 So, let us pray and let's begin this morning. I would like to request any one of us to please lead us in a word of prayer. Yes, Siddhi, can you please go ahead. Thank you. Father, we come to the throne of grace, Lord. Thank you for this session, Lord. You have given us, Lord. We will be clearing all our doubts in Jesus name, Lord. These are what we are going to spend, Lord, this day. What you have given us, thank you for this day, Lord. Many people are not here to see this day, but we are grateful to you, Lord, that you have made available and made us able, Lord. You have seen a lot in us, Lord. Whatever we are learning in this Bible college, Lord, let it be used for your kingdom, Lord. For the kingdom expansion, for the spreading of the gospel, Lord. Thank you for this day. Thank you for this opportunity in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Siddhi, can you thank you for leading us in prayer. So as we usually do in our mentoring hour, we will take up questions or anything that you have been thinking about, wondering about, and we have a faculty here on the call. So, you know, they will help answer those questions. So would just like to encourage us to go ahead and ask those questions. You can put it on the chat or you can even unmute yourselves and ask them. So please feel free to do that. These can be questions regarding something that you are studying or learning personally by yourself or they can be questions from some of the courses that, you know, are attending. So it can be questions from anywhere, just things that we are thinking about. Yes, thank you Avni. Avni has a question here. She asks, people claim to visit heaven and see their loved ones there. How true these claims are? So that's Avni's question. Just like to request our faculty, anyone, please feel free, you can go ahead and answer this question. Okay, I'd like to request Pastor Jaykumar. Pastor, would you like to answer this? Yeah, I'm just trying to see if there's a biblical, you know, president. Yeah, sure. But then visiting heaven, we know that it is possible and the Lord, you know, makes it possible because Paul had that kind of an experience. So we know that it is possible to whom the Lord, you know, takes them through that. So that aspect of it is, it is possible. And to see their loved ones there, well, well, we know that that is also possible. But the real challenge is, you know, to really discern and I can certify, you know, is it something of my own? Because that's what I desire. You know, that's that's on my heart that I want to see the loved ones there. And is it something of my own imagination? I won't see imagination, but it's my strong desire it will. And therefore, is it something that that's happening as a result of that, maybe a dream or something? Or is it something that, you know, real experience? So that would be, you know, that would be a very subjective thing. So I think my response is it is possible that the Lord would grant such an experience. And for, you know, for whatever reason it is, maybe to encourage, maybe to, you know, propel us further in the pursuit of God and the call of God. But the question is really to how do we verify it? I'm sorry, I was just trying to see if there's a political president. Yeah. Can I just leave it there? Thanks. Yes, yes, Pastor Shaw. Thank you so much. Thank you for sharing that. I'd like to leave it open for any other faculty if you would like to add to what Pastor Jekumar just shared, you can do that, please. Okay, Avni, I hope that answers your question. What I, what I'm actually the question this came to me was that do the believers when they die, do they directly go to heaven or is we all waiting for a judgment time to come? So where are the people before that? Is it heaven? And when people say they go to heaven and they see their loved ones. So I'm just saying, because it says in Thessalonians that those who die are sleeping in the Lord and they will also, you know, be alive when Jesus comes at the time of the rapture. So keeping that in mind, I was wondering, are the people already in heaven or they're sleeping in the Lord waiting for Jesus to come and, you know, we will all go together. We who are alive also will go with them to heaven. So those, thinking on those lines, I was a bit confused. Okay, maybe I'll just, okay, I'll just answer that part of question. Avni, so there are several scriptures we can look at, Philippians chapter one. I think you're the whole chapter, but then there is that section where Paul says, for me to be, for me to live is Christ, to die is gain. And then he says, I'll give you the exact words here, verse 23, he says, I'm hard pressed between the two, to depart and be with Christ is far better. Philippians one verse 23. So that means when he departs, that is, when he dies, where is he going to go? He's going to go and be with Christ. Another scripture, second Corinthians chapter five, he says here in second Corinthians five and to be, verse eight, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Second Corinthians five, verse eight. So when a believer dies, is absent from the body, he's immediately present with the Lord, right? Hebrews 12, I'm just giving you the scriptures here. So where do the spirits go, right? So of righteous people, Hebrews 12 and verse 23, it says that he's the God, he's a judge of all, the spirits of just men made perfect. So where do the spirits of just men go? They go directly to be with God. So to