 We're here with Sonya Monsour Hello. Hi Sonya. Thanks for coming on the program. Thank you for inviting me. I'm really excited for this. Yeah We're still at Bintanio Massaro's shift into permanent alignment Retreat in Costa Rica Been getting the opportunity to meet epic people. I'm really excited for you guys to Hear about Sonya's journey and what she's currently doing to catalyze awakening and alignment All right, Sonya, let's start with your spiritual journey. How did you pick up spirituality? Let's talk about that. Okay So spirituality has always been a part of my life my context Aloha Riley who we're gonna have on the show soon is currently back and yeah, what's up? Boom, I love it. Yeah, Jordan popped in also to Corey show. So it's so fun. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. I love it Um, all right. So yeah, so the spiritual journey. Let's do it. Okay. Yeah, so spirituality has always been part of my container Um, I was born into a Muslim family and then went to a Catholic school after that that taught Advaita Vedanta meditation and other techniques Yeah, and then as I grew older I started Dating a young man that was a Jehovah's Witness And so I've always felt held by different communities and always Had an inclination towards the spiritual paradigms that were here existing But also like an unwillingness or a resistance towards Committing myself or my identity to to any of them. So I've stayed pretty open and pretty playful with all of it Um, when I was 14 though, I did go through a moment where I was like, I don't know I don't know about any of this actually um, but Then all this happened pre-14. No, okay. Yeah, so the timeline's a little off But I was by by the time I was 14. I was at the school It's called st. James independent school in london and it was epic because it had space for so many different faiths and so many different Paralimes and ways of believing or having faith. Yeah um, and Yeah, yeah, yeah a lot of a lot of I think it was triggering for a lot of the girls and boys at the school But I don't know for some reason it felt great for me And that's where obviously the the concept of oneness was introduced there. Boom. Yeah. It's really young. That's great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, um, and that felt Holifying in in in its own little way, you know, just being having a teacher speak to you about the fact that everything is one Even though I wasn't necessarily I couldn't conceive that As I was still a person in the material world. Um But yeah, still felt it very strongly Felt the resonance with it But then had this moment whilst I was still at the school. Um When I was 14 where I disbelieved I just went through a phase of just being like, I don't know. I don't I don't believe in any of this I'm not seeing the hard proof, you know I'm not really experientially Feeling any of it. And so then what happened was I was on an escalator um with a friend of mine and I what feels like I received a download and I just turned to her and I I I said to her Have you heard about the collective conscious? Collective consciousness And she looked at me as if something strange was going on and but for me it came through with conviction You know, it came through with conviction and it was beautiful that was happening on an escalator Which I mean now I've reflected upon as a beautiful Metaphor. Yeah. Um, yeah. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was really cool Yeah, happy on an escalator. It's so cool. Yeah, but then I I kind of I didn't integrate that it happened and it was beautiful and I felt extremely vast in this moment of escalation and and then yeah, and then Went back into my normal school day life and um and then met this young man and was Shown the Jehovah's Witness community and they get a lot of um bad press but my experience in that um was It was beautiful. I I felt a lot of love. I felt The understanding for why the community is so tightly knit. I saw a lot of support And so there was a lot of beauty in Faith Not to say that there isn't necessarily a shadow side. I don't know But still I didn't find myself Committed to that although I found it As you use the word nectarous You know, yeah yesterday But so I found it nectarous something about it was nectarous But then that relationship ended and I continued I went to Berlin and then just started partying and then I guess I found God in drugs So this is around 18 Now I know so in I would I moved to Berlin when I was in my very early 20s But for university I studied product design and at that point I was just Materialistic worldview. Did you say pottery product design? Oh product design. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Yeah also interesting because Yeah, yeah It's really good to have a tech and entrepreneurial Addition to one's worldview along with spirituality. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah And so then I found myself in Berlin and was just really into losing myself and Took all the party drugs and all the psychedelics and whatever was necessary for for that moment and Did feel expansion through that and did have epic realizations through that and I'm extremely grateful for that process And for being taught by these substances and not just the substances But also the people on the substances, you know, that was that that was an epic resonance totally and Heart opening but still after that I started to start I started to feel a lot of anxiety Which was unexpected. I thought okay. My identity is now here. I plant my identity firmly in the in the party scene night life um and What I wanted was to just continue with that but when I was in the line for clubs, I would feel anxiety And I started to perceive a little bit more of what was going on But I was so