 Big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit. Big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Who gon' burn it to the table? Boss top. Who your girlfriend favorite? Boss top. We gon' do it how you want it. It's nice done. Everybody on it, boss top. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica. My dad, my dad. What's going on? Nothing, nothing. Nothing? Nothing. You tired yet? No. Don't get tired, man. Don't get tired. We got a special guest in the house, man. Somebody who really, really been killing, tick-tocking everything, really. Let me just be real for a minute here. I done did my little research on the cat, man. Man, C.C.O.P. is in the building, man. What's up, baby? All right, what's good, man. Say, man, temple, man, what's up? Man, how did you, man, I only want to get into it first. We want to talk about something else first. Woo. But that, I mean, I just love the way your music is a vibe, bro. It's a whole vibe. And that's the difference. That's the game-changing game, the waymaker. So, tell me, how long you been rapping? Like, shit, I came from a music-oriented family. Like, my uncle was rapping, my papa was in the band or whatever. Shit, like cousin, they can sing or whatever, all that. But it's like, I always been around it. The first time I got in the studio, like, C is great. Really? Like, I did, like, a half a song, like, just be real. Like, just don't shit me and my cousin playing around. But I got the feel for it, man. And I did that, like, I am T-Pain. That was my partner in eighth grade. I just own it fucking around. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. School, like, trying to buy the iPod. And I'm like, man, I like that song y'all did. So that was just buying the iPod. So that's where the auto soon came from. I was on that shit and, hey, great. You know what I'm saying? You from Jacksonville, right? Yeah, I'm from Jacksonville. I was born there. I grew up there for a little bit and I moved to White House on school. That's why I played out my sport. Where's White House? White House? I played in the middle of the town, man. You know what I'm talking about? I'm not touching my home's front. Really? Really? I get upset about these Texas, man. My home from down there was one played for the Kansas City Chief. Yeah. I played for Bible. She don't, you know, she from Jamaica. Oh, okay. My wife from Jamaica. She don't know. She don't know, man. I'm East Texas hard here, baby. So I get it. You know what I'm saying? It's your fault. Yeah, I'm trying to educate you. You haven't introduced me to any of these places. I took you to all them places down in East Texas, man. You've been down there for 20 years now. You don't. But at the end of the day, you got to be born and bred. I get it. You can't. When we went to Kingston, I don't really, I can't tell you no streets over there now. You know what I'm saying? I'd be over there looking and trying to figure out what not to do. But check it, man. So you've been doing your shows. You've been ripping the waves. You get crazy, crazy people viewing you. Different type of people look like. Look like it might be more of a Caucasian select, to be honest to me. It looked like everybody coming for you. Yeah, they just came out of nowhere. You didn't even see that coming, did you? When I first, you know, it's more of us. You know what I'm saying? Even though they all was going to be there, they going to be there. It beats you over time. It's just like, that crowd just came out of nowhere. But your music, your music good though. It's really, it's different. I think that's the good thing. It's a good difference. It's most different. You know what I mean? I mean, how I look at it is like everybody on the same thing. You know, I feel like I'm in my own lane. You know what I'm saying? You might hear me call myself Boogie. You know what I'm saying? That's my nickname too. So I just say I just call it Boogie Avenue because it's my own street. So it's just like, I feel like, everybody talking about the same stuff. Everybody got, you know what I'm saying? Probably had it worse over here. Probably had it better over here. But everybody can relate. But it's like, everybody to the same shit. Saying it the same way. How about I just say what I got to say? And let me say it in a different way. But yours is, you know what I'm saying? Which makes sense. Most people fight to get crossed over, but look like yours is crossing over for the crossover. You know what I'm saying? And that's the part I see like, okay, this dude here, he got, your sound is great. But it's, you ain't, you know, B.O.B. Shout out to B.O.B. He was one that was able to cross over. You know, that's that other money. Like that money right there, that's a different kind of money anyway. That's a different, that's a whole different level. B.O.B. whole, I listen to B.O.B. But do you have to cross over and keep being cross over? So you have to, how does that work? I'm gonna keep it being with you. Like that's what I see when I hear all this other stuff. I think I'm like, that ain't where I first got it. Right, that's why I'm wondering. That's just me though, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, no vibes there. Like I got a whole bunch. I just look at it like. Because I'm wondering, are you gonna try to cater to them? Well, like I said, I'm making music for me. For you. I think it's more, like I said, when I say a Caucasian, I really think just cross over. To anybody. Anybody. It could be Asian, it could be, it's like, other people outside of people who look like us is lashing on to the sound. And which is popping. Like it's something we need. That's one thing when we got in the clothing business, I mean, I was selling Miss Me, Rock Revival, all those different type genes and stuff to cross cultures over and I did, you know? We had stores where you wouldn't even know who owned it by color ratio. But just, that's what it's all about. I think that's the biggest thing to help this whole country, to be honest, which is to be able to cross people over. And it helps. I'm being real. And you didn't think of it that way, but it's real. I know I'm right, because at the end of the day, that's what we need. But the crazy thing about society right now is the fact that everything here in the States is black and white, because even having the boutique, like what you were just saying, you have some people who come in and say, oh, is that black folks clothes or is that white folks clothes? I promise you, I've heard it. And just like with music, I'm sure some people say, oh, you listen to black folks music or are you listening to white folks music? Like, why does it have to be a late, why can it just be music? Because a culture of difference, you can tell the difference. You can tell the difference. But then to me, that's bullying too, because I like that type of music. You're gonna say, oh, you listen to it, so that makes that person feel some sort of way. Like, I shouldn't be listening to that because that's outside of my culture. But you shouldn't have to feel that way. That's what you like. So just listen to it. Yeah. Society, like you said. Society is something else, man. We're gonna ride with what we're gonna ride with, to be honest with you, you know? So I'm in the South, nigga. Way to go, B-Tix. And at the end of the day, you know, that's how we rock it. And we need to, because we didn't, years ago and to this day, a lot of people in other places don't really respect what we do in the South, so we gotta bring it. That's what the platform about. That's what the whole situation is about for me, is giving a face to our people, so that they'll be able to see how we bring it. And if you don't like it, nigga, turn the station. That's how I feel. That's how I feel right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we gotta be, because at the end of the day, you gotta respect what we are, who we are. We bread different, you know what I'm saying? We come from a place that these cats could not understand. You know, I drive down in the country, nigga. I gotta stop them, I pull out of the driveway and redo my rims and my tires, make sure they're right when I get out on the regular road. Y'all niggas know what I'm talking about. Because that country, Derek, that country, Derek. I said, really, Derek? I get out there and go to wipe it, nigga. Like, nigga, I'm gonna get these niggas anyway. Yeah, that's what we did, you know? And people don't, but that's the thing, but we don't have, our roads aren't really horrible compared to when we go to New York and you see them potholes and all them different places. Oh, I've been a lot, and she know it, and