answer the first part of your question, when a believer dies, his spirit, and there is the soul part of the spirit, that means that part of the spirit that, you know, that has the faculties of recognition, seeing, knowing, hearing, feeling, all that. So that that's the soul part of the spirit. So that as a person, the inner person goes to be with the Lord. Now first of all is four. Paul uses the word sleep, which is translated in the English Bible as sleep, more as a description of the state of a believer. It doesn't mean that people actually go to sleep now. When a person dies, it's as though he's asleep, meaning when they sleep, the implication is we're going to rise up again, we're going to wake up. So that's the idea there in 1st Testament is four. It doesn't mean that there is a place where believers are asleep, or there's a state of us being asleep. No, it simply means when we die, we die. That means what happens when we die? James 2, 26, the body without the spirit is dead. So what happens when we die? The body is without the spirit. So it's not that the spirit is sleeping in the body in the ground. Now, when the body dies, the spirit leaves the body. Where does it go? The scriptures we've just mentioned, the spirit goes to be with the Lord. What happens to the body? The body decays. So there is no state of sleep. I know that some cults or some people talk about the state of sleep, this intermediary state, but that's not true because the Bible says the spirit leaves the body and goes to be with the Lord. So that is why when you look at 1st Thessalonians chapter 4, it says, when Christ comes, he will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. So that means those who have died in Jesus, where have they gone? They've gone to be with Jesus. That's why he's bringing them with him. And the bodies will be raised. So that means their spirits come with Jesus, reunite with their bodies and go up. So that's the other part of the question. Another third part of the question is, is there recognition in heaven? I mean, will we recognize each other in heaven? Of course. You know, for example, we see many examples we see. For instance, when Stephen was being stoned in Acts 5, he looked into heaven, his eyes were open, and did he recognize whom he saw? Yes, he saw. He says, I see the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of the Father. So he is recognizing whom he is seeing in heaven. John in the book of Revelation, he's able to recognize. He's able to recognize the 24 elders, the cherub, the angelic beings, the angels. He recognizes the elder who was speaking to him. Of course, he confuses the elder with an angel because he's never not encountered these kinds of, you know, these exist. So he falls down to worship the elder and the elder says, don't worship me. I'm just like one of you. So that's one thing. And then again, on the Mount of Transfiguration, Peter, James and John, when they see Moses and Elijah, they recognize them. Now Peter, James and John had never seen even a photograph of Moses. They had never seen him on Instagram. None of that. But on the Mount of Transfiguration, when they saw what happened, they knew that was Moses. That was Elijah. How do they know? They've never seen these people before. They never know photographs, nothing. You know, 1st John 3 says, when we see him, we will be like him. And 1st Corinthians 13 says, we will know even as we are known. That means the level of knowledge that we have in this spiritual state is going is going to be tremendous. So 1st Corinthians 13, 13, I think it is, we will know, even as we are known, that means we will know everything. And we will be able to, yeah, this is, yeah, 1st Corinthians 13, 12, we will know even as we are known. So there's going to be this, you know, even though we have never met Paul or David or so on, just like how on the Mount of Transfiguration, they just recognize that's Moses, that's Elijah, a spiritual sense, a spirit being recognizes other spiritual beings. So I think, does it answer your question? Thank you, Pastor. Thank you for answering Avni's question and good question there, Avni. Elisha asks a question quite related to what we are talking about. So Elisha's question is, what does the resurrection of the dead mean to Christianity? Will unbelievers also experience resurrection? What would the resurrection of believers be from unbelievers? So there are three questions that Elisha has asked. Yes, again, any of our faculty, if you would like to take this up, please go ahead. Yeah, Elisha, just to put it very quickly, we see three resurrections in Scriptures, right? Just to just give you a quick summary, we'll study this in detail when we talk about the end times. The first is the resurrection of the believers, all the saints. So when you talk about resurrection, we're talking about coming back to life into our state we're going to live for continuously thereafter. So there's the resurrection of believers at the secret coming of Christ, the coming of Christ for the Church, right? You read about this in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 and also verse current in chapter 15. We call it the secret coming of Christ or the coming of Christ for the Church or the rapture of the Church, just the same thing. So there's going to be the resurrection of believers, only believers, those who have died in Christ will happen. Then what we see is we have the tribulation happening and we don't know