called the dynamic the dynamic tree browser And i'll i'll be showing you some example of that As we go along and what that will allow us to do is to program different ways of looking at your family trees so There already is a dynamic family tree Which allows you to see your family tree and you can expand it to see grandparents great grandparents and that sort of thing But other people who have done apps and A separate apps are adding their own views to that So for example, i'm going to be Adding a fan chart and i've already started on that. It's uh, it's very very rough It looks really kind of ugly right now and i'll show you how ugly it is in fact And i made it ugly so that other people don't feel bad about what they've done because most of their other stuff That has is done so far just this week looks much much prettier than mine So um, it's for them that i'm made at this ugly actually made that great sacrificed, right? I sacrificed so that you guys would all look good. Yes, that is so you greg And we'll go with that story Because i had a paper bag over my head yesterday for three hours and uh Um, yes and people in the chat are are letting letting us know that yes This is not unique. There's lots of open source projects. Uh, k actually gave an example The whole linux operating system librae office, which is like a google docs microsoft office Um, uh compare or similar to that, but it's all open source. So again, you could use it totally free. Um, and not have to pay any user fees to Some place in the states some big mega corporation or whatever Well, it's just for use. You can also take the program and Add some programming to it to to change the behavior and then use the final result so you can Upgrade existing the projects Yeah, that's an excellent point. Yeah, I hadn't even I I'm relatively new to this whole open source program myself. Um So that's an excellent point and then when when a lesh improves things and then shares that back on to github or whatever Place you share that open source then other people can take advantage of his brilliance and You know improve it there and then someone else improves it and just It um, it's great for everyone so So I talked about the one project is the dynamic Tree browser and people are adding different views. Um, and the other other project is a browser extension And lesh do you want to explain what a browser extension does? Well, it adds It a browser extension can actually Reprogram the page to look slightly different at various functionality to it Without being without changing the coding on the server. So it's you is installed in the browser and I mean a lot of things can be done with that Um, we already have five or six widely used browser extensions for wiki tree. Um, but this isn't attempt to actually Make them work as a single package and so the users will have to install only one single extension and that will be it And we will also probably take care of some conflicts between the extensions that were happening in the past Now for people who aren't currently or are currently using all the extensions How many of these existing ones are being wrapped into this one project? Um, I'm not sure but I think all of them will be at the end. Um, I think Uh There are other the porting parts of their extensions. So I'm guessing all of them But maybe not Right Well, I mean programming though Well, just like the program the app like my fan chart app the current existing one is Massive in terms of the amount of code and I know some of the extensions are also massive in terms of that So that's a lot. It's a lot of work to port it over. Um, so In a maybe ideally in the long run, they will all be somewhat somewhat there, but we'll see I don't know I really didn't have almost any problem. I I ported wiki tree plus extension to the common one in 20 minutes Yeah, that's amazing I could not I cannot port the fan chart in 20 minutes. I can just tell you that It's different there because uh You have to change the api and so on but For extension it to I was really surprised that it was so easy That's amazing. Yeah. So jamie has told us What ones are there currently and jamie is sort of one of the is the sort of the tech lead on on the extension part Um, so from the toolkit wiki tree plus and some of the b extension e and b calls So that's cool That's great. Um So for those who aren't familiar with extensions as lesh said they can sort of rewrite the page one of the um simple extension not not necessarily a wiki tree one, but um one of the first type of extensions that was ever Is created often is one that takes the ads out So it scans the web page sees where there's an ad and then just hides that basically the ad blockers are You know But that's an example of an extension because it takes the web page in It analyzes it and then just changes it in this case it hides parts that it thinks you don't want to see so Um in most of the wiki tree ones it's instead of hiding stuff It's actually giving you extra functionality or extra buttons or reformatting it. So it looks differently. So that's kind of a good thing So um I was gonna start this office to introduce allow us to introduce ourselves. Um, but I think a lesh and mindy are familiar everyone is pretty much familiar with you too. Um I'm a lash nice to meet you So next week what I could have been some other people who aren't regulars I'll get them to introduce themselves And where they're working. Um, but I thought maybe um, I'm gonna start off demonstrating some of the stuff That has gone on. Um, some of the work that has been done with the uh, wake dynamic family the dynamic trees And uh, so I'm going to share my screen. So, um Just to let you know, I'm working from a single