 They are all call us to order welcome back from your July recess to your Forest City Council work session today is August 1st and 106 degrees At least we're inside Motion to extend break. Okay Okay, it was gonna be a while All jokes aside. Thank you very much. I hope staff got a little bit of a reprieve from seeing us over the last month And with that David, I guess I'll turn the meeting over to you. Thank you very much. Hello everybody. Welcome back Come on All right First thing up. I'm a call on Dana We're doft to introduce a new interim director Dana. All right if I can Ricky Salazar come on up So you'll all recall that we got to say goodbye to Steve Cook as our property management director And so we needed to name an interim director while we recruit for that position And I'm thrilled to report that Ricky Salazar has agreed to take on that mantle Ricky is born and raised in Fort Worth Texas Tech graduate. He's a registered professional land man He's a certified real estate agent and he's had been has been serving as the assistant director for our real property division So handling all of the purchases and sales of city property as well as leases that we both give out or take on Including gas leasing so it's got a great portfolio and a lot of great knowledge about Fort Worth and a love for Fort Worth So wanted to make sure you knew Ricky and we'd be able to reach out to him for anything any questions that you might have about About property management, not just real property, but also now buildings facilities and and our city fleet. So Ricky Thank you And then want to give Ricky a chance to introduce one of his new hires. So turn it over to you Ricky Thank you Dana. Thank you mayor and council I look forward to serving in this interim role as director of the property management department But I'm also wanting to introduce Eliana Guevara stand up. I told her I wouldn't make her talk So I'm gonna hold up But I were pleased to announce the promotion of Eliana Guevara to The assistant director of general service division for the property management department Eliana has been an integral part of property management for seven years now She's been with the city for 11 years started as a Intern for the mayor's office and financial management service department and she worked her way up to a Management analyst and a budget analyst and so she's been with us for seven years So we're really excited to have her join our team as the new assistant director of general services So please join me in welcoming her Thank you Ricky next up our informal reports. I Think when we were back in June the last set was 20 some Now we're at three much better So the first one is on the 2023 to 20 27 consolidated plan and Victor Turner is available if there are any questions Very good. All right. Next up is a report on the city street maintenance schedule and Lauren Priere is available if there are any questions I Just have a comment and thanks to staff for putting this together. It was very helpful to me I would just like maybe for Lauren's team and Renee to work together on how do we put this into format? That's actually easy for public consumption. You'll may already be on top of that Maybe there's something I don't know about I get lots of questions about this I would just like to be able to point constituents to something easy to read Yeah, absolutely. And so first I'd like to acknowledge our payments management staff led by dr. Omar Elba Galati We have not one but two PhDs leading this effort So there's two things one We are more than happy to come out to your community meetings to discuss this in detail We'd love to give you a presentation, but also on October 11th, 2022 We gave a presentation on this very topic to the mobility Infrastructure and transportation committee. So if you want to go back on YouTube or the city of Fort Worth TV You can rewatch that presentation at your leisure. So Thank you Lauren any other questions Okay, thank y'all very much and the third and former report is on the will Rogers Memorial Center Capital budget and a funding change and Michael Krum is available if there's any questions Any questions from council? No, okay. Thank you All right, this is a record time mayor my reports complete First up is any questions on upcoming significant zoning cases anything that Staff needs to be aware of leading into August 8th meeting and Any questions regarding the MNC log that's that's scheduled for August 8th Okay next would be our annual update on operations for the Fort Botanic Garden I know that Dave Lewis is here from Parks and Recreation and then Patrick Newman who is our CEO and president of Our wonderful Brit and Fort Botanic Garden. Thank you Patrick for being here Good afternoon mayor and council good to see you again Dave Lewis interim director of Park and Recreation Department as you could recall in October of 2020 we entrusted the management of the Fort Worth Botanic Garden to Brit the Botanical Research Institute of Texas They've been tremendous partners. They've made great progress in advancing the success of the gardens as you know, we also Came in front of you in February to get their master plan endorsed and also adopted as a Amendment to the Park Recreation open space master plan as well as the city's comprehensive plan So I'm happy to introduce Patrick Newman the president CEO Botanic Research Institute of Texas Brit Botanic Garden all of it So I'm gonna actually switch so he can have the good side. So Patrick Thank You Dave mayor council. It's good to be with you all and Happy to give you an update on where we are at the Fort Worth Botanic Garden. Let me make sure this is working for us It's gonna be a short report The betters go dead on the break Thank you All right, so a couple of new faces on the council So I thought it might be appropriate just to kind of remind you Or share with you a few facts about the Fort Worth Botanic Garden. It is the oldest Botanic Garden in Texas Roughly 120 acres When we combined both the Botanical Research Institute of Texas and the Fort Worth Botanic Garden We collectively created one of the largest Botanic Gardens and Botanical Research Centers in the US And so so I'm really great and very exciting things happening at the Fort Worth Botanic Garden As per our management agreement with the city we are asked to report On an annual basis and keep you informed as to how things are going at the Botanic Garden I'm here to say they are going very well Are there any questions? Well, there are four key benchmarks that we that we like to report on And these are spelled out in the management agreement again. They are really growth and attendance Maintaining accessibility by keeping a minimum of 10% of our admissions either free or discounted We want to demonstrate growth in non-city funding so growth in our other funding streams and then show that there is increased participation in our various Education and community programs So let me begin first with Visitation and admission we're comparing fiscal year 2020 to fiscal year 2022 And so that we have an apples to apples comparison here. We have we're not including in that 255,000 number we're not including concerts in the garden because we didn't have concerts in the garden in 2020 We're also not including admission from our lightscape event because we didn't have that in 2020 Factor both of those in our visitation is about 362,000 guests a year over what you see there in 2022 so excuse me in 2020 so great growth in terms of visitation and we anticipate that will continue in subsequent years As that relates to gate receipts and revenue you can see that we went from roughly a million dollars in gate receipts to 2.2 in 2022 and then we're forecasting roughly 2.7 this fiscal year in Earned revenue through the gate part of that is through a modest increase in admission prices that we made last year. It's a kind of a quasi Dynamic system that allowed us to keep One ticket price flat so anyone who purchases ticket in advance online There's there was no increase to that cost But then when we are we know we're going to be busy. We know there's high demand We can increase the price just a little bit So it's a way for us to Increase our revenue just a little bit in terms of accessibility and hanging that 10% mark You can kind of see we're just over that 10% mark With just over 25,000 guests who received three or reduced admissions And we continue to work on that number as our overall admissions increase that number becomes More and more difficult to hit this summer. We've been offering A buy one get one free Admission through the whole summer. It's been warm outside people have been responding to that so That will of course help us with these numbers as well But we also are targeting audiences We have the muse pass which is in music in libraries rather that people can check out free admission if you will We've distributed a large number of free passes. We're part of museums for all which means anyone with a snap card that Individual and anyone that's in their party gets in for free anytime So we continue to work on on that number, but happy to report that we hit get the 10% and then in terms of funding and looking at how City funding is decreasing as an overall percentage of our funding you can see In that first column there on your left that's gone from 67 to 43 percent I would say admissions and membership are probably the two earned revenue categories that are carrying that growth and allowing us to Sort of move away from dependency on the city funding We still to be clear. We still want the city funding. We're just not as dependent And then in terms of programming We gave you a four-year snapshot