they can't ride, they bump it a bumble, they place where they stay, it's small, you can't go, your hotel just was in, becomes two times smaller than what you were just in. Big as rats. Rats as big as your arms and, you know what I'm saying? And you pay way more for that. You pay way more, way more for that. It's a way, but they take pride in it, dude. I talked to a guy one time and he was like, I said from Texas, nigga, you know, I'm hot stuff saying it hard, didn't he say? Yeah, but you gotta understand in New York, you look up that building up there, that little section, Jay-Z or somebody would own it for 40 million. I'm like, nigga, you take that 40 million to Texas, nigga, you gonna have you a whole bunch of land. That's the one thing. So what's up with you in this real estate? You got some stuff that the family got hold of, you know? It's what I understand, man, right there. Oh, yeah? Do I manage to do it all? So, you know, we gotta hold a lot of stuff. Oh, yeah? So that's why, I mean, you gotta be smart about this thing. Yeah, it's an opportunity. Yeah, and you paying yourself first yet? Most definitely. You gotta pay yourself first. But you know what else I'm gonna do? I really been on something. I'm treating it like I don't got it. It's like I taking it and hiding it from myself first. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't hear something from myself. I know where it's at. My granny might know where it's at for everybody. Yeah, yeah. Pay yourself first. Until I come up with another master plan. That's what it is. I like that. You sound like me. That's what I like to do. I promise you. You've been hiding my money for almost 20 years. Hey, you know what I'm saying? I don't know what you're talking about. No, no, no. You're gonna be like, what the hell kind of interview is this? Me? No, but real talk, man. So where's the music going next for the supporters out here? Like as far as platforms? Yeah, yeah. Like, where we going with it? You know, what we're... On all platforms all the time, like we're gonna go out DSPs, YouTube, SoundCloud it. So we're gonna always distribute out. But right now we just holding out just a little bit. Just holding out just a little bit just so we can get to that, you feel me? ATL, man. Do you be frequent in that yet? I don't mean, I've been in 2020. You need to keep going. I do need to keep going. That's the first place everybody else. The dude who made that tablet be. Yeah. They want me to come out there. I need you to be out there. Ain't no won't, you gotta go. Not for real though. You gotta go and y'all gotta go and y'all gotta hang out and y'all gotta come back and y'all gotta go and y'all gotta come back and y'all gotta hang out and you gotta come back up here. The next thing you know, you go back over there, come back over here. Yeah, nigga, it's work to be done. I like it though. No, no, no, it's the truth. And it's fun. Nigga, I seen y'all pull up in the big boy. Nigga, that's how I ride. So I know y'all rollin' nice. Hell, ain't no... Talking about it, man. You know what I'm sayin'? I know what you're talkin' about. I like having a good time. You know what I'm sayin'? That's life, bro. You know what I'm sayin'? You gotta do it. It's livin' life. And like I said, Mississippi down through there, you gotta frequent all those places so those people can see you. The chilling circuit, huh? Well, it's just the more people you can connect with, the more people get to see your talent, the more people you get to impress and bless. That's what you get a gift for. You don't get a gift to hold it and hide it. You get a gift to let everybody, you know, pretty much experience it. You see what I'm sayin'? So as you rip the way you see already the impact you gettin', you gotta roll. Yeah, I mean, even though... You gotta fly. Even though I don't like just been around a lot of people like this. You gotta do it. I had to let them touch me or whatever. You know, turn up with me or something like this. They stay there for these little pics. I had to understand, like... That's it. You gotta do it. This is what it is, so... Yeah, yeah. And the more you make a better impression on them at first, you'll have a supporter for life. Like, I see it on TikTok now. Like, we was goin' through there. It was like, he's so good with the fans. Like, he just... I'm just bein' home with me. This could be takin' away anytime. Anytime. And you know, that's the one thing I tell everybody. I love your attitude, man. I met a lot of them. And that's the one thing they had that it factor evolved around their attitude. I could promise you that. I done met a lot of them that was talented in this city right here. That can't get out of this city because of their attitude, the way that they approach the situation. Don't know how to communicate with people. Not knowin' how to connect and communicate will stop you from movin' forward. You see what I'm sayin'? And so, the people around you, being able to keep a good attitude is what I've seen. You have so many people. They're the group of people. I see groups. And, you know, we've been doin' a lot of people, man. I interview staff. I don't think nobody. I mean, I'm drippin' every day. Every day, next week. You know, you gon' see it. Just every day, I'm drippin' footage, interviews, givin' out awards, whatever. You know, we doin' everything to try to help to bless people while they're here, givin' people their roses while they're here. I'm gon' do our, the new artist of the year and all that. I got all that comin'. I'm watchin' everything. Ain't nobody else. They'll put a little post up. Don't get me wrong. I'm actually gonna give you somethin' to show your hard work when noticed. Not unnoticed. You know what I mean? We seen it. And we wanna appreciate it. That's what we're doin'. And my wife be mad at me cause I be spendin' that money on everybody. Man, it's love, though. You understand me? She be mad like, how many plaques you gon' get? You gon' get a... You be on me, though. I do. I just like showin' love, man. Cause I'm blessed. Like, okay, I'm blessed. The whole, whoever I feel like I can get one, that's what I'ma give. Cause I know I'm gonna give you roses while you're here. So many times we see people apply people after death and that worries me. It annoys me. Because I know they didn't, they didn't want, they wasn't doin' it when they was livin'. Fake love. So I don't like it. You know what I mean? So I do it, I keep it 100. You know, I try it to anyway. What you got? So you say you had a passion for music at an early age. Yeah, most definitely. And the first time you went in the studio was how old? I like 12. 11, 12. So did you write your own lyric at that time? Oh, gosh. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I don't never let that, I don't like nobody to touch my stuff. I guess I'ma always gonna ask that question. I am gonna always ask that question. Everybody that same damn question. They sit down here. Ain't nobody gonna be on real life. Okay, cause he says, no, let me tell it, let me tell it. Stop, stop. No, because he said that even if you didn't write your own lyrics, you're not gonna admit to the fact. That's what he says. Some of them ain't gonna admit it. But some will. Some will. Let me ask some, how many done admitted it to you? We gettin' more people. We gon' find one. I just don't see nobody comin' in and be like, yeah, you know, yeah, he wrote that for me, she wrote that for me. Cause everybody have their own talent. Somebody might have a talent just to deliver it and not to write it. I agree. I agree, I agree. Know your talent and stick with it. I'm not sayin' it's not happenin'. I'm just sayin' niggas is not admitin' to it. Ego, ego. Exactly, they not gonna do that. I mean, like, only way you found out that Drake allegedly didn't write his own is behind somebody else sayin' it. You know, expose it. You see what I'm sayin'? That's probably cause it's so pity. But he didn't really care because for the simple fact, you know, I think that everybody can be influenced in a certain way when they write music in a certain setting. Or if they think in a music in a certain setting, that person that's with you is an influence. Somebody may say, say this, or somebody might say, what about this? Or you might say, how does this sound? Man, somebody done did that in the studio. Yeah, like, everybody. Just say it like this. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's what Kanye said. Well, Jamie Foxx said Kanye, if it hadn't been for Kanye telling him, like, don't do that no more, do it like this. He say, he wouldn't have never got to, you know, let people really enjoy his music or experience his music because he was trying to do it the old way. And you gotta have a younger mind. Like, I listen to you in the studio. Hell, I'm not to do it. I have somebody else to do it. I be like, listen at him. Hell, yeah, he makin' hits. You not, nigga, listen. That's only usin' your damn mind, right? So what's the why that you continue to do what you do? Well, like I said, I play the sport. He takes, you know, about the sports and stuff. I like it. It's out at this point. Play football. Yeah, play football. He looked like a football player. Him and Smoothie. Smoothie played too. Like I said, I played with Pat. I was a sophomore. No varsity. Really? Yeah, he was a senior. So, you know, we goin' from him. We went in, we undefeated. I don't let no third round playoffs out there. So, you know, it's kinda hype comin' my junior year. We, he was side of his head my junior year. I'm talkin' about, bro. We got our asses whooped. Like, I don't know how, but we didn't make playoffs. Coach is lookin' at us, you know, what you gon' do next. I just felt like, it just went, I don't know. I got kicked out the team. I did, I got kicked out the team because I wasn't submissive to some other stuff. You know, I just, I always been standoffish. And that didn't like it, cause I had influence. Like, cause I always been like that before the music. I think that's structure, man. I like it. I like goin' through all that. I ain't like it. No, you, you don't like it, but it's shapin' and moldin' you at the whole time. Right. Hell no, you don't like it, but it's shapin' you. It's moldin' you for who you are now. So, it's the part that I don't like certain things I look back on that kinda hit me a certain way. But I know I needed them once I get past. Yeah, it be a character. That's it. I'm over the leave my senior year. Oh yeah? I bought over there. Y'all started out the muscles. Like, it was live, like it was live. I'm still havin' football. And like I said, the whole time during my little football stage, I don't watch them just livin' this little lifestyle with them at home when I get my little downtime after my little workouts or whatever. I might just go to YouTube and listen to some beats and I just write. Wow. You know what I'm sayin', but I never go to no studio. I'm just writein'. So, I always had this, this. My senior year, he ballin', havin' fun or whatever. I'm not thinkin' about no music. We didn't make playoffs again, but they fired my head coach so he couldn't recruit for us. You know what I'm sayin'? So, okay. So, John Tyler started tryin' to recruit for us. UIA shut that down like they're not your players. So it was always somethin' that's like, damn, we gettin' away at my football. You know what I'm sayin'? Somebody was gettin' away. You wanted it. Right. So, 2016 my partner was like, how you think you can do somethin' to this song? They're a G-easy for this one with Lil Wayne. I'm like, yeah. So we just did that. We just recordin' off our phone. Then we just started goin' to the studio. But like, 2018, just so many people just dyin' around me and stuff like that. And people that just really loved, they knew I had the music in me. Like my family. How a lot of shit was just goin' on. And I remember them just tellin' me like, nah, you need to really just do that. Then my partner Gwalla got locked up. He was a rapper. I wasn't just rappin' like that. He got locked up different folk. He just came home. I had him up there. You know what I'm sayin'? Lovin' for the show and stuff too. I just really just focused. I was like, man, you know what? 2018, I just really just really took myself serious. Like the end of 2018, early 2019. That's when it just started really just jumpin' off. Wow. That's hot, man. How did the pandemic affect you since you started in 2018 and 2019? And here comes 2020 with the pandemic. How did that slow you down? I went on. So it didn't slow me down. I just felt like I'm still grindin'. You know what I'm sayin'? I feel like I'm not even on yet still. You know what I'm sayin'? This is just like a little stepping stone, man. Because I heard a lot of people say that they had a lot of shows arranged for 2020 and they couldn't do any. Yeah, they shit that down. So that's the part where I'm thinkin', well, did you have show scheduled? I'm still grindin'. He's still grindin', he's still comin' out. And that's a good thing because God was just giving you time to really work on your craft. Yeah, perfect craft. Let me ask you this, hypothetically. Right. This is a new one. Okay. I wanna link you up with somebody. Yeah, and y'all gonna do a song together. But I wanna buy the song. But I wanna link it up with you and this other guy. Can we do somethin' like that? As long as I put the money up? You see what I'm sayin'? We gotta go talk to some folks, but yeah. But you see where I'm comin' from? Cause I can make somethin' happen cause I know certain things and I know how it's gonna hit and y'all ain't gonna be able to do it cause I'm the bridge. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm just tryin' to figure out how I'ma get in my eye, nigga. I ain't gonna keep lettin' you niggas win. You know it's too many millionaires that came through this damn stone. You feel like I know it's gonna hit. I know the people it's gonna hit. But at the end of the day, it's hard for you guys cause y'all got y'all certain groups y'all in. Y'all not gonna do it unless I link it up. You see what I'm sayin'? So that's the only way it happens. Most of the time people don't, but I know somebody who did that too. So I know it can be done. It's all about makin' sure the numbers right and everybody happy with what happens at the end of the day. You know what I mean? It's just somethin' that I'm just thinkin' about. Cause I meet a lot of people and I know a lot of people and everybody that I've been meetin', I be like, damn, I like this one. In my mind I be like, I could put this one with that one but I have a hell of a song cause they already got a lot of follow, all of them gettin' views, they just not doin' it together. And that's what happens, I'm tellin' ya. And then you already crossin' over and this guy here might not even be from your culture and he makin' good music and he connected to the right people. You see what I'm sayin'? And I know that. You know what I'm sayin'? So it's like, this could go crazy. Right. And you know, like it'll go dumb. Yeah, so you definitely gon' have to bring it back to know what I'm sayin'. Cause that's how you do it. It takes, and neither one of you or both of y'all got stuff goin' so it ain't like neither one of you guys hurtin'. I mean, you got people that, like me and Lil' Runny was talkin' the other day and he did a song with Old Boy Prince so both of them been on the show and they know already the other and there's one more guy on there too but they all know they was tryin' to make their TikTok and it's doin' good on TikTok right now, too. So that's the way it go. Like you linkin' people up together and tryin' to figure it out. Who already have their own stuff on there? Yeah, who already have their own stuff. I think that's a good idea. We'll have to talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about that for sure. Yeah, that's what I said. We'll have to get rid of it. Cause it's hard. I talked to Smoothie a little bit about something like that. I mean, he'll talk a lot. He called me sometime and you just build relationships and when you come through here with me, I'm a hustler so we're always tryin' to figure out ways to do somethin' to make somethin' bigger, you know? Right. That's what a real thing can do. We gon' try to make it pop, you know what I'm sayin'? Nah, for real. So how was that love of a thing? How was the show? And where was it at? All around, I love it. Really? Even though I love it, like, you know, I ain't never really just out there but the school. What, love of a land out there? Y'all didn't go to love of a land at SPC? Love of a? Yeah, I had my last show was at Love of a Land. You really? Yeah, with Cornish. Okay. I had two, okay, we got there Friday night. Had their show Friday night at the Black Sheep. Okay. Yeah, the hell, it's still, we take that bitch up. Like, all the way, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, that moment was live and then the next day we had that day party, like that fret party. Yeah. Like, swimming pool, they had, I don't, they had this, it was like, a lot of stuff was still going on. Really? They ain't give up. They just crazy, man. They just have a good time and that's all they do, man. They just, so we turned that one up and then just waited a few hours and then I had that one at level. Wow. So like, going to a lot of parties and going on. So I had fun, like we had fun, the shows were good, good vibes. So, yeah, love it was turnt. What's up with, what's up with, you do stuff in Luzam, Streetport or anywhere down there, yeah? Man, we just, he just getting a whole lot of people just DMing, like, from everywhere, like Florida. Yeah. Like, South Carolina. The Tampa song. Yeah, everywhere. What inspired that song, man? Man, I'll tell you, I was working the job. I'm just outright, I'm in ground mode, so I'm, I used to write, you know what I'm sayin'? I don't write no more. But back then, 2019, like, I used to sit down and write songs, like three, four songs a day. And I used to go to Orlando studio, like, you might have to just book an appointment if I can't catch a ride. So I might book an appointment and I worked the job. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? So I worked the job, I worked the train, man. So I just tried to get some in so I can have some listen to while I'm working. Can you give me more inspiration? Like, now I gotta get the hell about it. You know what I'm sayin'? So I just, it was like a song I recorded, like just my regular routine. I didn't give a damn about this song. Not sayin' I didn't because I wrote it, but. But it hit. It hit. And then I was just tryin' to figure out my single, like, what should I put out? You know what I'm sayin'? And my homeboy Jaylin, he was just like, I think you need to drop that tempo out first before you drop the tape. Hell yeah. I said, well, let's listen to it. So we listen to it, about five times in a corp. I'm like, I wanna drop tempo. So when I dropped it, it was a reaction from that. Like, from our color. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? Like, so I'm like, okay, cool. You know, I dropped the tape, gone up on my little business. You know? Next thing I know. Somebody hit, what did they say? Man, this thing goin' stupid, man. Like, this goin' crazy. It was basically just like that. Yeah. Juicin' up in me up. Like, we went to Atlanta. My boy T-Jones, like the me, juice, T-Jones. I was gonna ask you about him. Yes, my boy. I was gonna ask you about him because I'm tryin' to get it. I'm tryin' to, I need his address. Okay. Because I be writing people. That's what I do. I know how to talk. My boy be texting me. Oh yeah, that's good. Like, I got the little email thing he got. Letting know that Boss Talk 101 wanna be on his first interviews when he come home. Okay, cool. We hot. Tell him we hot. We fire hot. And by the time he get here, nigga, he's gonna be turned all the way up. Cause I've been lookin' for him. I already, I think I told juice, I told DJ Juice, whoever, I need that address. Nah, for real, he coming home soon. Yeah, nah, I'ma write him anyway. If he wasn't coming home, she know I write niggas ain't gonna never come home. That's real, though. That's what I do. No, that's what I do. That keep me home. Nah, for sure. Cause you can't never forget where you come from. That's what I do, man. When I be gone and I be all around these states, whatever, I go back home, I go back home. I gotta go back to the hood. Yeah. It's like an oil change to me. You know what I'm saying? Just bring me back down to every phone. I get it. 100%. And especially because hearing it from a person who've already been there, done that, and getting that letter, because sometimes I see these letters come in and he'll read them to me and they're going through different things in prison while they're there that have never experienced before. And he can write them and say, man, just stay focused on this, do this, do that. And to me, that helps because people in there, you can't really depend on somebody in there to be trying to be, you know, there for you. Yeah. That's what I, like, when he hit me up, you know what I'm saying? Cause I know, I know it broke him. Like I know I hurt him a little bit, but he strong, my boy's strong though. I know I hurt him a little bit cause you're going from this to this. You know what I'm saying? But so when I talk to him, man, he ain't good spirits though. You know, he's gonna be all right. I mean, it's really, it's another life, but it's still living. Anything can happen in there just like out here. He read it though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has time to write. He got time to write, he got time to study, he got time to read, he need to study himself, self-evaluation, man, cause self-awareness is real. So it's a lot of stuff that go with having that time. You gotta take advantage of that time. And that time is serious because at the end of the day, you'll never get that type of time again, hopefully, you'll never get that damn time again. But you see what I'm saying? But you definitely gotta take advantage of that time when you get it. You know what I mean? Most definitely. Because that time is crucial, it's detrimental that you become a better human, man. Like nobody has that type of time to sit around like that and think. It depends on you though. Yeah, yeah, some people treat it like the free world. A lot of people go down there and just lose it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're being there for a smaller sentence and you sit next to a nigga that's got two years, two life sentences in a day. And he trying to talk to you. Ain't much for us to talk about, nigga. I got to move around. You're right. He just wanna talk, man. No, no, no. We can't, no. Me and you are not going to write direction to be hanging out, nigga. You're gonna be up forever, nigga. I'm leaving. Fuck you, man. So who pushes you to do what you do? Because I hear you talk about your grandma a lot. My granny, nene, D3, everybody really passed. Like I said, passed away. And then also I came from, my family ain't never had anything. Man, we ain't not saying like that, but. Oh, but we on now, nigga. Like real talk, like we coming out of, we have nothing. So it's just, somebody got to do it. Yeah. It's like a sacrifice. So you doing it for your family? I'm doing it for that, yeah. No kids? It's bigger than me. I ain't got no kids. Good. You know what I'm saying? Great, nigga, don't get no kids. That's good when you're doing it for other people and not yourself, you know. But at the same time, don't burn yourself out for that at the same time. You still got to take care of yourself. Right. Let me ask you. I got to ask you this. This is one of my, if you watch my show, you will know what I'm about to say to you. Right. But you ain't watching, right? Man, you ain't doing damn bitch. No time, you just came out of nowhere. Check it, man. Top three artists of all time, man. Dead or live. Annie Johnner. Top three artists of all time. Wait for me? For you. Your top three. What's your, you're hurt, nigga. Tell me what the message said. I want to hear what your cousins and them said. I want your top three. Okay, since you said Annie Johnner. How I feel? Number one. Of course, Michael Jackson. Did nigga love old Michael? Mike living off the wall, Billie Jean. Beat it, nigga, you nigga's hell. Thriller, nigga, y'all. He stole Halloween looking at it. I like it. Who else? Who else, I want to say. I don't feel like going to the rap. Just for me. That's fine. Just for me. What you like? What's your top three artists of all time? Top three, man. That's a wild, that's a wild, man. Everybody has to say it. You know what I'm saying? He's still alive, though. You know what I'm saying? That's far as rapping wise. My top three, who I really like, just really just, wear it, play it, wear it, play it. I like 50. You like 50? Man, I like 50. I get it. I see it now. I see it, I hear it, nigga. I hear it, yeah. He on that type of time. That nigga a boss, too. So he's your number two? That's your number two. Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna get into my rap. How I feel like people I listen to, but 50, and then my number three. Three. It's always hard to 30. And number three hard. It always is. Every nigga that's sitting here. I think everybody always said, can you give me four? Can you give me four? And I'm like, no. I do want to squeeze by my body. Your number three is, nigga. Three. You finna do me something. I'm gonna have to go, just because this who, I like him. You know what I'm saying? That's what it's all about. I'm gonna have to go. Fuck nigga, what is up with this shit? Ooh, ooh, ooh. I gotta see it. Yep. Give it up. When I started this, I never woulda thought this woulda been so, so. For me, this is for me. This is for me. Because I like the shit talking. Yeah. And he just crazy. I like Gucci. That's just for me. Already, that's my nigga. That's my nigga, Gucci, nigga. You say all the time. Why, man, this is. Well, why was it so hard for you to say Gucci? I'm a nigga, Gucci, nigga. Who don't like Gucci? All out of all genres. Man, I don't know. Gucci is just trying to rap. But this is not, but this is your opinion. This is your option. Gucci, nigga, I met the nigga a few times, nigga, real cool too. Like I ain't gonna lie on some real, no bodyguard type nigga. Yes, that was back in the day. That's the old Gucci. New Gucci got all kinds of niggas round him up. I'm young. I ain't got to meet him yet. I ain't got a whole team over that 10, 17, man. That dude always have been for the culture. He built that whole city up Atlanta. You can get, it was on his back. Y'all can talk about all the mother niggas, but he put it on his back. He worked harder than them. Niggas ain't work hard as Gucci. Nah, Gucci did work hard. That nigga worked hard. So he said Michael. He said 50. That nigga said 50, nigga said Gucci, man. Shout out to Gucci, though. Yeah. Gucci, my friend. That nigga go hard, don't even know some real. Niggas go hard. Future too. So Future, Future go hard too. He came out of nowhere. He make the banging songs. The club will jump, nigga. Yeah, the old Future, the hard ones. Bro, I don't think they understand. I even have a phone to turn on the lights and my phone saying that I'm talking about that 1,000. Say like, I just, his style though. You know, his style kind of rubbed off on me like a little bit. I ain't going to tell nobody. He heard it now. His style kind of, I like Future. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody from Tix is anything. And they get to pass me. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like everything. Yeah, everything. Bro, I like UGK. I like UGK. I'm straight in PMC. I don't give a damn about nobody else to be honest with you. All your top three, they were cute. You know what I'm saying? They were cute. You can't, PMC a whole another level for me. Like I know how it started in Texas. So it's a whole different vibe for me. Like when a nigga like Pimp did it. If a nigga from Texas, he got to pick Pimp if he my age because he know what he did to put the light on Texas. You know, don't get me wrong. Scarface and them did that thing but it wasn't a Texas thing. And I said that right before we started. Pimp's seen many people respect Texas. No, for real. And that's what you got to remember. That's why it goes so hard for it. No, it ain't gonna be everybody else's top three. And I don't give a damn about their top three. I care about mine. And my number one is Pimp. Gonna always be. Why it goes so hard on these Tik Tokers and stuff like that. Even when I say something like, even sometimes in my music, I say something about Texas. Cause it's like, I don't feel like they respect them enough for me. They don't. You know what I'm saying? I literally feel like they don't respect them enough for me. So it's like, all right. You got to show it. Oh, when I go out of town, I talk real slow, nigga. I don't want you. I just act like I'm so hood. Throw country, nigga. Where you from? Yeah, nigga. I don't even talk right. Chunk of rock and all that. I don't even say nothing right. Everything gonna be wrong outside of Texas. Slang it. Yeah, I sent it and all kind of stuff. Seen and gonna be sent it, nigga. Whatever. Who would you like to collab with? Yeah. As in, as in general. If you could collab with anybody in this whole music industry, who would it be? Future? Future. Already. You need to go to Atlanta. You got to freak on Atlanta because that can happen, man. All you got to do is go and keep working. No female artist you would like to work with? Definitely female artist. Cause she go hard. I like Omareta. Okay. Omareta hard. I think she slept on like. Y'all ain't got no female artists on in y'all camp yet? You know they got to get a female artist since when you made it, you know what I'm saying? Not yet, man. Not yet. That's it. I like Omareta. I mean just to be real, cause she from Texas. What's that other nigga named Kanika? What's his name? Guala P. That's my homie. Yeah, that's my brother. That's the, I've been seeing him on your music and I've seen his video. So you know, I thought he might be with you. I said, I got to get that boy. We just came back from love. We just came back from love. I heard that. It's good. I love the unity. That's why I'm just looking at how you connecting with who you're connecting with. I ain't gonna never tell my back on it. Yeah, yeah. I said you lawyer me and lawyer you. Exactly. It's out of the way. That's what's up, man. So when you hit that meal ticket or two meal or a hundred meal, nigga, I want you to keep that same energy. I always like it, man. It's just, it's easy to say it to all these people coming in your life, man. It's hard, bro. Like, you know, I'm pretty sure Megan didn't think she was going to just walk off a lead car and them like that until Beyonce and Jay showed up. It's easy to say, nigga, until they show up. Like I said, I don't know what all it was. I don't know nothing about that. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, will the nigga pull up? Oh, man, I'd have seen niggas pull up. I don't know. The whole place just go different, isn't it? But you want to know something? How I look at it. See, you should be looking at who I, you trying to wonder who I am. You feel what I'm saying? So I see Jay-Z new. I say, it's cool. Yeah. I'm not saying like I don't respect them, but I'm not finna just run up over there and highlight you, go crazy, and stuff like that. Like that's just me. I don't know. I'm not saying that I don't respect them because I respect every man in this industry. So any man period. But it's just like, that's even when I seen this other dude, he ain't gonna say his name. Now you're acting like P.M.C.s. Nah, just keep it in the room. This is good. I'm telling you that. That's the way you supposed to act, nigga. Because I am me. When you a stomp down a cat, it don't matter who nigga, you gonna be you. And most of the time, the real one stand out. I know, I'm a real one in my heart. I done been around people, and I still get my shine. That's what tell me I'm shining over here. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you in the room and a mist of people, right, you been there with me and basically you still feel like nigga, I belong here. Yeah. And nigga's asking you who you is. And then that's when you feel like, yeah. That's what it is. I even was at the mall, brother. We was at the mall, there was some Dallas rappers. There was at the mall, whatever. But I guess cause they was there, he was talking to him, his management or whatever. He was asking me a couple of questions about what I got going. Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? But I guess it's cause his artist was over there. I guess he thought I was gone. Hey, what's up bro, bro, bro, bro. And you see me just like I see you, bro. You know what I'm saying? We gonna come and speak, we gonna come and speak. Other than that, I'm gonna keep my dish just like I'm keeping you up. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I'm gonna treat anybody. I think that's the way real niggas from East Texas do it. Yeah, let's get out. Let me go to Texas. Because of me, I can tell you, I've been there and you be in a place where people at and you don't just get overwhelmed by, you know that, you done been there. You done see, it's a certain thing. And my wife is like that. We can be in the room with people, it don't, I think we just feel like we who we are, niggas. Y'all comfortable who we are. Yeah, that's awesome. You know, when you feel like you somebody and you know who you are, then you don't, you don't, you don't move and shake to a beat of what everybody else doing anyway. If something about me else, I wouldn't be here. I feel like I just don't like force it. That's what it is. Cause a lot of people gonna force it just to be noticed. If it's, if they don't see, they all gonna see to like my granny saying, you know what I'm saying? Like, wow, this dude can do the same stuff. And I can do, he dogging her words to what I'm doing, what I just did. One little thing, but everybody want to talk about me, but y'all want to talk about this was going on over here. Like, baby, you shining, you glow in the dark. You shining in the dark. Like this is what that is. Like, you got to owe people gonna see it. Exactly. So I was just like, okay. So I just, I always think about that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, I get it. Like, I know that, I know that when you feel a certain way, I think you need to keep that same energy because