for sure whether there's going to, you know, how this is going to happen. But in Revelation, the 14th chapter, we see the 144,000 Jews who were martyrs who died during the tribulation. They are caught up into heaven. This is in Revelation 14, right? These were the 144,000 Jews and this happened somewhere around the middle of the tribulation. It doesn't tell us clearly there that, you know, that they were resurrected. But the language used, this is in Revelation 14 verse 4, is the language that is used, talking about the first fruits. So the language that is used there, it seems to indicate a resurrection. So that is another resurrection we see, right? But it's not 100% clear, I'm just putting it down as a resurrection. The third resurrection is at the end of the seven year tribulation. You read about this in Revelation chapter 20 and verse 4. It is the souls, it is all those who died as believers during the tribulation. They will be raised up. Okay, so this is at the end of the seven year tribulation. Revelation 20 verse 4. All those who died in believers, who died believing in Jesus, who were killed during the tribulation will be raised up. Okay, the third resurrection. All these three have to do with believers, only believers. Those have died in Christ. And then there's a final resurrection, which is at the end of the millennium, which is Revelation 20 and verse 13 or verses 12 and 13. That is every human person who ever lived will be raised up. That is the resurrection of the unbelievers. Revelation chapter 20 verses 12 and 13. Every human person will be raised up, and there will be the great white throne judgment. But that great white throne judgment is not the judgment of the believers. That is the judgment of only the unbelievers. They will already be divided. The sheep and the goats will be already divided. Jesus described that in Matthew 25. He said, you know, there will be the sheep and the goats. So that means they're already separated. And the great white throne judgment is only for the unbelievers. Believers are already judged prior to that. The believers judgment is for rewards, not for salvation. The great white throne judgment end of the end of the seven year tribulation, Revelation 20, is for the unbelievers, and they will be forever cast into the lake of fire. So what we've mentioned is three revelations, three resurrections, where only believers are involved. One, the last one is unbelievers and what? Is that okay? Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Lysha, for that question. We have a few more questions here in our chat. So Siddh Ganu asks this question. Okay, I'll just read it out for us. I have a question. It may sound silly, but as we're reading books or see in TV, is it possible like a man who have died to be reincarnated? So means a person died and was born after some time again, like the body was new, but the spirit is the same. So Siddh Ganu's question is about reincarnation. And he asks if any given person can die and be born again in this world. So yes, if any of the faculty would like to take this up, you can do so. I just want to say one verse that is Hebrews 9 and verse 27, which says very clearly, and as it is appointed for men to die once and after this judgment, so there's no question of reincarnation. Go ahead, Paul. Yes, Pastor, that was the same verse I wanted to share. No problem. Hebrews 9, 27, yes. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Pastor Jaikumar and Pastor Paul. So Siddh Ganu, is that all right? I think they've answered the question. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, Pastor. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Siddh Ganu. Okay, let's move on to the next question here. And John Paul, okay. John asks, from Revelation 22 and verse 2, I'll read the verse for us. It says, in the middle of its street and on either side of the river was the tree of life which bore 12 fruits. Each tree yielding its fruit every month, the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. So based on this verse, he asks, does this talk about the new Jerusalem? What does this mean to be healing of the nations? Would there be other nations in the new Jerusalem? Okay. Pastor, would you please like to answer this question? John's question? Yes. So John, the answer is yes. It is talking about the new Jerusalem, right? So in Revelation 21, after there are new heavens and the new earth, so after the great wide throne judgment, people are cast in the lake of fire, then there is the new heavens and the new earth. Second Peter chapter 3, everything is renovated by fire, cleaned out, then the heavenly Jerusalem descends from heaven, the city of Jerusalem, heavenly Jerusalem descends onto the earth. So physically or literally, heaven comes to earth. And so then Revelation 21 and 22 describe this city, right? And what, how the city will look like. And as part of the city, Revelation 22 describes this river of life flowing through the tree of life, being there for the healing of the nations. So several questions. Why do the nations need to be healed? So the tree of life, the leaves are for the healing. So when you think about healing, we don't have to think about that they're going to be sick to be healed, but rather this is the tree, the leaves of the health, the well-being of the nations. The word nations is literally means, it doesn't mean nations as we understand it, like America, China, Japan, whatever, but the word nations simply