laptop normally when I livecast I'm at home and I have two extra big monitors on each side of me um Because my laptop screen is actually starting to disintegrate. Um, there's an edge along the left and the bottom With the pixels are dead. So I have to make sure my windows are just a little bit smaller Um, but uh, I was playing for a funeral today at the church and I didn't have time to leave. So This is where I am broadcasting from. So that's that's the the pipes of my Pipe organ that I play at. So this is where I am. So if I fumble around, it's because I'm working on a tiny screen in a church that's re-reverberating Um, it's got great acoustics here. I don't know if it's how if the acoustics are coming across there But let me just Present my screen. Let's see Okay. Yeah, that's the screen I want Okay, and boom So now, uh There we go. Let's go to The regular one So here is, uh Max What's that zoom in if you can it's very small. Is it very small? Oh Okay, uh, let's see Um, that's unfortunate Is that better? Okay. Yeah, that's better increase the share size Okay, so this is, uh, the dynamic family tree, uh, and maybe I'll just use There we go, or maybe even I'm higher. Um, uh, so here we are and So this is one of the this is sort of the the base one the base view that comes through and, uh So this is one that already exists actually on wiki tree in the dynamic family tree if you go to family trees and tools This one already exists. Um The page lookout is or layout is slightly different because, um, with the project that we're working on Um, we now have a choice. You can choose what type of view you want to give and so this is one of the ones that This is one version of it. It's actually morphed all week So october fest started officially on october 1st and this is only the sixth day of october And yet lots of people lots of work has already gone on So you can see there's some here and there's also some other work that's gone on that hasn't been merged yet with the, uh The tree and a lot of these are still kind of works in progress So there's going to be some bugs and whatnot, but the way this one works You just click on a plus sign and then it expands it goes up one level. So there's, um Grandparents great grandparents and you go up and then there's great great grandparents and so on That sort of thing and then the other example that was given to us program is to start with is Um, another version Which just basically looks the same and just colored differently. So not very exciting there um Let me go over here So here's another one that has been added and this one I don't know if this has been officially added to the final version or to the The current working version or not or if this is just one that um, someone has worked on is uh, The on and top of ancestor list so it gives the list of all the ancestors by generation And this number on the side is the unique number for each ancestor So if you're not familiar with the on and top numbering system every single one ancestor has a unique number So if you pick anyone so for example, if I pick pauline And her father will be her her number is three She's uh, she's actually my my birth mother and so the on and top number of your mother is three And you to find her father's number you double that so two times three is six So her father will be on and top number six. She's right there and then you And that system works and then that gives you a unique number for every ancestor Which is really handy for programming Which is that that numbering system is actually what I used when I created my fan chart So here is I promised you that I did an ugly fan chart. So here it is right now. It's very ugly You see there it is There's just the default just shows me and my birth parents And you don't even see the whole you can't even see the fan around it because I haven't I've been so lazy I haven't gotten to drawing that yet um And this version of the fan chart Um, you have to click on the arrows to get two more people So it's it's um, it's sub optimal. There's uh, a lot more work that needs to get done For this but if I do this enough Then you can sort of see you can see the shape that it's coming in, right? Um, we can see the fan You can see the fan, right? Yeah, um, and I can tell you I've got one fun function working. Okay Um, I can change it the degrees now These will be replaced by the icons that you would see in the normal fan chart So here let just to compare ugly to pretty There is the current fan chart See I've got pictures. I've got names and places and dates all these lovely things Which you can do in the current version of the app um, and these three icons here well are What eventually will be in the place of The 360 degrees two or four degrees, but if I click on this you can see it turns it into the semicircle If I click on this it turns it into the full circle So I've got a lot of work to do. So obviously I have to draw the whole and Like the background the circle and the arcs and all that sort of stuff that needs to be done adding all of this extra information adding pictures where There are profile pictures. So there's lots of work yet to do But Yeah, sorry When you're done with it, is it going to have all the same features and settings that we're used to in your current fan chart That's my plan. That's my plan and that's one of the reasons why this is such an exciting project because Currently this app all of the code for this app as I said, it's it's massive and it is in In a few files, but it they're really long and It's uh, I mean it works But some it's a little disorganized But by doing this open source project it's forcing me to to look at my reasoning And to revisit it and to rewrite it and