that's what's gonna reflect you. And that's gonna really, really, that's gonna permeate the audience. And they know that's how you are. And that's a part of your character. And that's what's gonna last. Authentism. When you're authentic, it's gonna last. When you act fake, it's gonna fade away. That's why we don't sell number real clothes in here. But you can only be fake for so long. Nah, that shit, I always gonna struggle. That's work. You say, everything got to be real. If it's real, then you ain't got to worry about it going away, you niggas. My little slogan, whenever I'm around the most handsome, so chose, and I say, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what they, like, most handsome, so chose. And I say, God only made one C-G-O-P. There it is. So when I say that, it's just like, that's how I feel about me. You know, that's just what it is. And some people can say that sound cocky. You know, that's gonna be like, oh, that's cocky. You know, self love. That's fine, that's fine, that's fine. Kind of cocky with whatever, but that's how I look at it, though. C-G-O-P, yeah. So what do you have in work coming up? What can we look out for? That sound like a lot. I got like, what? I think I was having three projects for the remainder of this year, even though I dropped one, and reloaded another one. So I got like three coming out this year. When? You know what these days? June, October, December. That's hot. Okay. I mean, I done recorded 40 songs in a week. I can do seven songs in a week. How they gonna do videos back with it, too? Yeah, I'm gonna have videos, a whole lot of videos, like, I gotta shoot videos in Houston this week, like a couple of them, but. I got like six of them, five, six of them in the box right now, just ready. So I just keep adding up. Just so when I flood, I'ma flood. I'm just letting tempo do its thing. I got this, I don't wanna, can I talk on that? Half the time. Go ahead and tell us. I can't say that. Why you can't just drop songs? Because you're gonna be surprised and I like that. You know what I'm saying? It's big. That tell me y'all pre-planned instruction at the correct weight. I like that. You know what I mean? I like that, man. I really do, man. Like, if it's something that you guys gonna drop, we gonna be watching and waiting. You know what I mean? Come back here and drop it. The information. We could do that. No, you always welcome here. Once you come, nigga, you can always come back. All you gotta do is hit me up or hit Boss Talk 101. And we. Did you follow our Instagram yet? Yeah, he told me. He was on my throat. I was like, I had to do that. Because that's just the way we connect because she like trying to get them followers up on that page. And it's new. We're new. And everybody on that page from Half Pipe, you are the ones that really count. And she get us tossed and white-shotted the page out. You know, it's just four or three hundred people. Man, man, there's something that's messed me up. He can't answer. A lot. Yeah. That's what's up, man. Everybody love this spot. And what people don't understand is that, like, he's always so busy doing stuff. So I'm the person who back him up in a lot of, like, texting, trying to get information. So if I have everybody in one spot, I can easily send you a message from Boss Talk and say this, this, this. Because he'd be editing. He'd be doing a whole lot of stuff. So I take off a lot of pressure off of him. You doing it out. Yeah. So that's the reason why. I'm good with it. And I still looking for most stuff to do. I get up every morning, three o'clock. Every day, nigga. You be at the club, nigga, I'm up. You ain't gonna be stopping. We gonna get it, nigga. He's taking us in the building. So who do you have that normally do your videos? Do you like one particular video? To be real, how I looked at it, man, when I was just using, I wanted to build. You know what I'm saying? Like, every artist, at least, you were like, nah, I know this camera guy. Like, I know this dude. Like, I know he shoots such and such videos. Like, they built up together. So that's what I wanted to do. But right now, I've just been giving other people a chance to work, like, just blowing my lives and just trying to see what they got off. You know what I'm saying? So right now, I'm still like, we just still shoot. I don't shoot anybody. You know, the best guy I had, you remember the one of the best guys, cause I'm not gonna crap on all the other niggas. Yeah, cause we've had a lot of different ones. But the dude that I used to take to Vegas, Cali, wherever we was going is J. Tyler, he, which he'd start doing cards and everything else. But you can tell the ones that's talented. Naturally talented. That's just, they just gonna do it regardless. You ain't gotta tell them nothing. They just gonna make show when the video time, you ain't gotta say how to do it. They gonna help you create. That's when you know you got the money. You know the ones I respect and another thing, another thing, their budget stuff. Yeah. Like keep it real, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we gonna pay you with, why would you? Just cause they pay more. You should treat everything the same. The same. Everything the same. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Everything should be the same. It's a $400 video or $2,000 video should be the same, bro. $8,000. They show character. But not everybody has that character. They go after the money. And they think that the more money you spend is the quicker I'm gonna get recognized by the bigger people and that's what they're thinking. Or some people might say, if you spend more money, I can give you more creativity because I can buy this and buy that and make it elaborate. So it can, you know, but people don't understand. You can still be on a small budget but use your creative sense to make it unique and not just use all of these props and everything else is costing a lot of money. You know what I mean? Another thing is, like I always, since I didn't jump in, you gotta invest in yourself. So I'm not looking at, oh, it cost them what? Nah, you got him, cause it's gonna come back. So I look at it like, more you put in, the more it can come out. So if I say I want to spend $400 with you, cause the next time I shoot, I probably throw $2,000 at you just because, like, I know for a fact he ain't doing it just because I'm just trying to see your character. Like, I don't like that energy. You're building a team. And see, I really, man. If you really wanna be- He be on my ass, like, he be like, bro, I don't see how you, he would, he, you fuck up, you gone. That's how he, that's how he is. Can't do it like that. Me, it was cause I see it, I know you can do better. Yeah. Like, I know you, that's how I get this big ass whole that guy. No, no, I think you go the right way cause you gotta try to critique somebody. Cause you gonna get somebody else that same energy. You know, you gotta make your, I always say make your worst person that's in the group, your best worst person. Because you gotta keep critiquing them. It's, everybody not gonna be just great, but you need a, like what you guys just doing is the show. Somebody should have been doing back visuals, all this stuff. This is a movement. And if it, and that person don't have to, he just have to have a little talent with a G7 or a small 4K camera so he can get some good back footage and we can show people the movement. That content is so important. You always need content. It's so important. And y'all doing something that some people will never do. So you gotta do that. And you gotta find that person and you gotta make sure to give them that opportunity. That's what I've done for years. People looking me crazy. Like I always had a camera man with me. I could do the work, but I would always take them, fly them here, fly them there, wherever I'm going, I'd take them with me. Like putting people in position? Yeah, yeah. And I would take them, I would take them with me, let them shoot whatever, give them names and all that. And I can always go back to all now, all my footage. I got everything that I was doing when I was in Chicago. When I was in here. And you can reuse your footage for another time. You don't have to put it out. They're just like your music. You might have had written something four years ago, but it's now time to release it and nobody will know the difference. That'd be mad at me. Because when I be so stuck on my new stuff, as soon as I get on, I'm like, damn, I want to try this. You know what I'm saying? When you got this that you just did, I went up 200 songs and I'm just, no, we need to get some of this out. So, I guess. I