 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews In this episode of Mind Pump. Oh, I put you guys on the hot seat for just a quick minute there about daddy daycare I don't want to think about that stuff. I know you guys both got a little nervous talking about that stuff So for about 42 minutes, we have some nice conversation We talk about the largest aquariums in the world that took my kids to the Monterey Aquarium We talk about country music. Sal was wrong by the way, and that just you guys will see. Yeah, it was almost it wasn't It wasn't top five, bro. I was almost wrong. Mr. Google fail today We talk about country music and Adam it says how he likes to go there because of all the hot girls Way to go. We have rollin' in the bus dick. We get the true. We get the update on Justin's chickens After that debacle that happened earlier Hashtag productivity and then we get a kind of a heated discussion about the pluses and minuses of putting your kids on Social media. We also announced our flash sale, which I talked about which I talked about the end of the episode as well If you want to get Information about that flash so you have to register for the 30 days of coaching which is at mind pump media calm And then we talk about our ganify contest that we were coming up with so I think what we decided was people If you go on Instagram or may know maybe someone gives us a good idea like to see what you want to keep it open Yeah, let's keep it. We're not gonna. We're gonna nail it down yet. We'll definitely put it out there Let's find out give shit for free. We want to give away some free or ganify supplements So give us some suggestions. I guess they should email Admin at mind pump media calm with your suggestions on how you can win an organify Supplement and then we get into the questions the first question was did you tell where people could go if they actually want to Organify right now. That's great. Thanks to thanks, Adam. It's organized. I'm Adam That's Justin Doug is right over there. It's organifyshop.com Austin and also you can use the code mind pump for a massive discount And let's get into the questions the first question was what styles of CNS training Could you do in replace of trigger sessions? For example isometrics or plyometrics? Then we talked about working the floor as a personal trainer Many of your clients can come from the actual people working out in the gym on the floor We talk about some of the techniques on how to approach them and how to make that happen I'm works the pole. That's right Might be a good idea to hang out in the parking lot see who drives up in the hundred thousand dollar whip Yep, and sound like a douchebag then we could talk about If you have clients with eating disorders what you can do to help them and who you should send them to and finally Justin's been in a band before does mind pump prepare to being in a band He thinks it does. He talks about it in that particular And finally this month you can get access to our private forum for free There's about 2,000 members on their personal trainers fitness professionals myself Adam and Justin We're on there every single day You can get access for free if you enroll in any maps program or any maps bundle including our Superbundle, which is one year's worth of exercise Programming and also don't forget the price goes up in September. You can find all of that at mind pump media comm Yeah, I'm all by myself They all left me But the good news is people left a lot of reviews. In fact, we got 46 reviews this last week And I'm gonna give away 12 t-shirts. So take that Sal Adam and Justin Alright our winners are Jackie 0 7 2 1 Rosie rail 10 amazing me 0 3 1 1 Kenden Shaw Jazz Massa Junior Swam Pime 0 9 6 5 Dudley to right Joey bag of donuts Joe Brendle F Suric 88 and being the best Colin all of you are winners in the name I just read to iTunes at mind pump media comm send your shirt size your shipping address and we'll get that right out to you Welcome to the Sal and Adam show where we talked shit about Justin who's not plugged in or on the show So anyway, Adam you ever seen somebody with Paylor skin and Justin Never. Oh, he's here. Yeah, Justin. How you doing buddy of you bastards? Hey Justin. Yeah, you have very rugged Handsome look to your face. I know that it's it's huh. Yeah, you you're aware of it for sure You're not supposed to say that bro. It's like carry me through life so far You're supposed to be like, oh, thank you for that compliment. I'll be like, you know what I mean What'd you guys do this? No, I own that. Mm-hmm Would you do this weekend? If you have your kids or no, I do I had my kids this weekend I'm all week. I took I took them to the Monterey Bay Aquarium one of my favorite places on earth. Really? Oh, I love it there. Oh, I love it You know, it's funny. It's way smaller than I it's one of those things I remember when you were a kid that used to go to and you're like, oh, so big and amazing I went there like maybe a year or two ago and I had been there and probably Oh, it's totally it's like I was like this feels like an aquarium in somebody's house, dude This is like a tiny little thing dude. It's still one of the biggest aquariums in the world But it's you can walk the whole thing really? Yeah, it's considered one of the biggest aquariums in the world in the world It's one of the largest aquariums in the world. Wow. It is. I think it might even be top five I don't know. We should find out. Wow, Doug. Ooh that top five aquariums like Monterey Bay Aquarium And then put biggest aquarium in the world and see what pops up. I I love it there. I absolutely love it. It's just fascinating. I find so many of their What's your favorite the jellyfish or the big tank? So I love the jellyfish. Yeah, they're just one of my favorite. They're weird Yeah, it's aliens. It's a weird organism like that. It's almost all water. You know that right jellyfish are like almost no Mass to them whatsoever and yet they float around and like move their tentacles. It's pretty crazy What are they feed off of bacteria? What are they? Plankton. Yeah, they lots of plankton vital plankton or whatever. Yeah, and and then my daughter Loses like loses her mind for the sea otters. Oh, really? Yeah, just loses her too cute or what they look like little let's be honest They got little like beards. They look like little teddy bears in the water. They're fucking adorable little teddy bears They do they look like little teddy bears if you look at them And you know when they sleep together if two of them sleep next to each other they hold hands So they don't float away from each other. That's just that's just too. It's too adorable much Shark needs to eat them to regulate. No, dude. No Oh, it's number. It's the sixth largest aquarium in the world. Oh, see not top five. Yeah, I'm wrong again, Sal You know, it's cool Yes, you motherfucker, you know, it's cool. I knew it wasn't top five if I'm wrong. I'm always I'm always just wrong It's never like very wrong. It's always just what's the number one biggest. Oh, you're scrolling down Let's find I bet it's in China. How much you want to bet it's in China or somewhere in the Middle Dubai Oh Dubai second place by of course, what's first place get all the money done done done. Oh in Georgia Is that Georgia like America? I did not expect that Wow, I don't know. They had the biggest uh, I've been to the wall Do we have any any podcasters out in Atlanta, Georgia Atlanta, do we I don't know. No, no, I don't think so goes on I don't know anybody The cool casino cool casino and aquarium I'm down to go out there just for those two reasons Do they still make good hip-hop music or are they done now? Hmm. I'm looking at you at it because you're the you're always on the up-and-up. Yeah I'm not that much on the up-and-up where I know where these guys are born, dude I don't know fucking know if who's I'm sure dude because it was a thing for a while Right, it was East Coast then West Coast and then you're thinking of Nellie Atlanta had like they had no They had more Nat didn't Atlanta. Yeah No, he I mean that whole crew that was attached to Nellie is all from that area. What's his name? What's that little do with the dirty? He sounds like he's a big guy, but he's not he's a little guy little guy. I roll Ja rule. I don't know. He might be from That was a good that was a good one. Hey, you remember the first time pull that one out Resurrected that one. Remember the first time you saw him. You're like that guy makes that voice Yeah, yeah, no, he's tiny. It's like the lead singer lead singer of Pantera wasn't he a little guy, too Yeah, Phil and Samo. Yeah, I don't think I mean he wasn't that big Yeah, but you hear these guys his voice and you expect. Oh, yeah, he was an angry dude That's you know a lot of like famous actors singers a lot of them are really short. Yeah It's really common a lot of times in movies They have to yeah Hollywood shoots like special angles to make them look bigger than life when they're really these tiny little men Tom Cruise Yeah, right this is like God's way of balancing things out like well You got the short of the stick with the height and the stuff You're not very manly, but we're gonna make you super fucking famous But then like Thor that guy that plays Thor. I think he's like six two or six Well, he's a stud. He's you know, then there's those guys Is he more of a stud than the guy that plays Superman Henry Cavill? Yeah, really? What else has Henry Cavill done? What do you mean? Like what's his body of work? I don't know what else is Thor done a bunch of shit. He's been in quite a few movies. Oh, yeah But yeah, but I'm saying if you put him next to you know what? So there's that scene in Superman where Henry Cavill has a totally different guys though, too Yeah, they're both they're both blonde hair blue-eyed versus tall dark handsome, right? Yeah I lean towards the opposite of what I've you know, we're talked about this So I like the blonde hair blue-eyed guys, that's more my thing Yes, I Got a taste for it. Yeah, but I feel I feel like Doug would like the tall dark and handsome guy Oh, you think just cuz he's just because the way he responds cuz I was a strainer I see you trailing me. What did you guys do? Didn't you go to a concert or something like that? I did I want you to be gone. I went and saw Sam Hunt So first time that fast it might be interesting. No, it's his brother Mike. No. Yeah, thank you Sam Hunt is part of this R&B meets country music phenomenon that's been going on for the last probably five To eight years if I am guessing let's just do that sound like I actually like it And a lot and so if you're a if you're a country purist You don't like it like so you hate on it It which it reminds me of like remember when Limp Bizkit came on scene and the whole rapper and rock rock Right kid rock a lot of people don't like that. I am drawn to talent period Like I I just I don't I listen to all types of music There's I don't think there is a kind of music that I don't listen to I like yeah I like to actually be challenged musically right and I could get outside my comfort with it It was actually fucking really good man, and I'm not like a die-hard country Is it like upbeat or is it slow very upbeat? It's our it's like hip-hop meets Country mm-hmm. It's very he he looks like if Will Smith had a baby with George straight So he's that's what his like