here so you can see that 2019 Numbers those are pre-pandemic. So this is sort of looking at how we are recovering in terms of visitation and programming post-pandemic You'll see modest recovery in a couple of categories. This by no means indicates all of the depth of program We have but these are kind of our four biggest areas. You'll see the biggest growth in community education And also a significant growth in elementary student visitation Part of that is our focus on fourth grade and providing stem opportunities for every fourth grade student in Fort Worth And so that's why you're seeing an increase on a pretty rapid increase on the elementary student side And then as we look to be renowned globally both for the research that we do but also treasured locally here in Fort Worth We put a lot of emphasis on the community education piece to be able to provide educational and programming opportunities for our community Any questions about those four metrics before I jump into some projects seeing none I'll jump into projects So one that we reported on last time and again, there's some new faces So let me just quickly bring you up to speed on our comprehensive master plan We we selected ultimately Design workshop. Excuse me design workshop studio outside out of Dallas and they led us through a Really kind of a year-long process In creating a long-term vision for the Fort Worth Botanic Garden it includes the entire campus all 120 acres I'm not going to go into great detail, but do want to just highlight a couple of things We are in the silent phase of the first project Which is a roughly two-acre family garden that'll be a 19 million dollar capital campaign that will be completely privately funded The next projects that will be sort of in queue On your I guess that's your top right You'll see a permanent ban shell and stage Each summer we host concerts in the garden along with our great friends at the Fort Worth Symphony Orchestra at their expense They bring in a temporary stage build it up all of the infrastructure that's associated with it And then we tear that down at the end of the the program This would be a way for us to Have a permanent facility that benefits the the symphony and orchestra But it's also an opportunity for us to dramatically increase our cultural offerings. It could be Performance art could be movies could be dance could be a whole host of things so a way for us to really make this I mean this is in the same part of the garden where we currently hold concerts in the garden This creates a sort of a cultural hub At the garden for us and then new entry sequence which includes a parking garden and a whole new entry sequence It is outdoors And allows us to increase our gate receipts as well Mayor pretend Evans you have a question for Patrick. It's just one Patrick This may be self-serving, but sure you're not disturbing the spirit of woman statue. Are you we would never disturb? Thank you. Yeah, okay All right, so Which is a statue just for your reference that is kind of off offscreen just a little bit where this this vista is Right, so this is a ways away from spirit of women Answer the question great So then just want to bring you up to speed really quickly Where we stand on on some of the support that has come from the city for infrastructure and deferred maintenance The 2020 tax note program was 4.3 million Which came Through through the city to the botanic garden and let me just really quickly give you a sense of where we're at with With that you can see most has either been encumbered or expensed So there's just a little bit left on those projects and let me give you a sense of what those projects look like So the completed projects you can see on the screen there in front of you And Here are some photos that really sort of make it more real for you So this was a significant one for us the moon bridge which had been closed to the public for quite some time This is probably the most Iconic and most photograph spot in the garden and so it was important to us to replace this As we put a new moon bridge in which has become incredibly popular and people are Taking photos and posting on Instagram and all the things that we wanted them to do Significant improvements. This is another on the left there is another improvement in the Japanese garden on the right Is a very significant improvement to the historical rose garden when I came to Fort Worth. Mr. Cook asked me when The frogs outside of the garden center would spit again. They never have But the lion's head is now spitting. So I wasn't able to deliver on the frogs I'm sorry, mr. Cook, but the lion's head is now we did get that one work The fountain which is outside the view of this picture the fountain is also working It's it is really dramatically changed that space and returned it back to what it was historically So we're excited about that This is kind of a subsurface drainage Improvement project that was in the South Vista That helps set the stage no pun intended for events like Concerts in the garden other things it allows for that space to drain really quickly If you've ever been at a concert after a significant rain event You'll know that we this was an improvement that needed to be made and then this one We're really excited about old garden road, which is no longer. It's new So we probably should consider a name change. It's not really at the old garden road anymore But this was a significant improvement to the garden if you ever left the Japanese garden through the east gate You sort of spilled out onto an asphalt road And you wondered if you had stumbled back of house and did you really belong where you were at? This is a beautiful pedestrian promenade that connects the fuller garden with the Japanese garden and Really is it will become the the entry point for the family garden So this is a significant significant project, which is now complete and has been planted out If you've not had chance to see this I would encourage you to come and see this firsthand I know it's hot out, but we have What we call our beauty bus, which is a shuttle that is air-conditioned and also All of our shuttles have wheelchair lifts. So they're very accessible. We put misting fans in a couple of key locations. So We can take care of you even in the heat if you haven't seen this I would suggest you come and see it preferably in the morning when it's relatively cool and then a project that's under way right now is the rolling Hills greenhouse project This is roughly 20,000 square feet of production greenhouse out at the rolling Hills facility just want to give a nod and express thanks to The team at the forestry department who have been gracious enough to let us sort of join them in that area There's some shared Work that can be done. And so we're excited about about a partnership there and looking forward to opening this facility later this year This is just a quick snapshot of what the funds looked like at the end of last year a lot of this has already been Expensed you can see old garden road on there that project is complete But we're we're rapidly trying to complete all of the tax note projects and move into The projects that were part of the 2022 Bond project you'll see at the very bottom there those the Second to last that site preparation for the children's garden. That's part of that last picture. I showed you Which is both some demolition of the old greenhouses, but construction of the new greenhouses as well And then just give you a quick view of kind of where the seven million from the 2022 bond program will be implemented Any questions Questions council No from that last slide how much are private funds So this is that seven million is all public and then there's private stuff that is associated with it So you're not seeing the private side of this and if you want I can give you more detail Yes, what we're anticipating the private to be on some of these. Okay. Yeah for sure So the question is whether lightscape will come back and the answer is yes Lightscape is sort of Revisioned so this it will be thank you by the way. It will be bigger a better and Bigger and better than last year. So it'll be it's definitely coming back. We're really excited about it Just as a side note. We had I think something like 52 engagements under that winter cathedral And they all said yes Free happy about it 52 that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, we were really said no No, we thought when we when we had when we saw it happening We thought maybe we should have like a counseling service at the end of the tunnel in case but they all said yes That's neat Michael and Jared. Go ahead So on the 4th of July notice that there was or around the 4th of July I noticed that there was a drone show at the gardens. Was that one of your public events or was that a private? So that was yeah, that was part of the concerts in the garden So we we made a move a shift along with the good people at the symphony orchestra We made a move away from the fireworks and started doing drone shows, which were if you didn't see were amazing. They were Awesome. What was the feedback from the audience that participated? The feedback for me, which is the one that matters is it was fantastic It was very cool, I loved it. Yeah, it was cool. That was a chance for the fire department to stand up and clap That's where I was going It really was well done. I would love to sit down and learn how y'all coordinated that yeah And it's really awesome to see you from the highway and I promise I was focusing on driving It was just so hard to miss It's worth noting that that was a hundred drones Dallas Arboretum did a similar thing with their concert series, but only 