to put comments in it and to make it a lot more structured And it also Because I'm making it open source. It also means that other people can help me with it so Would I get to a point where I've got a few more of the structural structural pieces in place There are some things that I can get I can ask for help with other people who have Volunteered to help out with octoberfest and made me don't have a project to work on So for example this top bar here Which is basically the button bar. So right now it just has those three 3360 degrees 240 degrees the the degrees which basically shows how much of a fan it's going to be The middle section here, which will eventually be like the The middle section here choosing the number of generations and then the the save and the settings button Those pieces of it I could farm out to other programmers so that they can first of all make them look pretty And then I could give each of them little pieces of that Logic to to fill out While I work on something that's say more complex I can give some of those things away and by by doing that We can ideally get to the end result quicker, but it also means other people know how the whole Um app how the whole project works so that um, you're not always reliant on me because even though i'm planning to live to be 100 Which is still quite a number of years away Yeah, you've got like what 70 years or so Oh, I love it. I love it. Uh, not quite 70 years left I'd like to sing that um but The idea is that then this fan chart will live on You know well past uh when i'm still programming and uh, and it'll probably improve all over time So for me that's it's something that has something been in the back of my head for a while Is that you know, I really should be able to share this so that um It's not just you're not just relying on one person for this particular app, especially one Um, I've had you know, lots of positive feedback about the fan chart and people love the fan chart, which is great Um, but I'll feel better when it's in a safe place and other people can also look after it So that's kind of the the thing that i'm one of the really positive things about this You know, so uh, I guess one of the questions I have and I don't have a I don't have a poll set up, but um The way this one's working. I basically took the original the dynamic tree Which in the way this one works where you plus hit the plus sign and you get another pair of ancestors You hit the plus sign you get another pair and you so you build it up a pair at a time For the fan chart the way the the regular one works is you get um, oh, you know wants to restart it You build up one whole generation at a time which to me makes the most sense But is there As you can see with this there's multiple ones. There's like there's different trees Versions of the same App basically so this one is there's one that just colored differently um, which you know, you could probably do that with one app and just have an option to change the coloring but Uh, what is there any would there be any desire any interest in a fan chart that builds just say one pair of ancestors at a time? um Or just building a generation of time like the default app works currently. Is that the only way that makes sense to you? um So i'm just curious if because it'd be easy to to have two versions of the fan chart one that builds the way it currently does one generation at a time um And to have one that sort of works with the way this current deep of the current one that i've got The one that looks ugly right now, um and just build it One set of generate ancestors at a time so That's one of the questions I have is is this current sort of functionality. Is that of any use to anyone or Shall I just scrap that and keep on going to the uh, the generational one Does that make does my question make sense? Move to generational one for the fan chart you're interested in the whole generation usually Yeah Okay, that was my feeling to a lash. Yeah Yeah, I think so too You think so too? Okay, then I will make that and that's how I we're used to looking at it though You know if if we're adding in in that kind of a format. We do look at the whole generation being added Yeah Um, let me just show you a couple other things. Let's see what else is here. Um So I showed you the on and toffle ancestor list app that's um I think steve was working on that but uh I should have written that down. Um these um Steve has worked on a number of different timelines. So steve harris And so this is the profile timeline and he had this was a standalone app that he released just a couple months ago And he has added this view to the um To the dynamic tree. So you see it take it whoever the profile person is It shows their birth and then all of the related Their siblings children and parents any events that are related to them It shows that as you go along Um, and then he also has uh, he's worked on a location timeline Which is kind of boring for me because it just has my birth my marriage location But if I were to type someone else in If I can remember someone else Is Let's see what that one does Yeah, maybe not that was not the right but oh well, uh, let me go back to me again um There we go, and then he also has done a chronology chart, which is pretty cool because that shows Um, all of those same people who were in the timeline view it shows their lifespan So you can sort of compare their lifespan So you can see both of my birth parents there obviously lied before I was um, and then The rest of my family And if I let me so That's um, those are two those are some other views that are coming soon So those that's basically that's the uh progress so far with the dynamic dynamic family tree and