music is And it's he's got swag. He can he runs the he runs the stage pretty well I agree is it a country crowd or is it hip-hop you remember Aaron Lewis from Stained yes, so he's like full country now, and I love right so he you know that he originally was a country guy Then they went rock they pushed him towards rock because some they they felt that they he would be able to make a name for himself Easier going that direction. Mm-hmm, but country is his and I love his country actually so he's somebody who I Can't get into country. I just why I don't know why just my girlfriend listens to it She loves it, and I listen to it. It's you like Johnny Cash Johnny Cash, I do Johnny Cash. That's that's always the first go-to if I ever somebody always gives me that like I hate country like oh you yeah, you like Johnny Cash, and you can kind of progress in that direction most I as a kid Right as a really young kid. Were you guys exposed to it? Yeah, I was later on but as a young like a young kid I hate it when I was younger so did I it as a as a really young kid I hate it but like most things that I hated as a young kid It was because I hadn't really truly experienced it right I had maybe one or two experiences with it and turned it You know, I don't like it But it's like when I got into high school towards the end of high school like junior senior year And I worked on the ranch. It was playing all the time. So there was you know, everybody I worked with listening to country I'm driving a tractor of hay in my mouth It just seemed appropriate to be listening to country and not fucking Nelly right so a nice dip in your mouth Yeah, yeah all that good stuff. So the small phase makes me puke every time to chew was during that time also You tried to chew for like a short minute very short. What did you chew? What was it? Copenhagen? I tried all of it and I tried the little bags too like I did it Yeah, every time I tried I tried a handful of times and then when I realized that I was trying really hard that I was like This is a great this is a great topic because I feel like everybody that gets into those habits Tried to get that habit first. I don't think everybody anybody ever smoke their first cigarette Easy. Yeah, I don't think anybody smokes their first cigarette or does their first tune is like this is fucking great. Yeah No, everybody's like Doing it for about a week and then you'll like it I can't I can't speak on anybody else's experience But my experience with you know tobacco in that sense like as far as cigarettes chew all that every one of those things that I attempted and tried none of them were love at first sight. It was like a You know, I'll keep trying it because I want to be cool, you know, it was at that age It's like I'm trying doing it because I want to be cool and feel cool because back then it kind of was now It's totally different right like now the generation coming up. You're like, oh my god. Why would you do that? Disgusting yeah, but our generation. It was still we still were a part of the where it was cool Marble man was still the man. That's what I mean I feel like I don't think anybody ever does it and then loves it right away What did we just meet that was related to the Marble man? Marble man. Yeah, we I just met somebody who did we just I just met somebody. Yeah, just met something came in here I think I know you're talking about I don't remember you want to talk about an advertising FOPAA with that guy, huh when he got lung cancer. Well, that was horrible for them. Supposedly stick with the cartoon He was a fucking stud and I don't remember who was connected. Anyways, whatever But yeah, no, I went to Sam Hunt Sam Hunt was I also had Kendrick Lamar tickets Which I gave them away to know what kind of music that that's hip-hop. Okay. Yeah, and Kendrick Lamar. I've seen already I'm officially an old fucker. Yeah, he puts on a badass show and I know the audience is listening He's probably like giving me shit would give me shit if they found out that I passed on Kendrick Lamar and I went to Sam Hunt because it was I I'm too old to do back-to-back concerts I didn't get that at me. So well one night one night of staying out till fucking 11 midnight and Yeah party and like that's just I can't Sam Hunt was a country crowd. Yeah, yeah I heard that I heard is this is the this is the not the rumor, but the Stereotype of country crowds that it's the hottest girl Not even close brother the way beyond like the the best concert you've ever been to on unlike any no any other genre like Country smashes on it everybody Beautiful women everybody says that I'm out of everywhere everywhere Yeah, I think that ever I think that's a pre-req for hot chicks like you have to listen to country music I think that's just part of it like grow them there They do you know yeah, so shoreline was covered in beautiful women great music. It was a great crowd. Yeah all over the place Blanketed vagina beautiful glorious, but I didn't go to Kendrick Lamar we gave the tickets to Give the tickets to the boys here like sent Taylor Yeah, T-Doll did he take draw with him? He didn't actually we need to get them like necklaces You know so you can go to these concerts drew was really upset because he wanted to go But I he didn't stay past four o'clock on Friday for work, dude That was the deal was this the tickets were for the guy who puts in work the law haven't you know We haven't done yet. We haven't Like like haze them well well that was kind of a little haze right there Back 40 years if you are a you're a kid right now He's 20 years old if you're a 20 year old kid or 19 Rob and you're a die-hard Kendrick Lamar fan and you missed out on Tickets to the suite to watch Kendrick Lamar because you don't work very long. That's fucking dig it on him a little bit It's digging on him a little bit. I think he was a little upset about that. Yeah teaching work longer though Hey Justin, how's how's how's your chickens? You know is it all good now? Super super productive really very very the very next day They every single one of them laid eggs inside the coop. Oh my god very next morning And it's been that way consistently. You know what this is such a it was an example dude Let me tell you life. Let me tell you something. This was like a profound display of Like psychology, you know like it was like this just watching that it was like wow It's so primitive, but like you could you could make so many metaphors and parallels from that This is how humans crazy. Yeah, you know how many times I would get a team I'd manage a team and it was like I do my best, but there was that one person bad And you just know like I gotta get rid of him. He'll pull you team. Yeah, you can't rehab them You just have no you can't have to cut the snap his neck Snap his neck in front of everybody else and then everybody straightens right up I had I had one situation where they're like nice and loving and none of them squawking So I had one situation where that actually happened and I can't obviously name names But I told you the story when we were in LA when I got when I got Hillsdale when they re grand open They put me in there. Mm-hmm. I had this one sales guy in there who had been with the company Forever and he was one of those old dinosaurs that was just he was an old himself But he was a dinosaur in the sense that he had that old mentality didn't want to change was kind of Abrasive, you know, he did what I told him but kind of didn't at the same time Like he was above the law type of thing Well, man that fucker he used to party in the gym and one day I don't know what drug he took and he took a shirt off and was running through the gym and I was like you're fired. Thank you for this opportunity to get you the fuck out of my gym Yeah, it was so much better after that So much better. I don't know man. I feel like that I don't know it had a lot of impact on me mainly because like I you know, it's something that like it's Uncomfortable, right? It's like I I Talked about this about my process kind of leading up to that fact but like chicken murder. Yeah, but it's like you know, like I Look at that on a deeper level and like just just as like a visual example for me that I needed Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, I know it was powerful. Yeah Yeah, nobody said didn't even smoke You know, I went out I went I hiked on Sunday. We went up to Castle Rock. You've been up there I told you about Castle Rock. Oh, so you've been up. I think was I the one that refer recommended you guys We've been there now like three times. Oh really? Okay, so I love Castle Rock. What a great place Yeah, you would the only thing that it sucked for me is my allergies when as you're going through like the kind of it Was beautiful though. It was a great hike. Did you go did you boulder? Did you do the bouldering? No, I didn't do any that we just went to the we just went and we did the one two three like the third or fourth Challenging trail down like I think it was a yeah, I know you're talking about. Yeah, we did It felt like I think it said 1.3 to 2.5 hours. I'm like, that's cool. Yeah, how about the views? Oh, yeah, I know beautiful. I took some shots while I was up there. It's just gorgeous up there What a great hike, you know, I had some thought I always get what I like about the hikes too Is it really does it gives me these these random thoughts and I had this thought that I wanted to ask you guys when I had you guys together because I'm not a father and You know, we've been talking a lot lately and we have today We have Tom bill you coming in with the neuroscientists for Modious the company Modious and we're gonna talk to them about This great tech tool and everything and had me I've been thinking a lot about that since I've been reading this book You're resistible and I was talking to Andy about his book unplugged and having him over here And so this has been on my mind a lot and I was thinking, you know, and I have I have some friends that are You have kids that they actually Started their Instagram really really young and they already have like they're like, you know young and they already have like 3-4,000 followers And you know, so I was thinking about this like and I know and I know what's happening right now with building their currency Well, exactly. So this is where I wanted I wanted to say something to you guys and hear your thoughts on this and Before you need your can and just react. I want you to like really think about this that okay Do we believe and I do that the future of you know Hiring somebody that their social presence is going to be a major factor on whether they get a job or not because of how much Because if somebody has got five thousand or ten thousand people following them, obviously, they have the ability to influence There's somewhat of a somewhat of a leader whether it be good or bad doesn't matter They've got people that are following them, right would make them a leader in some in some respects and then you have these companies that are looking for These type of people and I think we're gonna see more and more of that in the future as a Pre-req to get a job at some places and I wonder if you know as a parent you think oh my god I don't want to do that right now, but are we are we helping them more? Are we hindering them? I look at it. Okay. I'll answer it this way. I guess um I look at it like Warren