75 drones So nobody's in competition, but Michael just saying That's it. I just want to say thank you Being on staff when all this transition was happening from it going with this partnership And I know my mayor Pro Tem Bivens and Carlos sort of lived through it and Maddie did too You kind of see how this can work and there was lots of animosity and angst about would public still have access to Botanic gardens and you see that they do and they're getting better and better Events facilities everything else that's going on. So thanks for your stewardship of this treasure for the city Well, thanks you for thanks for trusting us and allow us to do it We're really proud of this wonderful treasure the city has and and feel very privileged to be able to be the stewards of it So thank you didn't even drop my favorite quote that you always give which is emotional souvenirs of the panic Richard's of all is saying the same thing. So if you haven't yet had a chance to come out to the Botanic Garden this summer I would encourage you to come out and create an emotional souvenir Thank you, thank you Patrick. Appreciate you any other questions council, okay Thank You Dave. Thank you Patrick Okay We're moving on presentation on council strategic vision priorities. Martin McDaniel is going to lead us in that. What art? What is our vision mark? Hello, Mary council either We're going to talk a little bit about what we heard from all of you after your retreat in February So we spent a lot of time with each of you Oh Check check. Okay. Sorry We spent a lot of time with each of you talking about what the different priorities meant and Hopefully you saw some of your voices coming back to you There's two were two items in your packet the first one was a little more detailed Which is on the screen at least an example of this Where it has the same information that you have in your PowerPoint, but down below We've tried to pull some quotes so that so that you saw that we understood what you were saying And this is already coming into play And the development of the budget for fiscal year 24, which I'll talk about a little bit more in a minute So if we can switch to the PowerPoint Which just tracks with the the same document? Okay, so again after the council met in their retreat there was an overall priority of quality of life and For the council and their interpretation what that meant was economic development and community investment Community safety and then infrastructure responsible growth and fiscal responsibility. And so we spoke with each of you about these The other things that we're doing kind of behind the scenes and you'll see later is Not just with the budget process, but with also staff operate operating plans. So each Department will have a mini strategic plan, which we're calling Fort Worth stat Where we sit down with each department twice annually outside of the budget process We look at their their goals and how they're supporting your goals and what action steps they're taking and then also with the trends are and Data is behind how where they're doing and achieving those So you can just see how this will all cascade from the work that you did back in February So I want to talk a little bit more about each of these three priorities starting with economic development and community investment Create an environment where businesses and individuals have what they need to thrive And you can see two sub bullet points there just again very general But if we drill down And go deep deeper Again hearing from you as far as goals This means to improve the development process to invest in revitalizing neighborhoods including access to food and dining options Attracting and retain corporations and jobs. This might be headquarters of a major corporation Ensure access to affordable housing and address homelessness Which I I think was great and seeing that you'll see that in multiple Priorities not just just one support and develop small businesses Focus on commercial and retail development including the growth quarters We had a lot heard a lot about growth corridors and mixed-use development and sustained existing community and cultural assets Enhanced recreation and learning opportunities. I think of all the Three priorities when mr. Cook and I sat down with each of you This was probably the one that had the greatest differences from among you, but We felt like it was all Certainly relative to this subject and So that's why we you can see a lot of different things mentioned under this particular priority Next we go into community safety and In our discussions, you'll recall. This is really not just about police and fire. It's also about code enforcement Street traffic safety just a number of things and so hearing from you We heard that you want to have a regional lens and looking at the issue of public safety Not just city limits because crime doesn't know boundaries Or problems don't know boundaries Using data and technology to enhance public safety approaches and then prioritize strategic partnerships We've heard a lot about partnerships and leveraging the city's resources particularly when it comes to economic development, but also here in and community safety So drilling down on the community safety, you can see the goals increased community presence and non-traditional approaches to enforcement Building trust through relationships education communities listening easing the traffic flow and enhancing road safety heard a lot about traffic Flow Shorten response times improve reliability and outcomes of public safety services. We also heard a lot about this particular item Use modern approaches data and technology monitoring view the use of CCPD and other funding sources and then enhance Neighborhood infrastructure, so I thought it was great to see this in under community safety Would you also see it under the infrastructure priority as well? and Then finally the third priority is infrastructure responsible growth and fiscal responsibility and usually we got feedback on These three individually from each of you and so we'll share that here now So this is proactively planning for growth and using community-driven long-range plans to guide decisions Using a variety of mechanisms to build to maintain infrastructure And then also leverage partnerships again, so partnerships like we heard that over and over again about how to leverage those partnerships and Then drilling down on this Enhancing connectivity and of communities at both the neighborhood and city-wide levels Maintain the infrastructure and assets on schedule Prioritize preservation of parks and open space reduce and prevent negative impacts of flooding provide opportunities for robust public engagement in all planning processes and Proactively plan for growth to ensure funding for and keep a capacity of infrastructure Enhanced stakeholder relationships to build trust and identify opportunities for funding partnerships And then also defer diversify the tax base and manage the tax rate So the next slide is talks about next steps obviously the presentation today We are incorporating your priorities into the budget in fact this morning. I met with mr. Cook and In concept we have a balanced budget as of this morning and now we're putting all those details together And so that he can present that budget to you on August 8th And so a lot of I think great great priorities coming out in that budget process And then the next thing we'll be doing is create systems that link and visualize plans So part of this is Fort Worth stat, but it's also dashboarding right so having the website with dashboards about your priorities And how well we're doing and then reporting out to you on a regular basis This is part of that effort with the lab in terms of data analytics And so we have a company on board you recall delivery associates That's helping us to build those databases and and use those tools So that we can illustrate the work that's being done So with that mayor, I'll be happy to answer any questions Questions from council members Anybody have any feedback that doesn't seem this was aligned with what they discussed with Mark or team Gina I Have one and I may be digging a little bit too deep in the weeds on this but when you talk about database What's the content of the database or bases you're talking about? So what we're doing the first thing that we have to do and we're spending a lot of time doing this is Inventoring what we have so we have so much data that people don't really know How much data we have from the department to department in particular So we're trying to make sure it's reliable and scrub it So it may be data that's in the police department or maybe data that's in HR Or you know what you pick the department Making sure that the databases are scrubbed and they're reliable And then also making them available and then matching up databases that have never been matched up before so looking at what indications in one department might mean for another department and cross Tabulating those databases. So here's a follow-up for you a few years ago we started creating newsletters by by district and My district was said to have had 10,000 or 9,000 subscribers I Asked the question. Who are they? How do I add to it? How do I delete from it? I couldn't get any solid answers and so That's not a criticism and I don't know how that that data was compiled anyway, but are you able to? Give hope that those types of questions can be addressed and corrected. Yeah, absolutely that that's probably the primary goal in terms of this effort that we're underway now it's They're spending most of their time looking at where the data is and is it reliable? And so we also