 Welcome back to Up in Addams, I'm Brandon Marshall and I'm taking over this show because Kay was almost late and there's a penalty for that in football. It's a penalty for that in football. You're so slow! I need to say I am an athlete in the house. I almost was late today. Oh my goodness. I thought you were going to come in on Zoom. What are you doing in LA? I want to take care of you. So we came out. We always come to LA, right, and visit cool people. So we sat down with Reggie Bush and a few others. How is Reggie? He's phenomenal. I love him. And he opened up. What do you mean? He opened up. Reggie's chill. Yeah. He's not Hollywood. He just lives in Hollywood like you so don't get Hollywood on me. I just got Hollywood. But he's like real chill. Reggie's always been that guy in the locker. I played with the Dolphins to see Reggie like open up was pretty cool. How do you get people to open up on I Am Athlete? Every time somebody comes on you see a bit of a different side of them. What's your strategy for that? I think first you slide in the DMs. So you're like, yo Reggie, can you come on the show? They respond. Because it starts there. You set the tempo in the DM. What kind of energy are you on? And so when they sit down with us, if I'm being honest, I think there is a skill and an art to what you do. But where's this locker room? We're literally just capturing the conversations that we have in the locker room. I think people want to sit down with us. You, me, the Pat McAfee's of the world. People want to be more unapologetic and more real. Pat McAfee's of the world, I love it. Anybody want to go into these stuffy studios anymore with people with suits on? They want to sit down with you. You're not wrong. And you're here and you are always honest. So you don't have to ever preface anything by saying if I'm being honest. Because you always are. And I want to get into a couple of storylines around the league. But first there is a game tonight. We're kicking off week three. Who's playing? Brown Steelers. Any thoughts? Oh, Brown Steelers. The Steelers wins this game. The Steelers win. Would Mitchell and Shubiski or are they calling for pick it mid game? Well, it's Coach Tomlin. Coach Tomlin, he doesn't get rattled. He's a real leader, right? So any other coach, maybe there's three coaches in the league that stay true to their game plan. Coach isn't going to listen to the noise. He doesn't care. He's a true leader. He's going to stick with Mitch. That was his guy. You know, maybe sometime this year we see Kenny. But Coach Tomlin is going to stick with Mitch. Why? Because he's more seasoned. I think they'll lose this game. Kenny pick it starting next week. Well, first they're not going to lose this game. They're not going to lose this game. Let's start there. Okay. Well, the other side, the Browns, they had a player's only meeting already. Already? That's not good. After two weeks. Week two, they had a player's only meeting? Now, I kind of know what that means, but talk to me about it. Have you ever been to one? It means nothing. It means nothing. You know how many times I call the player's only meeting? No, I want to know. I stood in front and then all the guys are sitting there like, oh, what does he have to say? Or you had other guys, you know, in the front talking. And it's just like, it goes in one air and out the other. At the end of the day, just do your job. Right? Like, for us to come together and have to push each other to practice and do those things, what the hell are you in the NFL for? Yeah. Right? Like, just do your job. So if you're in week two and you're having a player's only meeting, that's a problem. You've got some leaders there. Like, you've got Miles Garrett there. He's really honest about being frustrated with his team, too. So when he speaks, you'd think it'd go a long way. Okay. So let's say you're the starting defensive back. Yeah. Right? You're the starting defensive back. You're getting 15, 20, 20 million dollars a year. Yeah. I need to motivate you, Kay? No. Do I need to motivate Kay? Make it 20 million dollars a year? Absolutely not. Yeah, that's not good. That's the problem. What we want is, you know, in those meetings, like, look, guys, we're not executing. We're not doing our job. But when we're talking about effort, we're talking about want to, that's a problem. That's a cultural challenge, right? We should only be talking about production. Sorry, but this, we're talking about a locker room that has the coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski. What does it say about the coach to call players only meeting? Well, nothing at all. I mean, you know, if you... So you're saying culture is the coach, too, right? Correct. But, you know, as a coach in the organization, you do love this stuff, right? The players taking control of the locker room. Okay, good. That's when you really have a good team. My thing is we shouldn't be talking about culture. We shouldn't be talking about effort, right? I just want you to understand, like, look, it's covered three. I'm supposed to be in the curl flat, right? This one I messed up because I took the cheese. They ran a five-year route in front of me. So I jumped that. Now they put an in route behind me. I was supposed to be there. I know this. We talked about it all week. So I just want to reinforce the X's and O's, the execution part of the game. I don't want to be talking about... I don't want to talk about, is this guy showing up on time, right? I don't want to talk about why isn't he running to the ball, Lofen? It's either you got it or you don't. If you're having those conversations, I think you're out of the conversation around, you know, good team or great team or contenders. But Steelers are winning, in your opinion, because of their coach, because of Tomlin. It starts there. It's a trickle-down effect. When he walks into the room, Coach Tomlin is the same person or in the building. He's the same person every single day, right? And he doesn't care who you are, right? He's going to just hold you accountable and he's going to push you to your greatness. That's the amazing thing about Coach Tomlin. And he doesn't care what's happening. There's