 Rwy'n cael y gallwch chi'n tych yn iawn i gondol y panthod yma sy'n ddiweddol sy'n teimlo'n ym annexion. Cyn nhw i chi', John Le Warth Tayson'r hyn? Diolch chi'n tych yn ddod y gwiriau'ch sannol a wna zen o'r erioed i'r unrhyw phaith sy'n ddifurdog 24,'r wyf, a tych yn neb erioed i'r wyf, ac rwy'n meddwl chi'n mynd i'r gyflwydd a'u CONDION, i'r cyfoesodd yw ddod. Fy ydy'r hanes uhyn, gwyntio'r hon i chi'n bosb am ardal i gyd. byddai'r bwysig i gyd yn mynd yn edrych am ddeallol a phobl, fel angen yn gweithio y ffrwyng, fe'n bwysig i'r bobl i'r bwysig i hynny, mae'n ymddur i'r bobl mae'n gwneud i ddampunio ac yn hynny, mae'r bwysig iawn i'r gw grammar. Yn ydych chi bynnag, byddai'r bwysig i fi wedi'u bwysig i chi i gael y cyfryd, byddi'r bwysig i'r dyfodol o'r py无 anser bod oes yn dod o'r strengthened ond fe iddyn nhw yn gyfnod. .. noticing that it will have a different effect on you after your relationship with that. You don't need to worry about anything. It's not always about that, it's just not your take-home thing. There's nothing that's going to happen in your life, just a- That's what I'm saying, because you can't have the same idea. There are a lot of things that can happen in the world. And the difference between your relationship with him and the other person. Rwy'n meddwl i'n gweithio, dyma'r dyfodol yn gallu c'n des i'n meddwl i'n gyffredinol, ond yw'r ydych chi'n ei chwilio i'w cyfan o'r bydd yn bwysig i ni. Ond o'r eu pwrdd i'r sefydling i'w gweld o'r hyffredinol, i ddweud i gael gwybod gofyn ni'n gallu gweithio i'r unigodol yn y dweud i chi'n meddwl i'r bydd ac i gael ypowerwys. Beth rai gyd wedi bod yn llawd o'r cyfeiliaid wedi hynny, maith diwethaf iawn o'r sefydliadau maith a'r wych o'r mynd, a rydyn ni wedi bod wedi'i gyd wedi cael ei gweithio. Byddwn ni eoundi gyd yn ysgyffffiron. Felly rydyn ni'n ddisgu'r gwybod yn marredu fynd, fe maith ag i gyd yn cael ei maith a'r hoff, byddwn ni'n ddod. Llywodraeth rydyn nhw fyddai ar yr hoff, aethayron gerddor ein gyrdd fel arfein, oes yn rhan o'r lain i'r hoff. Dyna felŵr i'w paris a llwyddo hyd wedi gweld Felly oes fel rhywbeth eich gwasanaeth Ddyddai eich gwasanaeth, eisiau iawn, o fflawn Yn y gallwn adael, rygwch eich gwnau Yn mynd i pham, dwi'n smerlen Gweithio eu gwirionedd Ac nid o'i gael gennym Chertyn o'r dwyaf yn digwydd Wrth i'w ni'n gweithio'r fath Gweithio gyda'r rhai Clychwch yn rhaid o gweithio a digwydd Dydw i gallu swydd iawn, na allan Da'ung rhain yna ddweithiau a gwyelwch gan roedd ei ddragu a chyfoddio'r gwaith ar gael. Mae'n gilyf yn fwy o gychyd hätteisio'r golygu, ac fyddai'r ffysgol, mae'r gwaith ei fwrdd yn oed hynny ac mae'n groes ond mae'r gweithio'r gwaith, mae'n hynny, ac mae'r gwaith yn ystodd lle, a'r wych yn gwneud o'r gwaith't, mae'n admpai'r pwysig yn rincolio'r gwaith gwneud, yma gwybod yw iawn gwneud a chweddio'r gwaith i ffyrdd. i'r ddechrau c婆iwl ar y dyfodol ghrus o'r cyfleu i gynchau'r rhywbethau a'r dyfodol gynchau'r gyrfoddol i'w dechrau, be mae'n ddorol, mae i'n ddorol, ond mae'n gyddon nhw gwyrdd i gyddon nhw. Ac yna'n gallu gwneud o ddau'r cyffredin, mae rydyn ni hynny yn llawn i gyd yw'r rydym ni'n i gweithio? Yn yw'r 28 ystod, mae i chi dduodd i ni? O mae'n gyddyn ni'n ei ddwy i'r lath iddyn ni? Mae'r ddweudon yma yn gystafell. Mae linegon o'n reilio'n ddweudon i chi i ddweudon, a byddwn ni'n i gael i wneud ddim o fath, mae pobl yn dweud hynny os yw'n dod. A mae nhw'n ddiw i'n gweithio mi'n gwahanol o'r bach. A dal i dim ond mor ychydig mewn tŷrgfyrthau. Mae'r duch yn ddweud. Dyna maen nhw'n ddweud? I wnaethaf, mae'r ddweudon i'n ddweudon. A wir rywbeth am oed. Mae'n lw癮ch ar gyfraith. Efallai dyn nhw'n iddynt i'r rhai pump yn ddigadio i rhai peth yn rhai bwysig. Rhai bwysig yn y byd��. Yw'n bod i'n ymgyrchau am yn y cyflodol. Pan yw hyn yw'r insecurity o'r sphyngau, yw'n byddiol. Yn mynd ei wnes yn dduadol, gan y gallwch chi'n bydd y cyn gladio'r cyinfugoriad i'r cyflodol, o deilliei'r byddiol, ac tali'r hynny i gynyddoedd. ROddi'r cyflodol o'r cyffredd yna gydylltaeth gyddiol. Gyd Mae dod o'n bwrdd, mae'n gofyn i chi ddim yn wahanol ac i chi ar unrhyw yr ysgol. A'r bach a'i blaen oedd prosie Girls Sand, mae'n gofyn o'r bodd i'w pob iddi'ch wedi hwnnw fel ystod doedd. Ac fod wedi bod wedi bod, mae'n gwybod i'r bach i dda ni'n gofynu'n gwybod, mae'n gwybod i'n gwybod i'n gofynu'n gwybod, mae'r rhai sydd wedi bod pob ydw i'r bach wedi bydd y gwaith? Ond yn gallu'n dangos gan y buf yn rhaid gan hyn, Rwyf ond hefyd, wrth I ddwy iawn, wedi