Buffett kind of treats his kids Like he's got like an endless supply of Capital for them in any pursuit they ever wanted to go into but he's very he's very restrictive and For a reason he wants them to have their own experience. He wants them to build their own disciplines build their own character Go through the same trials and tribulations You know that he got to where he got and I think that I think that there's you can make an argument that like it'll make their life easier by you know aggregating all these like Instagram followers or whatever the social platform is at the time and You know like you could look at it like currency like I'm I'm building up like a savings plan Or like this is like a 401k or something at that point, right? Right and uh, I I don't know. I guess I come from a different place with that in that I less less for me Like I know it's gonna be an inevitability because that's how people are gonna interact You know, they're already doing that like face-to-face like they're interacting through their phones Which is crazy, but it's it's it's just something that you know It's new and in we're all gonna have to kind of grow with it and see where it all goes But I want to I want to kind of pull them back pull the reins a bit with that Until like they can make You know their own Like it's you know later on when you deem like it's it's appropriate, right now When you when you say that is there do you struggle with that process? Like is there do you feel like you kind of go back and forth like fuck? Mm-hmm, you know like you're saying it right now But then I feel like did you ever do is that just a decision and you made that or is it like fuck? Yeah, no, I thought long You know along those lines because you know like me and Sal talked about this too about exposure even for kids and all Predators that you know this endless sea of like predators that are just there You know to women like how much information are we really wanting to put out there of our private lives? It's a there's a lot of so many different questions pop up for me with that and so many different feelings Mm-hmm, and I try to be as objective as possible and the things that one which is hard when you're the parent That's right. That's why I wanted a challenge and but not only that but not only we parents, but we're also Social media we have a large social media presence and we have a large podcast presence So it's more it's different for my kid than it would be for someone else like yeah, you know if you're if you're you know a Celebrity I'm not one of these big celebrities. Let's say your Tom Cruise like have putting your kid out there is very different Well, so and I want to read what would spark this so I have friends that would be considered that you know like NFL stars or you Know celebrity type people where they have huge followings. They've started their kids and their kids now have thousands of Followers and so that's what that's so I wonder first number one who the fuck is following these little kids How old are the kids? You know? Yeah, they're like they look to me like they're somewhere around nine to eleven years So who's following a nine-year-olds? Mm-hmm social media page. It's not a bunch of nine-year-olds Or maybe it is maybe not one thing that we're starting to realize now with the internet is that the dark the dark side of the internet is Massive it's huge. There are countless pages that are created Where there are like hubs for pedophiles and they'll do stuff like now You're gonna say that and I just and this is me just totally playing devil's advocate and challenging your thought process You know to help you be more objective because on this show you've multiple times You've said that we live in the safest time we've ever lived in and you know that to me when you say something That it sounds almost like a parent who's like there's no way I would let my kids stay outside and play past dark because it's so dangerous outside But is it really so so if you're first off? I don't I just like the thought of feeding that with my kid So whether nothing happens or not I don't like the thought of it So it just bothers me but the second thing is if you have some type of celebrity and your kid is out there That is a place that can that's where someone can target you and we've seen that happen in the past and the odds are Still small but even besides all that forget all that like I don't know man What kind of currency are they building with a following from being a nine-year-old like what are they doing? Because they're fans of their parents and it's just more of this like I'm doing everything for my kid You know type of attitude and mentality when you know kids need to kind of be kids a little bit sometimes and Posting their picture out on social media. That's just my that's some of my feelings behind it Like where do you what is that going to really build for them and like just well? Let's talk about that and I've thought about this This is why I wanted to bring it up is you know I imagine the the roles reversed and I have a dad or a mom who's Somewhat of a celebrity or they have a large following and they start me They start my Instagram page when I'm seven years old or whatever and now I'm in you know fourth and fifth grade and interacting with other kids And I have a 5,000 or a 5,000 following I would think that kid probably has a much easier time making friends And it's probably gonna start off pretty damn popular right away because and so you could argue creepy to think about I just see that is like No, I'd like I sees like popularity by following right so that's like a new metric that kids are gonna like Hold on let me finish here because you're already trying to challenge it I'm trying to tell you right now that this is this part that maybe you haven't thought all the way through is and you Holding them from it Let's say you're a parent who's like absolutely not till my kid is a certain age They're not gonna be able to do these type of things and because of that you've now pigeon hold your kid as the less He's not gonna be cool and he's not gonna have any friends because he doesn't even have a social presence at all and popularity will be Will be considered that will be a What's the word I'm looking for like this will be another standard Yeah, exactly another standard that people will use as if you're cool or not cool as a young kid growing up and as a father am I You know by telling them no they can't because of my own fears of you know Then predators looking at them are doing these things that I'm not allowing him to build a social following that could potentially Make him make his school life a little bit easier and popularity like so we're talking about a nine-year-old You gave well no one I mean it could be any age doesn't need to be whatever those are semantics Okay, whatever it's a kid. It's a kid. Yeah, exactly. Let me ask you guys this Let me ask you this Adam How well do celebrities that are kids celebrity kids not kids of celebrities but celebrity kids How well do they do in life typically later on well in the past? We have definitely had a lot of those types of kids that end up getting hooked on drugs and have all kinds of issues It's right so having but putting your kid out there Let's say you do a great fucking job now your kid gets a million followers on Instagram or did you do them a favor I? Think there's two sides of this that we need to look at and we need to be very careful with it And I think every look it's your if your parent you do it with your kids. You're not hurting them That's fine. That's totally up to you. I just think like I'm not just gonna look at the pause I'm look at the potential negatives well, of course if I'm a ten-year-old look I remember when I was 10 11 12 13 with my insecurities if I was out in social media with all these people watching me I don't have the maturity like it's a struggle now I'm a 38 year old man putting my shit out on social media having people watch me and comment on my stuff I couldn't imagine being a 13 year old with a troll being like your legs are small or You're ugly or you're stupid or unlike what you're saying or your page is dumb or whatever Like you're putting your kid into position Where we've never been in this situation before well, that's why it's fun to me That's why it's fun to speculate about because I don't think any of us in this room could be right or wrong I think that you bring up incredibly valid points about this that are definitely concerns But I was again I've always I'm always trying to challenge the way I think about things and I would I would a hundred percent agree with you Guys on the way you feel but then I've also think like I never thought of it from the other side like being a kid Growing up and my maybe my dad doesn't let me have have those things and now I'm at a school where I'm trying to make friends And be cool and nobody thinks I'm cool because I can't my dad doesn't let me have an Instagram and everybody else does and this kids Well, it hasn't happened yet But look I tell you what there's a lot of things that make you cool in school that good parents will tell you know Okay, it's just a lot of things like even when we were kids There were things that you know if you didn't do it you weren't cool like everybody But your parents made a smart decision by not letting you do those types of things well I think what are you thinking of like anything drugs buying you a shit ton of clothes? I think it's a bad. Hey, you know, you know like not not having all the best clothes all the time We're having an awesome car like you know buy your kid a BMW right away. Just cuz it makes so okay So yeah, the clothes would probably be a better a better parallel. I think that's fair like stylish clothes And the other thing I think about maybe like you you know being a parent who doesn't allow your kid to buy That's right. And there's a there's a big difference too. We need to look at why are these people following your kid? Is it because they're cute cuz that I think is stupid. I think that's horrible I think that's a horrible way to have a child identify what their value is your nine-year-old a musician Are they creating something? Are they creating a business? That's fine. I think that's awesome Is the answer though to to not allow them to do it or is that kind of teach them and educate them? Because eventually they're gonna be a part of it no matter what shit if my nine-year-old if my you Know kid is nine and my kid's like dad I got this idea for a business or I want to play the guitar and I want to put it on You know social media or whatever like that's different if it's like I'm cute I'm just gonna post pictures of myself and whatever and get all these followers like there's no doubt in my mind And I don't know I don't know the situation But if you're a child of a celebrity and you have 10,000 followers I'm sure a lot of the people following you is because of their fans of your parents And then they're following you for what like just to look at you to see you know Like do you do anything of value? You know when you look at celebrities you can see You there you can see the the celebrities that did a good job with their kids and the ones that did it And a lot of times the ones that did a bad job are the ones that put their kids out all the fucking time Look at look at the look at some of these