 All right. Pursuant to Chapter 20 of the Act of 2021, this meeting will be conducted by a remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner. By emailing Steve McCarthy at McCarthyS at AmherstMA.gov. That's M-C-C-A-R-T-H-Y-S at AmherstMA.gov. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted. But every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts, we will post on the Amherst website an audio or video recording transcript or other comprehensive record of proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. And with that done, we'll call the meeting to order at 5.03 p.m. and take a roll call of attendance. Doug. I'm here. Hallie. Here. Gaston. Here. I am here. And we're just waiting for Dylan. So four here and one absent. Next up is public comment. And this is general public comment unrelated to anything on the agenda. Does anyone have anything, any public comment of that type? If so, raise your hand by hitting the raise hand button at the bottom of your screen. And no public comment. Okay. So we can go right into licenses. A, special short-term looking licenses, SST dash 23 dash 15. Jake, I hope I'm saying this right. Is it Mazar or Mazar heartbeat collective, February 11th, 6 p.m. to 12 a.m. 383 Main Street and the manager is Stephanie Gibbs. And this one has, so this is being held at the rest of the restaurant, but it involves the nonprofit called the heartbeat collective. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right. Hi, this is Jake. Hi. Oh, hi, Jake. Welcome. And just if I may clarify, this is not technically a restaurant. It was a restaurant and it's configured as such, but I think they usually use it as just a catering base of operation. Is that correct, Jake? Yeah, that's right. So we're a catering company. We have a 12 C liquor license and we do a lot of wedding catering is mostly what we do. Some in Amherst put a lot in towns around, not in Amherst. And so yeah, it's the former lumberyard restaurant, but for us it's the base of operations for our catering company. And we don't frequently use it for our own events, but we're hoping to do one in a week and a half. Okay. Thank you. Did everyone have a chance to look over the statement about the relationship between the heartbeat collective and the catering company and also the, I think there's a nonprofit statement and the liquor license itself. So if you haven't, I think Steve sent something just before the meeting, a statement about the relationship between the two. So if anyone has any questions. Well, I said that question. So it said, any funds are gonna go to the heartbeat collective or you can have a cash bar or is there a ticket to get in the door or how is it gonna run? Yeah, it's gonna be a cash bar and then we'll donate profits from the buying. I don't know how busy it'll be, but we'll donate some profits to the heartbeat collective. But it'll be a cash bar, no door cover charge or anything like that. Okay. But Gaston, go ahead. I think- I'm just concerned with the syntax you just used. You said that you're gonna donate some of the profits. I mean, my understanding is that to get the full alcohol license, it really should be the nonprofit in charge and putting up the cash unless somebody's donating the cash for the liquor and then they receive 100% of the proceeds. So I don't know if that's what you contemplate. Oh, I meant to say we're donating 100% of the profits. I wanna cover the cost of having our staff and the cost of actually buying the alcohol but anything above and beyond that which hopefully we have something will be donated all of that, all of the additional, the actual profit of the event will be donated to the heartbeat collective. Thank you. Thank you, Jake. I wonder as a matter of formality, if you could basically, and I think it might actually be to your tax benefit to register a donation to the nonprofit of the amounts that you spend on the alcohol and paying your staff. So in other words, you're making that donation to them and then they receive the cash, then the money never goes through you after that. You follow me? But then you're saying we would donate the alcohol and the labor for the event? Right, that's a donation, then it's a tax deductible donation and then they just get 100% of the proceeds. Well, we were hoping to break even on the, we were hoping to break even and not lose money on the event. Yeah, and you're kind of putting us in a tough spot because I mean, it wouldn't be a problem if it's just a beer and wine event. So I mean, I guess the nonprofit could pay the staff, I assume they could pay the staff for it and that way it all goes through them and not, it's not through us, but they're the ones kind of covering that end of it. So it's, our staff are the ones that have the tip certifications and all that. So I wouldn't want to have random bartenders there who aren't trained, but I think we could work it out that way if that makes it easier to get the all liquor. Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit like a Islamic finance. You kind of go through these hoops to, so that's formally there's no interest or something like that. I think if you could, if they can pay, if they can be on the hook for the staff and then I guess you're saying maybe you donate the alcohol, but then basically they keep the difference between proceeds and staff, that seems to check out for me. Does that work for everybody else? Doug? Yeah. Yeah, Dylan? Sound okay? That's good to me. Yeah, so is there anything else we need to add to this to do that? Or is that just that's on their side or anything Steve that we'd have to change? So I guess just to clarify, I guess on your suggesting that, and to be clear, the wheelhouse farm is not a party at all in this. Jake Mazar as an individual is. Right. So I guess, can you clarify what exactly you're suggesting guests on so I can put it in the record here? I guess the first thing is just that for the economics Jake is, are you comfortable basically donating the liquor as long as your staff is covered? Does that work for the vision you had? Well, we're also selling food and stuff too. So are you saying we should donate the food? Just keep the food separate. You deal with the food however you want. Yeah, I mean, sure. We can donate the alcohol if that's... I mean, they can, the nonprofit can also pay for the alcohol. It's just the matter of basically the, they get the payments. That's the, if you can set it up so that they get 100% of the proceeds minus whatever they're on the hook for, then I think we're in the clear. Okay, yeah, we can do that. And the food's totally separate though. We could run the food, that's just through us, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well Jake, the alcohol goes through you as an individual. So you personally will have to get it from the wholesaler and then return whatever excess is. It has to, it can't go through the 12C or anything else like that. It has to go through you as an individual. Does that make sense? And then the food, whatever, the food is not really a question here. You can do whatever you want with that. Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, and I already have the relationships with the wholesalers, but I guess, yeah, I just have to, yeah, I send them the one-day license and say we're purchasing this using the one-day license, not using the 12C. Exactly, yeah. Okay. All right, great, thank you. Any other questions? Okay, if not, is there a motion to approve special short-term liquor license, SST-23-15? So moved. Thank you, Doug. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dylan. Any further discussion? If not, we'll take a vote. Kelly. Hi. Gaston. Hi. Dylan. Hi. Doug. Hi. And I vote aye. That is five to zero and the license has been approved. Thank you very much for coming in and best of luck with your event. Thanks, thanks for your help talking that through and figuring it out. Appreciate it. Okay, bye-bye. Thanks, bye. Okay, so the next up is two common victualer, victualer's license renewal applications. Keeney's nutrition and what is this one? Hold on. And, oh, insomnia cookies. That is house of teriyaki. Oh, that's house of teriyaki. Okay. And then insomnia cookies. Is anyone here to talk about these? Are there any questions or we're just renewing them? These are just straight renewals, so I don't know if any are coming. Okay. So if no one has any questions about these, done. Can you repeat again? I'm looking at the agenda and I'm seeing Keeney's nutrition is doing business case. Oh, yeah. And I'm not seeing house of teriyaki at all. Oh, you know what? I wasn't looking at the agenda. That's going to be in the next one. House of teriyaki. So who is, what is case? It's down to... Is that that? That came in the initial application for that was just a couple of months ago. It's your spirit house, right? Or that across the street. Near that. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. In that complex. Oh, it's that place. I don't know if they've even opened yet, but he did get a common Vic. Maybe like October. Right. He was younger. Okay. This is that smoothie thing, right? Yeah. Okay, all right. Okay. So is there a motion to approve two common visual errors? Yes, Doug, thank you. I'll move to approve Keeney's nutrition doing business as case and big cameras in the operators LLC doing business as insomnia cookies where the renewal of their common victual or license. Great. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dylan. Is there any further discussion? If not, we'll take a vote. Hallie. Aye. Dylan. Aye. Destin. Aye. Doug. Aye. And I vote aye, five to zero. The licenses have been renewed. Great. Okay. So on to discussion items. So last, so who was, so Hallie was not here and Doug was not here. Doug was not here. And so BYOB came up and Steve has sent around a copy of our current BYOB regulations. And Steve, you said somebody wanted to... Yeah. So this was mentioned to me by Arthur Haskins who works at WD Cole's and Mill District up there. And he looks like he is here. So I will bring him in, but he had some comments he wanted to make to the board about the current BYOB regulations. Okay. Great. Welcome, Mr. Haskins. Thank you. Can you hear me okay? Yep. Great. Thank you. My name's Arthur Haskins. As Stephen mentioned in the introduction, I work for WD Cole's. I'm managing the recent development efforts within the Mill District and North Square at the Mill District Development. Today, I'm joining to make that request related to the current BYOB regulations. I speak on behalf of our Mill District businesses, specifically Cisco's Cafe at 68 Coles Road. Cisco's recently went through the BYOB approval process with the initial application just recently in November of 2022, holding a common vitrular's license and formerly permitted by this board to conduct the BYOB at Cisco's Cafe. It's been going really well. So today, Francisco and the Mill District would like to further Cisco's growing partnership with our other tenant provisions line at the Mill District at 113 Coles Road to cross promote both posts. In essence, they're looking to extend. So currently the hours permitted by the BYOB regulations begin at 12 noon and end at 11 PM. We'd like to request the addition of some morning hours so that the BYOB is made permissible between 9 AM and 11 PM. For overall Amherst economic development, other businesses with formal BYOB licensing may see an opportunity to extend their own morning hours and offerings. This change could potentially cater to our community third shift folks. And in addition, I learned just this afternoon that our Amherst bid put forth their own support too for this proposed change. Speaking with Gabrielle Gould this afternoon and the bid endorses this specific policy change request. I should further mention that Francisco Perez, the owner, is also contemplating an eventual full liquor license similar to what our previous tenant jigs at the Mill had of this address. But before going through that further steps, the expense for additional staff tip certifications and insurance coverages, Francisco would like to start with trying the BYOB promotion with provisions during some morning hours so long as this board would potentially permit this BYOB regulatory change. No other changes whatsoever are proposed to the existing BYOB regulation or SISTOS existing and approved management plan approved back in November. Okay. Thank you. So what was the morning day? That was 9 AM. That's right. So today it's from noon to 11 PM. Right. And we had a brunch promotion. We were bouncing around that made us realize that that's not permissible as it stands today. So in order to do things where they're cross promoting the provisions, I should mention today, provisions is at 113 Poles Road, that barn style building at the Mill District. We're in the midst of the approval process to move provisions wine across the village green to go into the North Square development building at 75 Poles Road, which would place them directly across the road from SISTOS. So it seems like a natural tie together for the two businesses to try to promote this together. And so that's what prompted this request. Okay. So the idea is that they would go to provisions by a bottle of something at say 930 and then walk back across to SISTOS, sit down and have brunch. Is that the idea? That is the idea. Yes. Okay. Great. Any other questions? Any, yes, Gaston. I just wanted to make sure that apart from the time, everything else in the BYOB regulation works for you. Entirely, that's correct. We've reviewed the entire regulation again before this meeting. And the only thing that we're requesting is just the additional morning hours. So what does everybody think? I missed the fact, is it for every day or is it a particular day of the week? Oh yeah, good point. We didn't want to limit ourselves today. It was started with a brunch promotional, but SISTOS is closed Monday that present and he's very new. So he's still adjusting and making slight changes to his own business unrelated in regard to hours and such as he perceives and gets the lay of the land as far as the customer and the timing. So he didn't want to limit. So we're hoping to just do a overall addition of morning hours to the BYOB regulation if possible. Yeah. And just want to confirm that while it's natural for your guests to purchase right there next door, you're open to whatever booze they may bring. That's right. So long as it complies with BYOB regulation and also SISTOS current plan, which very much aligns with that as you had approved in November. Thanks, Kelly. Two comments. I personally feel very comfortable amending our regulations, maybe to match what the regulations are for alcohol being served in sold in restaurants. I feel like that might be a fair compromise. And maybe since provisions will be having hard alcohol soon, could at least just there be some sort of notice posted there and it's just goes about what is allowed for BYOB just so that there's no confusion for customers. Yes. We've actually began with posting some of the more basic FAQ style BYOB regulations for the general public as they walk through the door. And in addition, per our management plan with SISTOS, a