 Thank you. You know Punjabi also? No sir. Yes sir, I understand little bit, I am not that fluent when it comes to this. Your father is working in the SNL? Yes sir. SNL is good? Sir, actually not so good, in fact it is suffering losses of about... Sir, I feel that with increased attention of government to BSNL in terms of budget and commercial flexibility, like currently BSNL is rolling out 4G, so I feel that we can be optimistic about it. And provided the HR policy is a little more robust, so we can be optimistic. Sir, I feel that BSNL has some added advantages in terms of defence and security as well as last mile delivery of socio-economic benefits. Because BSNL has very robust network of optical fibre cable which is about 7 lakh kilometres, 66,000 telecom towers and a very popular broadband. And since it is a PSU, the main motive is public service. So we can capitalise on that and ensure that the basic crux, that is the digital divide, it is bridged. At the same time an emerging issue of cyber security is also covered. Sir, I feel that telecom is a strategic sector. So presence of at least one PSU would be in the betterment of the government and the economy as well as the national security. The PSUs, like private sector PSUs, main purpose is about profit now. It is not source is providing some fees and all. So coming in mind that it should be profitable. Otherwise, let it go to the devil's eye. So profitable, yes, because we need revenue to provide services. But the main motive should be using that profit to ensure the adequate quality and timely service delivery, which I feel that BSNL can do. Quality will go for quality of service and timely services. Sir, at present, yes, but I feel that if certain reforms are made, then BSNL has certain inherent strengths. So death row syndrome is a mental disorder which often gets induced in the death row convicts. And it is the symptoms include hallucination, extreme sensitivity, self-mutilation. Theoretical. Yes, sir. And so the main cause is the inordinate and unexplained delay in the execution of the sentence. On the part of the state compounded by the prison conditions and especially the misuse of solitary confinement. So the Supreme Court very recently held that this mental disorder is a ground of commutation of death sentence to life imprisonment. You have found out this landscape photography also. Do we order from one photographic day? No, sir. What photographic day? I don't know, sir. It was yesterday. It was yesterday. Okay. Gujarat High Court has state some provisions of one legislation which was enacted. Sir, interfaith marriages. Yes, sir. I have partial knowledge about it. There was a legislation which said that interfaith marriages are the tool for forceful conversion. And this was putting a ban on that. So the Gujarat High Court state this legislation. And yesterday, I think yesterday, they were talking about the arrangement of arrests. Yeah. If lapul, arrest can be done. But it is not mandatory. Some provision of CRPC. Let's go to 170. Sorry, sir. I am unable to recall. In the last three decades, there has been a lot of judicial activity. In what? In all areas there has been good improvement because of Supreme Court regulations. So very recently the vaccination policy is a major breakthrough in which judicial intervention helped a lot. And so apart from that also there have been cases where on migrants issue also recently the Supreme Court has asked the executive to make sure that the migrants, they receive quick registration because for all the benefits registration is compulsory. So these two are the very easy. What three decades? 90s to? Sir, decriminalization of homosexuality, decriminalization of adultery. And so apart from that, sir custodial violence also, DK Basu versus state of West Bengal. And so recently also there was an order about compulsory CCTV cameras in the prisons. This year itself, yes. Even empowerment. Empowerment, yes. Yes, sir. Permanent commission. NDA. Yes, sir. Then environmental sector. Yes. Life life. Life life and life. Yes, sir. Just to put us on this as you know. The optional is also law. Yes, sir. From very basics. What is rule of law? The rule of law in the simplest terms is rule based on the principle of law and not on the wishes of men. The governance guided by law. You mean equality before law? Yes, sir. And what is rule by law? Sir, using law to govern. So using, sir in that basically in which the man or the authority uses law for achieving his or her ends irrespective of taking to the principles of equality or justice. Now what is happening in Pakistan? Do you know what law they are going to follow? Sharia law. Yes. So that is rule by law or rule of law? The rule by law. And in Pakistan? Sir, I am not aware of the legal system. The combination of both. They have a constitution. They have a rule of law you can say. But they also have Sharia law. Certain things on which they go. You must be keeping track of Indian economy. What has been the GDP growth? Sir, last year our GDP growth contracted by 7.7%. And currently the forecast for this financial year is about 9.5% by the RBI. Anything by IFR? Sir, 9.5%. The RBI is following payment. No sir, RBI has its own. What are the other things RBI has said? Apart from growth, is it something about the status of the economy? So inflation. So for that inflation target is set about 5.7%. No, it is a pinch in inflation. In recent months. They said something wrong. It costs for only RBI. The RBI said that it is transitory. So as the economy starts unlocking and as the vaccination progresses, the inflation will be student. What is monetization? The monetization of deficit. No, the