want to have it centralized with the lab so that people can go to one source for all the data and know that It's reliable and one final question. This is the last one. I promise you mayor We have a number of neighborhood associations and homeowner associations whose leaders die They go inactive and they're just hanging out there somewhere so how do you how do you do the impossible and Still get the best information out to people because it's very important during the zoning process That people trying to get zoning changes be given accurate information on who to contact a case in point on one of mine I had just brought back a neighborhood association to life But the information was given to the applicant for a zoning change was given those old people Who were the ones who the reason why would defunct anyway, so is that going to be an improvement that we can anticipate? Yes, that's a perfect example of you know why the data is not really being utilized as well as it should be Any other questions council? No, thank you mark. I appreciate you Okay, moving on our next item is the fire ad hoc committee recommendation I think that Valerie Washington and maybe mark are both gonna kick this off and Carlos for us who's chaired that committee Thanks Carlos for that service. Okay, perfect. Okay. Good afternoon mayor fellow council members City manager and staff in our audience members But we arrived finally at a list of recommendations the task was daunting at times, but we did it In the fall of 2022 The city council by resolution established a fire staffing ad hoc committee We were tasked with doing three things one Examining the fire department's current ability and recommend changes to meet their minimum daily staffing needs To determine the baseline number of authorized sworn positions based on city gate and the local 440 Finch studies Three explore opportunities to use civilian personnel including Appropriate positions to staff with civilians the ad hoc committee members were there's truly the chair Citizen city manager Valerie Washington our consultant Hillary shine Fire chief James Davis assistant fire chief James Horton local 440 representatives Many of which are here today president Michael Glenn first vice president Zach Schafer city attorney Christopher trout Richard Savala Jack of all trades. I would describe him as being Casey Lamas Oliver Orkan Christian Simmons of I guess formerly the recall planning and data analytics aka forward lab Mark McDaniel forward lab chief and transformation officer Casey Bess and Deanna Giordano from human resources Our ad hoc committee started meeting on mark 6 and held a total of 10 working meetings Originally the ad hoc committee was directed to achieve these goals and submit final Recommendations to the city council honor about April 1st for subsequent implementation Out of necessity we managed to meet scheduling around staff availability and the required time it took to collect staffing and operations data We recommend a total of 76 positions comprised of 70 sworn and six civilians Having to operate 60 lone positions contributed To 31 million dollars in overtime last fiscal year Therefore reducing reliance on OT was a priority for the ad hoc committee Our presentation will show net savings over the course of the three next fiscal years It is my honor to have served as chair and I want to convey my sincere appreciation to each and every one of our ad hoc committee members For pulling together as a team to achieve our objectives and Present to you our final ad hoc staffing recommendations And I think Hillary shine is next to kind of step us through some process comments Hillary Thank You councilmember Flores Good afternoon. I'm Hillary shine here with strategic government resources and let me can I just back up and say good job on the strategic priorities? Good job everybody. We were here So today I am here as the SGR representative who was working with the various stakeholders throughout this process So as councilman floor as mentioned we met for the better part of three months Through ten separate meetings. Why did it take so much time and effort when we had reports already? Well, number one is we had a variety of stakeholders So you may look at it and think oh firefighters. Well, we also had to look at the implications Organization-wide we needed to be able to justify every single position We brought back to you all as a body so that you could explain to the public whether you Approved or did not approve the recommendations as presented. We have we had a couple of competing reports Those reports talked about personnel But they did not necessarily go into the full financial implications of what these decisions might make short term and long term There were policy Decisions that needed to be made we don't want to get back into the same situation that we are today And so what do we need to do to structure the correct policies moving forward so that fire can continue to meet the demands that are required of them but also so that the city as a whole can be involved in that process of position management and and financial allocations so all of that to say we are going to present to you a significant amount of information that has been distilled into some short slides But just for your reference, I mean this is just a sample of the amount of data We went through we went through position by position. We went through various financial models. We included the lab We included human resources The 440 was at the table every step of the way and what I I would say to you all is that I think the proudest part of this Committee is that we worked through this as a team all the way even with differing opinions from different stakeholder groups and Verified all of our facts and came out of it with the unanimous recommendation that's going to be presented to you today So I'm very proud and very privileged to have served on this team and the leadership of Councilman Flores was Outstanding throughout and Valerie Washington and mark me Daniel I mean I can't and chiefs and Michael and everyone who participated it truly was a group effort And so I think we are all standing here together proud of the accomplishment and proud to present to you what is coming next So I believe it's Valerie. Thank you All right. Thank you, Hillary mayor and council. Thanks for the opportunity for us to come before you with these staff faffing Recommendations, I know that you've been waiting and I appreciate the patience you gave us to work with Hillary the local the fire chiefs HR to really come together and come up with a Defendable staffing plan that we're truly proud to present to this group as councilmember Flores and Hillary mentioned we met for about 10 meetings And generally three to four hour meetings. They were sometimes pretty intense We went through and looked at every position. We were looked at workload. We looked at performance metrics really to make sure and to understand what every single position in the fire department was doing as We did that exercise. We wanted to call out some of the key findings before we get into the nitty-gritty of the recommendations One you'll hear us talk about loan positions and those are positions where we have a person in operations Who's meeting the minimum daily staffing requirement? They are pulled from that position to staff somewhere else Leaving a hole in that minimum required staffing position requiring the fire department to backfill that with an overtime position We went through and looked at all of the loan positions that the city gate report called out Chief Davis had made some changes as we worked through city gate. So we had some adjustments in numbers. We found some New loan positions that we needed to take care of that city gate had not referenced We discovered as we looked at those non-op positions that they were all carrying out necessary functions They were doing work that keeps the city moving forward and they needed to continue doing that work We had not established baseline staffing for those non-op divisions and that was one of our charges So moving forward with our staffing plan chief Davis and his team have baseline staffing for the non-operational divisions that they can use for future staffing conversations as We talked through this one of the other impacts to fire overtime and everyone's right We have been on chief Davis in the fire department about overtime for the last couple of years They have seen an increase in the number of special events and Disspecial programs that they cover that leads to overtime Chief shared an article today that I think highlighted Dickies as one of the top Top facilities as far as bringing in Concerts acts and other programming so we continue will continue to see that need for fire and police coverage there grow Another item that we had a chance to talk about that we need to dig in deeper Is the use of sick and family leave we saw that leave increase? That's another thing if you have firefighters on unapproved leave You still have to backfill for their positions when they're not there We spent about eleven point seven million dollars in fiscal year twenty-two on overtime tied to sick and family leave That's an area that we want to work with the local human resources in the fire department again to get a better handle on that So with that we'll go into our recommendations as mentioned We list out its 70 sworn positions and six civilian at your places. I left a list that details out The exact positions and locations for where those 70 positions and six civilians would go the table up here on the screen just shows the fire divisions from fire prevention through Community risk reduction and the