 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Ms. Jamaica, what's going on? Not, not, you know my dad? Man, well, you know, one of them guys is here, man, you know, this is the reason I do this, man, because this brother right here, see, this is going to get my young people in, see, I look at my analytics and they're really where I want it to be with them youngsters, man. This kid right here going to make it happen for me, he has vouched for it, he has became a player in the boss talk 101 game, man, Ziggy made it, he's in the building. What's going on, man? Let's go in and build it, man. Hey, man, you know, when I, when you was on here last time, man, it was just a delight, man, after you left here, I watched your moves, man, I seen how you was doing it, you was reposting stuff, he was on my butt about getting the stuff out, he was on me, man, he wasn't playing, man. Thank you so much for pushing me. You know, I got to stay on it, man. I'm old. So you probably want to push me again. Yeah, man. So how you been? Man, I've been working, bro, like for real, like, like I never had before. And then finish the graduate. This year, last year? Yeah. Yeah, man, you know, Duncanville, man, you know, y'all think y'all all at the football teams and all. I see y'all in the news, bro. Y'all really, bro, y'all, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I wish I was in high school, man. And I wish I was with a rival team, man. I pull up in the bus and I run that school over there like it was nobody business. You know, look, I can't say no to that. I don't even be looking at the sports like that. You don't even want to check at the sports? I do. I hear about it, but it's like. Y'all basketball team weak as hell. No, I don't. Oh, yeah, I thought you didn't look at it. See, I just shut that down. It was like, no, no, no. I know about it, but, you know, I don't be paying attention to it like that. But I know, though. But y'all coached the main head coach. He couldn't get it done again this year. He go to the championship, but he can't win it. But it's other schools that don't even go. Oh, that boy won. He got to come back to come back here. You know what I'm talking about? It really was real what you just said. Like, it's something never meant right. At least he making it. Right. But he's a dope guy, man. That coach is special. I've been trying to get him on the show. I did get the one from Sack on here, but I didn't get him. He the one mentor of him. He actually taught him. So that's dope, man. You know, y'all, at least you're on the winning team, right? So how is school? Do you really, like, what do you get from it? High school, I want to be there with you. Tell me how school is. School, like, school, cool, bro. Like, you know, I only said it because, like, you know, it's not bad, but it's just not, like, crazy, crazy good and it's just regular. Schools, regular, you go there, do you want to come back? No. Is it hard? No, no. Not hard. Well, you're about to go to college. You think college is going to be really hard? Well, no, I don't think college, I think college is going to be a big network thing for me. OK. Dope. So once I go to college, I'm going to, you know what I'm saying, I'm going to turn the college up, bro. Like, I'm already code with the beats. So imagine me bringing it with the Dallas flavor that I got right now, bringing it to whatever college I'm going to go to. It's going to mess their head up. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? That's what my daughter did. Like, when she's looking at colleges, she's looking at how she can network. If she don't see where she can network at that college, she won't even choose that one. Is that a big factor in you picking the right college? Yeah, it is a big factor, but whatever college I go to, I know I'm going to be outstanding whatever college I go to. OK, that's good when you have that confidence in yourself like that. Yeah, you are. So you you you ready for them girls up there to come in for your head. Now, I don't take that the wrong way. They coming for you. I'm not going to say too much. Yeah, yeah, now you're not going to say too much. But yeah, they coming like they there. They they a mom and them doesn't let them get away. You up there, you you your dad and all of me. He had all the college stories. You know all the stories, brother. What you going to do? I didn't heard a few. I don't know if you're too young to remember what what what what my boy said on on baby boy on the men's to the side of honey's on and you to pray and station them were going to college. You don't know nothing about this. But at the end of the day, when somebody going to college, man, you know what I'm saying? Sharif and station, all of them came and want to go. I'm not going to take it there with you. But I'm just telling you