dysfunction amongst some of these children then look at some of these kids like as much whether you like or hate Donald Trump His kids he did a fucking great job. Like they're very smart business people He did a good job raising them in that particular sense Arnold Schwarzenegger's got children that you don't hear a whole lot about as well They're more they tend to be more balanced and more functional Then you've got other parents where kids are they blast them all over the place And that's tough for a kid to grow up and I think most site most child psychologists will tell you like Putting your kid in modeling putting your kid in commercials TV movies. Yeah I also think that you're I think you're over generalizing a lot of things right now and I think that Comparing modeling and those type of stuff to social media which has become a much different norm And you have to understand that we were part of a generation that didn't have that and then now has it So we have a different kind of perspective than somebody who is born into that like at your kids age Where you know you're you could potentially be denying something that's just so normal to them It's not like you know what these examples that you're giving right now Those are more extreme examples when this is just simply dad I just want to be on Instagram and be able to yeah, it's a tough one man because normally is gonna have their own approach So at the end of the day, I think what makes us, you know more comfortable is you know Being able to restrict that as much as possible until they have more of an adult type of a brain Just to deal with that kind of attention and in normal normal is a shitty metric. Yeah, it's just a Shitty fucking metric. Yeah, I agree with that. It's normal. Everybody's doing it. We need to fuck You know shut up with that bullshit. I hate that shit when people say it because yeah But you know normal is eating garbage food is fucking sitting down on your ass all day long It's being a fuck, you know, these are things that were normal when we were kids But as a child's mind that I'm speaking from a child's perspective when I say something like that I agree with you that I have to deal with it like you have to deal with your dad that tells you I'm sorry that everybody's doing that shit But I'm gonna place certain parameters and if you have to be careful obviously with those types of parameters, but There's a lot of things that are normal that are just Terrible that kids do and you know, sure There's I'm gonna be in the minority and it sucks because it's unfortunate that the minority of parents are Parenting a certain way and that a majority are parenting another another way. It's just I'll tell you what man Go go look at the average kids School lunch and look at what they pull out of their their backpack. It's all it's like it's a it's a bag of gummy bears and a bag Yeah, and it's shit. It's like that's normal. No, no day No doubt. I mean now and now you're you're taking it a different direction and compared to different things I think it's I think just simply asking yourself like could I actually as much as I think I am Protecting or helping them could I and ask yourself this could I potentially be hurting him or her more? By not allowing them to start something that could like Justin said earlier It's like this investment that they could be you're making now I'm with you on that and I think the smart thing to do would be to sit down Honestly, I've already thought about this is to sit down with my kid My my son just turned 12 and to say hey, let's sit down and come up with some ideas I've already been talking them. So this is a conversation. I've already been having with my son Not because he's begged me to go on these platforms But I've actually I've explained to him what a sales funnel is on the internet I've explained to him how people make do business on the internet I've explained him how these pages on Instagram pages on Facebook and on YouTube make money In fact, we had a conversation in the car yesterday on the drive to the aquarium where he was he was saying he came up with an idea He's like, oh, you know much you can make money on on YouTube and he came up with this idea And he says you'll get millions of views and that's how you make money. And so we sat down. I said, okay I said and he understands advertising. That's how he thinks people make money on YouTube Advertising I said, yeah, it's one way but you need a ton of views, you know huge audience to make a lot of money with advertising I said the way you make money on on YouTube is if you sell your own product You don't need nearly as many so then we had a great conversation about that now that I would support a hundred percent You know I'm saying like yeah sit down and do that together Then that'd be a nice thing bonding, you know things right that makes me think too because I actually had a conversation with my oldest And he's only seven but you know, he loves just building Lego like he just creates now He's in a place where he just like can create something new every day and he actually asked me about like videoing that and like having Today, so if I just had him showing that, you know, and like that's totally something valid People could watch this timeline and it's feeding into his passion, right? I could totally see I can totally do that I could totally get behind, you know If I had a kid who had a passion for something that they really like like to me and that's what it's really like I think that's part of our jobs as parents, right? And I'm not one but if I was a parent I think is to find the things that your kids are Passion about and they love and then helping support that and maybe that's a way of doing that like you're bringing up right now I think that would be I bet it would draw lots of attention to I think lots of people would follow Because we've already seen some of these kids they get huge followings from unwrapping presence or building certain Lego things and you know Maybe it's a timeline video or you know, check out this cool thing that I made at a Legos or what whatever, you know But it's something he loves to do He's passionate about a way that he can build a whether it be a Reputation or a following whatever you want to fucking call it, you know It allows him to have access to something that maybe we would consider denying him or her because we're they're too young Or we don't think that's right when in reality We're in the we are in the middle of watching this huge Shift of that being very much so the norm to the point where you know a job like ours Here we are we just hired two employees on and I tell you what if we had somebody equally Talented as the two young men that we brought on staff, but one of they the other two applicants had 50,000 Instagram followers I think each of us would agree that we probably would hire the one with if they had if all things were equal, right? Their talents were equal what they could but they could bring the table, but because they had this large social presence and our job our business Definitely that would help it. I think it's and I think a lot of businesses would Benefit from large networks and followings of employees Imagine if you're a but like a bar owner and you had this with the thought that came to me is like man I'm hiring a total of 10 bartenders are gonna work at my bar Of course, they have to serve drinks. They need to have that skill set Hopefully they're attractive people charismatic all those things matter But man if if all eight bartenders that I hired all had 10,000 followers or above like what would that potentially do for my Actually already I was watching something. I don't know if it's a documentary, but They're they're talking about like old bands and how they used to travel You know and like book all these these gigs and like I think it was somewhere in Australia But like they're talking about like all this this guy does now for promotions Like he doesn't work with like arrow Smith and you know all these like big-name bands anymore He completely just focuses on these people that bring a million I have a million following or you know couple hundred thousand following because then it's like insanely predictable People show up every single time when these internet celebrities come to town and it's like made him Like 10 X to his business. Oh, wow. Yeah fascinating, which is crazy, but it makes perfect sense Also, I wonder how much it's gonna change. You know, I mean like as that becomes the way Celebrities are created because it's starting to become like that, right? It's starting to become like pretty soon a Hollywood and music and all that stuff is gonna be Celebrities aren't gonna come from there. It's gonna be all through these type of mediums. I wonder if that's gonna make it more Difficult to kind of build a brand like that. Oh, yeah to shine it when everybody This is what brings me to the South like, you know And I think the longer that we hold our kids back from them being able to do that the further behind They're going to be because I think it's gonna be very competitive. I think that and think of that from a choppers I think that literally you're gonna look at eight bartenders, but I'm looking at 20 bartenders I only need eight all of them are good But these ones have this big of a presence like they're getting hired, you know, it's a no-brainer It's a no-brainer that I'm going to hire them because of that and that obviously that's just one example I'm using I think that it applies to many Jobs I guess a lot of it just depends on on what you're doing with that, you know, I mean Well, how you built your page like if it's just if there's something You know something behind it besides just you know the way you look unless you get into a field related to that but I could imagine like imagine a Girl who's got a Instagram page with a hundred thousand followers and it's all because she's showing off her body And then she's like I want to become a lawyer or I want to become a doctor like that might be do the opposite I don't know my it might it might do the exact opposite And this is this is part of the time I think as a parent I think there's a type of conversations that you're you're helping your your young kid, you know I'm trying to steer him right exactly Instead of like holding it away from him not letting him expose exposing him early But then teaching him early on that, you know, so you'd be surprised you hold them back as much as you want My kids teach me shit. I know they know more than I do about about uploading videos and do already and I don't even have their Own channels, but I think it would be a good thing. I'm like I said, I've already thought about doing this I just I'm not pushing it But I'd like to work with my kid and have them create something Even if he doesn't if it doesn't work, which the odds of course are probably won't but the amount of you know Learning you get from that process imagine starting your own business at that age Through these, you know, you're really cool Well, I mean just got my wheels spinning already just from what Justin said Imagine if like your boy is really good at this and like a lot of people start following like that little yeah I was thinking about that. I was like, hmm. That's not a bad idea Right and opens the door for him to potentially I mean you could teach him how to make money before