uncomfortable with it. So I was trying to contract myself more Um and stay in what I knew as my paradigm um, and so I'd go into the club and just take whatever and Try and relief some of whatever was actually happening Um until I got to the point where I just couldn't even stand in the line because whatever was happening was More than a party drug could fill or could cure or could Help me resist And then the dark night happened And it felt like it a calm down from all of the partying that I'd done before But in this dark night I felt a lot of the expectations I felt a lot of the falsehoods that I'd been carrying. I felt a lot of Um what I thought I was and what I was expected to be I felt the weight of that and I could also Acknowledge that that that was no longer resonating, but I didn't see a way out Um, and so it became really really dark And in that darkness There was a portal into mysticism Oh, I love this. Yeah, yeah, which I was also not prepared for Um, I didn't I didn't at that point have a paradigm to hold that experience But I was experiencing entities and But of of the same vibration that I was in And that were feeding off of fear and so I was in a lot of resistance And I was in a lot of fear in my waking state. I could sense them You know not see them, but I could sense them or at least I was creating them I can't be certain of what was happening, but it was mystical as Of course it was mystical as fuck. It was mystical as fuck. And um, yeah, but then I was afraid um And At some point in that depression or in that darkness briefly It's important to also mention that once we gain enough awareness As the creator we recognize that we actually created That scenario the whole paradigm for awakening for ourselves. Yeah And at that time sometimes it's really hard for us to Because we're not yet at the stage of recognizing ourselves as the creator. We think it's an External it's another if there's a set there's a separation. It's something else That is doing it, but it's actually me Doing it me the creator doing it to Myself in this expression So that I can awaken to my true nature pierce the veilless veil find Myself through the hiding I provided myself with this catalyst. I love that. What a beautiful way to say it Perfect. Yes. Um, we provide ourselves with the catalyst Yeah, boom I found myself in this in this mystical space and I would walk into bars or wherever and I felt like I could affect a room but but I Could couldn't affect it positively at that point. I wasn't I couldn't feel my own light I felt so heavy and so low vibe that when I walked in I felt like I had that kind of an influence And I was seeing it happen, you know, I was Feeling and seeing the room dark and as I was in in the space and then I was like, okay I can't take myself into spaces Because I'm having this kind of an impact. So I've got to isolate and then in the isolation what happened was What I then experienced is the most terrifying thing. Um, I developed a psychosis or I would say that it felt like schizophrenia what I would say is schizophrenia I don't know for sure, but I could hear entities now not just sense them. I could hear them In my waking state And when I would go to sleep, I started experiencing sleep paralysis Which is an equally terrifying state. Have you have you explored sleep sleep? Yeah. Yeah for sure terrifying Yeah, for sure terrifying, especially having no context, you know, and um the beautiful thing about this is is that Earlier that year one of my closest friends um developed paranoid schizophrenia Or went in deep into psychosis and he was put away for it and I felt a lot of guilt for that and I felt a lot of Loss in that and a lot of grief and On some level created a mini version of what he had gone through for myself What now looking back on it arrival style, you know It feels like Yeah, that I needed his experience And then I created the experience that I required in order to be able to connect to that kind of a catalyst Perfect. Yeah, and it's a very specific kind of catalyst because it has to do with the world of in the materialistic paradigm With the world of mental health, you know And so that is the context for it out there. Yes, but in here it's actually a spiritual emergence And it looks like a spiritual emergency. Great way to put it out. Yeah. Well, that's what it felt like. It's interesting because in the east It's very much excited. Yeah, it's like applauded. It's like expansion. Yeah to what the west could sometimes call mentally unstable and then put people into Pharmaceuticals or into psychiatric wards. Yes. Yeah, it's a huge civilizational Tweak that we must undistort Yeah, absolutely. Because what was happening was I was becoming more perceptive I had increased awareness And I did not know how to translate my experiences I did not know how to hold everything that I was now perceiving and all I wanted to do was to Contract my awareness again because that felt safer And so I was trying to suppress my expansion out of fear And so I was also translating all the things that I was perceiving out of fear So I was in a fear-based state creating fearful projections translating them fearfully and perpetuating this state But on the other side of it on day three of it I popped into a greater sense of awareness And understanding and safety and relaxation and calmness But that's not to say that I couldn't experience the contraction still and the fear still Something happened and I was out here, you know, but I could still feel this Yeah, I could still feel this but It felt Yeah, it felt not me. You became more witnessing or observary to the frames that were moving along the movie Yeah, that's that's such a beautiful pop. It was It was epic And it that is what completely one-aided my trajectory