always a way for the solution. That's what makes him great is his leadership. Let's keep the head coach going here on the show, because on I Am Athlete, you had a vibrant conversation about Pete Carroll celebrating and saying outwardly that winning over Russell Wilson was rewarding. What did you make of that? And you have to listen to him and I Am Athlete, because it was incredible. Well, first, I like Coach Pete Carroll. I study Coach Carroll, right? Two guys I study in the NFL when it comes to leadership, totally different styles. Bill Belichick and Coach Pete Carroll. Bill Belichick, walk in this building, do your job. I don't care about all the other stuff, right? Pete Carroll, raw, raw guy. You want to be there. The energy's at an all-time high every single day. My first time interacting, well, my second time interacting with coach and free agency. When I left the Miami Dolphins, when I left the Denver Bronx to go to Miami Dolphins in 2011, Seattle Seahawks offered me way more money and they wanted me to come play. This was Coach Pete Carroll's first off-season free agency. Right? And he wanted me to come in. And it was awesome. He took me to a Snoop Dogg concert, so we had this bond that started from back then. Who went to the Snoop Dogg concert? Coach Carroll, no. You and him? Just the two of you? No, no, there's a couple other people around, too. It was awesome. So, anyways, fast forward to years later, Coach Carroll brings me at the tail end of my career and we're sitting this meeting and we're talking about the rail revises of the world. We're talking about all these amazing corners. Like, Brandon, it seems like you prepare a little bit different, a little bit more when it comes to these guys. Like, Coach, I do. I have a notebook on the rail revise. Like, if I'm playing against the rail revise, I may start my prep work three, four weeks out because I got to get ahead because this dude, if I don't come to play, I won't catch a ball on him. He's like, well, no, you have to approach every single game the same. That's the wrong attitude. That's the wrong mentality. Let me show you what greatness is. Every single day, be the same person. So I'm saying all of that because you're playing against Russell Wilson. Everything you preach and everything you stand on every single day. It wasn't the same. It's like you just totally contradicted yourself. You got a quarterback that led you to two Super Bowls and now there's obviously other people in the organization. But you got a quarterback that was like this with you. He was a phenomenal leader, not only in the locker room but also in the community. And now he leaves. He's gone for freaking three months. And this is how you treat him. This is how you act. What about the relationships? And then you got Richard Sherman and you have other guys at KJ Wright. I play with KJ Wright, love KJ Wright. And they go on their podcast and they talk about their teammate that way. That just didn't sit well with me. Those are some of those things I think it stays in house. They know their challenges. They know their problems. Some things just stay in the locker room. And I think that was one of them. Why do you think Richard Sherman has such an issue with Russell Wilson? Well, I don't think it's just Richard Sherman. I think it's always been defense versus offense. We're talking about that legion of boom. It's top five defenses of all time. Is it that they didn't get credit for what they did or that Pete Carroll didn't help them as much as he could? Well, first off, when it comes to the quarterback position, every quarterback is coddled. Every quarterback gets special privileges. It is. We know this. It's special privileges. So when you look at what Richard Sherman is saying, it's basically like we're coming out here. We're busting our butts. And then when we get in these meetings, you may call us out. But then in turn, you know, Russell may throw a pick and you may not say something to him. So it was always this back and forth between Russ and defense. But at the end of the day. But together they won a Super Bowl. They won a Super Bowl. Right. Can we celebrate that? Declare victory. They won a Super Bowl. But everyone has their pain. He's such a polarizing character. But I see what you're saying. Like, you know, you should peak Carroll's philosophy as the coaches play every game the same way, even when you're in the Super Bowl. That's right. Even when you're deciding whether or not to put the ball marsh on Lynch's hand. Keep it like this. And I think the Belichick sort of feels the same way. It's every game. Every all four quarters are the same. But this one meant a little more to him. You had stability in your organization. It's the public in a sense that it's ugly. Yeah. But you had, you had stability in your organization for 10 years. Yeah. That's something to celebrate. You had a guy that didn't get in any trouble. You had a guy that was just, he echoed what you were saying in your team meetings in a locker room all over the place, all over the dangling city. Yeah. Right? Come on. But you can say what you want now. And so can Richard Sherman, because he's no longer in that locker room. So you're saying that's a sacred space. It should be in-house. My- Until you're not in-house anymore and then you can sort of talk about it. Well, my thing is this, right? If you go back and listen to what Coach Pete Carroll said, he was like, you guys figure it out. You know why this was special. And then you have guys out there, ex-players coming out saying, oh yeah, Coach was hot. Coach was saying all these other things. Yeah. We never seen Coach Carroll like this. So what are you saying, Coach? Why don't you come out and say what you said? Because you started this conversation. How do you really feel? Tell us. Right. Right? I just don't like that. Coach Carroll's a phenomenal leader. He's done a phenomenal job his entire career. Russell is a phenomenal leader, phenomenal quarterback. You guys did something special together. Keep that stuff in-house. And then there's the gifts flying around and the memes and all that like Doug Waldo was getting involved and all that. Really? I mean, there's