bod yn gallu a fudds. Rydyn ni'n gyfeilio'n gyfer y llei, ac mae'n gwneud ni'nch gwisio a'n chi'n ffais i'w wahanol. Neb i'r cael ei ddaf yn amddangos i'r cyddiwr i ddweud hynny o'r 4 gwmpilol. Rydyn ni'n gwestiynau bod gyda'r gwmpilol, cwrs mae'n ddw i'r gwmpilol, ddim yn gwneud o'r bulla Thoseing. mor, wrth gwrs, mae'n i'n mynd i'n ei wneud o dod i'r ynchinedig o'r wych i gymru, a mae'n iaciwch dda i'n iwi allu rhoi. Felly fe wnes o'n dweud i amddangos. Er mwyneddwch, rwy'n i'n oed yn ei clywed oios eu ffair gyda'u. Felly rwyf wedi eu ganddo eich wneud. Mae'r pwyntaf ar y cyfweld oedden i siaradau gyda tyfan yn Taršon ac Parra, ac mae'r iawn i'n i gael ychydigodd o'n i'r llai i'r wyth. .. Questions, and I sort of finished my footage. I looked inside and walked into my room and I could hear through the door, he went to Paris. What's up with him? And she went, he's not here for that, he's not here to have one big fight ... ..and earn some money and go, oh, you do it, you do it, if you don't I've earned a few quid off it, what's it now? And he came and went, what's up? I went, I'm not interested mate. If you want to walk into what I took disagree into four warm up fights. I said if you want to have one big fight, like I'm not the man for this job, not interested. I don't care. A heilio hyn o'r hollig. I know I'm going to earn money, because I know I'm good at my job. And I think that for him was, okay, I thought this person was actually in it for the long run, and he gave me a bit of confidence in what I want. Or just yours and all? Yeah exactly. The initial going through the business side of things to get the deal for the comeback Yn y ddeg arno, fynd wedi bod yn osio'r grannu sgwer y brif. Roedd hi'n gweithio ddim yn ystod. Roedd ydw i ni'n rhiwun fod yn amlwg. Roedd ei wneud o'r bodai bwysig bwysig, mae'n gwneud o'r bwysig bwysig bwysig o'r bwysig bwysig. Roedd hi'n rhaid i'n bwysig i bwysig. Roedd hi'n gweithio, but ydw i'n ddeg. A boedd i'n gwneud o'r bwysig... Roedd hi eu ond i'n ddim yn ddeg唉wch. I'll be alright, you're gonna be alright. Went back, sparred, time and everything like things that you'd think would be off time and distance. It was just playing around like everything was still down. I thought, interesting. And then as time went on, it's sparing more and more, but it was very up and down. And I think again a big part of my job, old head on young shoulders, people wouldn't expect that type of dynamic. That thing was, I sort of used to look at it as there the guidelines. If he goes above that, I know he's going to crash. If he goes below that, not good. If we can see him in between these two guidelines, quite balanced like we're doing well. So there have been moments where it's very easily influenced Tyson, very easily influenced like a big kid really at times. And you just wouldn't expect someone that big achieve what he's achieved, such a character to be so easily influenced. But if you went, literally I always say this, if he went, I could run through that wall, it would start off as a joke. But do you know if I went, I think you can, all of a sudden it'd be. I can! He would actually believe it, you know, but I used to purposely do things like, if I'm strong or this or that, messing about. And I'd go, you can't do 10 reps without weight. And he'd go, watch this then. And I'd get that extra step out of him. And then there was, I was so, I found, I thought it was so important to get away from home, get into warm weather. Get him in a good mode to get to Marbella. A part of me taking on this job was the agreement that we were going to go away to Marbella to get him away from everything. Just focus on getting some, crashing a bit of weight off early, giving him time to rest and recover from crashing the weight. Let his body get back to normal, then going to a warm up fight. And he was a bit against the going to Marbella because he's out of your comfort zone. He's got me thinking, I can do this from home. And I remember, while we was having this discussion, we were getting ready to go for a run. And the kids were screaming, I want to come, I want to come. I was thinking, this is why, you know. And we set out, but he lives along sort of the sea from. So we went out for a run, crashed the wind and the rain and everything from the sea crashing in. And the kids, ah, scooters broke, screaming, got a mile up the road. I was like, look, this is why I'm saying we need to get away. Just fully focus on yourself, doing what needs to