Completely one-aided in a very slow way because again, I didn't have containers So I started to try and build myself a way to understand this and That is when the Love-based translation started to filter through because I also recognized as this pop happened. I was like, oh Shit, you are not that, you know, like I you know yourself and you know yourself as love You've always known yourself as love. You've always known yourself as connected and interconnected There's always been this understanding my whole entire childhood and life before was set up so that I would always be In the stream of knowing that you know and feeling that and so that is that was my gift You know that that's the gift I gave myself in terms of this incarnation was that I got to experience the madness But then I got to fall back into a container also of of oneness and A lot of people don't get to have that You don't have that container to fall back into, you know, and so then they do go the conventional route in the current paradigm You know, which is to seek help and to get medicated and to To suppress like what I was trying to do with family guy or with smoking weed or with whatever whatever And the weed actually was like expanding me more. It wasn't the it wasn't the right thing. But anyway, it was the perfect thing And then I realized okay, you have expectations your experience experiencing yourself as contracted you're not feeling Excited you're not feeling passionate. You're not feeling Aligned at that word. I didn't have the word aligned at a time. I didn't have the word aligned and So I decided okay drop everything and reprogram yourself. You've you've created a lot of fear-based thinking what happens What will happen if you do something different and at that moment? I didn't know what I would do different But I just want I knew I wanted to break some patterns because I I felt Unliberated I felt contracted in myself and in my life that I had created So I had created a trap for myself that I had to like an escape room I created an escape room for myself to break out Perfect way to put it. Yeah, each one of us Creates our own little escape room as the creator and then we Undergo a process of piercing that veil is veil and finding our true nature And that's what's meant by the Sufi metaphysic What that are we'll do the unity of all finding because everybody has their own unique style of finding So you sum all of these little Individuated styles of finding as the one creator and it's like What a Most profound aphorism that that is and so yeah, you describe your own little escape room Which is different than their escape room and mine and many other people's and that's what's beautiful Is that you're going to have your own little contraptions in your escape room that are then going to provide you with massive wisdoms In service to other people because you've gone through them. Yeah, absolutely. And that that was a great learning in fear or of fear and of contraction and It also provided me with compassion that I didn't have before for Those kinds of experiences, you know, these kinds of mystical experiences that are taking place that are very much dismissed and labeled as just You're going nuts, you know, even though it does feel like you're going nuts or I was going nuts. Um Because you're communing with infinity and nothingness and God all at the same time and it's indescribable and so much of the time we take our experience to people that we shouldn't be taking our experience to because then they Hit the gold out of our hands. Yeah, they're not trained to be able to hold you in that They're not trained for that and it's not their fault. It's just that they they haven't had that paradigm installed within them that can that can catch you as you are going through all of this Messiness in the washing machine of expansion You know and and it can be really disconcerting to not have a community to fall back on or a world Beautiful back on or just a paradigm to fall back on And so that is what I experienced. Um, even though I did have that pop and I did have Something to catch me, but I also was able to identify that as unique You know in my experience And so after that I went into music and was and I experienced what it meant to not have expectations And so I got to experience being in flow because living a life full of expectations Does not allow you to move in flow. It doesn't allow you to to To surrender into anything because it's based around trying to control outcomes It's based around very contracting states of being in of consciousness. And so Yeah, so the music Popped me out more. There were lessons in ego there and but still Had another pop out. Um, and when the band Came to a close I Was like, okay, let's go online. What is this one online one online? Look look look look and I found creative consciousness um Which is a form of coaching created by a man called mark steinberg a german man. Um And It is a form of coaching that does have a spiritual backdrop Container and it is very very open because it does come from a more non-dual place And so it it includes anyone's belief system. It doesn't make wrong anybody, you know um And that was the resonance that I found with that form of coaching And I didn't know what it was and I just applied. You were also prepared for it with your St. James St. James. Yeah independent school. Yeah, the school. It was it was amazing to have that Yeah, because you were prepared into a lot of the oneness and non-duality Even when you were younger, although you may not have known you were doing that right that kind of thing It's always beautiful connecting those. Yeah Yeah, and so I was at the I booked. I just booked the creative consciousness. Um coaching session the first bit of it and did the first bit of training and was just hooked because What is so sick about it is that it is experiential It is not like you're not sitting there in in a class and what they're doing Is they're telling you a whole bunch of stuff that you've got the right notes And then you've got to hold that and that's it, you know Mark has designed this program that you go there and you experience stuff You have to experience and so the whole entire program is based around putting you in Challenging situations the whole point of the program is escape room like an escape room But the container is love and there is there are people trained to hold you there just like this just like this but more Accelerated more experiential experiential too. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's so cool And so so give us an example of some of the activities the most triggering one was on was on day one and So what mark made us do it was another trainer, but it's his design It's uh, we were we were told to get in touch with anger. That's that was the whole intention of this exercise was to know anger because Mark teaches that it is it is one of those energies that has been made wrong so much You know and that we don't know how to express it. We've been told that it is dangerous. We've been told that it is Violent, we've been told that it is whatever whatever, you know any kind of label around anger in general is a negative one And so that makes the whole entire energy which is neither negative nor positive wrong um Which then leads leads us to start installing suppressed mechanisms within our being You know, and so we don't get to learn about that energy We don't get to know ourselves with that energy on that energy functioning with that power source And so the exercise I hope I'm allowed to share it and I will but it's The exercise was you could also glaze over it abstractly also just in case if that's better Okay, cool. Just whatever you feel is best the exercise was He created a situation a context between two beings Where one person holds space Or provides the context or the reason for why the other person has to start embodying anger Yeah, and so you're asking to embody anger And it's pretty tricky. It is. It's really tricky. It is and it was on day one in a room full of strangers. You don't oh, yeah Yeah, and so immediately You're also being asked to let go of your self image. You're being asked to like To get angry and to know yourself as angry when you've never pushed anger, you know, you may have been triggered and had a rage outburst or whatever but To keep going and keep going and keep going. That's the point of the exercise. It's to keep going You know and keep going and keep going until someone Stops you or until your your suppression mechanism comes in and then you get to know your suppression mechanism So you see it. Yeah You see what happens when you read a certain threshold of anger and how how do you then suppress it or allow it Or use it. Does it become destructive? Does it become and then his that is all based on knowing yourself You have to be able to know it. Okay, because if you don't know it It's part of your shadow and it will just come out when you're triggered You will be in a rage situation and then you'll suppress it and then deny it ever happened This is probably a good place to hit a tennis ball back because I'm familiar with this type of exercise It has also been taught by some of the other people that have come on to our show I do see interesting benefits in exploring A breath of emotional States that also give you insight into the suppression mechanisms I find that really insightful yet, I also am interested in the amount of people that create Scenarios like this In terms of their knowledge of The teachings of buddha or patanjali Because what happens is when you undergo those mystic teachings You basically watch anger arise And then you see that you are not that And then it disappears like a cloud or like a wave on the ocean, right And what it does is over time it basically Extinguishes the Roots of misery and suffering And so in a sense Anger itself no longer arises Because you've done the work How do you feel about that? Yeah, I mean beautifully put and said, um Well the paths are many totally and The end is one. Yeah, and the end is one and for many people We're here incarnated to know the human experience and to Have a visual experience of it and then And then often I feel like the people are more likely to take a non-dual path But it's very rare for someone to just straight out of like school like bentinio did, you know, like it's rare He's a he's a rare one. You're a rare one to just go for the non-dual You know, um But first first to unblock the being And then start making choices first to know yourself see oh shit. I've got a trigger there. I'm blocked here This is where I'm contracted. This is the expectation. This is my mom's all my mom's wishes This is how I'm supposed to I was been trained to be in service You know like you realize how what kind of what does the cage look like that you're in You see the walls and some of them are energetic and some of them are physical and some of them are just concepts You know And so that that is the work that so you would say creative consciousness helps you see the scripts the algorithms the cage Of the person consciousness the body Consciousness and it sort of helps liberate you from those scripts and cages Show you the bigger picture of the escape room. Yeah, and makes you take responsibility for it And that's that's the that's the other powerful thing about it Yeah, is that mark mark's teacher was also jid the krishna murthy beautiful. So we studied the krishna murthy in and uh And so there is a lot of The backdrop that is based in liberating yourself And being