a lot. I didn't see that. I don't know. It might be completely unrelated. It's getting messy. But people are connecting some of those things to each other. But I think your right to celebrate. Declare victory. You know what? This is the last thing I'll say on this. Yeah. Okay, I played 13 years in the National Football League. I had 17 different quarterbacks. When I got to the Seattle Seahawks and I walked into the building and there was, you know, you feel some of that, right? I'm like, you know, the alternative? You want to play with the guys I play with? This is Russell Wilson. We're talking about the most winningest cornerback. Jay, come around. You're catching strays. No, I love Jay. Thank you, Jay. Jay targets a hundred and eighty targets a year. I can't complain against our guy Jay Cutler. Smoking Jay, I love you. I'm just kidding. I love you. Come sit with us. You know, I don't know. He'll come out. Tell me this. We'll move on a little bit. If you could pick a locker room to be in. Culture-wise, get in the rock a lot-wise right now if you could play in one of them. Which one would you pick? Oh, man. The Buffalo Bills. They seem like they have fun. I love playing with those type of quarterbacks. They're on schedule, but they also know how to make a play where it's like, hey, this play is broken down. Let's go. Love Josh Allen. What makes him special? His relatability. His relatability. Talent-wise, he has all the traits. Big arm. He's physical. High IQ. He's coachable. He's great there. He separates himself from a lot of guys in the world when it comes to that. But a lot of those guys, right? Like, you look at Aaron Rodgers, right? Like, it took a lot of work for Aaron Rodgers to be sort of relatable, right? Like, you understand, like, some guys, we had, remember Brett Farve. Brett Farve, when he played with the Jets, he had his own office. He didn't even get dressed in the locker room. Sometimes you see these quarterbacks. They walk into the building. It's like, oh, that's our quarterback, right? Some of these guys, the Eli Mannings of the world, the Russell Wilson's of the world, you know, the Josh Allen's of the world. It's like, you're just a guy. You're just cool. He's sitting in a locker room, maybe playing ping-pong with you. Right. You know? Some of these guys are like, I've got to go watch third down and short. 70% of the time, they're going zero. Yeah. I've got to go into office. Like, no, bro, like, sit here and talk with the guys. You can tell that with him, Mr. Fondac, that he's very, he's disarmed. He's one of the guys. And that's important. Relatability matters when you have, especially when you have, I mean, I just like how chill he's being with all this pressure. You brought up. So much pressure. You brought up, you know, our podcast, right? And how do we get those guys to open up that way? That's Josh Allen. Those conversations that we have on the show, Josh Allen will sit there for an hour and fit in. Some of those quarterbacks will come in and be like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. And they'll walk away, right? Because they're just on a different level. So that's what makes Josh Allen special. You mentioned Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you're talking about things being in-house. Did you see what he said about Amari Rodgers last week, this whole thing about how he's not, you know, where was he? He was asked how he's fit in the offense. And he didn't, I don't think he wanted to lie. He's an honest person who's done a lot of work on himself to be open and vulnerable. And he's like, he's not involved. And that's all I have to say on that. Is that, like, how do you handle that if you're a player Amari Rodgers? Is it being put in the public too much? The fact that clearly there's something there. Yeah. No, I think, again, the quarterbacks are special. Like, you know, you play with some of these quarterbacks. A Peyton Manning or Tom Brady walks in. It's like, it's almost like you're seeing a guy like, oh my goodness. So as a younger wide receiver or younger player when your quarterback says something like that, it's almost as if like your dad is talking to you. Right? So you just like, he's right. He's always right. I just have to figure this thing out. Yeah. You take onus, you take the responsibility and try to find a way to get into the offense. Sometimes those public conversations push guys to their greatest potential. And then you have to know that as the leader and he's been the leader long enough that you get it. And he has to know if I say this publicly about this teammate, can this teammate handle it? Will he break? Some guys will break down. Yeah. Some guys, it will actually push them to greatness. That pushed me to greatness. Here in Jay Cutler saying, if Brandon Marshall doesn't get it right, you know, we're going to have to move on. You got to get Jay Cutler on I Am Athlete. We've been talking, but Jay, come on. I would love that. Come on, up in Adams. I tried to get Jay. Jay's very, Jay's like chasing a girl, like a guy or girl like on Instagram doesn't want to connect. Jay's weird, let's just say. He's weird. Jay, you're weird. But we love you. We love you. We love you. You know, wide receivers aren't too bad. We talked a lot of quarterbacks. We'll bring you back at the beginning of next segment. But I wanted to ask you a couple things here. Are your boy, Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Best wide receiver. Darius Lay took care of him. In the rare time that you had a bad game or a poor game that wasn't, you know, your expectation, how did you talk your way out of that? Like, you know, what would you say to Justin Jefferson after that game? Nothing. Right? Because like, you know, sometimes we see some of these guys, whether it's Justin Jefferson or DK Metcalf or Tyree Kill, we put them on this pedestal and it's like, oh my goodness, they are the best in the world and they dominate every single matchup. That is not true. Those guys got to this point because they learned how to fail forward, fall forward. Yeah. They learned that. You think Justin Jefferson never had a bad practice or never had a bad game or never