be done rather than this will end up taking 12, 14, 18 weeks when we can get big results out of six weeks and then calming things back down. No, no, no. And then all of a sudden you turn around, I booked it. We're going tomorrow and I was like, tomorrow? Yeah, and we're driving. What are we driving for? He's saying this to me. Don't worry about it. This side of England will be the worst part of the journey. Once we get through to the other side, it'll be easy. I'm thinking, OK, get up in the morning, set off within two hours. Ah, let's just turn around. He's coming. You said to me, this bit of England. Yeah, you said to me that England's going to be the hard part. And then once we got through to the other end, sorry, we stopped off at a petrol station. And he sort of said to me, listen, I can only apologise. I'll just, you know, let's turn around. Is he getting scared? I don't know what it was. I think it was just a case of the drive was difficult. The journey was like the journey. Leaving his kids and family as we are. His message is he's rock. The kids were there. He had the little one screaming every time we phoned through from the car. So I was in a different car. It was a bit like the journey. He had already said this to me. England, the journey part of England to get down to the Euro tunnel was going to be the difficult part. The first stage of this comeback was going to be the difficult part. And we got to, I think we got a cross actually to France. And he was like, look, I can only apologise. I'll pay you whatever you want for your time that you've put in. He said, but look, let's just go. He actually said, let's just go to Disneyland for a couple of days and turn around. I was like, I didn't come in for this. We're going to stick it through. We're going to get there. Let's see how we feel in a moment. And Tyson's brother, Huey, I've got out the car face like a smack. And he was like, what's up with him? He was like, he's come to do what needs to be done. We knew that this was ahead of us. We need to get there and get to work. He was like, oh, see how we're feeling in the morning. Obviously woke up in the morning better mode, got going again. And I remember that as soon as the sun, this is my thing. Get him in the sun, good environment, healthy, clean. I think it's probably a lot cleaner to live cleaner in a warm weather scenario. And it'd been negative, negative, negative, negative. It was almost like the sun, poof, hit the car, fun for it. I can't wait to get there. I was like, this fella's off his trolley. But once we got over there, it was really good results. Day to day, he was always up and down. But I could say the key was to try and keep him in the guidelines. And then he had the two combat fights. Who was at his first combat fight? Were you nervous? Because I was all, I hate Pabota. Yeah, I think I sort of thought we knew what to sort of expect. Like it was more about the show event. He wasn't quite, if I'm being honest, mentally stable at that point. He was more about the event than the actual fight. Like the fight was never going to be competitive, you know? But people loved to criticise us. You know, so people was expecting a barnstorm or a fight. And it just wasn't the case. It was a combat fight, almost a signal. You know, positive things are ahead. It's going to happen. How was it before Grant in the Ring? Yeah, one thing I say about Tyson is I think he probably feels more pressure fighting someone that he's just completely expected to beat than he does when he's fighting someone that people are like, hmm, I don't know if he can do this. That much barat gyps of blood because Billy Joel's the same. Yeah. The other levels tenfold that nobody thinks they've got those levels. And I feel as if they two are constantly proving people wrong. They're whole boxing career. I don't think, even though they get the respect of a lot of people, but I think they should get a lot more for actually what they've achieved. They're still being, I think, is it both fair enough? I don't know. They're both fair enough. They're both unbelievable for what they've achieved. And again, but when you watch the fights, I don't fucking know, I'm not a coach. But you kind of see when it's the ones expected to beat, they kind of take the foot off the gas a bit. But when it's against the big names, your clutch goes, your canelo's coming up. They go through the levels and the training seems to go through the roof, which is a good thing, but when you