heard you say earlier. I'll go ahead. I heard you say earlier that you didn't write anymore. Mm-mm. Because I looked, it was a decision because I wanted to better myself. Like actually use my brain. Like yes, if it's something, if it's a track that I feel like I need to get up in here, then I might sit down. But I haven't did that in so long. I just sit down and just, it just really attested myself. And it's like, when I first did it, oh, it might take me an hour and a half just to do it because I'm coming and punching in. Like I'm punching in. And then now, take like 30 minutes. Like 30 minutes now, I just, cause it's just better myself. Honestly, I just look at myself like a machine because I want to be better than what I am. So I just like, well, let me test myself, push myself to the limits. Not like I'm trying to. You will write again, because most people always write when something happens, when an experience happens, and they're like, man, I got to put this down. This is so, I got to do this. And you will stop everything that you're doing just to put it down because of the situation and how it affected you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Cause I would say admirable, but crazy to me is that when y'all walked in and I saw all these young faces and that's your team. And I'm like, that's your manager. I'm like that. They're responsible. Y'all are young. Yeah, just 20, 25. But. Oh, y'all don't look, y'all look younger. He's just 20, 25. Y'all, I was guessing like 22, 20. I'm like, but is that. Responsible. Is that, I get that y'all are responsible. I can get that from just talking to y'all and hearing the things that y'all are doing. But walking into a meeting and they see, you know, is that a disadvantage? Is that how, how does that come across to everybody? When I see such a young team. I like it because I know you're gonna try me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, cause they gonna see that y'all don't know. Right. None. Man, we bust in the head too. Like all that life. Cause you just, man, I never, ever, ever I'm not from looking at you and be like, it's a score. You know what I'm saying? I know this man background. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I can't do that. But a lot of people do. A lot of people judge and look at you and be like... It's gonna bite them in the ass. You know what I'm saying? I always bite them in the ass. I think you said a lot of valid things. The thing I like the most is that you don't get shook when you're in the presence of these people. You know, and that's not, not being a person who cloutchates or get caught up in the entertainment industry. Cause a bunch of these niggas is not real. You know, a lot of these niggas ain't been in the streets. And I mean, for me, being a cat that's really been in the streets, being around industry niggas, I didn't feel like, you know, I felt like they would. I just felt like I had some essence to me that they didn't have. And I felt like what they were rapping about was me. So I was like, these niggas rap about me. Being real. Like when you did the stuff I done and seen the things I've seen, I'm not to my own horn, but I hear your songs and they sound real cool. But niggas, have you ever been in the situations that you're rapping about? No, nigga, you been rapping all your life, you know? So I look at stuff like that. So the ones, I'm telling you that's how I look at it. My boy Chos said the same thing, especially like where we from, like he from Smile Town, I saw the Houston too. You know what I'm saying? DJ Chos, I've been with Chos. He a real one too, like he a real one. Like I've been with Chos for so, but he was just basically saying like, same shit you said, like me just being around him? Yeah. It's gonna expose, and he ain't gonna always expose. We different. Yeah. When you smile, you look the city. It's a difference, man. It hit different, you know, like when you see people like Jason Peters from Queens City, you know, play for the Philadelphia Eagles or you see dudes like Bobby Joe, you know, different guys that I've been around and I know you know that they country boys. You know what I'm saying? Different people from the country that didn't came from nothing. I got other partners. I ain't gonna say their name cause they probably don't wanna be on this show because they're still in the streets. But at the end of the day, when you know that and you know that you go from having nothing to having millions, and then you turn around and you know you dealing with the industry and you around these certain cats, you know already what it is, bro. You know what I'm saying? So that's the whole game. I'm just prepared really. I just don't, I just, I'm prepared, but I'm not prepared for who it might be. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's like, nigga, I really fuck with you. Like, I really fuck with you, but you want some other shit. You know what I'm saying? I done seen those. I done seen people who I had love, I love that music. And then when I met on like this nigga, here is not what that is. And it's sad, but that's how you'll know it, right? All the aura is gonna tell it. And it's not something that you to get caught up in. It's about business anyway when you're on what you own. You gotta understand, that's what it is. So a lot of people, I also respect, you know what I'm saying? I respect the ones who, I don't know them. I do a song with them. They're a civil war, it's just business. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But if something happened to this song and this song just take off, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna know the difference when niggas is, the same energy you have when you first met me. It's the same, man. I need you to keep that, I ain't your brother. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're gonna have to keep that. I was saying, you just, what's up, brother, brother? Like you just, I feel it. Like I understand. Bro, I'm gonna tell you something when it's real. You gonna always connect. Like I said, when certain people come on this show, like I'm gonna always reach back out, check on them, hey man, where you at? And if you call me on some crash dummy stuff, I'm gonna tell you, that's how I do. Like a lot of niggas that have been on this show, I believe gained a lot of respect for me after they left this show and they called me back with some and I'd be like, say, nigga, I got this. Why would you do that? You know what I'm saying? Come on, bro, you got too much to lose. That's the way I be talking. I'm gonna be like, so if you ever gonna call me, I'm gonna be honest with you, C.C. Opie. I'm straight. I'm a straight man with just one thing about you. No, but I'm the type of nigga that's gonna tell you something that's real. And I don't care about the money. That's the same thing I was telling and running about yelling and nothing. I care about the character, man. You know what I mean? I care about that it's real. I'll never be, I can't do the fake stuff. Ain't no money can put me on that and I know that. So that's what some niggas get off to, but I can't. And I ain't saying these niggas ain't real or these niggas, but I'm just telling you how I am. I'm not gonna get you on that crash dummy, man. You young, you are ready for, y'all fit to make way more money than I ever had. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, man, I wanna see you keep it. I wanna see you stay in there. We're people that love and love hard and we always wanna see people do well. We're not those type of people that, you know, see you doing good, we try to pull you down and stuff like that. We wanna see you do good. Cause we've known many people who left us and went and did good and we'll tell people about them. We'll tell people about them. You know what I mean? Yeah, pure. Man, God got a special place for you, officer. So, and then if there's any way that we could help you get to where you need to go, we're sure to share it, you know what I mean? And like I said, we still deal. I was just talking to a cat this morning that used to be here when he was a kid and he worth millions. I mean, we seen it. We already seen it. I see cats that when we met them, they hugged me, wanna take a picture with me. Now they're doing all the music for people like Jonah Lucas, Lil Baby and all of them. They back seemed to be doing all the production. But when I first met them, they wasn't doing that. So God let me see these things. And you see the effect that it had on their life too. So I think that's something that, you know, that I think he's wanting us to help others by letting us see these things early