going to college takes on a whole another level of responsibilities. Now, what you going to do is get down there and you got to be going to class, partying. There's a story about a college. OK, this store, this college is what? Preview where they partied at 12 o'clock during the day on a Wednesday and then go back to school. Preview that. Yeah, the same day to go back to class. This college thing is different. Is that you going to be seen? What are you going to see you? Really, I'm looking at a lot of colleges. I got like I got, you know, you got accepted in a lot of different ones. I'm just looking and trying to see which one I'm going to go to. And like I'm trying to make sure I make the right decision, which, you know, I can't really be like up on it too much because, you know, when you think about something too much. Don't get stressed out. Yeah, you know, I don't want to let it stress me out. What are you looking from a college other than networking? Like, what what exactly are you looking for? But you don't have to have engineering like this. What you doing? Yeah, that's what that's what you're going for. So what else are you? What else are you looking for in college? All the cute girls? I mean, I don't go. I don't necessarily look for them. She comes to me, you know what I'm saying? You know, if, you know, if I do slip on, you know? Boy, you been out going out and had no kids. Come on. Bro, people doing it all the time. Bro, you be a young dad. Man, don't do it, bro. Bro, don't go down there like that. Why would you even think? Come on, bro. That's what parents do. They think about that. He said the same thing. My daddy, no, I'm not going to do nothing like that. Oh, OK. Wow. Well, I'm going to check it, right? The check it, man. You know, so you got a lot of different work that's coming out being an engineer and going to school for engineering is a lot of stuff you probably already been dealing with because of the fact of you being in the music as deep as you are at an early age and coming up, being in the camp, you know what I'm saying? You you P.M.G. What you you basically been around that your whole life. So you know the music. You understand what's going on. You made songs for Yellow Beezy, Trap Boy, different people. Give me some more names. Little runny, little runny, see J.C.C. Little see J.C.C. No, ain't nobody. You got a hell of a catalog catalog. So so what can they show you down there at that school? Only thing I can do is learn more. Learn more. I don't think I can do. I go to a class for eight out of your A.V. production. I'm going to only get better. I'm going to be so cold. Like it's not going to be nothing I can't do. Really. So this music, you so allowed to it. Because you learn a lot. You know, nowadays, a lot of people talk about, oh, you don't have to go to school. You just have to. It's like YouTube is the biggest university. You can learn everything you want to learn off of YouTube. So that's the thing is like, what are you going to learn at college that you don't already know? Because I'm sure you did all your research on YouTube and learn a lot of stuff already. Yeah, but it's that too. But it's the people you know, too. Right. I always got, it's not about what you got, how much money you got, it's about who you know. Because, you know. That gets you in them doors. Yeah. For real. Man, my god, Ziggy Mades is in the building. Second interview, spitting five jewels. Yeah, let any niggas feel it. Yeah, they got to hear this nigga today because at the end of the day, this young nigga, he get it right. Yeah, so if a young kid is out here watching you and because, and want to do what you do, how can they start doing that? Because you had the fortunate, you were very fortunate to have that in your high school. A lot of high schools don't even have that. I started before I even knew I had that in my high school, though. I started before I even knew it. But when I found out I had that program, I was like, oh, yeah, that's big. I'm finna take off right now. Line up. Yup. So what would you suggest for a kid, how can they get started? What should they do? They have to find, like, you know, they have to have a vision. If you don't have no goal, you don't have no vision, you don't have no set point of where you want to be in life, you just basically doing something for nothing. But you got to have a vision and you got to have a job, too. And, like, work ethic beats talent any day. You can have, you can be the coldest bee maker in the world, you can be the coldest rapper in the world. But if you're inconsistent, then your result's gonna be inconsistent as well. How hard is it for you to stay consistent? Because I still look at you as a kid. I know a lot of kids be like, man, I want to go out here and party. I want to go out here and hang out with my friends. I