your own teacher You know and so that is the that is why I feel that the coaching that mark has created is so powerful Is because even when you sit with the client um There is a context that you have to set for yourself As a coach And the first one of the first context is that your client is already whole Yeah, like perfection perfecting Yeah Yeah, and So there's that context and then there's there's the other context um Which is that you are being coached by your client You know and then there's a third context which is that Well, you've got to check whether or not you have an agenda Because you cannot be a coach if you have an agenda Yeah, that's to purify where you're coming from. Yes, precisely. Yeah, precisely And so there's a protocol that you've got to go through to check yourself before you sit with any client um Yeah, and and when you when you sit with that protocol, you're just like, oh, this is totally based in non-duality This protocol it's totally trying to purify where I'm coming from. Perfect, you know Yeah, and so I trained in that and Um, but then okay, and then started working. Um slowly Worked on myself worked in the field worked on myself worked in the field and Purified where I was coming from understood things about self-worth and value and a lot of different things were started to shift as I went down that path um But then I realized the type of client that I was attracting Which was really interesting and that Happened for me in order for me to be able to see what is happening in the materialistic paradigm Which is exactly what we spoke about earlier in this conversation You know that people are going through awakenings without having a container All right, excellent. So there was a little bit of a Streaming wi-fi issue, but we are back It was actually at a perfect moment with the transition. Yeah, okay Fair to say we should probably visualize this also for people so If you watch some of the content on our channel We've done a dissemination of the law of one the seven densities and bentino has as well So highly recommend checking those out and what you'll see in them is you'll see that the In the one infinite creator expressing itself via this creation to explore itself and play That where we're currently at is around this third density of evolution where it's very humans In a civilization where you can create a gradient In terms of more egoic levels of consciousness to more enlightened levels of consciousness and egoic levels of consciousness typically You already know how they behave but you can think about it like a dirtier mirror And that when you go from third to what is called fourth density fourth density is about being in service to others Rather than being in service to yourself And so you really get this love that's just channeling through to express itself to be in service to other people so what Sonia is talking about and what Bentino was talking about yesterday with igniting this global awakening in a very decentralized way Is that we specifically have to become shepherds For the third to fourth density And so let's have Sonia explain to us sort of The container the maximal optimization for the awakening of people from Third to fourth density because there are so many different escape rooms. Yeah, right and styles Looks like we're back again. Okay Thanks for letting us know in the comments. We love you all very much. Thanks for being here. Super appreciate you so We've had several people come on to the show and talk about sort of the optimization of that third to fourth container One of the keys that we found is that the One-on-one mentorship is mission critical So it's like pairing escape room similarities With each other Like someone that's already at fourth density that's went through a similar escape room as someone that's shifting from third to fourth Is a great mentor and so it's linking people up like that. So how do you feel about that and other? strategies to optimize the container for third to fourth Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, sorry, but I was like real close Yeah, um, I agree with that And I think that That we can lean into resonance also the law of resonance and the reason I say that is because again I've attracted a very particular kind of client and the client that I attract is going through has been going through um What would look like a mental health crisis? And that can be anything from Suicide dull ideation or attempts all the way through to Psychosis, you know or or bipolar or severe depression or Whatever it may be Um Yeah Yeah, but also a very very teaching part of the collective. Um Yeah, and they're exploring something, you know, they're exploring um darkness and being in that place is not a negative polarization, but it is a You ever heard the aphorism the brighter the flame the deeper the shadow I haven't that's a good one, huh? Yeah Yeah, you Jung obviously says that the roots have to reach hell for the flowers to branches to reach heaven So there there are many different ways to say this one But I do like the brighter the flame the deeper the shadow So people unknowingly are in this like son, you listen to this buffet of darkness options And that those greatest traumas serve as these greatest treasures. Yeah, yeah Yes, yes, and um again not to disclose much information, but I had a client recently Attempt to take her life and She has been able to distill such wisdom from that Perhaps we should have there should be a trigger warning on this. I don't know But that that is that it's pretty profound though. Yeah I was also suicidal. I think did you say that you have had You didn't throw out your life. Many people here have had Dark nights though. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and But what she distilled from that was the understanding of liberation You know and before that the the paradigm wasn't there. She hadn't installed it within herself, you know Right at that point in time. It was just a lot of talk But she was missing the experience and so that was her capitalist what she created for herself and That also taught me to be unattached In order to be of service I cannot be of service if I'm attached to anyone's outcome Because then I'm coming from somewhere impure within me You know and but that was the most depthful Um Client experience that I'd had but one that has been my just The most gift-giving um because of the depth um of darkness And so that is who I attract but in this in this learning um of my experience is That we don't have a worldview to catch a lot of people that are waking up that there is in Widely accepted and understood Perspective on what we're calling mental health issues And that's not to say that that the mental health field is wrong, you know But it's just that there is more that there are more paradigms to Infuse into it, you know And absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, like all of non-duality Yeah, I'm like all of exactly exactly And so this is all I feel centerless and it's like oh my gosh rush into the hospital. No, it's like hey Wait a second. Whoa, you might be awakening. Yeah Yeah, the might person consciousness might be dissolving You might be awakening. We have a great container setup for you to explore that. Yeah. Yeah, that's like the future It's I think we're approaching dsm6 Is the next one. What is dsm6? The diagnostic statistic manual for psychological psychiatric evolution evaluation Yeah, it's like the sixth iteration. I think it's published every seven years or something and so it has basically all of the different like psychologists around the planet and even neuroscientists and I think physicians and psychiatrists end up Creating this sort of set very kind of centralized codified but also decentralized Heterarchy, but also hierarchy approach to understanding mental health and illness And it's just interesting to think about how many of them have ever experienced anything outside of their own finite Body consciousness. Yeah, because if they've never even Went beyond that and then they're making this that's part of the reason. So, yeah, basically incorporate a lot of the non-dual awakening and alignment to the modern sort of cutting-edge psychiatric evaluation exactly Exactly because at the moment, um, it what what it feels like to me is that a lot of um Of very key players are are locked up at the moment, you know and Are unaware that what they're going through is a very profound shift um, that is of planetary relevance, you know, um And collective relevance And it is just really unfortunate that there isn't This understanding within the within the mental health community and if there is it's just not expressed for whatever reason And furthermore the the spaces that these um, these individuals are taken to are not places of healing, you know So they don't promote the the understanding or the deepening of their own Alignment and expansion, but in fact support a deeper deepening in contracted states So let's say that if we were to play and Identify the core Ways to assist in the third to fourth density container building for people's awakenings One of the components which we've both agreed on so far is the style of one-on-one mentorship with people with similar escape rooms Okay What would be other containers or processes that you found? Or that we can find together? Well other containers What comes up when you when you when you ask that is to create spaces that provide healing actually For for those that have that have undergone psychological Trauma is what it will be experienced As by that individuated person consciousness and What that looks like is manifold. I think that there isn't just one way because there are infinite again infinite expressions of awakening So we've also got to approach this in a more kind of infinite Yeah manner You know and so what would your ideal space look like for someone with that's experiencing person consciousness and psychological trauma That's undergoing awakening expansion as well as suffering What would be a way Would there be something Digital that I would potentially sign up for that would then send me some more physical where there That's that's a cool concept. I didn't think of that. I know I don't really go into the the technological stuff You did product design though. I did do product design, but I was like designing making you know Second density first density objects, right? But okay, so you um, that is a great that is a great idea We yeah Yes, yeah, just playing coming up with this stuff and then now Implementing it. Yeah guys also posting the comments. What do you think like well? What kind of a healing space for those that have undergone this kind of like psychological crisis or spiritual crisis Spiritual emergency they are awakening. There isn't a container for them How can we support other individuals that are in that kind of a state in that kind of a Context an internal context where they they don't know how to hold themselves as they're expanding They haven't found the right book or the right teacher or the right whatever the right, you know Context or a container so For me to approach it in a very infinite way the cool one thing that is cool a cool metaphor is the Professor x's school, right? You know an x-man where he's just like Each individual is is whatever it is that they they're going through whatever it is their their superpower That is the thing that is acknowledged and yeah, and so to have something that is Broad and it's catching but supported In a way where you're able to see what