on. I'm being real. That's how it is. Like I look at it like people like, man, don't start acting Hollywood. I still feel the same. Like I'll be down there. Like if I do go back to E6, I still try to move the same. Whatever people get to them. Nah, you just like, what you doing? I hear you out big time. Nah, they didn't know that. What I did notice when she started, it ain't true that change is always them. Exactly. You don't evolve anyway though. You're supposed to evolve. Yeah, it's evolving for the better, bossing up. You know what I'm saying? And you really can't be out a lot. Like you gotta move different. You know what I mean? I move like I'm upon a guilt. I love what you're doing. You stay out the way. Yeah, you have to. I move like a, it's like a dot on a map. Like you ain't gonna know where I'm at. I know I'm nowhere I'm at. That's what you're supposed to do. Damn, what the hell you doing? I'm like, I'm good, but I gotta stay out the way like, that's saying I'm running from anything and then like this, but. Being cautious because not everybody mean you good and some people will try to do things to you. That's how it is. I ain't, you know what I'm saying? Gotta be smart about it. Yeah. It's like, I know God got me. You know what I'm saying? Most definitely. And I ain't the biggest baddest. I ain't where it, I ain't saying I ain't scared of no one. No, I'll let whatever, cause I ain't scared of nobody. We already know that. That part we know. But it's just like, if you could prevent it, prevent it. Yeah. That part. I ain't got no ego like that. You know what I'm saying? That part we know. I mean, I think the main thing is that you understand that you're a target because to me, the devil is gonna try to find a way to knock you off the throne. You know what I mean? Cause it's something special and he already can see it. And so he gonna try to knock you off that throne. Like you got a buzz and things is going great for you. And other people see that, but they can be used for a negative strategy to try to stop what God have for you. So you gotta move different. Obstacles, man. You gotta overcome obstacles. Like I had an obstacle right before my show. Really, to be honest, it's two. Two obstacles. Like I had one, some happy man in the incident. And a lot of people probably be ashamed to talk about it. Like I ain't even ashamed to talk about it. Like I met them all, bro. I come back, my car got broken. You know what I'm saying? I'm not tripping. It's like the third time that I have it to me though. That's the way it goes. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, I don't know this car. You know what I'm saying? But I'm looking at all these cars around my car. And I'm in the front. I gotta touch. Okay. So y'all don't see this. This beam all these fours, you don't touch me. You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't see this. You don't see this. You know what I'm saying? This hair can't. I don't touch me. So I look at it like, all right, cool. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, all right. So let me not just, I was hot. Don't get me wrong. I was hot. I was hot. I don't understand why. Nah. I was hot. I don't get it. You know what I'm saying? Man, I don't be tripping off stuff like that. That's what you pay insurance. I'm gonna be real. I don't be caring about that stuff, man. I guess cause when you start getting money, you won't be caring about nothing. This stole all that. You just put insurance on it and go. I'm beyond, that's what it's for. At the end of the day, long as it ain't touch you, you can get anything back. That's why I say, I think it's on the guy right there. So don't worry about that. We finna get this money, man. You know what I'm saying? A little bit of things ain't, they stopping. You know, big thing popping. Shout out to T.I, nigga. You know what I'm talking about? We trying to get that bread, nigga. Big money, nigga. You know what I'm saying? We ain't trying to hear that stuff. So where you headed, you can't even trip. You know what I'm saying? You headed to a whole different level, man. So if I'm gonna say this is probably one of the last things I asked, but I always asked this for the young niggas that's coming up, man. 15 year old that's coming up. If you could go back, you 23 now and talk to your 13 year old self. What would you say to prepare yourself for what you have about to face now? You know, the things you went through. You making the right choices. I wouldn't change it to be real just because I felt like it would make, you know what I'm saying? I think we trying to change like heartbreak or something they went through. Like even losing, like to be real crazy might sound cause I know it's all in guys playing. I might not want my people to pass away but I would really of the same way, like everything. Cause I feel like it's in guys way. Like that's just what that is. Like it was meant for that. Like every little heartbreak I done went through from this girl, that, that. But like bro, you a warrior bro. That's how it is man. Like just do you. Let me ask you. But it's not even that. Hold on. But I gotta replace that. Yes. It made me forget what I was going to say. Okay, go ahead. I remember. The thing we want you to do man is keep doing what you've been doing man for us following your dream, your aspiration and success man. It's coming to you. You just gotta be ready for it. You, oh you figured out what you're going to ask. Okay, she popped up. I see how I'm seeing it. It came back. No, I understand what you're saying but then I was saying that going back and telling the 12 year old you how to do something different. Maybe there's something that you said you might have wished you had done earlier. You might wish you had started a rapping game earlier than started at a time you did. Would you go back and tell that 12 year old anything that would help you today? And I don't want to say just put that football down but you just, boy you made me just say that. Put that damn ball down there and get to that music because I'm going to tell you something nigga that football ain't going nowhere. So I probably would. And he for races. I sure would. I sure would tell myself like, boy, I'm going to put that pee skin down. And get that pee in. I'm going to stand up behind the little microphone and I'm going to do you. So I'll probably tell myself that. It'll probably be here quicker. Man. That's what I was wondering. Well, hey man, we appreciate you coming on the show man, our time has brought up, man. Boy, I sure enjoyed this interview. And I'm going to be honest with you, we locked in. Hey, I know you got a little manager and all that nigga but I'm for the call you, I ain't lying nigga. I'm going to get this song too, nigga. Y'all don't even realize it, you know. Nah, you can get it out of there. No man, I just appreciate you for coming on the show. And anytime y'all need, you probably want to, I'm trying to do something with the East Texas click man to where we can come up with a shirt or something or clothing line that we can do together. I do clothes. So if we can do something where we can put some clothes on everybody down, that'll where we can all work together so it makes sense. That's what I want to do. You know what I mean? Something where you gotta wear it all the time but it ain't got to say nothing about this. It just need to be something to where when you guys, you need to have something to where when you guys do the visuals that we can show what we are and who we are and what we stand for. You ain't got no boss talk to T-shirts? Oh, they coming. The whole set. I'm going to do the whole short set first. And it's going to be fly. Uh-oh. And support. No, no, no. I'm going to say it to you. No, I like to support. Man, I already got money. Nigga, I don't need you to do no one thing. Nigga, I want you down to support. Mike Jones ain't that what he did when he coming here? He wants to support. Everybody wants to support. Nigga, I want you all to work this gear and let's get out of here. We have a unique hustle right now but the boss talk is coming. Boss talk coming. I want it. It's me. I'm romantic, bro. I want it to be right. I want it to be. I don't want this same old Preston. I don't want that. You see me right here. I'm going to hit it with the stitch. I might do the, you know what I'm saying? The unique hustle on it, but it's going to be something real nice. That's what I'm working on for everybody. I want to do something where it can hit right, you know? I've been doing these clothes. That's what I love. Check it, man. Boss talk 101, man. It's a unique hustle. It's a unique hustle. And we out. And we out.