had a DB get to him? And then also as a wide receiver, I'm being honest, you know, we're going to watch film and be like, well, and these are the things that a lot of, you know, casual fans may not see or understand. Even people around the league, because they're not watching the game. They're not watching all 70 snaps. It's like, well, Slay actually had help on this one. Or Slay was able to play off and play the deep ball because he had this linebacker that was going to take anything, you know, short or intermediate, right? Right. There's a lot of times these star wide receivers, they're not playing against one person. They're playing against two or three. They're playing against a scheme. They tried doing that again, you know, but it didn't work week one. I thought I was surprised Darius locked him up. I just, I was, and I apologize to Darius and I'm glad he's celebrating all week for that. Yeah. Well, you know, you have that. And then also you have the quarterbacks as well. Like there's so much more that goes into it. Sometimes it's the quarterback. Sometimes it may be the play caller. The play caller could be off. I don't think Justin Jefferson is losing any sleep. I think what happens is you actually, this is why he's great because what he'll do is use this for fuel and dominate the next four or five games. Mike Evans, one game suspension, fair? Yes, because, and Mike is going to kill me. Oh boy. It's like, like they've been doing this for how many years? Yeah. Right? I'm sorry, Mike, but when I saw this, like it's not a big deal. But I was like, oh, I can see why the NFL may suspend him because it's like, all right, bro, like you guys fight every single year. Y'all play twice a year. Like we're tired of seeing this. So I think it's more of the NFL making a statement saying, y'all get y'all stuff together. Y'all can duke it out in between the whistle, but all the extra stuff, y'all need to stop that. I mean, Fitzpatrick was your guy. Ryan. That's your guy, Ryan. Yeah. So if somebody came at Ryan, if somebody came at Ryan, like what happened with Brady out there, what would you do? Listen, see, people always like, B Morris, man, he was out there. He's so aggressive. He's so like... I would say that I'm just asking you in the same situation. What would you do? People always like, man, you know, Brandon, how would he react? It's like, I never got a personal foul penalty while I got one. You know, I always played within the rules because I was playing the long game. Like I wanted to finish the game. I would have tried to step in and separate it. I wouldn't have fought it. But if he'd have put... If they put their hands on Fitsie, if he didn't put his hands on Fitsie, if he puts his hands on Fitsie... Okay. Oh, I'm jumping in now. You're jumping in there. Me and Eric Decker held out for Fitzpatrick. It was a legendary, one of the most legendary holdouts. What happened? Talk to me. They wouldn't pay, the Jets wouldn't pay, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah. After that magical year that we had. And Eric Decker and I, Coach Boles was our head coach. We said, we're not coming back, Coach Boles, until you pay him. So if Ryan holds out, we're gonna hold out as well. What is it about Fitzpatrick? And we'll of course see him on Amazon tonight, ahead of the Steelers and the Browns. He's a man, man. Is it the relatability? It's the beard. That's the thing? It's the beard. Is Jimmy G a relatable quarterback? Who doesn't like the beard? Jimmy G. Jimmy G? He is. See in that category, is that why people rally around him, those players at locker room? You saw it, right? Yeah. You know, as soon as he got in, I don't know if it was after his first touchdown or whatnot, how the guys rallied around him. Maybe it was after the game. And you saw Trent, you saw all the guys just bouncing and pushing him. Yeah. And loving on him. It's because he's one of the guys. He's relatable. I talked to DePors Buckner. We'll have that interview tomorrow. Oh, wow. He was on the team that went to the Super Bowl. Yeah. And Jimmy, he says he has a switch and he just turns it and he becomes this leader and this sort of general out there. And I never heard that about Jimmy G. Brandon, thank you for being here. This is awesome. Do you want to stay after the break for a second? If you want me to, look at this set. Look at this. The whole time. But we will be back after this. I think Charlie Batch is joining us and we've got a lot to get you because this game is tonight. Yeah. It's go time. Yeah. Go time. Go time. When I show up. Y'all get no shot. No shot. Yeah. Yeah. We on fire. We gonna show up. Make it pop. Like a tire. We gonna blow out. It's go time. Go time. Go time. When I show up. Go time. Hours from now. Little Thursday night football action Browns versus Jewelers Division rivalry under the lights. I'm saying it's a must win game. Brandon Marshall saying there to it's a long season. Week three. I don't know. They both had coming. You know bad bad losses. Players only meetings after two weeks. Come on. This is a must win game. They have a sense of urgency. Yeah. Let's get that. You never know what can happen in this season. It's so long. Guy goes down. You never know. Should we bring in a friend of yours. Let's do it. OK. NFL career spending 15 years as a quarterback for the Detroit Lions and the Pittsburgh Steelers two time Super Bowl champion. Currently the Steelers radio analyst at 1 0 2 5 in Pittsburgh. I'm the best. Hey good morning. How's everyone? Good. You two just saw each other with what? This is the OG. Charlie Betch. I know. I mean he's like NFL royalty. It doesn't matter what cities he's in. What organization. Everybody loves Charlie. It's so true. Charlie. We love having you here. We know it's a busy day for you hours from now. Big rivalry in the AFC North in prime time. What are you looking at? What do we need to be looking at for this one? Well all eyes are going to be on the offensive side of the ball. There's been a lot of rumblings this week as it goes. So the reason I'm here is because of the flexibility that Mr. Biscay and Woody's bringing to the table and especially the flexibility of what he has at the line