things that we're working on um Eventually we are going to need people to test uh things and um We've only been we're only in the very first week So if many like myself for example, I believe many of our developers are still in the early stages and aren't quite ready for that testing but when if you volunteer to be part of the part of this project, um, then you will have uh been given access to the discord channel and then when you go to your wiki tree and choose october fest Then you can see all the chat that's going on there and we will Um, when we're looking for testers and we have something specific that we want you to test out We will post a message here in the discord Um, probably put it in ggg as well or link to one of the other posts that are in ggg um, but uh When we need help we'll ask for it and hopefully all of those you have volunteered. Well Um, and in our next uh live cast next thursday Um, I suspect there will be some apps that will be at the point where we're looking for some uh, some some direct feedback And you can provide that in the comments or you can test things out and then get back to us So i'll have more details for that later But i'm gonna think i'm gonna stop sharing my screen right now and maybe a lesh Do you want to show off some of the stuff that you've done with the browser extension? Hmm. Yeah, okay Um Probably I should first explain or I can do that at the end how to install the New wikid reproser extension because it's not on the Market to google It's not in google store. So you cannot just install it like other extensions, but Well, I can show it now. So, um So first you have to get the extensions extension from the github So you go to github.com slash wiki 3 And here are uh wiki 3 dynamic 3 and browser extension project So you can go into if you select wiki 3 browser extension you can Um, so this is for people who will not program it actually since you only need a copy of the extension So you can click here on the code and click download so it packs Whole extension to a zip file which you unpack on your computer and then you only need to Add it to the to chrome. So in to do that You need to go here in chrome chrome to Extensions Here And first thing you have to do is you have to turn on developer mode And then you get these additional buttons and here you have a function load unpacked And you can select you select the folder where you unpack the extension and that's generally that's basically it So it will uh, this one will show up And you can turn it on or off So this is how to put it on your computer. Now the programmers Are very It's and if you intend to program then you need to Take a make new branch copy it to your computer develop and then you will Occasionally post to the main code Now alish if we're testing the browser as you guys are working on it Do we need to disable all of those other extensions? Well, I was working It's good to disable the other extensions If because it it can be confusing from which extension some function is So you can I I just I did today I disabled all other installed wiki tree extensions and Um So it's only now I only see the new one On the page then after you install the extension first thing you need to do is go to options here and This all these options are initially uh, they're selected. So These are these are already function functionality there that were added to extension and you can Each each of them can be turned on or off depending on What you want. So you have to Slowly turn them on and test them and see if that's what you need Now we can show a few of them Some are hard to find but I did Find quite a few of them. So one is printer friendly bio. So Here we have a new we got a new menu And here you can if you want to print the Bio the profile this is Then it reformats the page slightly and make I make it easier nicer to print on paper. So Because you don't need all the Things that is around you just need the content usually Then a few options were ready are added to the find menu that I found for instance I think this random profile is one of them So it just takes us to the run to a random profile and We can see if some Something needs to be done there or so So this is a common function on wikipedia and so someone programmed it here also Is that a random person on your watch list or just random? It's not on watch the Oh, wow, that's really random Well one of the 30 million Um, then another one, I think is there's the apps category at the top there Yes, this is one, but there is another one. I just drafts I think is a new one. This is this one looks if you have any drafts open. So that is a Profile that profile that you were editing in can't wasn't saved. So this is very useful to Check if you Have some unfinished business on profile writing So I think these two are added here then it's App sub menu where I think all the victory all existing applications are listed So I think I think all of them but this just opens the application, so Is dcr's And it does populate your name in there too Uh-huh. That's good. Yeah, because this is all power. This is all happening in the Wicked three domains. So it's your login is more or less automatic Nice, that's good part of extension and also of the dynamic three. You don't have to log in So these are prepared applications that were Uh, I think all the applications are listed here Then I think in the options. I also saw Space page space page preview. So if you have a space page, let's go to my profile So here is a space page for instance, and it just pops out and you can Uh, you can see the page here without even clicking on it Nice So that's one of the extensions that I noticed And I think there's one that does that for sources