want to go do this, like kid stuff. So, how do you stay consistent with all your work and all the stuff that you have to do? Well, me personally, I never even, I got to change this, but I never been like an outgoing person like that anyway. I always stayed to myself. But that's bad and that's good because it increased my work ethic, but, you know, like my people skills is probably like, you know, and I can't network it like that because I'm always, you know, but that's been changing though. That's good, that's been changing. But once you get to college, it's going to change. Oh yeah, it's going to change, but you got to be able to balance that in your body. You got, it's all about balance. Well, do you think, I mean, what do people like Yellow Bees and M say to you if you get a conversation with them about your music or anything? Anything that they told you that was dope that you take the heart and you listen on? Whether it be with him, whether it was whoever else, any of the guys that you, because you making the sound for them they may want to articulate and say, hey man, you know this or that. How do you mesh with them? Well, really, he's just dead. Like, well, with Yellow, I've been knowing him. So, you know, and then like my dad, my dad had told him, he was like, oh yeah, you know, cause you know, he's like, you know, Ziggy making beats now, he's like, for real? And we see something in the next like, he told me, he was like, all right, now if it's trash, we going to say it's trash. You know what I'm saying? He was like, if it's trash, I sent him. And it was the first beat I ever sent it to him. He sent it to him. And I told y'all, like, he wrapped on it like two days after that. Wow. It happened just that fast. That fast. And like I said, how did, how did, and I got to bring this up, how did the traps when you go? Trap, they was on the same song. Oh, that was the same song? Yeah. Okay. And so that was the time when they worked with you on that. Right. Man, that's dope, man. How does that make you feel though as a one that's, you know, doing it? The one that made it happen. The one that, to know that you knitted in like that. Man, it feel good, man, but, you know, I looked at it, you know, I was over geeked because that was my first placement. So, but like, I had to realize like, bro, you cannot start right here at all, bro. That's it. That's it. So I was like, dang, and, you know, got some more on the way, but, you know, you don't get that. Let's talk about that the more on the way. Let's talk about the new, the new, the whole album that you're producing. Yeah. Let's talk about that a little bit. What's the name of it? Self-titled Ziggy Made It. Self-titled Ziggy Made What made you want to do it? It's always been an idea of mine. Me and my manager were talking about it. And he was like, man, you need to, out of all the songs you got, with all the artists that's not out, you need to put that on the album. It's going to do good. And then the crazy thing about it is we ain't going to put it on up. We going to put it like as an NFT as well. So that's what we going to do. It's going to go up. Man, I just can't, like, bro. It's going up. How hard was it for you to get into NFTs and to understand the concept of it? Well, I'm still understanding the concept, but I have people around me to help, talk to me about the NFT business and stuff like that. But the way that it's going is really going, everything is going to change. Everything is changing. Everything is just pixelating. Everything is digital. Everything is going to be digital. Exactly. That's dope, man, that you found it so early and your money is so powerful at the age you are now. If you, if any money you save till you turn 30 could be, it's something else. It equates to millions, actually. And I have a question. The company that you're with on the NFT, do they insure your NFT? Because, like, say, if something happened, you know, like how banks have insurance, insurance policies and stuff like that. That your money is secured. Does your NFT, is it secured? For sure. Okay, how is it secured? Like I said, I'm still learning it. You're still learning it, yeah. It's so new. For sure. Yeah, yeah. Because I know, because we had a guest that he was talking about. He was talking about how, like, whenever you invest into an NFT, you can get a return of a gold coin that's sent to you. And that's how you put that on the bed. You don't put it in a bank. Because if anything ever happened, you still have that gold coin as a security. So I like that fact, the way how he was talking. Like you're creating, recreating a different wave of money, a different stream of income. Because gold is never going anywhere. Back by real estate, it can be back by natural resources. All type of stuff. Yeah. The company that we work with, they have all these