the the individual is going through personally so that does require quite a lot of people Yeah, um, cool a lot of um individuals that have gone through the experience themselves So that they're coming from something more ontological rather than mental. Yes, um another person like if It's important. You can only teach what you've got you can only teach where you're at um Yeah, and so and your client will can only get what you get, you know, they will on some level sense whether or not You're coming from a whole place or an understood developed I'll check. I'll check what's going on at the door So, yeah, I mean, I don't know whether or not any any of you have experienced any kind of a crisis whilst you awakened or Experience not having that kind of a safety net to catch you as you went through something that was expansive Or any experience that felt felt overwhelming Um, and in that in that scenario, what what did you do? What did you what did you How did you help yourself up and what was your catalyst? You know because a lot of the times the catalyst is not going to be something that is comfortable It's going to be something uncomfortable um Very few are extremely lucky to have to have that kind of a very easy and joyous and light trajectory um Into their expansion Thank you. Yeah Yeah, so what have you guys been talking about? No, nothing really I'm loving the way you're just addressing the audience. We love you guys. Thank you Yeah, do let us know in the comments about like how to optimally architect this and where you're at also in the process So maybe if you write a comment one of us will come and comment back with Yes, and thoughts or even what your friends have gone through because there's there are there are Do you have a youtube channel? No That's a sign. That's a sign, right? She totally needs it. She totally needs a youtube channel if her if she decides it You know she wants one. Thank you, but you you would rock. Yeah. Thank you Yeah, especially in the in the day of More and more Desire civilizationally for spiritual clarity We need more people like at this retreat to actually have their own channels And be posting on those channels and yeah It's it's actually like mission critical component But some people here are like they don't necessarily want to get on the internet sphere Which is their own unique expression, but other people sometimes Don't necessarily know that they would be a fucking rock star at it And they haven't necessarily you played around with it. So yeah But do you have a do you have an instagram or where should people I have an instagram? I've just started making videos for that Um And so you can check that out. It's sannyasasaira on instagram We'll put the link to her instagram in the bio for you guys to go follow her there Is that the best place for people to follow you for now? Yes Okay, cool. We'll put that link in the bio the what we talked about what the densities was called the law of one Go look it up law of one and Yeah, and so how what kind of a what kind of what was the question what kind of container what kind of a Yeah, what do we optimize? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, basically and one of the components was the one on one And then we also identified that if people do Our undergoing said process they can potentially identify this digitally And then be sent Somewhere physically. Yeah, and then physically there could be experts like what you described That have already went through the process like we were kind of talking about also in those one-on-one scenarios People had to have went through somewhat similar escape room dynamics And then you know matching people up in the physical setting those sound very similar Both like digital one-on-one mentorship and also physical one-on-one mentorship The space the space also has to be something that is going to inspire Um and teach and so a lot of the natural world is often that you know, that it's very metaphorical Um to be in a space like that rather than a white cell, you know, and so I would suggest that it would be somewhere beautiful absolutely beautiful um as well as Yeah for for this kind of this kind of a space to be conscious in that People are supporting other people to become the creator in and not create a dependency on that kind of a space You know Because you want it to just be a halfway house and and or like a trampoline where someone can not then create an identity And fix themselves and say okay. Well, I need this space forever I'm gonna make a little home here but to in order to catalyze or to To really support the awakening process for it to be A very nourishing and information rich place But but what you simply want is to reflect back paradigms that are not serving the person's awakening and to offer um an array of of information or paradigms that do Support and it doesn't have to just be one kind of teaching because again, we're infinite expressions It can be that one one individual will really resonate with with suphism We'll want we'll want to go the sufi way, you know, and that will be their natural expression Totally and they may not have access to that kind of teaching or a teacher Some people learn really well from books. Some people learn really well from other beings Um one on one and need that kind of a contact need to meet their master Like okay. Wow that sounded But you know what I mean like to actually have a realized being in front of them and that that Awaken something in them, you know buffets on both sides. There's the buffet on the side of the suffering of how people wind themselves up in those escape rooms And then as they release Themselves the way they do so is by having the buffet of options on the other side of the awakening side Where there are all these different