of scrimmage as far as out of the last thing. This is an important game. I know you're talking about whether or not this is a must win game but I really feel it is only because Mitch has to figure out a way to get to 2 and 1 for whatever reason. They don't get this win tonight and you have 10 days before they get ready for the jets at Actorshore stadium next week. You better believe Steelers Nation will be clamoring for Kenny Pickett. Pickett? Pickett. Kenny Pickett. Sorry. Excuse me. So you talked about him. Is it a must win game for Mitch because you have this guy sitting there. Kay and I was talking about him. You know is Coach Tomlin going to pull the trigger on this guy or is he going to have his hand stand steady and ride out Mitch because he has the experience. What do you see happening if they don't win this game? Yeah. I think when you have to go on Mike Tomlin's word because he said Mr. Biscay is going to be his guy moving forward. So you never want to be a quarterback that's looking over your shoulder. And unfortunately this is what's happening right now. We all know the politics of this game. When you have a first rounder you're just keeping the seat warm for whenever that guy's ready to go. So this is important. This is an important game for Mitch because it's a national game. Everybody will be focusing and watching what happens at this particular point. So I hope it doesn't get to that point. I hope we never see Kenny Pickett this year. We don't that because Mitch is playing very well. So I just think it's just something right now. And I just think that's what Mike Tomlin is going to do only because he never had to make this decision. He had been Ralph's burger for all of his career. So this is an important step for him. It's true. And why bring out the rookie when he's not going to be protected well. That's my thing. And that's the situation with Mitchell. And I hate I like Mitchell Chibisky but he's kind of like the sacrificial lamb and he's going to have to go get take his licks because tonight it's Miles Garrett as we know he leads the NFL with 12 quarterback pressures. I don't need to ask to tell you how crazy he can be. And the offensive line is Mitchell Chibisky. And that's Charlie my big fear. Well I agree with you. I agree with you there because Art Rooney made it a point two years ago to talk about improving the running games that Steelers owner. And then they made a move with Najee Harris last year in the first round. Here you are now trying to improve the offensive line but yet you're not seeing productivity right now. Najee Harris only has 72 yards when you compare that to over 200 yards for with the Browns running game and what they're doing on their side. You're just like what's going on in Pittsburgh. We know the defense they're playing well minus TJ Watt but it gets to the point the offense have to compliment the defense and right now it's not happening at all because if the defense realize that they don't score when they're on the field it's going to be tough for that offense to possess in that time of possession. So so Charlie one of things that make the Pittsburgh Steelers great right is just the continuity and just the philosophy right in the consistency from ownership all the way down to the equipment managers. The zone blitz it's been in the Steelers fan the Steelers family for forever. And like you said run the ball. I grew up in Pittsburgh so I understand this whole culture but outside looking in now Charlie I feel like the strength of this offense is the wide receivers and it's like this broken philosophy almost where it's like yo we're going to continue to play what we play on defense offensively let's get back to the Steelers ways where we're pounding the rock but when you look at it and you have these dog receivers out there it's like how do we use in a wide receivers more and you see you know guys starting to chirp you see Mitch saying I got to get my playmakers to ball do you see conflict there within the organization is like how do we leverage the stars that we have. Well I mean I really thought the receiving core would get off to a better start but I think right now because the lack of the running game right now and that Canada's offense is going to have opportunities down the field I thought George Pickins coming in here he looks every bit of a first round pick even though they picked him up in a second I thought he would compliment chase Claypool I thought he would compliment Deontay Johnson those things aren't happening and when you come into a game you're starting talk about those rumblings you know what the first 10 to 15 plays are going to be so when you come into your regardless of what those top 10 to 15 plays are always those whispers have to say I'm going to be opening on the other side look for your boy that's what's happening right now what did George say I was open 90% of the time 90% of the time I let you know on one side Mitch is hearing I'm open 90% of the time you just paid Deontay Johnson on the other side hey get me the ball and then they said Clay this off season with us said listen I believe I can be a top 3 wide receiver all these guys they want the ball like I understand the Pittsburgh way let's run the rock that's the philosophy of winning but they can run the rock like I think I've seen this totally differently maybe than both of you the defense is a huge problem they're going to have a really big trouble containing Nick Chubb and Karim Hunt because they don't have TJ Watt Najee is the key to this whole game they're going to be focused around Najee Harris but it can't be because he has this Liz Franck injury injury that nobody wants to talk about he's limited he's not 100% that's why the offense is spiraling in my opinion and I don't know if they can get the ball to them because of the offensive line my thing is if you have a dog wide receiver and Charlie correct me if I'm wrong K check correct me if I'm wrong which one right it could be two wide receivers in the tight end it could be a receiver in the tight end it could be three wide receivers they have that right they also have a young tight end that is kind of special you can actually open