too, right? Do you have inline sources and you hover over the the number? I don't know if you have you wouldn't have any sources on your own maybe Probably You know the inline ones that have like they're just a little number in the middle of the bio It doesn't work on Slovenian sources That's probably something I think it has to be the the inline ones not the ones in the sources, but You know what I mean Let's go to There the number three. Yeah, if you hovered over this no up up the three in the middle Okay, a little the number like the number in the square, but there you go All right But I think some of the extension Disabled the preview on the Yes, but I wasn't able to identify which one Okay So that's a bug we have the worst we have to nail down It's a work in progress Okay, and then uh, we have also I also these are Extensions from other people that I was able to identify and Notice what they are doing Um And then also is I have wiki 3 plus extension the my that's mine Which is intended for editing templates and some other stuff So, um, I don't know do we have a template template here? Nope not on this page We can go to For instance, we can go to Uh-huh. Oh, there is another one that I know it's not here Uh-huh. This is a new option. This is also one of the add-ons family timeline Here it said a button is added here and Events in the life of yannis So Um This is a point with extensions they can mask in existing page. So you don't even notice it. It's uh, not part of original page Um Yeah, that that's happened to me on the saturday livecast before I had an extension enabled And uh, it was I think sarah was saying why have you got that button on your page? I don't have that button on my from And at the time I didn't realize I I don't know why it's just there you open that up and it's there Then I forgot. Oh, I turned on this one extension. That's what it came from so we My extension is mainly for editing templates. It has uh, so you can you can Go to a template. So this is category for box for cemeteries And you just go to edit template Um, and it retrieves all the fields also offers all the other fields that exist on the And they're not present in the extensions and you can just fill the data in So we add the space page and now it's here Nice Then Now if you didn't know what the name of the template was but to start with Yes, you you you also have so this This drop down menu is different depending on the page where you are on. So since you are we are now on category page It has a special menu at category info box and you have here all the Uh category info boxes that can be used on categories. So we can add category info box cemetery and you come to the empty forum and fill out the data It also has other goodies. So for instance, um, okay Um, on for instance, we have here find the grave ID So we can click the open link and it opens the find the grave page or in the in another Tap and you can then see if that's correct one and so on and it also it works two ways. So you just for instance copy the copy complete url and Then if you paste here It will just take the part of the url that it needs. So Um, just the number Very smart for wiki data ID. So we can for instance, we will now paste this page Pionic river for instance and just select the other and paste And it pastes the new it works also for space pages categories and every other type of pages So we can have a look of this Category and so it's easy to check all the links. You can also check the location And so Also, this location is adjusted. So it if you take the location from uh wiki data It is always written in such format And you just copy this and You can paste in this field and it will convert it into the correct format for Coordinates on wiki. That's going to be really helpful You can also add images here and so on. So, um, you can also go jump to the template definition here And it is actually this definition Uh, this definition is used from web pages Uh On what is in each template and also description of the end everything. So here on question mark It also writes out What should be done with what should be entered in this field? So this is one way of adding Then you can also Add Okay for on categories edit bot instructions are also Edit automatically so you can rename category to something else I've intended It enters the instruction for the for edit bot on what to do um Then these are other useful templates for uh cemetery like also known as where you can defend different languages It has also drop downs so, um We have here These values are So you can use one of these or you can enter uh, like sweden for in oh sweden is there but That's me It's in spain Yeah French is not oh it is um And you can also you add any template template and you get a Template selector. So here all 500 templates are in You can limit the search to stickers for instance and let's say Quakers Okay, we already have the one that we need or if we don't limit ourselves to stickers we get the project template and the sticker or unsourced Thanks So external links you get all the external links template and so on also the status of the template and the group So this is uh for a time for uh, editing templates. This is uh, so we can So for a find the grave the grave Select we they get the now the box to populate We can see the same as yes. No and these are are deprecated. So they are visually marked as not to use Mm-hmm And it it insert the template to where the cursor is Here also Some okay form format parameters is just to reformat the template if it's If it's ugly And so you can just click format parameters and it lines up everything. So it looks good And this one this automated correction is Is another useful things that