different avenues that they can cover. Okay. To make it valuable, to cash it in is still worth something right then and even later. Wow, that's dope, man. Like to be able to understand the algorithm of NFTs at such an early stage, and it's not really just been out a long time. It's not everywhere. And you guys are already dealing with it. And being a young man that's dealing with it, that's dope right there. And if it's something that I can, I can make a little money out of it too. Your boy right here, you know what I'm saying? You see how his voice has lowered like really? Yeah, I'll get in there with you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'll get all the way in there with you. But so, what's next for Ziggy, man? Cause you're gonna get up there at school, man. What if you meet somebody up there and they wanna get a beat and all this and you find somebody and you looking to build your own team? Like, what do you mean? You looking for talent? Like you looking for talent? You looking for that? You looking for that? Cause everybody, you know, got a artist that just mesh with them. They just, as soon as they do the whole project, will you work whole projects with certain artists? I have, but oh yeah. I got something with a murder game PB on the way. The whole thing produced by me, Ziggy made it. That's gonna be dope. That's what I was talking about. See, because that's where I seen a lot of them, like YG and Musa on a beat, you know what I'm saying? Different people, when you look at all the different ones, I remember Mike Wheel made it with Gucci, man. When he first, you know what I'm saying? Like you hear all of these different people, Drama Boy or that other dude, like it's certain ones you hear they get with a certain artist and they do projects and you never forget them because you hear them drop so many times in that music that you know, okay, man, Musa ain't working with him on that one. That ain't, I don't know, man. He should have stayed with Musa though. That's the way it be when you working. Your work ethic make people recognize you because you're working and you're working so much they keep hearing that drop every time. And that's where I like to hear it too because I know they're getting that money then, boy. Ooh wee, man. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, PB got something on the way, bro. It's too crucial, too crucial, too crucial, bro. Man, man, so man, like you one of those guys, like I said, I'm gonna be watching, like I'm gonna be trying to see which way you're going with your movement, man, because you know, I mean, I know we weren't your first interview probably, but boy, we were close. Ooh wee, man. And we was the dopest. Ooh wee, man. So you know, at the end, I'm feeling myself right there. Feeling myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm doing my thing right there. So you probably don't even feel that way. I feel you, man. You're my second, you. I think it's second interview. Second? Yeah. But this whole will end in it. It did, bro. You like, yeah, that's the one there. You don't know how many people was like, bro, he got an interview. He got an interview. Y'all ain't seen it. Y'all ain't seen it when I went to school. Ball's tall. Yeah. Ball's tall. I posted it, you know what I'm saying? Then we were like, damn. Watch when they see this one, because we been moving the numbers just, hey, man, yesterday prices ain't today prices. Prices went up. What? So we over here, different now, we growing. You don't know how many people were just surprised, bro. Like, and then they start, I told them like, go follow them, go follow them. And you told them, yeah, like that's where it's at. That's where it's at. Man, and you the only one that been on here still, like 17, really just doing something. You the only boy, nigga, you holding the crowd. These niggas ain't busy. They ain't working enough. 18 now. You 18 now? Yup. Man. Yeah, grown man. Bro, you ain't gonna forget about it as you go out there. You might be somewhere on what they call it. Shout out to big boy Niel up there and L.A. I didn't do something. When I blow up. Some more. When I blow up, coming from college or whatever. If I come back, when I come back home, I make sure I'm doing it. If you blow up or if you don't blow up, first of all, you already blow it up. But at the end of the day, when you get your butt back, I don't care if you don't do nothing, nigga. You cover it over here. We don't look at it like that. You family. You said, don't forget about it. Yeah, but you know when they monitor, if it blow up and you know you dealing with, you and Post Malone got a whole album together or something like that. I don't know, my nigga. I don't know, you know. He gonna be hard to read it, though. One thing I got from Sean Cotton, he said, you never really know