full copy of the full management plan pages related to the BYOB policy is right next to the register readily available as well. That explains the malt and wine products that are permissible and explains what is not. Wonderful. So is that, Steve? I don't, nevermind. Any other questions about this? Do you wanna think about this for a little bit? Yes, Doug? So I would just say I'm looking at the regs. We have it from noon to 11. I think the intention behind that noon to 11 is we were thinking, well, we want it to be with a meal, which we require essentially in the second full of the sort of particulars of the general regulations. So I think that brunch is a natural extension, I think. So to the morning hours, I don't know that I would necessarily wanna go much later than 11 at this point, but I think certainly adding the morning hours seems reasonable to me. And again, you know, because I think if we go to the full liquor license allowable hours, if we potentially start on this 8 a.m. to like 1 or 2 a.m., which is maybe a bit broader than we should for BYOB, I think it can be a little more constrained personally, but I could be convinced otherwise too, but I don't see the extension into the morning being problematic given the other parts of the regulation we have. Okay, great. Dylan, do you have any opinions on it? Yeah, I mean, I think I kind of agree with Doug. I guess my only caveat on that would just be 10.30 rather than 11, just for that reason of, you know, making it that someone can come in just a couple of minutes before 11 without skirting it. But I think the reasoning is pretty sound. I think the idea of BYOB to 1 a.m. is maybe a little excessive as well. So I have to get colds in the other direction. So I'm flying if we're, I was gonna say, I'm flying if we're the uncool town that just won't let people bring their own beers to a 9 a.m. breakfast. Okay, so what do we do? So Steve, would we vote on this now? Do we need to announce it to the public? Yeah, I think we would probably want to notice it as amendments to the BYOB regulations so we can maybe have a red line version stating what those changes would be. Okay, all right. So we should probably look. I mean, Hallie, if I was taking your point, I mean, I don't, I think Sunday you can't serve alcohol before 10, I think, right? I believe that's what it is. Yeah, so maybe we would. So we wouldn't want to make BYOB before actual liquor licenses. So maybe we can, so the 16th, I think we will have a pretty tight agenda but we could put it on there as another discussion item and maybe have a red line draft and go over maybe then on March 2nd, we could have a vote for approval or a vote for it to change the regulations. Does that sound good to everybody? Done. Hey, I think it sounds good. I think the other thing, just as far as sort of getting information out is, Steve, if you could reach out to those common vix that have the BYOB sort of addition to their CV so that, because they're particularly going to be interested in knowing this, I think, because it may be helpful or harmful, they may have opinions about it. So those would be folks I'd be interested that we directly contact the email or something like that just so they're aware. They may all ignore it. It's be like, great, I'll start at 10 or 9.30 or whatever we decide is the start time that makes sense and or if we have to get a little more nuanced to avoid, like we decide 9 a.m. is okay, then we have to like put in language around Sunday or something like that, but. Yeah, I guess I was looking down at the minutes. Was there a consensus about what times we would be using for a red line draft or is this something maybe we can talk about again at the next? I think what we were interested in, as far as I recall, putting it in line with the current liquor license holders for restaurants, which seems, I think, all right, fine to me. Dylan said maybe 10.30 at night instead of 11, but why don't you just match it up to the current liquor license holders? Does that sound good to everybody? Well, there's a, it depends on the individual license. I mean, the maximum would be. Oh, I mean, like the, you know, the brunch for what we did for the kind of the brunch law, not until one in the morning, but until, yeah, right? Yeah. The food service thing? Yeah, the food service thing. Yeah. Okay. And then that'd be, I think that's, we can look at it as for at night and then what about in the morning? I guess we can stew on this and come back. Yeah. I'll give you guys those figures and we can discuss it again at the next meeting. Okay, that sounds good. Sounds great. Thank you. Any other questions, Mr. Haskins? No, thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. All right, super. Thank you so much for coming in. And so we'll look forward to that. And next up is rental registration. Last, at our last meeting, Mandy Johanicki was here and we went through all of the things that she was and asked us questions, what she was looking for for the next iteration of rental regs. She said she would send us the most recent draft that they