 Hi Federica, thank you for taking the time to sit with us, we are here today at Coalition which is a technology conference summit and we are pleased to have you with us today. And let me say that Federica Bieta is the managing director for Coalition for Rainforest Nations and we would like to learn more what do you see technology taking us as individuals and also as organizations? It's taking a far, in our coalition has been very important technology, when we started 12 years ago I would say we were using really basic technologies like you would say emails but it was something that was really make us reach all rainforest countries and then being in contact every time you know rainforest are in three different regions of the world from Asia to Africa to Latin America and so you need to have an instrument that you know puts everyone together when you cannot be physically together. Then I mean basic technology actually would say now about what's up but that we didn't have until three four years ago but now it's really an instrument that allows you to be close, exchange views every minute instantaneously and there's been very important because what we did was really trying to give an economic value to the last rainforest so they're more valuable standing when we're in chop down and to do that you have a lot of different point of views coming from the different region of the world and to find an instrument that actually would work for everyone there is a lot of discussion exchanging of views and groundbreaking that you need to do and so you need to have this communication ongoing that cannot just been once or twice a year when you meet during UN conference that are there so this kind of basic technologies have been really useful. Where we are now that we have a full mechanism that the CFR and the coalition created through the Paris agreement in capture with the article 5 we have to fill a new gap and that where we see space for new technologies coming in the new gap is really now implementing and making sure that finance, private sector finance can actually reach out developing countries and pay for the effort of production of the remissions or increasing their carbon stocks and to do that we need to create tools like trading exchange like you know registries that would allow to recognize real ownership to the community they're actually doing the efforts and for private sector to be able to support those efforts so that we see where the next you know disruptions is going to be. Very interesting I hear you said we have to fill a gap and the bright line is more about filling the gap between the strategy that the organization designed and the delivery of the implementation of the strategy. Now for your case here of course there is the idea right many organizations have the idea but making the idea into reality sometimes it's quite challenging how do you make it It's quite challenging especially in very small teams and when you are you know this structural organization and trying to change the world try to change our natural capital has been valued you always also need to be actually a small team of dedicated person because if you just build a big infrastructure and you don't know actually what is the face you're gonna change next we're you know really a new frontier you cannot have that so you have to have a small team that is flexible and ready to move and ready to adapt but at the same time that takes a lot of challenges because when you have a small team you don't you forget a little bit of private life you dedicate it to the cause of because it takes so much of your time and your energy so you know that there are challenges but I would say really small dedicated team is very important but use also of you know technology that allow you to do more than you could do you know maybe 20 years ago and and just be always innovative and look what there are the new options out there and never you know sleep on things that you have arrived but actually there's always something new to look to look after it's not it's not easy it's challenging but that's how we have been you know operating in the past I would say 14-15 years And one final question I mean people tend to say people have the most important assets in the organizations people are key to health and movement control and what do you think about that message the role of people within organization to make things happen it's true it's true as I was saying a small group of people but dedicated can really think make things changing you have to have passion you have to have you know need to get the value to the people in your organization and you need to see that they believe on the cause as well many of our small staff as well comes from developing countries right where they have rain forest so they really feel that they have to say they're working for their country they're working for something that they believe and then you know and that's how you create a team basically you know that you can make cheat it change things in the world just with a lot of passion and dedication Excellent, Pedroica, thank you so much for having me, thank you so much