the kids even like 16 years old he can work with Lego Right, right and as a dad who has a lot of pool in in the this arena Yeah, I mean you may be able to provide an opportunity for him and teach him at the same time Right, you could give him a lesson in business. He wants it. Yeah, right, right, right, so anyways I was just one of that was one of my hiking high thoughts that I had that I thought I'd share Share with you guys and see what you thought sparked an interesting conversation not that at all that I disagree with you I just thought that it would be I knew it was challenging for me to think about it I couldn't imagine how challenging it has to be for fathers like you guys to I don't think a lot of people have Even thought about this kind of stuff yet, right? And that's why I wanted to bring it up because I bet you there's a ton of parents that are just like no or yes about it And they don't really think all the way through I think all the I think a lot majority of parents You get a lot of the nose and then a lot of parents are just that don't care. Yeah, I don't even think it's a yes Yeah, they just don't care. They just let their cues do it right and I and I'm I think you know Which is bad no matter what right? I mean you leave your kids and just be like you don't give a shit Doesn't matter what they do. It's probably not a good thing. You know, we forgot to mention was Don't we have like an email coming out or something people need to register for Doug? What do we got going on? Yeah, this Thursday. We're having a flash sale. Oh Surprise it's gonna be a surprise no like Sal flashing in front of the red lights, right? So if you want to get notified about the flash sale, you need to sign up for the 30 days of coaching Okay, so they haven't already done that then do that So go to mine pump media comm and just sign up for it exactly and then we're gonna send out an email Exactly for a one-day flash and some people that have been listening for a long time I've just had some of the other news have this so the 30 day it's free coaching so it's 30 days of free coaching So it's not like it's some gimmick where we're trying to sell you something or whatever. It's it's completely free sign up for it I think everybody should have access to it And then if you're on that lit you're automatically on our mailing list and then then Doug will send that out next week Which is cool. We also need to Mention to our sponsors organified just sent their cool shipment a ton of boxes Yeah, we got all kinds of good stuff which Doug brought up something this weekend. I think would be a brilliant idea I know we haven't completely solidified exactly what we're going to do But maybe now that we have a really solid good sponsor like organified that we do some sort of a giveaway with them Like we have done with the t-shirts. I think that would be a yeah a brilliant idea We're on the fence to try it out to be a good way Why don't we do like a post or something when they do some kind of yeah I think we should discuss exactly like how we how we laid out But Doug brought that up this weekend and I thought that's that would be fucking really cool We've already done something for the reviews on iTunes I think doing some sort of a giveaway with like you're saying Instagram or something like that But we'll figure that all out. We'll put it together But if you guys haven't tried out the organified and I can't wait We just got the red juice in which I haven't tried yet. I've been on the using the green juice Making my it's been a tradition now every weekend. We're starting to make those green. Yes, the the mint chip Pancakes, I love it because I get to I get the protein inside of it Plus I get the the and I'll be the first one to admit that on Sunday morning breakfast Not a lot of greens are typically in my morning breakfast And I also get a late start like at noon by time of 11 a noon You just eat the pancakes just like that by themselves Pancakes and I have a little bit of syrup on them and then I have my Am I bacon wonder how they would taste if you put butter in them and roll them up eat them like that Oh, it would be they would be they would be bomb Although those ones I think the the magic is in the mint flavor with the dark dark chocolate chips So it has that if you did them by we did them by themselves and they were all right by themselves I was like yeah, they have this, you know Pancakes aren't supposed to have this minty flavor to them So it is different if you're gonna have pancakes and you want traditional pancakes It's different, but if you put the chocolate chips you get these like mint this mint chocolate chip flavor when you're having pancakes to me That's that's killer Doug bring on the bird This cause brought to you by organified for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organified fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge Try organified totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organified calm That's a large e and I fi dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout Our first question is from Peyton cannon With different styles of CNS training such as isometrics and plows be good for trigger sessions. Hell. Yeah, absolutely So trigger sessions just be careful not to yeah, we're gonna we'll get into that so yeah, especially with plyo So with a lot of so trigger sessions for people that don't know a trigger session are These kind of mini I hate to call them workouts because they're not meant to be workouts but mini sessions that you do on your off days and The goal of the trigger session is to maintain The muscle building signal from the previous day, which was set with the heavy workout Typically, they're about eight minutes long The goal is to get a little bit of a pump in the muscle a little bit of a burn and you do them frequently throughout the day So you're supposed to do about three of them throughout the day and they're extremely Extremely effective. In fact, I had not done trigger sessions consistently for a long time I was doing other types of frequency builders went back to trigger sessions recently I always blows me away. It always blows me away by how much how well my body responds Just more muscle more body fat loss all that stuff Now trigger sessions are part of a category That goes into all of our program that we called frequency builders. Okay, so Trigger sessions are found in maps anabolic but like in maps aesthetic. We have focus sessions Which are similar but different in maps performance. We have A mobility sessions and in maps anywhere We have what are called amp sessions and what they are is they are designed to give you more frequency to your workouts and the goal but the goal with that with the frequencies also to Minimize damage to muscle. Okay, because you're adding these to your already Kind of almost complete intense routine So if you're doing like three days a week of full body Well, now you have, you know another three three or four days a week that you can add frequency But because you've already had three hard full body workouts You don't want to necessarily tear muscle down. You just want to throw in some frequency So that's how I would treat them if you did isometrics and plios on those days in between Don't do them super intense, but just train the sequence train the recruitment pattern I was definitely going to reiterate that because you know You definitely want it for the for that fact you want it for the frequency of Stimulating your body to produce those types of movements or that type of response from your central nervous system But you should be if like let's for instance with with plyometrics If you know if your goal is to get really powerful and explosive in those jumping type movements You know that should make its way in high intensity, you know within your workout the ones in between You know, we want to keep that Reasonably light so that that's more if you're using it for like the frequency of it because you Going from, you know heavy heavy max lifting days Not maximum lifting, but you know what I mean like foundational days like three times a week and then in between if you're doing super Explosive, you know high intensity plyometrics, you know, we're gonna get some diminishing return. How do you feel about Justin since this is kind of your area What about instead of doing plios like you normally would where you're just trying to explode? What if on the trigger session days you're just trying to perfect your I guess your technique in your and your minimal wraps exactly? So you obviously want to say practice. Yeah, it's Get fast with it because really what you're trying to do is get more acceleration So your ground forces play into effect, right? You have to be able to get that coiled response and then get as much acceleration as possible but like you're you're doing it in such a way where I Mean, there's not a whole lot of reps you're doing in a row You're really perfecting the signal of that and honing in on it. So that's like your focus Isometrics would be perfect. Yeah, for sure. I feel like the the the answer is is obviously yes But I think that how I would decide this would be based off my goal, right? So, you know I think Using triggers with isometric Okay, I'll see I'll show you how I would use like isometric plio and then our traditional way that we use it if I am more Aesthetic based and I am areas that I'm trying to develop on my body like I want better biceps or better shoulders I'm sticking more towards the traditional way that we have incorporated trigger sessions where I'm just Standard bicep and shoulder type movements to get that added frequency and added pump and more recovery all the benefits We talk about if I am trying to correct something like a bad Recruitment pattern that I have or for say for example for me the retraction depression of my shoulders I think I would incorporate I would and I'm really trying to work on an imbalance Maybe that I have and address some issues. I would probably use the trigger sessions for isometrics I would do a lot of isometric stuff and be treating it kind of like our fortification sessions that we have Inside of prime so and then lastly if I was like an athlete who is or even if there wasn't like a Like a professional athlete, but I play basketball on the weekends, right? I'm playing sports still and I want to improve upon my explosiveness and some of the stuff Justin was just talking about I think I'm using my triggers plios in my trigger So to me my goal that I that I'm trying to achieve is what what would dictate How I'm using these triggers and I think absolutely the answer is yes You can use all those things, but I also think that I would prioritize Them around whatever my priority is like yeah out of those for sure Like you want to be like you wanted to benefit whatever goal you have going into it and I think from you know I just thinking of it to like explaining like isometrics How I'd use that in more of a performance Related goal like it I want to I want to make sure that I'm going to use this more to teach my body to get super super comfortable in In in depth or arranges a motion that I know I'm going to express on the field or so now I want to solidify my force stabilization So if I if I get like lateral forces I will I really want to solidify the fact that I'm stable and so that's that's one way I'll use it to for