general concept. You have monetization of gold. That is not accepted. So what is monetization? Say gold monetization. The conversion of that commodity into money. So monetization means giving money value to any asset. When you withdraw the money value, then what is it called? The demonetization. Did we achieve the purpose for which it was done? So unfortunately the main objective was not achieved but there were several collateral benefits. What was the main objective? The main objectives were curbing black money, terror financing and counterfeit currency. So we did not achieve any of them in any measure? So we did. For instance the target of destroying black money was about Rs. 2 lakh crore. Unfortunately as per the estimates we were able to destroy only Rs. 10,000 crore. But there were several collateral benefits to demonetization. Now what is gender projecting? We have a concept of gender projecting. What is that? Sir, allocation of the budget towards gender progression. For instance either directly schemes that directly affect women or indirectly affect women. So keeping gender empowerment in mind. Can you give what I told you? This is exclusively meant for this. Sorry sir, I am not able to think of it. Sir, that fund was created to ensure women's safety after the heinous crime in 2012. And it was created in 2013. And it provides for various women's safety initiatives such as swadhar, greha and shelter homes. And apart from that I feel that other schemes related to women empowerment are also funded from Nirbaya fund. I am not sure sir. Last question. For promotions should we go by seniority or merit? Sir, I feel it should be a combination of both. Although merit should be the primary criteria. Sir, it depends on the organization or what are the existing rules. But based on that merit should be the criteria. There is some controversy in the armed forces side. In this paper you have seen it is a debate. Thank you. Thank you sir. Okay. What are the latest in gender parity in army? Sir, recently Supreme Court has passed an interim order ordering the armed forces to allow women also to give NDA examination. Yes sir. How do you see gender parity in the armed forces in general? Sir, in general the Air Force and Navy have been very progressive from the very beginning. However, there was some hesitancy when it came to army. So last year with permanent commission of women being allowed by armed forces Supreme Court. There that was the first major step. Women in armed forces, permanent commission is so many dots where we can connect. And now we come to the state. Press history of women in Indian armed forces. Sir, I have limited understanding if I may try. Sir, initially during the British rule as well there were women in the armed forces serving as nurses. And progressively even after independence there was a lot of hesitancy. But I feel the Indian Air Force was the first branch to offer permanent commission to women. And otherwise there was a short service commission which was about 14 years. And even today despite the permanent commission in all the three branches of the military. Women are not allowed in combat roles yet. So that is remaining. Sir, in the judgement on permanent commission Supreme Court did not allow combat roles initially. So I think it is being deliberated upon but there is no ruling on it. At women's entry, women entry in the armed forces, Navy, Air Force and Army. Which comes to your mind? Is it the great accomplishment women in armed forces achieve anything? Sir, I am aware of the women contingent in the peacekeeping forces. India was the first country to do so which was I think a very good thing. Not just for the national but also for international governance. And so apart from that I believe there was a naval expedition by the all women group. So how do you see third wave of pandemic? Are we already in third wave or it may not come? Sir, while many experts are divided as to when the third wave will begin. For instance according to some it has already begun and it will peak in October. But there is a unison of opinion that third wave is inevitable. However its severity depends on our vaccination and also the protocols that we have to follow the code of appropriate behaviour. But according to the experts these waves would be recurring and since the virus is here to stay. So their impact depends on our preparedness and how sincerely we take all the measures. Why do we require lawyers? I am sorry. Why do we require lawyers in the society? You see judges that two parties goes with some problem. Judge himself can decide right based on the facts and the thinking. Why do we require lawyers? Sir, I feel that the lawyer acts a bridge between the litigant and the judge. And if we go by the simplest meaning a lawyer is the assistant of the court. So for instance a litigate may not be that literate when it comes to legal aspects. And in India especially where we follow adversarial system. There the judge is a neutral umpire and the lawyer assists the judges in reaching the decision in a fair manner. So I feel that lawyer is an important link in our justice system. What is adversarial system? Sir, in adversarial system the judge is a neutral umpire and the trial or the proceedings it is being led by the respective lawyers of the parties. That is either in the criminal case it is prosecution and defence. And based on the findings the judge pronounces. The government believes that he has talked about non-adversarial approach to following issues. Can you think of any of the instances where no one has interviewed? Sir, for instance under the family law in the family courts legal representatives are not allowed. In