 Yo man what's success look like to you if you if you're underground artist what is what is success look like that lets you know that you on the right track you know because we do a lot of things everybody in this chat man everybody in his hustlers you know we run in ads you know we come into you guys and like buddy said man and I already told you before I need to change my name from Tony hustle instead of dare by but um you know you definitely help us out a lot you know and if it wasn't for people like y'all we really be left in the dark because they don't teach this kind of shit in school per se you know so what does success look like you know so that is as cliche as it sounds it's gonna look different for every artist you know like I think that I personally think that a successful artist is one that is affording to live off the art you know like there was this article that came out a couple of years ago that was talking about how just things to like all the shit you can do with the internet and social media the like the wealth gap in just like musicians and a music industry was going to widen where it's like you're gonna have less artists be like Drake and J Cole and Kenji Lamar level but you have more artists that are making like 35,000 years like 45,000 years saying like I personally think like you know saying that like that shit is being successful as artists because there hasn't been any point in history where that many artists were able to live successfully off their music like this is the one of the first times in history where like that shit is like super possible you know saying and like I've been able to watch it with people I've worked with and like music friends of mine so I have people that like I've known for years and I've watched them like build out to the points where like now they're making up money we're like they're not like super rich or nothing but like they don't have to work you know I don't have to go to the job like they can focus on like doing this shit all day like talking to people like getting shit done towards music and I feel like that path is it's just when you break it down is you're just you're building a business out you know what I'm saying like that's how we look at it like the modern day indie artist is an entrepreneur you know what I'm saying like you're no different than us you know different than like gave you know different like anybody selling the product on the same shit like we all in the same gang and I think like getting like more artists to understand that yeah like game game more artists to understand that is like it's like the challenge but I think the necessary thing because it takes away a lot of that stigma of like you always see the here or here it's hella room between everybody like I talked to ours like I've had conversations with you I've seen people to our statements and seen like damn bro you make this amount of money a month or like this amount of money inside I've seen in varying degrees I have I have people like I've been sorry I've worked with it shit that may like hella money offer that catalog they've racked up over the last 20 years or so you know saying like and they like eating bro they make it like so much fucking money and like I see it like I said like new artist that I've known for like two three years that they're making they got to the point where they're making like $2,000 off of their money off their streams like their merciless stuff so I and they're happy with that because like they can do whatever the fuck they want to do something like whatever once again like whatever success was like for them like they just want to sit around like make music have meetings and play video games all that brother like fuck it they happy like cool they're making they they doing that thing with music like they happy as fuck you know what I'm saying so like I don't know bro I would always tell like I feel like like every like I said every artist has to have what that looks like for them and then I don't know man but I feel like it changes like the more shit comes to you I'm saying it's like like your goal maybe like damn bro I want to make a hundred dollars off music like damn brother I want to like no I wanted or I want to be able to just um we had we had one client that his music he was like a more of an EDM like artist and his music will be doing like crazy on Spotify but he had no serious ambitions of like being like a super big music artist like he was this guy he had like a nine to five that he'd like he worked like his finance firm you know saying out of Florida and he was like yeah I just like make music on style like he's like as long as I make like a couple hundred dollars off this shit like I'm cool with that he's like and he's at the already at the point where for the last like two and a half years like he's happy with that he's like fuck it I just make these songs put them out in my spare time and like I can make seven hundred dollars a month like he's cool as fuck with that so I don't know man I think it's like really like figuring out like what that shit looks like for you and then like what is that shit going to look like to do it because like when people are like yo bro I want to be if I want to be Drake it's like whatever it's like that's a lot that's a lot of time and money you know saying like that shit ain't like this isn't easy I'm not saying any possible but it's not easy like um and I think like the general nature of like like first off understanding the the part about being a music artist is basically you running a business is a hard thing for like a lot of people to like understand the gate because like you know saying like because like you said it's not a lot of people that put that information out there like or it's starting to be like that now I was going to argue like last like two years but even that's still fairly new you know saying like that's not a lot of time so it's gonna be people who like I have people who still hit me about bills I put out like like two years ago you know something like that just getting it like there are people who are just learning about that shit and jumping into it today um but I think like that'll change over time and I think the general idea of our success is going to look like I can say like yo you just can like make music and live off your art to whatever degree you want to live up like if you want to part-time gig money so now I want to be able to like pay my my kids tuition off this shit you know what I'm saying it's like I think those levels are possible you know what I'm saying if there are those degrees and any artist that wants to do it whatever level you know what I'm saying like that can make a shit happen because we've seen enough times you know what I'm saying like we've seen it happen