had, but I haven't received one. I guess, Don, have you gotten anything from her since our last meeting? Yeah, no. But I think we were kind of got some clarification and especially about the appeals process, which I thought was really interesting. So, because, and there was some sort of thing where we would be taking and Gus and you brought this up that we'd be getting our information from Rob Mara and then he would potentially issue the violation or the try to pull away the rental license and then they would appeal to us and we would have to go to Rob Mara. So it was sort of a potentially interesting situation which might never happen. But I think we've accepted or inclined to accept the sort of ceremonial office of the rental appeals board as it may be. And they are going to be, Mandy said, they have the, what was the name of it again? It's the little board they created under the select board which was never staffed. And they are going to, they're going to staff it now and I don't, we'll see how it goes. So any questions about this? And we're just, we'll just wait for Mandy's, the CRC is current draft and then we can go into it. And they are looking to have the regs sent up to the town council. I think in March, was that right? She said at the earliest, we'll see how it goes. So yes, Doug. This is a reminder. I think we got to initially involved in this because we're talking about short-term rentals for like Airbnb that, so this is still inclusive of that concept of those businesses and trying to bring some frame of reference onto those and some oversight so that they're operating in the same or similar fashion to longer-term rentals and that sort of thing I presume. Right. Yeah. And they also, I think we're also going to be in charge of, so the other thing is that the town council is going to decide and set the fees and the regulations and then they're going to turn them over to us and we are going to have the power to change them apparently as we see fit. And I did ask her, we won't need town council approval to change them. We just, and apparently we're going to have, do the fee setting and be in charge of the fees because we have been in charge of setting fees and seem to be more comfortable with doing that. So there, so that's what's going on. Is there anything else I missed, Steve or Deston or Dylan? No, okay. Great, so police enforcement. We also had Chief Livingstone and because we had the ABCC coming through town recently and he was surprised. He said in the past in a piece, apparently there may have been a staff change at the ABCC. They said, apparently they had a very close relationship. He said they didn't call it enforcement. He said it's compliance checks and the ABCC would let the police know that they were coming in. They would go around to different places and make sure that there wasn't compliance. They wouldn't just hit one place. They would go to everybody to make sure that nobody was targeted. And that seemed to work pretty well for them. He is not sure what has happened and he is going to reach out to the ABCC and see if he can figure out what's going on. But yes. I'm just curious and I'm sorry I missed the last meeting but did he express some concern about the change in how the ABCC is operating? Did that cause him some pause relative to the operation? I mean, certainly a heads up that they're in town would be helpful just so- Yeah. For purposes. I mean, also just it sounds like the operationally are functioning a little differently. Did he have concerns about that? I think he was well. Yeah, he was a little uncertain about the whole thing. I think in the past he said that because they're usually ABCC people are in, they're in plain clothes and they would go in with an officer because he said the situation could become, could escalate very quickly if an ABCC person went in and said, you know, I'm writing you this ticket for a violation or I'm taking the report. And so he was concerned about everyone's safety, I think. Yeah, that was- To that point, I think that was some of the report we read of, I think it was at Hazel's Puddle Lagoon. Yes. There was a bit of conflict between the producer and the ABC officer because they're like, who the heck are you? Exactly. And I think that sort of bolsters the statement that the chief made relative to that. So- Right, so he's gonna go try to figure out what is going on. And I don't know if he's going to get back to us. Steve, do you remember? Chief Livingstone? Yeah, I think maybe we could like see, check in with him at some point. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'll check in with him. Okay. And I can certainly get an update. So it was interesting to hear how they had operated in the past with the ABCC because it is very different from what has happened in the past year where I think we've had, what, three or four? Maybe three? I think three. Which elbows? Three, yeah. And then- Spokes. I think at the spoke and then Hazel, yeah. So, and then the Panda East thing was a different, it was a different thing because I think that initially came through the police department and then they got in touch with the ABCC. So anyway, so that was very interesting. And Steve will check in with Chief Livingstone about that. And is there anything else on this topic about that? No? Okay, great. Conflict of Interest Law Training. And Steve, you sent around a document about this. Yes, so the Conflict of Interest Law is something that we all have to comply with. You are all considered municipal employees for the purposes of the law. And so you do have to do the Conflict of Interest Law Training from time to time. There was a PDF included in your packet from the town clerk that covered it very well. And it's just an online training program. I haven't done it yet. It used to be very entertaining with a guy with the strongest Boston accent. I think I've ever heard on earth going through conflicts and things like that. But hopefully it's still as entertaining but it is really good stuff to know. I mean, with the living and working in a small town it's pretty easy to kind of accidentally trip yourself up and some of the provisions are, it's easy to not accept big burlap sacks with dollar sign on them for your vote but there's a lot of other things that are more subtle and it's good to catch up on that. And I think you probably all had to do it when you first joined the board but it's good to be reminded of it from time to time. And I believe it's a requirement. So yeah, you can take a look at the PDF and get started with that. It should just take certainly less than an hour. Okay, great. Yes, Dom. Do you have a deadline we need to have it completed by? I mean, I'm not gonna put it off like six months but I'm just saying- Yeah, I believe it has to be done every year. I don't think there is a specific deadline but the town clerk is trying to, they do chase people down so. Okay. All right, so everyone, so if you have a town clerk coming after you you will know why. Okay. All right, upcoming meeting schedule and agenda. So this is the 16th of February already. And Steve, what is, do we have new licenses? Yeah, so we have a bunch of stuff coming up. So unfortunately the 16th will have to be only an hour because both I and Dylan will have to go to the ZBA which is bouncing around. I'm helping to cover for that at the moment. And so that will have to be only about an hour but I think that should be fine. We, I did, we were, I talked with Mary about potentially moving that around so we'd have a bit more time but I had to get the notice out for an application that came in which I'll talk about in a minute to meet the statutory requirements. So that application is for a Burger Bar, Amherst Burger, Burger Company. I think it's called, which will be going in where Ichiban used to be or Shanghai Gourmet I think was the most recent tenant of that space but Barry Roberts who is the owner of that building will be involved in that operation. They're going for the full liquor license. And we can also maybe, I don't think that will take a full hour so we can also maybe touch upon the BYOB stuff as well. And then coming up after that, which would be March 2nd, we will have an application from, two applications from the spoke, one to change the manager on their current liquor license and one to a new liquor license. So he has purchased the former Old Town Tavern building. I think they're also used to be a laundromat, maybe another unit there. And he's leased the entire thing and he is applying to open a large 400 capacity nightclub. So that has also been submitted to ZBA and his liquor license application is ready. So are just about, so I think that will probably be going on for then. I figured that would be a longer discussion than the Burger Bar one. So. Yes, okay. So next meeting, we just have the Burger Bar and maybe a red line version of the BYOB law. And if Mandy Johaneke sends around another draft, we can put it on, we don't have to put it on. Or maybe we just send it around. Well, we can certainly put whatever on and if we don't get to it, we don't get to it. I don't know how long that application will last so. Okay, all right. Okay, great. Anything else? Any other topics? Do we just want it done? I think the other one that will come up because it's coming up in March is the expiration of the remote meeting option. Oh, yeah. And I haven't heard, every meeting like this I've gone to, everybody's like, well, we're not sure what they're gonna do. And nobody said anything. So it seems as though the legislature and the governor have not thought about it anyway, I think, I don't know. But we just need to be prepared to start meeting in person. I can't remember exactly when the exemption ends. I don't think it's the 1st of March. I think more it's like the 15th, but Steve, do you recall? I don't know exactly when it is, no. And I haven't heard anything either, which is surprising. Yeah. Personally, I kind of doubt they'll get rid of it entirely because I think there may be a crowd of town board members and town managers surrounding the Beacon Hill with Fitch Forks, but I guess it remains to be seen. Yeah, I