up the run game help out this struggling offensive line struggling running back who's dealing with this Liz Franck injury and get the seams to be even bigger because you got these receivers pick up 15 that's an extended run right if you got back shoulder to clay pool what has to happen that safety now has to get out of the box go over top of him so what does that do it makes it easier for the offensive coordinator makes it easier for the offensive alignment and the running back so I actually think to get to the run game they should be very intentional in their smart pass plays because that will open up everything we'll see if it happens tonight Charlie you know that's kind of I mean it seems to be like what's going on on Twitter I'm sure on local radio which you're a huge part of is that what it comes down to on offense well it starts there only because he's calling the plays but to your point Naji just to me I just don't feel like he is 100% from the first day of pass that's when he injured his foot he did not have the opportunity to go through training camp we just became recently aware of it was the Liz Franck next level that's just something I'm going to continue to pay attention to but quite frankly playing that position this is something that he's going to have to manage throughout the entire year so hopefully it gets better and doesn't get any worse Miles Garrett versus Mitchell who you got in this one Charlie before we let you go I mean I have to go with my Steelers right now I think they figure out a way to scratch and claw right now this is Cleveland and Pittsburgh and being from Pittsburgh you know you can't lose to the Browns and I just don't see that happening in this particular case in a low scoring game I do think the Steelers prevail in a manner of 16-13 somewhere around there Steelers have dominated the Browns in this rivalry for years past we appreciate you Charlie Bats for being here Brad and Marshall Moonlighting is the I am athlete takeover of our show which we love and we'll be watching that game hours for now of course to kick off week three I want to give you a couple minutes here you came on the show Friday we were loving Jaylin Hertz we were talking about the impact of A.J. Brown how your one part A.J. Brown I want to let you gloat here about this Eagles team that might be Super Bowl bound the way they look right now listen after week ten just call me okay say Brandon you sit it yeah you might everybody was like what did you say well I'm about to say it now they'll be nine and one after week ten they're special they are are Super Bowl special yes yes now I mean they got a lot of work to do all these teams do it's still early but there's always that one team there's always that one team like the Cincinnati Bengals made it to the Super Bowl yeah they had a run like this are you kidding me this is this is that team if they stay healthy this team is only going to get better it's if Jaylin could keep passing the ball and look like that consistently then they will go to the Super Bowl I think it doesn't matter it doesn't matter about like how they get it done that's the special thing they can he can throw for 300 he can run for 100 yeah right he can throw it to A.J. Brown he has 150 you have the other receiver the Vontae on the other side that can go for 100 and he got involved last week and everyone's getting busy they're not even got her they're not even in mid-season form yet some teams hit it the first couple of weeks some teams it takes five or six you don't want to hit it too early though it's always the thing you don't want like you were saying quickly where should Odell go Odell go back to the team that you know where I would love for Giants there's rumors there's rumors there's legit rumors that you might he should have never won a Super Bowl no I was like he should have never left but he went on and his journey is his journey and he won a Super Bowl if he didn't leave he wouldn't have a Super Bowl I like him in New York I like Odell in New York because Odell's like bigger than life you need to be in a bigger-than-life city LA can work go back to LA I like him in LA yeah he'll go back to LA but I would love to see him back I want him in Green Bay Green Bay hell yes that makes the most sense I love Aaron Jones and I love A.J. Dillon did you see him in Buffalo Aaron Rodgers and Odell yeah but then it's like one of those I don't like those Super teams as much he was hugging it up with Tom Brady you saw that yeah I know but Brady brought in Cole Beasley Brady's a whole other mess of worms hold on here's the other thing we need to understand about Odell I don't think Odell is going to come back for another six to eight weeks yeah like I think he's taking his time but I cheer for him I want him to have the best Super Bowl I thought they were toast and then he got his win OBJ yeah come on the show OBJ he's always in LA has he ever come on I am athlete no he keeps telling me not yet wow but he'll come to on your show we need to get Jay Cutler in studio next time with Brandon Marshall Eric Weddell is joining our show after this Weddell say what up to Brandon Marshall I love you we've drafted the same year I love you family here believe that wow Brandon Marshall was incredible Charlie Batch we appreciate you getting a set force and Thursday in action and the guests keep coming here as they do on Up and Atom somehow please tweet us at Up and Atom show my dad just texted me in Polish Arlamasi Szygoszczal again the Chicago Bear so cool about Brandon Marshall because my dad doesn't even like football but of course he remembers NFL for 13 seasons with the Chargers the Ravens and the Rams two-time all pro Super Bowl champion the one with the drop top thing couldn't be like the cat whatever you call it the Super Bowl ring that's crazy Eric Weddell how are you okay what's going on had some great company on the show today with B Marsh man we had I remember B Marsh was like the original monster at Wider Sea I mean he was incredible so fun to compete did you ever line up against him what's that did you ever go out I know you guys got drafted the same way did you ever line up against him yeah I mean he was