Where I programmed everything that edit both does so changes It changes all things history links to the new ones and or actually now to templates since they are available It also changes find the grave links to template and other Removes the con it's on and so on. I mean really a lot of things That's amazing Done. So now if you go to a profile profile So on profiles the drop down Here the selection is slightly different Some options are still here. Some are changed or added Okay, let's see automatic corrections here Okay For it only found multi-spaces and it can change them to single spaces. So Because often there people use two or three spaces But It corrects Quite a few things. I think I have it somewhere written what all that it corrects We also have here options to paste sources. So you just paste the url for instance We have to find the same Some grave new memorials Okay, so we can you can we can copy the url And here we paste the url and it gets reformatted to a template. Wow That is nice We can also So for find the grave I also supported the source citation. So you just copy this citation in and Paste source Paste it in the upper window and in the lower one you get it changed with template instead and so on. So Oh, that's a time saver And so it keeps all the other information, but it just changes that url Yes for well in the past. I also removed the find the grave com They have just the url Now there was some discussion if this is needed. So now I'm leaving it in Sure. Yeah, and those are changes. We've been doing manually Like we've been going I just copy paste And you click select and it pastes where you have the cursor or you can just move it to the location Right So Chris in the chat put in this comment that he should probably get around it putting in the find a grave tags like that So if he's copied this Is already a text that's in his profile Does your Extension reformatted properly if it was if it's already there. No, you know what I mean? Yes, no But you if I know what you mean and it doesn't Actually, if it if it would be from today it would but if it's Few months old it doesn't because the citation Changed over the time but for the url it does Although you are you could just copy it He could he could copy it and then put it inside that Box the pop-up box and then it would convert it. For instance, if you have the just the url like this This might get changed. So let's check it Uh automated corrections and it found Okay Find the grave url It will be changed to template. Well, there you go, right? Let's see. Look at there it is See Chris. How easy that was? There you go. And not just that it changed it. It also added the edit comment Oh my goodness And does and doesn't make a snack too first It brings popcorn. Yes, but you must be in Ljubljana for that Uber Uber eats delivers Wow Okay, so this is I also had here and Here you were able to Start other applications that were Like view of writers and so on But probably now this will be removed since they will all get integrated here most likely Right Now when it has a question real quick, she's asking when are these extensions going to be part of wiki tree proper? Ah Well havin and that's a good question Well, I think the the plan is so October first lasts for all of october and I believe at the end of october Um, there will be a grand reveal. The dynamic tree is going to go live And whether that's the very end of october halloween or it may actually be something that's revealed on wiki tree day In november 5th, I believe it is right 4th and 5th So and then the as for the browser extension, I'm not sure if that's following the same timeline or not I suspect it probably is not because With the extension. It's a problem with publishing you have to publish it And then google takes a few days to verify it and later it gets published not Instantly so it will probably take a little bit longer So we're at the mercy of an external force for the extension that Yes, well, we can be we can be grateful for that because that way there are no Uh hacks in the extensions so we can be pretty much safe with them, right? There we go Excellent. Thank you. Jamie. Yeah, Jamie's been in the chat all this long and she's been helping and correcting things I've noticed um, so for example, I think I credit the wrong person with um The on and toffle table. I think I may have said it was Steve, but apparently that was brian. Sorry brian Um, but steve is his joined us and he said he has merged the profile timeline of the chronology chart Into the extension Um into the dynamic tree So I was showing you a preview or a pre preview of it that he had been working on like a draft version Um, so steve you might steven. You're probably working on this while I was demonstrating that so, um Uh, so I did show them that that work that you had done and now it's going to be part of the other Uh, and we had discovered that it was inline sources That um that has that that preview. So thank you for that Um, and you know what? I was going to show one more thing. Let me just get this. Uh, there we go. Um, So there's been a number. I was saying we're only six days into octoberfest but we already have a lot of people who have done stuff and so Uh At noon and this might this might be more at noon These are the people who have actually contributed to contributed and published some of the work that they've already done So on the extensions, uh, lesh obviously showed you all the amazing stuff that he's done with the extension Jamie No, no, no, well Yes, that's right. That's right. But you added it to the extension this week So, you know, like take the credit Steve Harris has also worked on some of the extension part and either call has also