positions that will go to those divisions. We also talked about some fire operations positions Fire had enough firefighters to staff minimum daily staffing, but there were other dynamics that were part of that picture One they have a twenty percent vacation relief ratio through collective bargaining And so they have to cover the bodies and people who are taking vacation leave With bodies that you don't have to pay overtime the fire department has struggled to fully staff the vacation relief positions Our request recommends that they add 14 new vacation relief positions to their workforce To better allow for a time off coverage We also are recommending three new battalion chiefs and creating a battalion eight Currently, or there are seven fire battalions City gate had recommended that we look at creating a battalion eight just due to increased volume Citizen demands and future citizen demands on the north side of town So the chief and and the team agreed unanimously to recommend creating that battalion chief position As we went through the recommendations really making sure we captured the loan positions I said was was key for us We identified on this listing 53 positions that are going back to operations Through this recommendation. We've established baseline staffing for the fire department and their non-ops divisions We're also capturing over time to help fund this a felt help fund the staffing Mark, but Daniel will go into that in just a few minutes And again, we have a baseline staffing that the fire department can use moving forward for staffing discussions As we looked at the plan and how we would accomplish meeting the goal We had a lot of conversations with our team about what is the capacity at the training academy and really what training Instructors does the chief need at the training academy to really have successful well-trained recruits As we looked at that we determined that 50 was kind of the magic number As far as recruits to get through a training Academy We flirted around and got up to 75. We even talked about a hundred at one point in time But really kind of scaled that back and realized that we didn't need to over staff the recruit classes We needed to make sure that there was a good student to instructor ratio They were getting hands-on attention and getting the good training that we need before we released them Our plan is to have two classes of 50 We propose having a class of 50 start in September That would include the new recruits to cover the new positions and it will also cover an attrition class fire generally You loses 25 to 30 Recruits a year, so we cover those through attrition to make sure they remain fully staffed We would have a second recruit class in February of 50 Both of those recruit classes would complete by the end of the fiscal year So those firefighters would be in place by the end of fiscal year 24 I Do want to note as you look through your listing of positions It's really specific We spent time again with the local and everyone on the committee really breaking down the informations and understanding the functions There is some flexibility here when you look at even the dispatch positions as we're continuing to have conversations about dispatch and 9-1-1 The fire rollover are the rollover line that fire answers and helping the police staffing But if there are things that change in the dispatch world those positions could be adjusted and used in other places within the fire department So there's some dynamic nature to these positions as we work with Chief Davis in the future And I think with that mark I'm going to turn it over to you to cover the commitment to overtime savings Thank you Val and I think probably up to this point when we look at the studies The one thing that we never really had was a good handle on on what was causing the overtime beyond You know what was the obvious but also how much? Should it cost and and if we were to fill those positions What would be this savings and so we worked not in a vacuum in the lab But we worked hand-in-hand with particularly Chief Horton on Chief Davis's staff and His team to really scrub these numbers and go back and forth and back and forth to make sure we were both comfortable with the final numbers and so you can see here at the top which Valie already mentioned that We are running 31 million and overtime for 22. It looks like we're gonna hit 33 this year. That's just I think salary is not including benefits And so we might have we have much lower budgets, of course so what we're anticipating is is getting these these Graduates or these folks through class Before fiscal year 25 starts right so you'll have a hundred through by having a September Academy and a February Academy This includes the folks that are we may lose to attrition which we factor factor that in as well so that we could Realize savings in overtime as soon as possible. So you can see the cost of training in fiscal year 24 This is moving all those people through the Academy And then you have some initial Overtime saved and with that first class Partially anyway, and then you can see by year two and three We're getting close to eight was 8.4 and then close to nine million dollars. I'm sorry 13 and then 13.8. So the net savings is Five million as was mentioned earlier. So this is what we'll be counting on as we put the budgets together They have been overspending their budget. So this would necessarily wouldn't be a budget cut But it would be a reduction in costs And so as Val mentioned, we also want to look closer at sick leave and the impacts of sick leave Because that has been a growing impact as we've identified in the process The other thing that we felt was very important I Think maybe Hillary mentioned this is that we don't want to go back to the same situation And so we had a very good productive meeting with the chief and his staff and HR About policies that we need to put in place to make sure that we don't end up back in the situation So what we discovered is they actually have quite a few SOPs or stand-operating procedures already on the books That will help to get this underway. They're several very old And so we'll we'll reference those again, but also upgrade them So they're a little tighter not just on when you can move positions and for how long and what sort of authorizations is required But when you can create new functions and operations and there's a you know, there's even a process for that and then just really looking closely also on a regular basis on the on the overtime Oliver and in the Fort Worth lab has built some great Dashboards and done some data analytics and built some tools to monitor the time on a Very close basis to the point that when we calculated overtime savings We were looking at individuals that had been in position for Some time we knew exactly what the rate was we built in the CBA adjustments for the next few years to understand What the impacts would be in future years as well So I think that the job was very thorough and again, I think this was an element that perhaps we were missing up to this point We're proposing our next steps would be to include the committee recommendations in the 24 recommended budget To institute the policies and procedures we talked about as far as position control and movement within the fire department Make sure we're implementing the recruit class staffing plan and working closely with HR on those deadlines and making sure the fire Department has a good hiring list to choose from as they do those processes Tracking milestones and then continuing to work with the fire department's HR and city leadership on second family time usage We wanted to make sure again Hillary showed you we had a lot of information and it was hard to boil down exactly All that we needed to share with y'all today Chief Horton did put together a good resource package that includes really all of the divisional Presentations we receive from the fire department That includes org charts workload stats deliverables goals That we can send either electronically or print we can send that to you as a good resource backup And and with that we Again as Michael or not Michael as mark Myself Hillary, I'm sure Michael Glenn and his team and the Chief Davis and his team would echo Just the amount of work and collaboration that went in we had our storming and norming as a committee But we were incredibly respectful And honest with each other and I think we were all very proud of being able to reach a unanimous staffing recommendation to offer to you today Thank you very thank you mark questions council Gina wants to report electronic resource packet. Yeah, we can have that. I appreciate Chief Horton and his team putting that together for us Okay, thank you. Any other questions from council Elizabeth. Go ahead And I just and we talked about yesterday and I'm still a little unclear Based on the city gate report and the total number of positions that they recommended we have In the Fort Worth fire department Does this fill all of the positions they recommended? I know yesterday We talked about how they there wasn't a bottom line number They were all kind of scattered all over the place, but have we consolidated that? Do we know what their ultimate recommendation was and where this gets us towards that? Towards that goal. Yeah, I have their They're listing of all the loan positions that they called out and they called out 60 total positions Into different priority levels. No, I can all hand this out separate. I'm sorry. It was just the print from the city gate report That shows the different fire divisions and the recommendations And I think we mirror very closely to what city gate provided to us