in Denver my years in San Diego so we we had many of battles many tackles and a lot of laughs amongst our years together it was it was always good times playing against one of the best there's no one like him and it felt right now it's like AJ Brown their shades of that and then a little Mike Evans as far as body type with the toughness and what he's doing off the field is great too oh man he's a star yeah so we had him on the show today yesterday we had one of your X teammates who says you're one of the best friends funny program Danny Wood had very loving towards you he referred to you as family yeah what he's what he's one of my guys here we go it is to be your for that major hmm who would it be and why it would be Eric Weddle 100% it would be Eric Weddle because so he gets me he's a brother like he's he's literally family to me and and then he also knows my golf game so he'd pick you to be his catty what is the key to your relationship and what do you make of him wanting you to do that for him and I mean when he and I go back we instantly clicked when he came to San Diego I remember when he was on the Patriots he was on the kickoff team I was on kickoff return and literally we were I was trying to block him on kickoff return and then we'd laugh about those plays throughout the game and then we'd go off our separate ways and then we became teammates and our kids grew up together and like he said I know his game I know his mentality he's amazing at golf we'd have our battles back in the day when we were teammates now he's like a million times better than me but I know how to I know how to get him going I know I know what what makes him click and you know when the pressure's on he gets better and it would be an honor one day the US Open next year when he qualifies that I'll be right by the side either Caddy in or behind the ropes cheering him on every hole that's amazing that's what I said I said let's manifest this and say you do qualify and it'll look something like this like look this is a good look yeah I'll be right there baby whatever he needs he needs to pick up his divots I mark it grab his bag whatever yeah I don't think he's gonna pick me because I don't even know what a driver was yesterday I'm impressed with that I'll ask you this because if it's you and Danny and you guys need to force him I would just like to know what other two NFL players would round that out oh gosh do we want good players or I don't know I mean big wit is always he's a stud and a joy to be around so he'll be fun and maybe Adam Thielen you know he's been at Tahoe every year he's awesome so we've connected a few times so he'd be fun to join so you're the only defensive player yeah I mean obviously not a lot of DB's get out there Patrick P gets out there a little bit he does he thinks he's much better than he actually is on the course I know Nate Burleson I remember told me that Patrick took him out on the course and it was really serious yeah oh he gets after it now it's almost life or death with him he's all in which I'm much rather relaxed I want to have a good time I'm not really worried about who how good I'm shooting when it's no money's on the line I love that so let's go from the course to the field week two week three starts tonight some really good choice chef's kiss defensive performances did anyone stick out to you yeah I mean she's got to be the Jaguars doing what they did to the Colts it's hard hard enough to play great defense in this league with the rules and the passing game and the sophistication that is being run offensively but to be able to shut out a team let alone the Colts a division game who honestly I've had I thought would be a lot better than what they are right now and what they've shown over two weeks I know it's a long season but golly to get shut out is just not good and is super impressive there's my boy Deloitte right there with the Colts so you gotta any time a defense shuts out an NFL offense you gotta give them props give them love and they got a tough challenge this week at the Chargers though they do and so you know and Indy has a huge challenge too they're facing the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes so we'll see what they can do they're looking at 0-3 right down the barrel if anyone can bring them out I know it's Frank in that crew and there's a leader in the locker room who knows what it's like to go and play in a Super Bowl and he has some things to say about that team he was really frustrated after that loss he swore to force Buckner swearing I never thought that I'd hear let's talk about your old team the Ravens simply what is going on with the secondary well there you know they've had they've had some injuries over the last season and then getting those guys back then you're infusing some young guys some new guys some guys that just got to the team so it's a recipe that if you're not had those screws tight that big place happened and that's just exactly what happened they all played the Dolphins everyone's on the Dolphins bandwagon I'm not too sure to be jump on that real quick I think they're better than last year but do I think there are upper echelon team in this league that will show that this upcoming week but when you're not communicating you're not 100% on cue with your defense especially the secondary disaster awaits and it's unfortunate to give up a lead the way the offense played and the way the defense played throughout the game I mean up 35 14 start of the fourth to give that game away and obviously the Dolphins had a lot to do with it but a couple of those touchdowns are unacceptable and they know that they'll harp on it they'll be better from it but you don't want to look back at the end of the season and say that's the game that held us out of a two seed or a four seed or even held us out of the playoffs it would be real unfortunate I was trying to be a good teammate as we're trying to get to know each other and I was trying to lob you real easy they don't have Wink Martindale anymore but no you know change is good Ravens wanted to change and that's all right that's the NFL you know everyone very rarely do you stay with the same team as we all know that