ways paths aphorisms books retreats yogis mystics that help with the awakening and Many paths one end Yet at the same time there is a power law as in there are pointings that are more Efficient and more optimal. They've gotten more people there faster And so we got to take that into account at the same time. Yeah, and that also I mean when you've got people going from third to fourth um a lot of the I think often if you've got a being that is coming from Sixth or seven That they will already have learned a kind of love style or no a more kind of purified way of loving that is detached And going from third to fourth In order to you may not have the ability to perceive love in the one that has that has already learned How to how to purify themselves and loves from a pure place Because what you'll want if you will be coming from scarcity and lack and fear and all that and so in order to be raised up and excited by your awakening you may need a bit more of a fourth fifth density kind of love loving Energy in order to yeah to support that step You know and then to be able to understand that there is love Present in seventh even though it may not be what we have been programmed to perceive love to be Yes, you know and just to answer your question again It's the law of one And we'll we'll put the link in the bio below to that as well for you to check out and we've done If you want to just go look on our channel for the seven densities law of one video You can go and see the map that we're talking about right now Yes, and probably a good way you're welcome Probably a good way to wrap would be Twofold the first thing is that the first thing is that wherever you're at right now Especially if you're in the transition from third to fourth density If you're beginning to feel like you want to get beyond suffering and that you want to feel This god this love love being god really if you want to feel love radiating from you like the sun that one of the easiest ways to do that is to become aware of the fact that you are aware and practice in a sense Doing things like taking an object And rather than seeing the object itself Become aware of the line of perception Okay, so become aware of the line of perception And that even that might take you a little bit of time to become aware of the line of perception rather than the object itself And once you get really good at seeing the line of perception rather than the object then become aware of Seeing itself become aware of being a witness or an observer or awareness itself So not perception but become aware of awareness or witnessing or observing And if you do those repetitions enough you will then become more of a Awakened but you will also become more of a watcher or a witness to the clouds that arise and pass So if something does occur like the story that might happen that deals with your trauma or your suffering etc That you will have a meta Level of perspective where you will no longer get absorbed into the thought cloud That arises but you will see that it arose and you will say that this is just like what I was practicing with the water bottle so I'm just going to do the same thing where I focus on being an observer rather than being Attached to the water bottle as an object or as that traumatic Story that is then appearing and then disappearing and as you get really good at that This is what buddha patanjali etc and many of the mystic traditions taught is that those clouds stop appearing And so the asra amunamaharshi says the I thought Disappears And that's when you're left with just the timeless being The very timeless formless essence That all of us share as the creator And so that would be probably most like just simple practicality for being able to Shoot yourself out of suffering by doing a very simple basic activity That has been taught for thousands of years And that we're now just trying to modernize and and and disseminate to to people to Help catalyze that global awakening and alignment So, okay, so that was the first thing and then the second thing is that As we wrap is what do you think is most beautiful? Are you asking me? Yes. Oh from what From which tier of consciousness shall I answer that? Um from You know The the thing that comes straight for me is is just people At the moment for me, I really um So appreciative of the reflections and of The mirroring and of the processes that we are going through as a collective the darkness that we experience the resilience The this pull it's the creator it is the creator but But just to be part of humanity right now Um is so rich and so Playful and divine and and magical, you know I have a friend that that has a that he that does gives talks and he always says that we're in the age of re-enchantment Yeah, you know, it's great. We put it. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a great way to put it and that is That is such a beautiful thing to be experiencing and in order to be re enchanted You've got to have experienced disenchantment You know and and we're we're going through that we're going from this disenchanted state into this enchanted more more Fucking magical Yes Place and yes on this perceived timeline where we become The creator we become what is permanent we become what is immovable behind and beyond What is movable what is transient? And that is it That is the one end absolute nothingness absolute infinity Both no self and all self simultaneously so Accelerate yourself to the one end take The steps that are needed We'll have some links in the bio below for you for the law of one material We were referencing and also sanya's instagram profile jingo follow her And That was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, that was beautiful. 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