are there, because it always seems like a showman in the changing room ties him before a fight, showing off in that. Was that any signs of that at the first fight, the comeback fight? Yeah, to a degree. The comeback fight was like everybody wanted their face on camera and the changing room was full up and it was a bit of a circus really, if I'm honest. How does that irritate you? Yeah, because I think, well, nobody else matters. I don't matter. Nobody matters other than the fighter. I've always believed this, like if you want to be the star, do the fighting. Do you know what I mean? Earn it. So it was a little bit of a, but then that was why I remember we said, look, you know, the next fight is a bit more of a, not a competitive fight when he's at his peak, but during the comeback lost a lot of weight, still had lost a lot of weight between the first fight and the next fight. You know, it was going to make it more of a competitive fight. Is that quartz? Who's that? It's against a guy called Peoneta. Peoneta, and then who was after that? Who's the guy? Gwelder. Gwelder. And then Tom Schwartz. Schwartz. Yeah, Schwartz. So you had Gwelder, so Gwelder was on the fford faint, not the fourth? No, so the agreement was four warm-up fights and then even going into the Peoneta fight, it was like talking to this, because Gwelder had come to the fight, it was talking to this Gwelder fight. I openly said, you know, I think, you know, not that he couldn't win it, but you was really diminishing the percentages and getting it more narrow than it needed to be. Why would Gwelder take that fight? He thought it's a name I've blown his feather away and got a good name on my record. That's what he thought. He tried to get me in quickly. I was looking for a note to say that you'd think it was a bit illiterate, and just coming back after three years, two warm-up fights, and then to fight one of the best knockout artists in the boxing game. He was no mug, do you know what I mean? But then what was your training when he took that fight? What were you thinking? Did you ever try and stop that? Yeah, I openly said, like, this is a step too early. Yeah, like, you're just diminishing the percentages and making it closer than what it needs to be. And he was adamant that he wants to do it, you know? This is what I want to do. And... Do you think that's the addiction habit as well? We're not... We spoke, and I'll try to constantly prove people wrong, but his self-belief that he can run through a wall, he probably would. Do you think that's what he needs, though? That the one that nobody thinks he could win because he's just came back to then make him progress and kick on and prove people wrong? Yeah, I don't know. Because that's a bit psychotic to then go, well, fuck it, I'm going to take the undefeated fighter, knocked out everybody that's fought, three fights back after a three-year layoff. So in terms of boxing side of things, I thought you're making this closer to fighting needs to be a lot more if you just take your time and have another fight or to take more so time for your body to recover from the weight loss. But what I will say, in terms of overall, I think it's the best thing that could have happened to him. Not the actual fight and the performance, but the pressure and the, okay, I've got focus on what's ahead of me and the job that's coming up. I've got a goal rather than losing a bit of weight, got this fellow I can box and I can beat him, but there is no complete... I need to be 100% focused for this. Where he's going into the wildfire, I just think that that really helped his mind. He had a focus, had something he no need to do, it was a bit of pressure on him and made him mentally a lot more stable going into that fight. And then obviously what happened in the fight just turned him into a megastar. He should have won the fight, man. He should have won the fight. I think that's because he was in America. He was always wary of that. Always wary of that. And actually it's funny because we was arguing we won an English judge, we won an English judge, we won an English judge in there. One American, one English, one neutral. It was the English judge that scored it a draw. So it was a case. Do you see a lot of that in boxing? Two megastars fighting. Is there a lot of that kind of corruption with scored cards? It seems to be getting... How someone can score that one-sixteen, one-twins a wild? I just can't... I don't know how you can come to that. What will you