from a sports perspective and then the other like so like I mentioned depth or like in my squat You know I really want hone in on the weakest part of my lifts and then you know get that signal super strong Going in I wonder if this person isn't isn't is an athlete. Did you happen to look at there? Okay isometrics by the way one of the most Overlooked Underrated types of training period like I love that we talk about especially Justin And of course with the axon stick because it's so underrated. Yeah that in frequency I think are two big things that I Incorporate now in my 30s that I never really did in my early 20s Just because lack of information and knowledge in the in the area and I didn't realize what a difference You know who benefits, you know, I'm 15 degrees of strength from the joint. So I had an either direction So huge, you know, besides performance because you're seeing So so basically 10 of it you can increase the the joint mobility by 10 to 15 degrees are you saying 10 to 15 percent strength? Yeah, yeah carries over 10 to wow. That's a big difference Yeah, so wherever whatever isometric position you're you're strengthening you actually gain strength in a broader range So isometrics is today being used more by I think athletes you're starting to see But you know who benefits a lot from isometrics that don't use and they don't use them at all bodybuilders Oh, yeah bodybuilders could have they do and they're posing they posing but not like like the way you should use Isometrics right isometrics are phenomenal for bodybuilders primarily because bodybuilders almost never in their training Except for maybe the squeeze do they ever stop a position in in or a rep? You don't like for example when you see a bodybuilder do Shoulder press it's always kind of this pumping motion and I know why because they want the pump They want the burn But you give them some heavy dumbbells have them lock out and hold with tension for time And watch what happens to the development of their delts I mean it's a it's a training tool that doesn't cause a lot of muscle damage So the good thing about that is you could just throw it in you can throw in some isometrics To your routine and watch what happens in the old timers used to do them all the time I mean the old bodybuilders of you know back in the day used to talk about You know holding the squeeze for long periods of time. That was primarily what they how they use them But even before that Isometrics was it was a staple And I can't think of there's very few things I can think of that you could just add to routine That are going to give you like pretty traumatic results isometrics is one of them So I just want to make sure I say that because it's one of those, uh, you know overlook things. Definitely quick commercial break You guys we keep getting asked all the time. How can I support the mine pump family? 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So one of the easiest things that can tell you To become successful working the floor is Learn how to use the front desk the easiest place in the world on the floor and the front desk is part of the floor Uh at getting clients is the front desk because people walk in You check them in instant connection instant ability to be able to talk to them ask them questions The second thing I should I could say to you is learn how to use your intercom The over the loudspeakers if your gym allows you to and if you do a good job They'll want you to use the intercom on a regular basis Because a very very quick easy well done announcement, you know attention members and guests We have five free personal training sessions available at the front desk going on a first come first serve basis Come book them up here with Justin Uh, you know before they're gone and within 20 minutes you'll have five assessments effective. Yeah Super easy those two things alone super easy. They don't require you to be Like, you know crafty with how you approach people, you know, we'll talk about that too But that requires more skill like I would just I'd have trainers just sit at the front desk and scan people And I tell them when you scan people ask them what they're working on that day You know like hey, what are you working on today? Oh, I'm going to do a little legs. Oh awesome What the exercise? Oh, let me show you this new exercise and just walk back with them and Take them through a couple exercises and you've got your your intro right there Very very easy I think a lot of people struggle with this because of the pressure of trying to make the sale You know as they're like, okay, I got to go talk to people on the floor And I've got to make the sale So there's this pressure in the back of your mind that like the whole purpose of why you're talking to this person Is to eventually sell them on personal training and You know, I actually and it wasn't until I think after Justin So I don't think Justin ever experienced with me teaching my trainers this But this was something I started to put together later on as I'd realized how many trainers struggle with this Uh, because they put so much pressure on themselves They're already not very charismatic and outgoing and then on top of that their boss is telling them Walk the floor and go pull people off the floor and sell them training and it was just like, uh, it was so daunting And because I'm a numbers guy and I'm I would track all the stats on how many people I would need to talk to Before I could book x amount appointments that would turn into x amount of dollars I would teach this process to somebody. So I would give a simple goal like this. I I'd have a trainer And it's okay. Get it go get a get yourself one of those little journals that you get from CVS for You know, two dollars or whatever And you're going to meet five people today And I don't want you to try and sell them anything I don't want you all I want you to do is to to meet them say hi introduce yourself and find out Something about them anything whether it be the surgery. They just recently did how many children they have their wife Thing their job whatever it is Your goal is just to talk to them and actually find out one thing about them No pressure to sail don't book them an appointment. None of that stuff that happens it happens But your goal right now is just to meet people But then I would tell them as soon as you meet that person and you and you learn something about them Their name and something about them. I want you to walk back to back over to where my office was Right in the journal. Okay. I just met Justin He has two boys ages this and this and then we'll go back on the floor And so you would do that and you would gather that and so I would make these trainers Yeah, and the reason why I'd make them write it down was because I knew that the if they didn't They would probably forget some of this information plus i'm setting them up for later on So once they would do this they would start to build this list after a couple weeks of doing this They'd have a list of you know 30 50 some of them 100 depending on how active you are of people with all these names and something To remind you about them and then the next time you saw them come in You'd go over reference your journal Justin two boys and then your goal would be able to go over their walk-up say hi And mention one of those mention that fact that you learned about that person what that does for you That person will be blown away that you remembered their name and you actually remembered something about them Now some people are gifted and have a natural skill of doing this Sal would be an example of somebody has this this incredible memory and talent and charisma to do this Without it But what I learned as I was managing all these trainers was Sal is one in a hundred people that I get to if that actually point we're like one in a million There's very few people that have his talent and so I a big head now I had to learn I had to learn to to teach this skill set to people that did not have this natural charisma and ability And I had a lot of success with what i'm telling you right now So They would go in and they would do that It is much easier to ask for money from somebody who you've built in a relationship with before And when you and I used to love this this quote I used to keep on my desk Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care So you may have all this found knowledge and fitness and nutrition and all this great stuff to give to them to then turn around And get them to buy from you But if you first show them how much you care Asking for that money or being able to provide that service for them becomes very easy for you to do But you've got to put the work in and so Making this list and then following up on them the next time they come in More often than not that second time you have that conversation with them It's very easy to book them for a free appointment with you if you you still have a challenge That's okay Then you you work that lead and you you talk to them a third time in a fourth time But if you start if you're actually Strategic about it and you actually take the time to write this stuff down You'll solidify it in your brain. So you remember better You'll have something to reference because I guarantee you you're gonna see faces that you fuck. I forgot his name I forgot his kid's name You'll forget those things because how many people you talk to inside a gym and if you start to do that Uh, it'll make your job a lot easier quick quick question because something's dawning on my me right now When um when when did you leave 24 when you were managing the big gyms? Uh, what year? Yeah, uh, see hero, it's back up 2000 And I want to say 11 or 12 some around there. So you know what's dawning on me right now? I haven't man. I haven't managed a gym a big box gym in a long time and The people that were working out with headphones on almost impossible very difficult to approach them. Is that increased? It's got had stood right. I'm sure I don't think anybody listens to nobody listening to the overhead Music anymore. Is it like that now? It is isn't it? I don't know if it's when you go to golds or a lot of people In their shit. Yeah, but I don't know if that's any different than what it was before If I feel like they they're more obvious because it's very popular It's popular DJ. Yeah, right? But I mean fuck the reason why Walkman and diss men have been around for a long time and people have been listening to music Why they work out for I just you know why that what I'm asking is because now it's on your phone Discmen like trying to work out with that piece I remember if we changed the music in the gym and people don't like it we'd get people would be pissed I don't think a riot. Do people even care? Yeah, they do. That still exists. Yeah. Yeah, that still exists And there's still people that don't wear headphone. I mean there's timey people. I don't know Is it walk up to him in the head? It's probably it's probably increased It's probably increased and does make that uh challenging. I think for sure which again I think would make it even more important for you to do something like this because Nobody wants to be interrupted when their headphones are in their ear and then also try to be sold something I think I think what you guys both said is on point and I think okay So this reminds me of like when didn't we have to