that the parties they only approach the court and there is no lawyer in between. Sorry sir, I am not able to drink. I have decided to go to some place in Palestine. My choice is Jaipur and Udaypur. How would you convince me to come to Udaypur? Sir Udaypur is the city of lakes. And apart from a rich natural heritage it is also very famous for its cultural heritage with a very vibrant culture which is very diverse. What is special about Udaypur? Sir, I think the most striking feature about Udaypur is the town planning. Because over the period of 400 years the different Maharanas of Udaypur they have contributed to the entire planning of Udaypur. For instance in my area which is Girwa. There the eight lakes they are interconnected and it is also believed that it is one of the first instance of river water interlinking in the entire world. So it is a very fascinating feature. So apart from that there is also a place called Shilgram which is a rural art and craft complex in which you will find artists from various places not just Udaypur but also from different regions of Rajasthan including Jaipur. So I feel that Udaypur is like all in one package when it comes to the culture of Rajasthan. Supreme Court made some appointments yesterday. Can you tell me about them? Yes sir, Supreme Court has currently a vacancy of 9 judges out of a total sanctioned strength of 34. So the Kaleejim recommended the names of 9 judges out of which 4 are women. Is there an opportunism in judiciary? Sir, the opinion is divided on it. So if you take largely the major high court and Supreme Court are controlled by certain families or certain houses from which judges keep coming? Sir, I feel that it is more of the case of merit and the appointment system although it is not that transparent but it ensures that merit is given. So there is no case for an opportunism? Sir, there might be instances but it is not 2-1 yet. So I feel that merit is given priority and even if we take instances of the judges who belong to the same family for instance Justice Chandrachud. So I feel that merit must have been the priority in his appointment because of his impeccable tenure. You talked about death row syndrome. Have you heard of something called a stop-on syndrome? Sir, I think I have heard the name but I am not aware of it exactly. Retributive justice versus reformative justice? Sir, retributive justice is where the intention of the punishment is to met out the same suffering that the perpetrator met it out against the victim. So it is like an eye for an eye. On the other hand, reformative justice is based on the principle that there is a scope of reform of the criminal and he or she should be given another chance. So in that punishments like community service, open prisons etc. are given. Can it be some important reforms that should be made in the criminal law? Yes, sir. Sir, I feel that a few major reforms could be firstly the sentencing policy itself. Although a reformatory approach cannot be used in all the crimes but an option could be given to the judges. So since right now the punishments are only retributed, so sentencing policy could be amended. Secondly, there is a few places where there is a lot of ambiguity. For instance, the definition of sedition or for the difference between culpable homicide and murder. So there also a lot of scope of narrowing down the definition is required. Apart from that, sir, there is judicial pendency. There are police reforms that are pending, prison reforms that are pending. So I feel these could be the initial points of reforms. Sir, in this I was arguing whether judges should be using social media because there is the friends in terms of social media may not be friends in real terms. However, there is a real likelihood of bias in case any party is in the friend list of the judge. So my conclusion was that being the citizens of India, the judges are entitled to their opinion and entitled to use these services. However, just like in offline mode, there is a code of conduct for the judges. For online also there should be a code of conduct for the judges and I made a few suggestions in that. What do you think about live telecast of trials which is already done in a lot of countries? Sir, I feel it is a very forward looking step as it brings the judges closer to the public and it also makes the entire procedure very transparent. For instance, sir, I have been to Supreme Court on my internship and it was very difficult to locate the courts and see all the hearings, especially if various important matters were going on simultaneously. So I feel with this, it will be easier to access justice and be legally aware of what is happening in the country. How is it different from let's say portrait or regular photography? Sir, the essence of landscape photography is capturing the outdoors. So for instance, portrait is when I click a picture of a person. So that is portrait, but landscape could be different things such as mountains, lakes, architecture, etc. What are the differences in settings or equipment which is used for landscape versus urban? Sir, basically there is a concept of exposure triangle in photography which includes ISO and shutter speed and aperture. So for landscape, since the view is a little larger, so focus is also needed to be bigger. So there the aperture is narrower so that the depth of field is more. So in that case what happens? In portrait, we see that apart from the subject, the background gets blurred. But in landscape, we need a sharp image. So in there, these are the settings which need to be. Can you name some prominent landscape photography? Sir, I am really inspired by Ashok Dilwali and Ansel Adams.