find coming ties and getting put down in the last? I genuinely thought it was over. When a fighter goes down, they're going to get up. Usually something is moving. They are moving, whether it's their hands moving, their foot's moving. He was just still. It took him four seconds before. Boom, okay. I don't know whether he was out. I don't know if he was going okay. Take my time. One thing that was funny in the preparation for that he kept saying, and I'm so adamant about this, he kept on saying to us, to the aspiring partners, if I get put down, it's okay. I've been there before. I'll wait to the eight count, then I'll get up. I'm experienced. And if he hits me flush, I probably will go down. That reality, I think, was why he was able to get up. I think it was a case of he'd said it so many times, it was subconsciously in his mind, if I go down, I'll wait for the eight count, then I'll get up. And he'd said it so many times, I thought, he was probably subconsciously, okay, then the ref was counting in his face, in the case now I'll get up. Whereas if he hadn't been realistic with himself, he was confident but realistic, and that was the important part of, if I get it clean, a good chance I'll go over. What are you thinking then, though, if you're thinking he's won six, seven rounds in front, that he's cleared that eight rounds, and then he gets put in his ars in the last, what are you thinking? So at the time I thought to myself, there's people going, oh, you know, at the time it was that I got the tactics right, but there definitely was moments where he could have pressed the pace against Wilder, but my whole thing got into the fight, is I don't know what the fuel tank's got. I don't know what the fuel tank's got. We haven't had 12 elite rounds that he's fought, or we've not had four one-warp fights, picking it up, picking it up, picking it up, and I can go, right, this is what's in the tank. This is where we're at. I thought to myself, I don't know how he's going to do the round. So at times where he could have probably pushed the pace, I'm thinking, we need to be safe here, and gradually, because gasing out and standing in front of Wilder is not an ideal place to be at all. So for me it was a case of we need to be efficient, and control the pace, because I didn't know, being completely honest, I can sit here and go, yeah this, yeah that, but at the time I didn't know if he had 12 elite rounds in the tank after the weight loss and this kind of things. And I'd actually said to him in the corner, when you drop him down to your right, you need to step in, drive your shoulder into him and tie him up, not just dip, because there's a chance you get caught dipping and get caught down there. I said to him this a couple of rounds, and that was why he got clipped the first time as well, because he dipped down rather than close the distance, or dipped down and take half a step back, he didn't adjust distance, he just dipped down and got clipped up back of the head. And the same thing happened for the last knockdown, he dipped down, didn't smother or step back, just dipped thinking Wilder's going to punch six foot past, but by this point Wilder had anticipated he was going to drop down there, boom, boom, and caught him on the way down there. I was thinking at the point, why? I was thinking to myself, God, why? Why have you took us this far to then do this now, you know? And then the whole get up thing, I just feel like that was just meant to happen. It was like the whole story of, I got knocked down, I got back up again about his whole journey, and then it actually happened in a sport at the moment in the fight, and that moment will forever go beyond sport, because it's just a sign of, he didn't just sit there going, yeah, if you get knocked down, you've got to get back up, you've got to fight online, it actually happened. He said it and he did it. And for so many people I've got thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of messages of people saying, I took so much inspiration from that, that moment in boxing saved my son's life. Yeah, one million percent he did. I know for a fact he did. It's phenomenal man, and that's why he's so loved, but you've still got to get credit for the journey that you've went, because he could have probably quit numerous occasions when you were there in the night never of being back in a boxing ring again. How did you absorb that? Were you going in with a game plan? Then for, okay, we've got four matches. How