We did find additional positions or different positions For example city gate had not called out a firefighter that was helping us with recruiting efforts And helping us with diversity minority recruiting and getting out in the community So city gate hadn't captured that and it is one that we captured And made sure that we took care of through this process But councilmember back. I will send out the city gate listing so you can compare it But it's it's pretty close and to looking at the listing. They didn't get into the specifics They just called out fire prevention. They recommended 11 positions And I think we were pretty spot-on with same recommendation So I think as we look through there's maybe a few that differed But I think we were really really close to what city gate recommended Okay, Gina go ahead and then Michael okay, you you it's a wonderful report. I appreciate the tag teaming You cannot convince me that you end up with a love best when you get so many different people in the room We heard from city staff, but we've not heard from people Representing 440 who was there? I'd like to know if 440 reps were in sync And if their president can come to the make or is that something later? We can do that. That's fine Let's do council questions, and we'll all have Sherman or Michael come up to the podium Michael. Okay. Anybody else have questions before I bring up Michael or Sherman Michael go ahead. I don't really have a question. I and again this may come out what you're talking about I do remember some specific number Elizabeth is part of this But I also want to just put on the record to this isn't a fix forever So this is the starting point and we will continue to have to have these conversations as our city continues to grow We need when we add Across so this might be good for now as a recommendation, but this will continue to be a conversation We have to have that's exactly what it was intended to do Michael It sets it sets the pace to make those and I think I was either Valerie or Hillary you mentioned or both that it will help us in subsequent, you know fire staffing talks and Michael as you come I hope you can give some feedback as to where there may have been some Challenges and how you all got to some resolution and I just need to hear from somebody other than Traditional city and before Michael starts sorry to interrupt you Michael Valerie How how does the increase look in training so 50 person per class? What's been our average the last few classes or I think I mean I wouldn't say you fire has been close to 40 40 to 50 people in their classes over the last couple of classes. Am I wrong? Am I right? Okay 35, okay, so we're increasing it by 15 increase. Yeah, no concern from fire or for 40 about that increase to 50 in those classes No, and we talked a lot like I said, we tried to push it We were trying to be a maximizer and you know see if we could push more through But we had an honest conversation about what's feasible Deanna the HR director talked us about health and safety And I think that as a group we landed on 50 as being that safe number They can do more but it may require a little bit more resources and just some more thoughtful planning to pull it off Okay, thank you, though Michael. Go ahead. Please sure. No. Thank you very much Councilmember business. I appreciate the question and mayor and council. I appreciate the opportunity to get up and actually get to speak to this there I Would offer up that we are in agreement with with being presented It definitely was 10 meetings and it wasn't we we had differing opinions as we worked through the Through the data as we worked through the findings Of course, we came to the table being firefighters out in the field In understanding what what we're seeing and what our members are seeing These are needed These are needed positions. We've been sounding the bell for the last couple of years as you as you know I'm glad that we finally got to the point where we're gonna be adding positions because we've been needing it. We're hiring You're spending a lot of money on overtime We're hiring a lot of firefighters every day. I'm looking forward to a continued conversation as mentioned about sick leave and in what opportunities we can have to have a good conversation about that because that can be a cost-saving measure Long term there really are some costs long-term cost savings that we can look at but these are definitely needed positions They will be well very very much appreciated by the members out on the front lines Working in I think you mentioned a hundred six degrees today They're gonna be out on a brush fire later today We're gonna be out on a house fire and it could be two houses going at the same time, which we saw earlier this week This will be a much needed relief for our members to where we're not having to work as much over time looking forward to it talk talk more about overtime Especially for these new people around the table. Yes, ma'am that issue has been why it's been such a challenge and why you're I'll say glad we're at where we are now, right? So there's a number of my members here from our executive board And they all would would echo the same thing that when many of us hired on if we were offered to work You know a few hundred hours of overtime a year That was that was a pretty big year That was a lot of hours and then it crept up to where we were hitting seven hundred hours Then over a thousand hours and the amount of hours that are being needed to staff the trucks because of Vacancies in the department or other needs in the department our guys It's we're working there's a lot of overtime and so it's to the point now where we are now Beyond people volunteering to work. They're having to get force hired. So, you know yesterday morning and This morning Monday and Tuesday late in the summer We had to tell firefighters roughly roughly seven to ten firefighters I believe each day that you're not going home You thought you're going home, but you're gonna be here work on a Fort Worth fire truck serving the citizens and that's okay But but when it's you know multiple days a month multiple days a week that we are having to force people It's this staffing by adding these positions and it's gonna take a year It's gonna take a year for us to hire and train and we understand that But this time next year we're hoping or roughly this time next year that what we're facing with having to force hire firefighters To work overtime to protect to protect the resident the residents that you served and that you represent that it will really decrease the amount of those force hire needs Yes, ma'am Any other questions for Michael counsel Chris go ahead. Yeah, I had a question. I guess it's I think you put up a presentation screen about the transition process for the 24 physical year What we're proposing to bring on as new hires This one here. So we're proposing right now the authorized strength for the fire department is 979 and we're proposing to increase it by 70 positions bringing it up to 1049 For 20 for 24, okay, and you said 70 positions. Yep 70 sworn positions Okay, and that's gonna be a budget item. It were yes, it's gonna be included in the recommended budget Okay, the other question I had I know it was mentioned about having paramedic Training for one of the firefighters who are on the fire truck Is that included in this staffing study? Yes. Yes, it is Yes, they're that training and there's some additional Professional development that was included in the training Academy budget that will help with new recruits and with current firefighters and driving and safety I'm just Just one if it's gonna be an additional cost. That's what I'm I Think I mean we worked with the Fort Worth lab to really make sure we had all the cost fine-tuned and that everyone on the committee Agreed with what those costs were. So I think that we're pretty tight Neither questions council No, okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it Okay, our next item is an update on the selection of Chief nooks police advisory board. I think chief nooks is up Marry council I'm very thankful to have the opportunity to come before you today to give an update on our community advisory board And what I would like to do since we do have some new members on council now is go back and give just a brief Explanation of what the community advisory board is and what their duties are going to be Everything we do at the forward police department. We look back to our mission. What is our mission here before worth it? Provide quality service and partnership with the community to create a safe environment for all and that partnership Is part of what we're talking about here with the community advisory board because we are partnering with our community a Goal of the community advisory board is to empower Fort Worth residents to work with the police department and a collaborative Working group to further the goal of fair just and dignified treatment of every person While also keeping our residents safe from crime and disorder Our strategy is to have the community advisory board collaborate with the fourth police department and the office of the police oversight monitor opal to develop a more transparent Fair and equitable police department through review of and recommendations to forward PD on policies procedures and practices We came to the number of members to be honest given the the spectrum of the different Communities and cultures we see in Fort Worth We wanted to keep the number small enough that everyone had a voice but also large enough that we could include more groups We're looked at a maximum of 19 members and a minute. I'll show you the current members