been working on that He's been adding someone from his uh, b extension into, um, the browser extension and the dynamic views I put my picture up there. I've already told you might end charges so ugly. It's hardly worth the picture. Anyways, um But brian who's sort of the tech lead on that has been doing a bunch of stuff Um, a lot of stuff in the background there Stephen Harris as has just mentioned. He's just added some of those the profile The the timelines the chronology Jeff Riley has has contributed and michael vachute has also been doing some work And his stuff a lot of the work he's been done is sort of in the background in some of the formatting and Tightening up some of the code refactoring is the official word for some of the stuff that he's been doing Which benefits us all So and there are other programmers that have also been working on the background Doing some some coding and some reviewing K night who's online here has been doing some of that and uh, and others so And in the coming weeks, I hope to uh profile some of these other Uh developers ideally entice some of them to come and join us online And um be part of this live cast So, uh, you know, I just have to find the right Screen again so I can turn off my screen sharing. Oh, look at that. That looks pretty So, uh, anyways lots of good stuff has been happening and as I say It's only six days into october fest and already some things are coming together And you can sort of see the potential of some of the others. So Yeah, that's pretty cool Mindy, do you have any thoughts about what you see is or some things that you're thinking are missing or What you'd like to see missing but they did raise a good question as far as How do we ask for features that we would like to see added? Is that going to be in the g2g or I think the g2g is like if they're not already a member of the october If they haven't registered if they're not one of the testers then yeah anyone's welcome to um to the poll any the posts the october fest g2g posts Either the original one or even you could you could add a comment to the uh the video Livecast video post that I made a couple days ago On any of those ones that have october fest uh tag on it. Um, if you have Features or questions or comments. Yeah And then do all of these other extensions go away You know, we currently have a number of extensions that we can use and individual help pages for that But now if it's all going to be put together Do we just have one big help page? That's an excellent question. I'm not sure the logistics of how that's going to work especially since the browser extensions are well Not having programmed apps and not a browser extension to me. They seem a little bit There's a little more deep magic involved in those so um, I think that'll be more difficult combining all them together. So I I don't know there's also, um The apps themselves like some of the apps lend themselves nicely to a dynamic view because they're Basically a view of your your tree your ancestors your descendants or your family, but there are some apps like Like like the confer the dna confirmation app for example that uses that's used to put together a dna source citation It's not really a family view um I'm not sure if it would fit in an extension Because it opens up a whole new page. You have to fill out a bunch of stuff So there's there's still some apps that um and the k nights bio check um App again is another one of those that i'm not sure where they where they land if there's a third A third place where apps that work alongside with each It would be best fits to the edit page because there is where you need it The edit page. Yeah So Open the dialogue like I do for for for Templates and fill in the data and paste the code back to the Edit box That would be the best place I think about that one. Okay So well all editing correlating related things should go on edit page I mean it is possible. It just needs to be done Okay Good good point. Yes. Okay. Um Davenport had made a comment there. What was it? Uh I I just missed it now. Oh I know what it was. You were talking about changing the spaces And never said took me years to break. I still hit do spaces after every I cannot stop myself Um, so I need that extension Well, you can install also it you can install it today from the store. It's still a big three plus The functionality is for now the same but it will get slightly changed. I think during the month It's okay has a suggestion there that the end user documentation. I mean that's important too so that It's it makes it's it's accurate but also makes sense to non programmers so, um wiki triggers New wiki triggers and you know can make sense of it as well. So Well, yeah, it is all about collaboration. So there's there's somewhere that the testers can get in there and help you out with Exactly Exactly Well, thank you very much for coming. Um Any last words that we're at the hour mark now. So, um, I wasn't sure where we could stretch it out, but I should have known There's so much I mean, I'm I'm really excited I really am excited because I love these extensions that I already use and now you guys are it's like you're giving us presents We get even more I mean, he was talking called the time so I just I just carried on and on and on Actually Oh, well, well, thank you. Come back and see us next week everybody See us next week and I'll give you updates on what's been happening. What's been improved and probably then we'll have some questions for you on You know, where we've got this far with this with this Dynamic view or done this with the at this extension and what should we go? Where do we go next and that sort of thing? So that'll be exciting So See you next week