mean, I think my personal opinion is there's certain meetings that I go to that are well-served by remote participation and others that are less well-served. So I think for us, I think it's a matter of if they allow for remote, then I think we need to have a debate about, how do we want to do it? Does it's, what serves the public best? And what else is functional for us as a group? There was an interesting editorial in the Gazette about this a couple, two days ago. I sent to Steve, maybe Steve, maybe you could forward it on. Yeah, absolutely. Basically saying that like the hybrid stuff is not being done well. No, those are generally not well done. I think the concern with staying with fully remote is it does preclude some people from joining. Either by technological hurdles or financial ones. That's more like a couple of cases, but then again. Yeah. I don't know enough. Is it possible to do a once a month hybrid and once a month in person? Or is it all or nothing? Or I guess we won't know until they update the regulations. Yeah, I think it's going to depend. For something like CBA, I feel like that would always be better served by being in person. But I like in person meetings personally, but I definitely see the convenience of it. I wouldn't be able to wear my hoodie up to town hall. Well, I mean, I could, you know. No one's going to stop you. No one's going to stop you. That's right. It's a pretty informal town, but yeah, I think for me, I mean, I have some where the meeting's actually like in Springfield and sometimes they're short meetings. So it's, you know, 40 minutes of driving each way for a 30 minute meeting that's kind of dragged. Yeah. You know, but we'll see how it plays out. I would, yeah, I would anticipate, and again, this is truly my own speculation, but I would anticipate that if they are going to just end it or there's major changes, they'll probably extend it for a month or two as it is anyway, because it is getting close and these meetings get scheduled so far ahead that you know, there needs to be some time to turn the ship around. So, you know, I guess we'll have just keep an eye on that. And if we get an announcement, we'll just have to discuss the meeting schedule. Okay. So topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours prior to the meeting and there are, I guess one thing there was about Garcia is the manager. Yes. So I just wanted to pass along to you yesterday, the manager of Garcia, the liquor license manager of Garcia's just came in and told me that she would no longer be working there and she wanted to remove her name from the license. And unfortunately she can't really do that. It has to be the applicant who does that. And I guess she could be a signatory. I guess she does technically have the power to sign applications being the manager, but in any case. So yeah, I let her know that, you know, that's going to have to be changed, but she just wanted to pass that along and, you know, kind of absolve herself of any liability if something happens. And I told her she could write a statement to the board stating as such and we would reach out to the owners to begin designating a new manager, but I thought I would just pass that along. Okay. Thank you, Doug. Just so you didn't get an opportunity today to reach out to them and say, hey, what's going on? And how quickly can you get a manager in place? No, I've back to back meetings all day today, but I was expecting an email from her with that statement. It didn't get it. So maybe I will give both of them a call tomorrow and try to sort out where everything is, but they will certainly have to apply for a new one. Okay. And the other thing, Steve, you sent around the newspaper article about the lottery in Northampton, right? The liquor license lottery. I did not actually, but I did mention that to you, but that is something interesting. And you all might want to hear is that one of the attorneys for an applicant for the coveted all alcohol license did pass along that Northampton had done a lottery at some recent time. So I just thought it was interesting. I sent along to Brian Riley and asked him what he thought, but I don't know if different interpretations of the law and correct interpretation of the law, what it may be, but I just did to think it was interesting. Yeah. Guess what? I'm just curious what the update is on applications, Steve. So far we have one in, another one should be shortly forthcoming. And I believe there's another one out there, but so far the only one to formally submit has been Cushman Market. So the deadline is the 22nd, I believe. Yep. 22nd. Okay. Super. Any other topics? Nope. Okay. Our next meeting is February 16th at five. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. Thank you, Doug. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dylan. I'll take a vote. Doug. Hi. Kelly. Hi. Dylan. Hi. Gaston. Hi. And I vote aye. That is five to zero. We're adjourned at 4, 543 PM. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thanks a lot, Steve. See you next time. Thank you all. Bye. Bye everybody. Yep. Bye.