which sits at 14 currently What we did was included a diverse array of individuals from across the forward community We've already got experience who are involved who are acutely aware of the things that are going on at Fort Worth and Many of whom are already involved in finding solutions to the same problems We're dealing with at the forward police department and you as city leaders deal with as well So we looked at a lot of civic and social service organizations businesses economic development organizations faith leaders and those involved with youth and education These are our current members first. We have Susan Garnett CEO of MHMR Felipe Gutierrez who works at one safe place and also was the LGBTQ liaison Lauren King who's the executive director of the Tarrant County Homeless Coalition and net Landeros with the Fort Worth Hispanic Chamber Pastor Parrish Lowry with the Greater Friendship Missionary Baptist Church and he also has another unique Perspective given that he is with Tree of Life funeral directors and actually has had to Take part in directing the funerals of many who've been involved in gun violence and unfortunately lost their lives to it So he brings a very unique perspective Caleb Gonzalez is in the tech industry and he's one of our young adult representatives Bishop Rodney Macintosh is a community advocate who also brings a very unique perspective and that he's able to help us see the perspective of those who have been involved in the criminal justice system It may be help us work on our policies and our practices in dealing with that community Brother Lee Muhammad is with mosque 48. It is a very involved member of the Muslim community in Fort Worth Dr. David signs. He's the director of innovation at Fort Worth ISD Ty Stimson with the Fort Worth Metropolitan Black Chamber of Commerce who also practices law here in Fort Worth Estrus Tucker who has been involved in a countless number of initiatives in Fort Worth over the years One very notably was the race and culture task force Raleigh Vannam who was with the Hindu temple of greater Fort Worth Estella Williams president of the Fort Worth Tener County chapter of the NAACP and Judge Brent Carr who's now retired and one of the things that really drew us to helm Not only was he in criminal district court now, but he was involved with three different specialty courts One involving mental health One involving veterans treatment and one involving those who are exploited through sex trafficking and human trafficking And through his efforts over a thousand people were diverted from the criminal justice system and actually had enhanced lives after their Participation in those specialty courts So hope you can see that what we have here is a group who have been involved a Group here. It was making a difference at Fort Worth already And a group who can give us some great ideas and feedback on the policies and practices of the Fort Worth PD So as far as the duties we want them to review and understand our policies and procedures first And that's part of what we're going through right now is the onboarding and training Then they'll be able to gather and evaluate and discuss Information relative to our policies and procedures They can serve as an additional avenue if someone wants to make a complaint or a compliment on an officer and direct those to opom They can also help identify other issues that may need to be addressed by the department or opom And we want to have them develop a pamphlet something that can go out either hardcop your digitally to the community So the community understands what the community advisory board is and does and how they can make recommendations to them as well Lastly for the duties We'll be providing updates on the activities of the cab through the web city's website and through our website They're going to be identifying potential issues to solve or improve They're going to obtain input from the community and present that kind of information to us for more issues. We need to discuss Collaborate with subject matter experts to determine the best possible solutions Then propose policy and procedure Recommendations with that stakeholder involvement Then they review the implementation of those policies procedures or practices that can be recommended So we've had three meetings so far first one was on May 30th. We met at the Bob Bowen Public Safety Center And first we just went around and introduced the attendees I gave a little bit of information about each one and why they were selected But then allowed them to tell why they were passionate about being on this board and what they hoped to bring to the board and To actually get from being on the board One thing we determined was not every meeting had to be a Bob Bowen We want to make sure that we are going out into the community Going to their places of business their houses of worship different community venues where we actually get outside of our own Silo and get out in the community with them We discussed a lot of polity policies But not just the policies as they're written but the perceptions of the community Because no matter how a policy may be written the perceptions in the community may be different and that's something we have to address Because discussed our general orders to kind of give them a sense of the operations of the department That's going to take several sessions to cover. It's about 500 plus pages And we also invited the board members of future meetings to come and give presentations on their areas of expertise And areas they think that that could apply to the forward police department and our policies and procedures These are the areas of focus for the meeting general orders training and I was training of the board But also training of our officers The goals and needs of the department and then we just opened it up for hot topics and current events Our next meeting was June 29th One thing we determined there was the frequency of the meetings We want to meet at least quarterly but we determined starting out We need to meet at least monthly to make sure we keep the momentum going to make sure we get the training and the onboarding Done in a reasonable amount of time So we'll be meeting on the third Monday of each month at 6 p.m We went over the general orders again, and then we also moved into our five-year strategic plan Both of which are also available online for anyone who would like to see those Last meeting was just last night continued on the general orders and the strategic five-year strategic plan, but we also discussed some more community topics Police topics and we talked about the schedule for their training This is one topic that came up over and over again when we talked about issues They wanted to see discussed as far as our policies and the way we deal with the community It came back to homelessness. So one of our first training sessions will be on homelessness in Fort Worth We're going to have members of our homeless outreach team our hope unit there to be part of the discussion But also have Lauren King who again is with Tarrant County homeless coalition to host that discussion Again everything comes back to our mission and The partnership with the community and creating a safe environment is something we hope to establish with the community advisory board And those three words at the bottom Accountability collaboration and transparency is what we're achieving I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any questions for chief No, go ahead go ahead Jeanette I Just I'd like the opportunity to point somebody to the board would that be possible I Would open discussions with any member of council about additional members to the board So I'd love to set something up and speak with you Any other questions council go ahead Carlos chief cover for us again when you when you Re-approach the cab One of the things that I was looking for is how you were going to approach it from the Police staffing side of things we saw the community members. Can you give us a little more? Information on what that looks like on the police staffing side of that That's a great question council member. So when we looked at the prior board It was called the policy advisory committee when it was originally created It was very heavy on police participation and rather light on community representation So this time we want to make sure the group itself reflected the intent of the group in the first place So the only three members of the police department that have been in any meetings or myself and a deputy chief Buck Wheeler and we were actually going to announce this at a later meeting But I'll tell you now deputy chief formerly commander Monica Martin the deputy chief Monica Monica Martin is in there as well So myself those two deputy chiefs are the only police representatives and the reason we do that Command I'm sorry deputy chief Wheeler has been involved in training for years and years And he's very intelligent as a great job connecting with people and explaining topics He engages with people really well deputy chief Martin is exactly the same way She's able to engage with people talk about topics in a way that people want to hear what she has to say She's very intelligent and also very well informed. So between the three of us That is the only representation. We've had at any meetings The only time you will see additional representation from the department is when there is a request for certain type of training It may involve our department and then we may have officers there They can either help facilitate that training or be a part of the training program I Just another follow-up question How do you see this body Working with