 What do you think like what are the things that you look for when you identify a star? Like what are the qualities of a star? Yo, I learned that with pop. Like I didn't know I learned a lot of stuff dealing with pop like I used to think yeah, you got bars you lit you should get signed cuz you rap it You got punch lines. I used to think that was the shit You feel me then when I met bro bro said Same thing probably every other song, but it's how he said it and how he made people feel he had little kids Third graders chasing them. He had second graders with a braids like him Chasing them in the street grown man with a braids You feel me had gangsters dancing. Mm-hmm. You know I'm saying yeah people changing a voice to regular to deep Start you got a son. I'm like that. So that's my brother. So yeah How what are some New York artists now and I can list off a few maybe we could do it that way But what are some New York artists now that you feel like have that star quality? Like who would you call a star that's coming out of New York right now, right right now? Mm-hmm You know who I think got this. It's a few of them. Yo, honestly all these kids They could be stars in their own Type of world they just not these kids a lot of kids man They just miss like they don't got the right guidance. You know, I mean like they get their deals and shit. It's cool, but It's a lot of them. I don't see they got that right person in the studios Telling them like you're not I'll do that like you'll switch up the beat get on a different vibe Now don't don't don't say don't rap about smoking on nobody today. Let's let's rap about money and chicks Oh shit. They don't got that. So they just be in the studio put the beat on and just But I think Dougie Dougie I think Dougie's a star he just Bro just be dealing with a lot of life situations, but I think if he could clear his shit up Bro cut like Dougie could really I Could shake he could shake New York up man. I was the energy. He got his personality a lot of these kids It's very infectious and you can tell that he loves what he does And they do it for the wrong reasons kind of tell like what you were saying when you said that when you first started producing You were doing it for the bag and not because you're doing it for the right reasons I feel like a lot of artists now they see What a lot of other artists are getting or what they think that a lot of artists are getting and they're doing it because they Want to get the money and want to get the cloud the attention but not because they actually want to do I feel like somebody like Dougie you could tell that he really really Yeah, and that's the talk of the town make sure you like calm and subscribe and make sure you check out our website at www.talkofthetownshow.com