use like wear like a yellow shirt at one point? Okay So, uh, yeah adam had us wearing. Whoa, don't say adam. Those are company He was brought down from you. I don't know what they did so let me tell you what they did because I remember before and after So the trainers used to have what were called fit hours that everybody had to work style You remember this where a trainer was allotted a certain amount of time every week where he would Work the floor or do fit appointments free appointments where people would come in and they would test drive a trainer Well You would have this four-hour block What they wanted was if you didn't have a client if you didn't go and book somebody in with you And you had a free hour You would put on this yellow jersey and work the floor and it said i'm a trainer need help Which they made it easier in a sense for like these people that had a hard time Um, you know, like yeah, yeah, they basically gave them a baby shirt. Yeah Only lasted about a year. I'll tell you what though if I was knowing me if someone came up to me It asked me for help. Oh, I took advantage and I was like all day And that's the thing like I you know, this is coming for me. This has been more of a challenge You know than the both of you, but you know at a certain point I am a I'm very much of an Observer and so just being around people that have this sort of uh rapport with People I I would constantly watch the way that people would interact, you know with other trainers and Management and all that and so I would actually naturally just I just picked up a lot of those those things that you guys mentioned Like I I figured out that like, okay I'm just going to talk to them about whatever's on the tv or you know, whatever like and it'll naturally I'll just remember the conversation I had and then I would bring up Conversation related to that that subject and I would talk to them again about it But then I evolved and learned to kind of hang out around the front desk and you know, instead of just sitting there I looked and saw whoever's name it was and I would actually take their card Scan them in like repeat their name back to them and then before they left and made sure and said their name as they're leaving So that way we still maintain that connection Going forward, but you know It's a lot of those things you just have to like literally like you have to immerse yourself in it and go 100% Even if it's like uncomfortable for you You need reps and it starts with the you know, the lowest barrier to entry So however you you can figure that out To start, you know to break that ice that you have in front of you That's where you need to focus. I'm telling you the front desk is this guy is like gold I cannot believe easy. I can't believe how many people don't realize that that was like People used to fight in my gyms over the front desk and I'd schedule them like it's so I lived there, man. That's that's where you park you park yourself at the front desk you check people and you say hi What's up, John? What's up? Hey, what are you working on today? I'm hitting this And you make friends with all the sales counselors and everybody That way they feed you if you're a trainer that wants to grow your business Like you need to live around the front desk and say hi to everybody that walks in ask them what they're working on Don't try and sell them shit. By the way, you know, like what adam says about the pressure about trying to sell something like Your goal if you do have a goal, which sometimes you don't sometimes your goal is just to say hi to people and talk to people Which is good If your goal is anything to get anything it's to schedule an Assessment or a free session not to sell training the odds of selling training off the floor are very very Very very low and only the best People tend to do that and what I mean by the best is not that you're the best sales person But there needs to there's a certain type of sensitivity that you have With communication to know whether or not Because you nobody wants to be bothered while they're working out to buy something So you got to kind of know what you're doing there. So don't even worry about that Just book assessments talk to people. But yeah that front desk man park your ass up there I mean that's money I know I know some people are not going to like this But I mean I also believe in complete transparency in our show And so one of the things that I used to do and I was notorious for this would I would actually hang out at the front desk at certain gyms because you could actually see the parking lot And other times I would hang out in the parking lot And if I saw somebody pull up in a seven series you knew your whales were yeah Yeah, that's right If I saw someone pulling up in a hundred thousand dollar whip the likelihood of them investing in you know A few thousand dollars in personal training me is probably more likely Than the guy now that's not to say that I haven't sold plenty of training to somebody who drove up at some beater But if you want to increase your odds on money not being a major an objection to which let's be honest The number one objection you will hear in sales will always be money And so you're less likely to hear a oh, I can't afford Three or five hundred dollars with the personal training when the guy or girl pulls up in a You know a hundred thousand dollar whip So I would actually see that person come in then I'd be at the front desk And I'd scan them in so I'd see their name say hi to them then and then I'd make sure to go out to the floor And say hi to them again on the floor and so I used to do stuff like that all the time Nice to see you stewart smith the third What are you gonna be training today? How was your pull in a family crest that you have a embroider? Oh, that's great Next question is from connie sue Do you have any experience with clients with eating disorders? This is all trainer day today, dude Yeah, what kind of advice you have? Uh Yeah, I mean most people I think you'll work with as a trainer if you're a really good trainer. You understand nutrition really well Most people have some type of eating. Yeah, some type of eating dysfunction. I don't want to say disorder because clinical disorder would be like bulimia anorexia Uh or some type of ocd, but uh most people have some type of eating dysfunction that you're gonna have to work around Now I have worked with real Eating disorders The I've had I've worked with a few of them Most of them all of them but one actually we're working with a therapist in conjunction with me This is a hard one by the way very hard one of them. I trained I was uh very very I was on to her like I knew She had an eating disorder, but you can't just come out and say you have any super delicate Yeah, and so I would I would you know sprinkle in some conversations some questions I talk a lot about myself People are much more apt to open up to you when they feel when you're open with them So I would talk about my own issues with food, uh, you know I talk about how I always thought I was skinny and I would force feed myself and I would You know set my alarm to wake up in the middle of night and to take a protein shake or whatever and how I had You know how I and I told her I said, you know, I had a needing disorder I just didn't realize it. I said but I know how difficult it can be for people to even acknowledge that they have that issue And it was incredible It took me this long so you got to stop right there because that is something that I used to teach that I think is a lost art and not a lot of people understand the importance of what you just did right there It's So and doctors good doctors do this really well right you come in you get this You find out you've got something or you have something that sounds so bad because you've never heard it And a really good doctor does a good job of letting you feel like it's very normal and common and don't worry This is how we handle it. This is how we take care of it The same thing goes for as a trainer who is Getting this new client in that has the eating disorder or is struggling with obesity or Has something that's a challenge the last thing you want them to feel is make them feel like They're all alone in that and that it's very uncommon or oh my god So by you sharing your own You know eating disorders or of food poor food relationships Makes them at ease and like so I would tell trainers that when clients give you information like that or you Assume they have something like that make them feel like lots almost everybody struggles with this in one way or another almost everybody deals with some sort of a food that way it helps them be at ease a little bit and more Likely to share more information with you and more likely to work towards getting better at it And I think that's a such a good point with this particular client that I suspected had Either anorexia or bulimia or one of those two because she was just just you can tell as a trainer You can start to see in the gym who has these extreme issues because there's The obvious physical symptoms There's other symptoms that you know you can look out for and we were training and Her strength wasn't very good and we stood up from an exercise and she got really dizzy And so we sat down and I said What have you eaten today? And she told me you know, oh, I ate this and that said I said okay I said I want you to know That you could always be totally totally honest with me with what you're doing It'll only help me train you better if you can be honest with me with everything With what you're eating or what you're not eating Then I can be a much more effective personal trainer because I know you have Particular goals and she's and then she started kind of opening up opening up with her nutrition And the thing really with with her was I had to slowly Slowly get her to Dive voles the information. I did not say you have an eating disorder did not say oh, that's called bulimia and anorexia or whatever It was very little and then I slowly talked her into okay eat You know buy yourself these small packets of almonds make sure you eat that before you work out That'll prevent you from getting dizzy And that's a good thing because then we can train a certain way and you could build more muscle and you know You could maintain your leaniness better and little by little I talked her to that point to where I finally was able to Uh, you have more frank discussions with her and she did go and see a therapist But it was a long process But most the people you're going to work with uh, if you're a really good trainer You're going to find that everybody has some kind of eating dysfunction You'll know right away when you tell your client you can't eat this anymore Or you know what let's stay away from this food and all of a sudden they freak out Yeah, what do you mean? I can't how long do I have to do that for? Yeah, I mean it's just very few people are going to just come forward and tell you they have a disorder an issue with food like this It's real similar to talking to an alcoholic or someone addicted to drugs Rarely ever have you ever met somebody who was Addicted to something like that and they go like yeah, I'm totally addicted to drugs I have a problem with that. I know that like very few people admit it And that's the first step right of getting through this process is Getting is admitting it So I