means people groups, kinds of peoples. So basically it's describing or, you know, the normal Greek word is etene, so these are people groups. So it's talking about all kinds like what, you know, John had this, you know, in Revelation 5 and also in Revelation 7 he says, I saw peoples from every tribe, town, and nation, right? So every people group. So saying that these nations means peoples of all tribes, languages, as we understand it, as earth people, they'll all be there, saved, saved people, will be in part in this new Jerusalem, and the leaves are for their ongoing health, the perpetuity of health. That's the idea there. It's okay, John. So does that mean all the believers' nations as a group of people? Yeah, all believers, all believers, those have been saved from all nations and all people groups. Yeah, just to ask one follow-up question. Yeah, so would the believers who were saved before the coming of Jesus, would it be the part of New Jerusalem as a city or the other nations as you mentioned? Sorry, say that again, John. What was the question? Say that again, please. Pastor, would the believers who are saved before the coming of Jesus, like before the rapture, those people be part of the New Jerusalem as a city or as a part of the nations that you mentioned? Yeah, so who would be in the New Jerusalem? All saints, all testament saints, New Testament saints, those saved before the rapture, those saved after the rapture, everyone. So right from Adam, all the way to see the last person who was born during the tribulation, during the millennium. So from Adam to the last person who was born, everyone who was saved, who has been saved by faith through the grace of God, all testament saints, New Testament saints, those saved during the tribulation, those saved during the millennium, everyone will be part of the New Jerusalem. Yeah, sorry, one more thing here. So who is this nations because everyone else is wiped out and I mean, let's say all the non-believers who are not believing in Christ are moved to eternal judgment. So from where comes this set of nations, Pastor? We are there, right? Talk about us. So nations simply means people groups. All right, all right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's not nations as we understand it, right? It's nations. So we could have read that verse as saying, I saw, you know, what was that verse again? What did you put? Sorry. Oh, your question. The healing of the nations. Oh, 22. Yeah, so the healing of the nations, the leaves, the tree were for the healing of people groups. It could have been rendered that way. Yeah, but the nations that word is confusing, but just means different kinds of races of people. Yeah, okay. Thank you, Pastor. And thank you, John, for that question. So far, you know, questions have come in. So thank you for that. A few more here in the chat. Elisha asks this question. What does this phrase mean? Pass over to the Lord from Numbers 9 and verse 14. Let's quickly read that verse first. So Numbers 9 verse 14. And if a stranger dwells among you and would keep the Lord's Passover, he must do it. So according to the right of the Passover, and according to its ceremony, you shall have one ordinance, both for the stranger and the native of the land. So his question is specific to that phrase there, Lord's Passover, a Passover to the Lord. What does this phrase mean? So it's open for any of the faculty to take up an answer. Yeah. So Elisha, sorry. It is just referring to the Feast of the Passover, which, like all the other feasts, the Jewish people were instructed to keep. So they have seven major feasts that every year they keep. And then there are others as well, but there are seven main ones. And Passover is one of the seven main feasts. Now, Passover is referred to as the Lord's Passover. For several reasons. One is because it was an ordinance given by the Lord. The Lord said, keep this feast, as a remembrance of what happened when the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt. It is also indicating that it was the Lord who passed over his people. The Lord protected his people. He became a covering for his people. And so the Lord protected, in that sense, of being a covering for his people. So that's why it's referred to as the Passover of the Lord or the Lord's Passover. But it's basically just referring to the Passover Feast. So we shouldn't get confused by the language, whether it's as the Passover of the Lord or the Lord's Passover. It's just referring to the Feast of the Passover. Is that okay? Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Pastor, I just have a question on this, Pastor. Is it okay if I can ask a question? Yes, please. Yes, Pastor, I was reading a couple of commentaries. And in numbers 914, it says that, and if a stranger, it starts off with a stranger dwells among you. And so the writer, I forget which commentaries this, but the writer says it could be also for Gentiles who want to follow the Feast. So they need to get circumcised. So the writer says that the Passover to the Lord is like, get circumcised. And then you can come in and participate in the Feast of the Jews. So I'm not sure if that is right. Yeah, probably. I mean, we have to read the rest of this. Yeah, so probably that's probably, you know, if you read numbers 9, the rest of it, it might be there. That's how the stranger should participate. And they did have the practice, right, of Gentiles proselytes, basically Gentiles becoming Jews. They would then go through the same rites of becoming a Jew. So I mean, to what you're saying, yeah, that's true. But I guess the question was, well, what does the Passover to the Lord mean? So I was just responding to that. But what you're saying is true, Paul. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you for answering Elisha and Paul's question. We have another question here from Divya. And somehow the questions seem to, most of the questions today seem to be about the resurrection and, you know, the rapture and things like that. So Divya's question is along the same lines. She asks, after the rapture and during tribulation, will there be people other than the Jews who would put their trust in Jesus Christ? Is the tribulation a time for the Jews to come to repentance specifically? Okay, so yes, there are two questions here. Yeah, I think Pastor, can I please ask you again to answer Divya's question? Okay, okay. Yeah, so let's see now, let's break the question down after the rapture. During the tribulation, will there be people other than the Jews who would put their trust in Jesus Christ? So the first part of the question, the answer is yes. There will be people all over the world who put their trust in Jesus Christ. How do we know that? We see in the book of, you know, as we progress from chapter 4, so chapter 4 onwards is describing for us what happens during the tribulation. And what do we see? We see, for example, in Revelation 5, so as we're progressing through Revelation, we get glimpses of earth, we get glimpses of heaven. So every time we get a glimpse of heaven during the tribulation, we see that there are people there who are redeemed from every tribe, tongue and nation. So Revelation 5, verse 9, you have redeemed us from every tribe, people and nation. Again, in Revelation 7, it talks about people who are worshiping the Lord and they have come, let's see here, verse 5, so Revelation 7, 9, again, it's always seeing this great multitude, people, tongues, tribes and nations. They're standing before the throne and who are they? Revelation 7, 14, they're the ones who've come out of the tribulation. That means these are the spirits of people who've died in the tribulation. They're before the throne and it says they're from every tribe, tongue and nation. So we know that people are from all the nations are being saved. Other things that we can also say is in Revelation 9, there are people, Revelation 9, 20, there are people from the whole world, the rest of mankind, who do not repent. That means on one side, there are a lot of people turning to the Lord, but on the other side, there are also people being in rebellion. In a couple of other scriptures, we see Revelation 13, the Gospel is being preached to all those who dwell on the earth. So Revelation 13 and Revelation 14, we see the Gospel being preached and the warnings being given to everyone on the earth. So there are several references through Revelation that show us that there will be people other than Jews who put their trust in Jesus Christ. The second part of your question, is the tribulation a time for the Jews to come to repent in specifically? Well, we have to understand the tribulation in two ways. One is this, the Bible calls it the time of Jacob's trouble. And the focus, let me put it like this, the focal point is Israel during the seven year tribulation. That's the focal point, but all nations of the earth will be affected. So everybody will suffer. So when you look at the series of judgments that are taking place, it talks about a third of vegetation being destroyed, so many things happening throughout the earth, global. So the impact or the effect of the tribulation is global, but the focal point is people of Israel. In Daniel chapter 9, verse 27, Gabriel speaks to Daniel says, I want to tell you what is going to happen to you and to your people specifically. So again, that shows us that the focal point of the tribulation period is the Jewish people or Israel, but the effects of all the judgments will be global. So is God doing it mainly to bring Jews back to himself? The answer is yes. How do we know that in Revelation chapter 11, verse 25, Romans 11, verse 25, Paul tells us that at this time when God is dealing with the church, he has temporarily turned his attention to the church until the fullness of the Gentiles come in. That means he's waiting right now, Romans 11, verse 25, for the Gentiles to come in. So then the last phase is, let me turn my attention to the Jewish people, but it's going to be a very severe way in which he's dealing with the Jewish people during that time, right? And it'll all culminate in Zechariah 12. There will be the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Jewish people. I'll give the exact words. Zechariah 12, I think it's verse 14. Zechariah 12, sorry, verse 10. So it'll all culminate with this. There'll be this great outpouring on the Jewish people that will cause a lot of them to turn to the Lord, right? And they will then see, they will recognize that they have, you know, they actually, their eyes will see the one whom they have pierced, Zechariah 12, 10 says, and they will see Jesus come back. So, to answer your question, yeah, that is part of what will happen during the tribulation. Okay? Thank you. Thank you best Roshish. One more, like it's, it is understandable, but like, so during tribulation, whoever comes to faith apart from the Jewish people, you know, the manner in which they come to faith will be really hard, right? It will be really difficult. Yes. Yes. And many of them will die for their faith. That's why we see them already in heaven coming up from the tribulation. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor Nancy, also for the reference. Yeah. Thank you, Divya, and thank you, Pastor, for answering that question. Taisa has a question. She asks, when people die, where do they go? Heaven or paradise? Can you give scriptural reference? Okay. So, do people go to heaven or paradise? Okay. We had answered, you know, a similar question, Taisa. Today, sometime earlier, and there were two references given. I'll just back up and share those references with you. One is Philippines 123. The other one, Second Corinthians 58. And in Philippines 123, where Paul says, for I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. So he talks about being with Christ, okay, or being in the presence of God. And Second Corinthians 58, where it says to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. So we know that, you know, a believer is present with the Lord. So in God's presence, but you're asking more specifically, is it heaven or paradise? Okay. So I'll just share what I know. But I think with scriptural reference, I'm not too sure if I can give you that, maybe some of our faculty can help me with that. But yes, we see earlier, like when we read about, you know, even Jesus, when he talks about Lazarus, Lazarus and Abraham's bosom. So we see that before the Lord Jesus died, and he, you know, he went and took the authority, like we read about him going and, you know, setting people free, right in the low parts of the earth. So we read about that. But till Jesus did that, we know that there is a reference to paradise. And paradise was also known as Abraham's bosom. But after the death and resurrection of Jesus, we don't see that reference. So, yeah, paradise is heaven is what I would say. And I would just request any of our faculty to please add or correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you. Okay. Pastor shared some references here in the chat, 2nd Corinthians 12, 4, Revelation 2, 7, which also say that paradise is now heaven. Is that okay, Taisha? Do you have any follow up question to ask? No, thank you. That's okay. No follow up question. I wanted to just confirm because that's what my, that was my initial thinking, but I just said, let me ask experts to just answer, because someone posed that question to me, and I answered them, I think now, since the resurrection of Christ, our day should be now heaven. But I said, let me ask to make sure I answered correctly. Okay. Sure. Sure. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, Taisha. Yes. So, if you have any more questions, anything else that you're thinking about, please do share, ask the question. Okay. Yes. Yes, Divya, you have a question. Please go ahead. This might be like, it might have been covered in some of our courses, but I just wanted a clarification, like when it says that Jesus Christ is our advocate, and he is interceding or he's mediating. So, my question is, what is Jesus interceding for us? What exactly is Jesus interceding? Okay. Thank you, Divya. So, Divya asks, Jesus is our intercessor, but what is he interceding about for us? Yes, some things we can see in Scripture, and I think maybe the main thing is for us to overcome, to be overcomers. So, and overcome various things. So, Hebrews 2 and verse 17, I think it cap 17 and 18, it captures this beautifully because it talks about Jesus being the high priest, and it says he aids those who are tempted. Hebrews 2, 17 and 18. So, as of a high priest, right, he's interceding, and what is he interceding for one is when we are being tempted, tested. So, that word tempted could or say it refers to any kind of hardship. So, whether it's a temptation, which is an inducement to sin, or whether it's a trial or a tribulation, which is, you know, life's difficulty challenges. In all of that, he's interceding so that we could be aided, we could be assisted, we could be helped, right? Now, unlike human intercessors who can intercede for one person at a time, he is the omniscient intercessor, meaning he can intercede for the entire church at the same time. So, that's the intercession which only God can do, right? Meaning, he's interceding for me, he's interceding for all of us, now all the believers all over the world. So, so that's the big difference between Jesus being our high priest and other people praying for us, right? So, but he's praying for us to aid us when we are being tempted, when we're going through life's challenges. The other thing we see in Hebrews 3.1 is that as a high priest, he's the high priest of our confession. So, that's the second thing we can see that he's standing before heaven. And Jesus put this in Matthew 10.32, he said, and if you confess me before men, I will confess you before my father. That means when we acknowledge him, when we acknowledge what he has done, when we testify to it, when we speak to it, then he's saying, I'm standing before that. I'm standing on or representing that before the father. So, he's the high priest of our confession. So, that's the other thing he's interceding for or representing us for, that is our confession, that the faith that we are professing and standing in and believing, he is representing that before the father and saying, Father, this, you know, that person