were you thinking if he's eating and drinking, I don't know if he was drinking in, but were you going in the mental battle to keep pushing him? What was your plan? Were you just going in and winging it and seeing what you could do or the Java strategy? Yeah, I did have a strategy. It was a case of, right, if we go into intense straight away, I'm never going to do it. Mae Dana tried to make a comeback. From the training that I saw, I thought, you're training like you've got a fight around the corner, like three weeks out from a fight, but you're a million miles away, you're dropping a bit of weight. You don't need to do that, because you're going to think, well, it's tough to do that for 12 weeks of a training camp, so never mind doing it for six months to get a bit of weight off. My whole thing was he doesn't need to work that hard to get the weight off at first with how big he is. Then give him a little rest period once the weight comes off of him, get a bit of rest, let the body recover a little bit, then pick up the intensity for the first training camp, and then gradually, like I say, pick up the opponent and the levels of the opponents as we went on to see where he's at and gauge, you know, how his body's recovering. But, you know, he took that wild fight soon. What about the run? You took him in the mountain, you were going to walk up or something? Yeah, there was a run that we used to do in my bar called the Istan Mountain, and I thought to myself, he was on a ketogenic diet at this point, and I thought to myself, we don't need to run up it. Again, intensity hasn't got to be mad at me, like the boxers do that for their fight camp. I was thinking, let's just take a walk up it, one of the fellas can drive in the car, walk up, drive back down, good work out, but not too intense. So he got out of the car, stretching, I'm thinking, wherever this lunatic doing, a little loosing himself up, boom, starts jogging. I thought, it's going to last five minutes here, and then we're going to start walking. Anyway, it keeps going, five minutes later I'm thinking, it won't be too much longer, it keeps going, won't be too much longer, it keeps going. The whole way up, then starts sprinting halfway through. I'm thinking this fella's off, he's trolling at it, got a few young lads round him as well. He's pushing them on, til I was like, right, we're at the top now, once we was there. And he went, is this where everyone stops you? I went, yeah, he went, the gypsy king don't stop here, then he went, we're going all the way up to the top. So he just had to do that a little bit more than everybody else, and I thought, there's something about him, not boxing ability, but there's something about him in there, and up there. That's what separates the weak from the strong. I believe though, that's how he's made the comeback that he's done to be the most spoke about boxer on the planet just now, do you know what I mean? It's a phenomenal achievement, and you were looking through that then, he fought it one effect, did that affect him? Because it seemed quite calm when it got called a draw. He was very calm. Why is that? Was he just happy to be back? Yeah, I think he fought, you know what? Everybody, everybody was like, he's getting blown away in three or four rounds. That is it. Even his dad was like, he's going to get blown away, shouldn't be taking the fight. I agree, he was diminishing the percentage chances. But I knew we ain't getting blown away. Don't get me wrong, if Wilder landed something early, it could have happened, because if it's anyone flush at any point in the fight, it can end. But I thought to myself, we need to land something substantial early to make Wilder go, you're not walking at me, because Tyson can punch, he can. And he landed something at the end of the first round, as if to say to him, if you're reckless, you'll get clipped yourself. And that we needed that. That was like, you better respect me and made a little bit hesitant, made him bite on the faint. So of course there was a game plan going into it. But I just feel like that was all meant to happen. The way the fight went, the knockdown in the end, the getting back up, the controversial decision, it all then led to the top rank ESPN deal. And that really took him to another level. Even though it was a draw, it took him to another level. Does that still ban you? It does, yeah it does. It's a 100%. I'd be a liar if I said it didn't. But again, I just feel like it was meant to be.