somebody until they get money. This money calculator makes something else come out of you. You on a private jet, you coming home, everybody after you. They wanna talk to Ziggy made it. I had a boy like that over here once. He just made it back. Taylor Gabriel, the boy who left here, the boy didn't have nothing. I let the boy come over and do a few pushups with me. Next thing you know, from 17, 15, 16, all the way up till probably 23, 24, he come back to see me and said he had three meals and then he come back again and he was loaded with the loot. I didn't get to see him but two times, my guy. But he said that if I texted him, he answered. If I called him, he answered. If he could, if he wasn't busy. Can you at least give me that much respect, my dude? Bro. If you show love to me, I'ma show a little back, bro. Already, man. He loyal. He loyal. He loyal. Man, I'm gonna always be checking for you. If you make it, if you don't make it, you made it with me. I can promise you. Ain't no don't make it and he gonna make it. You know what I say? If you make it or you don't make it. Oh, you think you don't make it cause making it in your mind is what making it is. That's what it can do. That's it, right? That was a bar, nigga. Making it in your mind is what making it is. If you can't make it in your mind, you don't care what you make, you ain't make it. So therefore, you have to be able to control your thinking in order to understand where you have evolved to. If you don't know how to scale in your mind, you'll never scale in your finances, right? So, who would you like to work with? If you had your choice. Like anybody. Anybody. I say, future for sure. Future, you like future. The future was less than future putting on that. He don't be doing like he used to when he first came out. Future and him got that money. Yeah, they got that money now. So they, they different. They changed the money. Sean Cotton once again. You never know nobody until they get money. Maybe like he just, how did he? Oh, you retired? Is that what you're trying to say? Then he just announced I helped. Yeah, he got, I ain't saying he don't have music. It's just that, you know, when the person first doing it, boom, boom. Everything back to back coming out. But in future, it very can't be. And you couldn't miss him every time you. Yeah, it was a mess of some comments. I ain't gonna, what was that? I got some comments. My favorite song from future. I think that was it. My favorite song from future is Marshmannies. What about that one when he sang? Why? Marshmannies, bro, do you hear the beat, bro? But when that nigga said. So when you listen to music, you just listen to the beat. You don't even listen to anything else. I listen to all the music. That beat that nigga listen to that beat for it, didn't they? It didn't crazy how the beat was made. It was just a bunch of arps put together and then some drums. Yeah. He have a lot of music though. He didn't think about futures that he's an instrument with the beat. Yeah. Yeah. That's why he's so easy to listen to. Wow. Yep. Dope, dope analogy. So man, first of all, thank you for coming on Boss Talk again, man. You came back, man. You came back, showed love to the channel, man. Help the show. And listen, man, like I say, we locked in whatever you need. If you in college or wherever, no matter what, I'm here, if I'm living, I'm here, bro. So you can always hit me up. My number ain't changed since you got it last time. Yeah, 20 years, nigga. I had my number before you was born. Yo. So I got that same number, man. So you gotta keep that same energy if you need me. You know what I mean? Not for real. Thank you for coming on Boss Talk. Let these young niggas know that they gotta tap in at Boss Talk 101. They gotta like, they gotta subscribe. They gotta link with a ziggie made it because at the end of the day, that's what keeps us pushing in pressure. How you like what the show is going? I love it. I've been seeing what y'all doing. Y'all been making some big moves, bro. I've been seeing. Really? You like what's going down? For real. Man, thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you, bro. Because you see where we was, you know. We always had a lot of cameras, though, dude. Yeah, I think so. We always started off with a lot of cameras, man. We bought some new ones, though, since you been gone. I still got the other ones, too. I'm just talking about twin angles, nigga. I don't know, I'm losing my mind. My mind playing tricks, always. Say. But thank you so much for coming on the show. Hey, we got much love for you. Okay, is there anything we left out? Did we cover everything? Like a real man should. You know what I'm saying? We covered it all, right? Check it, man. Hey, man, we love you. Been another great segment, man. Boss Talk 101, what a boss this talk. Not for real.