standing on the word, we're going to send aid, we're going to make that word come true in their lives and so on. So, these are things we can see. And of course, Hebrews 7.25 says, you know, he saves us to the atom most. So, just dealing with whatever a believer is going through, save to the atom most, that word save again, means to heal, to deliver, to protect to the atom most, to the father's extent. Jesus is doing that for us. So, we could see this. And if you want to, you could also look at the Old Testament type, you know, the high priest there, how he went before the father, for God, carrying the 12 tribes, representing them, Jesus in a much greater way, representing all believers before the father. Yeah, I just had a question also regarding this. So, when it says in Revelation 12.10 that Satan is accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night has been cast down. So, is it, is it like Satan is continuously accusing the believers and is there a role that Jesus Christ plays in that now at the present time? Yeah. So, we need to understand that very clearly because a misunderstanding of that Hebrews Revelation 12.10 has given to this whole teaching on the courts of heaven, which, you know, which, which I think is a misplaced theology. But when you understand what has actually happened, right, we have to understand the full picture. So, we look at the full picture. What happened when Jesus died on the cross? Satan was condemned. Satan was judged. We were acquitted. And that means the work was done. And there are no more cases against us. Romans 8. You know, who will lay anything to the charge? Who will bring anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God who has justified. That means the believer is justified. The believer no long has to go and defend himself in the court before God. The work is done. Satan has been judged. You know, John, John 16.8 has been judged. So, that's done. So, there is no Satan at this point has no access into heaven. So, Revelation 12 describes him making an attempt to get into heaven. But he can't even get in there because Michael and the archangels are there saying, sorry, no entry. Right. So, he's making an attempt, but he can't enter. So, is Satan accusing the believer before the throne of God now? No. So, then in what sense is the accusation coming? It's, the accusations are coming to us in the area of our minds. Right. So, he's accusing us before God. So, he's coming and telling you and me we are worthless in the eyes of God. We are useless. God doesn't love us. God doesn't care for us. So, what's he doing? He's accusing us before God. Now, the other way to look at it is also in Hebrews 4. You know, Hebrews 4.16 says, that Jesus was tempted in all points like we are tempted. That means the way Satan deals with us is the way he dealt with Jesus. Do we have any record that Satan went before the father and accused Jesus before the father? Absolutely no. So, he doesn't have the privilege against us either. Right. So, how does he tempt us or attack us the same way he attacked Jesus in the area of our mind? And that's the way we should understand Hebrews 12. If you don't do that way, if you don't do it in the light of the cross, the finish of the cross, then we come up with this strange theology of the courts of heaven and believers having to go before God and plead their case. Remember, Satan is a finite being. So, if Satan had to have a court case against, you know, 1 million believers, your turn to defend your case will come, you know, maybe a thousand years from now. I'm just joking but, you know, how that's how silly that teaching is. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you sir. Thank you. Thank you pastor and thank you Divya for that question. We've run out of time. So, we will go ahead and pray and wrap up this morning's mentoring arm. I would like to request Divya, could you please lead us in the word of prayer? Sure, sure. Thank you Lord. Thank you Father for this wonderful time that you gave us, Father Lord, to understand more. Father Lord, to have clarifications, Father Lord. Yes, Lord, your word. Father Lord, as you have given us, Lord, the Holy Spirit, Lord, to inspire us to teach us, Father, the anointing that you have given us, Father Lord. Yet at times, Father, we try and understand in wrong ways, Father. Thank you, Lord, that you have given us, Lord, these precious pastors, Father Lord, and everyone, Father Lord, to help us understand, Father, to interpret the scriptures in the right way. Thank you, Lord, for every provision you have made. We pray, Father Lord, that as you shed light into all these areas, Father Lord, that we be brought closer to you, have a really closer person to walk with you, Father Lord. Help us be like Father, be established, rooted and established, Father Lord, and in your love, Father Lord. Thank you and praise you, Father, for this wonderful time. Thank you for every pastor, every student Lord who is here. Bless them, Father Lord. As we move on to our sessions, Father Lord, help us, Father, that we may depend on you, that we can learn and understand and apply it in our lives, Father. All these things we pray in the name of our Lord and save your Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Divya. Thank you, faculty. Thank you, students. God bless you. Even as you continue on with your classes, have a wonderful day. We will connect again tomorrow, the supernatural hour. God bless. Bye for now.