think your goal as a trainer is to make them feel comfortable enough to share that they have an issue You know, you're going to probably know Before they share it with you your goal still even when you know is not to call them out That's the worst thing you could do because then they're going to put them in denial And then you're probably going to be fighting an uphill battle They're not even going to know most of the time that they're not going to realize that you know Like these habits are Unhealthy for them. It's just like eye opening and and so there's resistance to that because of the information that they've You know align themselves with like since they're a kid, right? Like all this nutrition information if you if you add something that you know contrasts that at all It's like what like it's like it's a really hard pill to swallow sometimes So I I used to like share stories of other clients as if to that person But I'm really talking to them. Sure. So for example, like let's say we're talking to somebody who has anorexia And I know she's battling with this, but she hasn't fully admitted to me I'm like talking to her like, yeah, I know I get lots of clients that have this In fact, I had this lady who struggled with this and I'm like sharing the patterns and the things that I know that she has That she's that she's dealing with so I'm really talk. I'm really talking To her about her but I'm acting as if I'm talking about like Lots of these clients that I've trained before or this particular person I've had examples that they can at least kind of identify with on some level and that's what I'm deflects off of them Right. I'm trying to you know, like that old, uh, you know, hey, I have a question for a friend of mine You know, like, yeah, you know, I have a friend of mine that's really interested in this It's like that type of deal, right? They'd know what it wants to admit It's them. So it's kind of like you advising them yet and that kind of helps ease them into that Uh, you know starting to share with you and ask more questions Because they feel that their their issue or what they're struggling with they're not alone and lots of people deal with it Yeah, and I'll say this, uh, I want to be very clear If you're if we're talking about a diagnosable clinical eating disorder And you identify it your your goal should be obviously you're open with them You're talking with them But see if you can get them to talk to a professional that deals with that because you as a personal trainer are not Trained in this area and now that I'm thinking about it. Many of the personal trainers themselves may have You know eating eating dysfunctions and uh They might not be the best people to talk to or to talk with these, you know These clients although I believe the person who's asking this question is already a better trainer just for Already wanting to know advice on how to handle it. So Good point Quick commercial break. Hey people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do You can go to www.brain.fm forward slash mind pump and get 20 off brain fm for meditation or focus You can also go to audible trial.com forward slash mind pump and get a 30 day trial plus one free audio book Lastly, you can go to get nature blend.com forward slash mind pump and you will get a discount on ben greenfield's cbd product Next up is garret morales Justin, how does being a mind pump compare to being in a band? awesome question So rad Yeah, dude, there's so many comparisons. Where do I begin? Yeah, there's like a peril There's like at what point everybody has like their own sort of Vibe they're bringing in, you know to the creativity process Clash of egos. Oh my god. Like yes, somebody always has a huge one and then like somebody else kind of comes in like no Man, I wrote that song like oh, shit You're right, you know like half the time it's it's really funny because I know like It it resembles a lot of that sort of like team that group flow kind of dynamic and and something that we really have in it's It's funny because it it's total chemistry thing like some people can work out some people can't work out like Sometimes I've I've tried to and I've jammed with certain people and it just sounds like dog shit And like somebody doesn't have the right rhythm, you know, somebody's like contributing like this weird like Scale and you're like, why would you throw that in there? That's fucking lame, bro, you know And like, you know the drummer he's like doing his own little groovy thing and you're just like no, dude pick it up you know So it's just like it's just this interesting like kind of blend of of chemistry that uh, sometimes you just you just hit You know the group hits and and it's like it's fucking gold and And you know, you make like killer music, but like it's so rare and I feel like you know like You know not to be like, you know, we're so awesome But we are you know this this chemistry thing, you know, like it's rare to get that So it's a pretty cool thing to think about because I I tried so hard to make that happen with the band You know, like we're just like dude, you know, maybe we just gotta work harder We just gotta get her big break, you know, that's a good question. Did you feel like um, you know That whole process of trying to Build a big band that was you had to work really hard at it where this felt like there was no working towards it Was just could you yes distinguish the difference like that's I mean nailed it like we were we The actual music we were making was interesting I was like into it at the time like I was like, wow, this is sounds cool And it was like really fun and we were having a whole lot of fun But there was no business to it and there was no Management to it and it was all an afterthought and like I was the only one that even had a job You know and so I'm like buying all the equipment and the trailer and all this shit and trying to book us gigs And that was just like a one-sided thing. It was like I just got burned out and like, you know once Once I kind of was like, dude, this is fun at all But like I'm burnt like I gotta get back to reality where I'm making money and you know like treating Like I got a degree for a reason It's fun guys, but you know, what are those guys up to now? Actually, um I stay connected to them loosely Are they all did they all go off and do big things or do some of them still chasing the I want to be in a Band one day. Uh, one of them still is and he was I mean, he was definitely one of the more talented ones for sure. He was in bands before us So we kind of absorbed him. He was our lead singer guy for a while. Andrew He's he's doing stuff with a country music Singer and like this guy's getting popularity. So I hope, you know, it takes off for him. That'd be awesome Oh, wow. Yeah, but like he totally has shifted genres a bunch of times So we were like heavy heavy metal stuff, you know And so he went from from before that with like this this more like like kind of like Popular rock and then he got into like metal with us and then now it's like, you know country So it's interesting and he writes a lot of stuff on acoustic and it's really good But um, yeah, I think he still has this You know this this dream. I think he's the only one left that's that's really like, you know, like, ah music's my thing You know, like it's so tough to to break through like I totally respect musicians that soldier on, you know, as they get That's a long time dude, dude because it was a long time ago. Don't make money. You know, it's not it's not for people I want to make money You know, this really isn't it's not there It makes me think like, you know, because chemistry is so important for a band because you're so creative Um and so you need to have strong chemistry, but there's a there's a potential downside of having really strong chemistry Reminds me of like relationships like Guy and a girl are like super fire passionate And that passion can go in either direction. It still burns out though. Yeah, or it burns out. Yeah, or it splits Yeah, so it's like you got to be careful. You have tons of chemistry You know, there's times when you need to be settle and you know, kind of keep things cool Because it can't always be off. I don't know. I'm just Well, yeah, it wasn't balanced. Yeah, which I feel like this is more balanced, you know, the the efforts are way more balanced whereas it was like just I mean, we had like Times where I was like, wow, you know, we're just like in the zone, but um That was hard to recreate all the time It still took work to recreate that whereas like this is just so much more natural speed now because you've experienced that Do you feel like we've already kind of Passed the the time is, you know, is it going to be like for example? We've been together now for even though we've only been on air for like two and a half years We've really been together about three or so right that we were all kind of talking and working together Do you feel like We've now been together doing the same thing for long enough that okay We've kind of lasted the the time that okay, we're going to work together versus like maybe a band you think at first Like oh man right away you guys jam well, but then you question then you find out six months later Like this motherfucker starting to get on my nerves. Like does that is that there's sort of approving grounds to that right? Right. Like yeah, like you only go so long with with a certain group of guys where you just realize like I don't know man. I don't know if this has any weight to it. You know what I mean and um, yeah, that's interesting to think about because it's like when When when we were in it like like everybody just like oh my god we just need to get in front of people and like you're just so like, you know optimistic and You know, you think everything's just gonna happen and um, that's like our cell. Yeah, yeah No, which I love it because I feed off of that right But I feel like like with this it's it's more like The comparison like you've you've sort of mastered Your instrument right and so of you sal and so of I right And so we've gotten to a point where we've tried shitty bands. We've gotten through the the the circuits You know what I mean? Like we we know all like the um, you know the ins and outs of of all the directions we could go all that kind of stuff We got a lot of wisdom, right? We've been we've been on the road and uh, you know, nobody knows who we are But uh, then all of a sudden, you know, you just hang out and we've all had like a similar story And it's like then it's the fucking Beatles. Well, it'll be It'll be interesting because I know that we have Brianna right now who is Scheduling our roadie and we plan on doing a nice little You know hit start from northern california work our way all the way down southern california trip I think that'll probably be the closest thing. Oh my god, right? Can we sell some merch on the way? Absolutely, I'll be so happy. I'll probably want to strangle sal though that much time I might bring like a guitar broccoli and fucking fish inside the the RV and dear god, you know It's his fucking his all his all natural clothes and earplugs all natural deodorant and stuff I think by about day three or so in the RV. I might be Tired to strangle in you guys. Yeah, you don't want to get rid of Beyonce. 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