opum, you know one question could be is there a member from the opum office? President any meeting? How do you see this working in a respect one thing we discussed yesterday actually I asked the group I said when bone seal our new monitor arrives I said I would like to be able to bring her in let her talk with the group Ask any questions you have and find out a little more about her position and what she brings to the table And they are all about that and when she's there and determines what that should look like as far as the opums participation We welcome having them there in every meeting if they chose so Chris okay, thank you, mayor. I do have a couple questions. I will just mention Two counts woman Jeanette Martinez, I think she wasn't here when we took the vote in November But once we bring that back up you have the opportunity to select somebody of your choice on that board If we're able to get that pass I do want to ask a couple of questions and your when I looked at the What this group would be doing one thing I did not see was discussion of If there is an incident that takes place critically in the city of Fort Worth, I know you mentioned complaints are Condemnation on one of those slides, but with I'm sorry Okay, okay. Thank you. I believe this may Cover what what you're asking one of the things we open up in every meeting any hot topics or current events And we open that up last night anything that may have occurred with the Ford Police Department the city in general They want to talk about It's it's open. We'll talk about any issues. They would like to discuss Okay, so in your recent two meetings, I think you had in I guess well in June you wouldn't talk about it But in this last meeting did the hot topics come up for what happened the week for the July? Yes, there were some brief discussions about that. Okay, and so Going back to Councilman Flora's question, so I think when we talked about Again, I bring this up I think you brought this board back because of the conversation we had about the oversight board This was a board that we had discussed bringing back anyway We had the sure what was called the chief's advisory board which continued with stalls a bit during COVID This policy advisory committee just kind of falling off There was talks to bring that back anyway, but it did happen right around the time of the review board recommendation, right And so one of the questions I think that came up during that review cycle was The participation of your command staff and I think Carlos just asked that question but I think it would be important that It is written in I guess whatever your policy and procedures is Which of those command staff will attend those meetings on a regular basis so that we as a council know and the community know So maybe that be a person they can reach out to in the mix of Meetings when they're not meeting or regular community members can reach out to those individuals who are a part of that group Okay, I think you mentioned officer Martin and officer We will wheeler, which is great Is there is there a mechanism for those who sit on your board to call a meeting or will If something takes place or will it just be on that third Monday until further notice You know, it's actually a really good question They're as far as having a mechanism in place that's something we ought to work on because we told them if they had any issues If they wanted to call a meeting because there was something so pressing in the community They did not want to wait till the next regularly scheduled meeting that we could do that But that's something we need to work into our policies to make it standardized Okay, another thing in the process of revamping the oversight board one of the things that the community was asking for is public Connection so say first you have your meeting and some of those meetings need to be private But as any of your meetings throughout the year can be public where Other community members can come and sit in in those means that you have we don't have any plans to make the meetings public But we have discussed having having forums to discuss the community advisory board and to get some more citizen input from time to time Okay I think that was the question I have. Thank you. Thank you Keltner, rebeck. Uh, yeah, can you tell me because it there definitely seems to be some changes made to the The duties of this board from the last time that you brought it to us. I believe there wasn't Those are actually the same slides even the the received complaints and commendations concerning forward law enforcement was that on the previous that this was I think Maybe was it six months ago? It was a while ago the last it's been a while ago when I made This presentation. It was based off the prior. So these these slides should be the same I guess it's possible that there's some changes, but there were any intentional changes. No, it's okay I could I could misremember as well. Um Leads to my next question I see that some of the advisory board members were members of the race and culture task force And so as you were developing this particular advisory board What feedback did you get from the folks that That chose to serve on this board that were on the race and culture task force and What feedback did you get from any community members that? That you extended the the invitation to join this board from there were some that decided they wouldn't want to join Right away Some say that they did not want to join because they felt that might hinder the opportunity to have the Citizen review board which they wanted to see as well And they quite frankly there were some that that agreed to join but after Seeing a meeting here and hearing some backlash from the community didn't want to be a part of it because they feared community backlash Backlash for their service or backlash for the board. Yeah, both for their service on the board And did they indicate why they felt like there would be community backlash? Well, it was and you can summarize it for me It was what they saw on the reporting about one of the meetings here and some of the comments from some of the community and then some Comments not publicized but just among community members And some of the people who were asked they're dealings with certain groups who were against this And they dealt with them in the past and they didn't want to deal with them anymore. Okay, that's fair So with the the stated goal of this is to create a more transparent fair and equitable police department I appreciate you doing that because any step forward is all obviously a great step Do you think that this answers the community's call for what they were looking for when it comes to transparency? Within the forward police department It depends on who you ask in the community some would say yes some would say no And some of those people that you called it asked right some said yes some said no Yes, and there's actually some on the board who were for the civilian review board And that's one of the topics they want to discuss in the meeting. Okay, perfect. Thank you I have one more question. Councilor nettles. This board will it replace the I know you have a pastors group Yes, it will not replace. Okay. Okay. Good. Thank you, chief. Thank you Any other questions for chief? No Thanks for the update chief. We appreciate it Okay council, that's the last of our presentations And we'll ask now requests for future agenda items or reports needed by council Surely y'all got a list you've been waiting to get to david House member crane Nothing. Wow You oh you do. I've got two things um one In light of some of the other things going on I'd like to know top five An IRR on medical directors who they report to in emergency services And and I'm I'm just putting this together top five Maybe cities in the metroplex and maybe top cities and top 10 cities in texas who they report to and what that looks like I know we're going to talk about some other things, but I think that's some information We can get before any other studies are done And the second item is given a light of changing economy and other things. I'd like to know Citywide what contracts we have in place that were originally over five years long And and so what they were when they originally went into effect How many years are left on those contracts and what the ultimate contract cost was at that time? Yeah, I don't imagine there's many but it'd be nice to know when we're looking at budget and things Okay, any other future gen items for council? Yeah, I have one. I've already sent the email But as it relates to repairs to uh water meters are shutting off water meters on a friday to commercial businesses churches And residential, uh, how does that policy works and looks and if it needs to be changed They can't get access to water until monday I'd like to bird dog on that. I'd like for us to also Include in that report requested by councilmember nettles What audiences or what circumstances have to exist to prevent a shutoff? Because when I was with with on-court if we had your your information that you were on oxygen We wouldn't shut you down people thought that we knew but are there any instances that water will not be terminated during your it's really critical weather incidents is what we called it Thank you. Any other questions jenette go ahead Well, that could be something that just be added when they're registering for water services if they need to upload any documentation for You know health conditions. I would assume that would be a quick implementation anybody else Elizabeth did you have one or no? I miss you Go ahead. Okay. I think that's all. Thank you all very much and meeting is adjourned