Mike McDonald's in there now and he'll do a good job and Wink's doing a great job and Giants are two and O because of Wink it might be the best edition of any franchise player or coach or what he's doing with the Giants defense over there we cooked up a new segment here on the show we're debuting something new between you no doubt Marissa McBride Brian Barton so excited about this because you are known as one of the grittiest players to ever play in the NFL so they sat here yesterday and thought what can we do and they came up with the grit list the grit list here we go starting out are we starting oh yeah I mean we got Travis Kelce of course he catches the ball he's cutting across the grain he's thinking he's going to score and here comes Derwin James one of the most dressed to do it comes in there puts his shoulder coils his hips and just body slams Kelce right here Kelce you're my boy but golly man we've all been body slammed and we've all been trucked but that's one of the top players I've seen in a long long time what else is on the grit list we got Swift right here coming on the back filled the fact that he slips falls gets back up and Jukes they basically the entire team of the of the Washington Redskins can we get some leveraging angles but that's just explosiveness that's grit that's the want to look at him hug up his teammates you're talking about just a natural athlete not getting the down hey I'm going to get up and score anyways and Jukes half the team why I'm doing it last one we got Ravens Hamilton right over here these are the plays it's teach tape shoulder leg with the shoulder we can't really hit anymore as defensive players so you got to do everything by the you very rarely get these blow-up shots and to be in the right position to go smack a little run back in the in the flats and making pale Edmonds yeah he's he's going to be thinking about that all week okay so let's review this is the inaugural grit list Derwin James body slam Deandre Siff what are we doing here that's what we got out of Eric Wettel there and then Kyle Hamilton's forced fumble two I think we might we might let you keep one on the grid list but you're going to have to remove them and update it with plays from the given week see if it takes over the top seed I like that it's going to be hard I don't know you don't like making decisions though so I you know I'm just too nice I got too big of a heart at times and not enough at other times it's so true so here's what we need have you judge maybe it's a mink of his Patrick play like bring on the grit for when surprise me he can make another pick six tonight oh I was putting that into the universe you're amazing thank you for stopping by and go out you know what are you doing mopping floors today separate in the whites from the colors what's on the Ladakh what do I got I got to get my play sheet ready for our game with some friends so I'm on daddy daycare this afternoon until practice and watch the Thursday night game when I get home that's perfect and you're re sorting out looking at Twitter for that grit list thank you so much anytime okay great to see you well you're the well I was so excited to talk with a body slam and you know Jason Kelsey brought it up to Travis Kelsey and it was a great conversation you got to listen to their podcast as well we'll be back with more up in Adams what a show we're just saying going right now well first of all we should just let everybody know we had a whole show planned and then Brandon Marsh was like I'll pop by studio and then was on and so incredible that we now have no show but it's great it is great we love it too much to talk about we'll put your sweating back there buddy I am I am sweating a little bit I'm trying to get this whole thing back on the trail so let's go let's go the first question and put the first 15 games this season I'm confused what's the other option what are you going to go to Trevor Simeon at some point in the season the rope is the longest rope of all time like what do you mean they host the Texans maybe they get a win maybe they don't they could lose every game this season I still think it's Justin Fields yeah you can't do nothing with them right what is that I don't understand I don't know either but that's I guess that's what Chicago Bears fans want to know it's how long you've experienced before come on I think we have let's take the next question alright Kay do you think Jonathan Taylor will get at least 100 yards a week 3 against the Chiefs I mean God willing I'm willing this to happen he's going to need to get 100 yards listen he's not the only running back with a slow start this season Conrad as you know all the stud running backs sort of slow out the gate this year we are headed to Indianapolis my friend we are you and I will be easy but they need to find a way to get the ball and Jonathan Taylor's hands I completely agree and they will you know what we are going to go to Indy we're going to talk about that more after this break are you leaving that okay I am a little bit of leading here I don't know what's going on just don't say something inappropriate like you did last time you were on the air we'll be back big one in Cleveland tonight's dealers come to town divisional match if you never know what will happen Miles Garrett likely to be destructive force Kanaji play through a Liz Franck injury that is being under mentioned by everyone across the board that's what it comes down to for me no TJ Watt how do they stop the running attack for the brown side as well tough game we'll see I will just say it's a must win game Brandon Marshall disagreed with me Charlie Batch disagreed with me the schedule for both gets gross after week five and they need a win both sides here in week three now I'm headed to be invited by the Ursay family and by the Colts to help with their kicking the stigma event we're doing a beyond the sidelines event talking about mental health and if you want to support it please hit this we're going to be talking about this tomorrow if it gets if we get good donations the next 24 hours I will get pied in the face by the Colts mascot who doesn't want to see that we'll see you from Indy tomorrow