 Like we just can't dive. Oh, we're live. Okay. We get that Me media see that worked All right here we Are gonna go Yes, hi, I'd like to place an order for download Can I have the daily tech news show dinner special without the ads not even on the side? And can I get that downloaded every weekday, please? Great. I'll be supporting with patreon.com Slash ace detect. Thank you This is the daily tech news for Thursday October 22nd 2015 on Tom married joining me today On a Thursday has got intended mr. Chestin Robert Young DTNS contributor. How are you tech news going up on a Thursday? We are having a great time here in Portland, Oregon Is the spirit of the 1890s still alive? I never died Tom. They never died. Thank goodness. What is that? Hamilton with no wait not Hamilton Which which president was it was dealing with the surplus that the US was fighting and then in the 18 never mind Write your emails now kid Hamilton was a federalist. He was in the 1700 and a great musical as well. Let's get up to the headlines Instagram has a new standalone app called boomerang that captures a one-second burst of five photos that it then stitches together As a four-second video saved to the camera roll the video will play all five shots forward then backward and then loop a few times Hence the name boomerang because it keeps coming back You don't need to log in you can shoot with a phone's front or back facing camera videos can be shared anywhere Because it saves it to your camera roll though It's easiest to move them to Instagram and Facebook because they've got buttons for that right there in the app boomerang is available for iOS and Android Right now Big question is where do we want these kinds of functionality apples built some of it with the photo burst Into the camera itself. We haven't really seen a lot of hyperlapse adoption or at least I haven't anecdotally in my Stream Twitter has obviously had more success with like the vine standalone application I don't necessarily think that this is something that will take true You know really light on fire, but I just don't know where these all seem like applications that don't have The right home yet. I have been told by the children of the world that Instagram very popular and And so I think any little widget that Instagram wants to throw out there for free like this probably isn't a bad idea GIF like things GIF like things You know, I was able to make that Animated image of my dog looking like he was doing the two-step today, which I never would have wanted to do otherwise well Hopefully it suffers the or enjoys the same success as the Eddie movie Eddie Murphy movie for which it was named Facebook has It's search to show us English language users anything from its two trillion posts Including public posts by all people and pages not just ones you friend it or linked the results will be personalized and broken up in the Trusted news people in your network most popular links or quotes and things from strangers Yeah, so that trusted news thing is what they're after here They're trying to widen their search make people spend more time in Facebook and particularly combat the Perception that Twitter is the place you go to learn news not Facebook It is so funny as they both reach out to each other and try to become each other's services Slowly by slowly feature by feature from Twitter moments on one end of the spectrum To this trusted news feature which you've got a figure Facebook has more of a inability to maybe bring to liven up its its its Timestream, which also they want more and more to you for you to not just think is the breeding ground for all of your mom's Friends who want to let you know about the Benghazi hearing. Yeah, I I I think I might not be too far off the mainstream here Even though I often am especially with social networks. I get news from Twitter by reading Twitter and then seeing news Right, it's not the other way around. I don't say I need to catch up on the news Let me pick up Twitter and there may be some people to do that But I don't think the vast majority of them do so that's the problem I have here is Facebook saying let's get you to search something in order to get the news And we put news up at the top. It just doesn't seem natural to me Now why wouldn't this be better as a standalone app like Facebook breaking news wherein you already Authorize it. It may be as based as a very message Heavy Kind of application that will always reroute you back into the app But that seems to me like something that you can maybe break out a little bit Well, and that is an element of paper which I think people may have forgotten about but that's a Facebook app That sort of gives you paper is the new Dropbox No, no, you're thinking of the illustration tool from 535 I'm talking about actually. I don't know 535 is the right publisher, but yeah There are a million things in paper, but no paper has an element of that like get the news side of Facebook And I wonder if this will help improve that although I also don't know if Facebook is focusing on encouraging people to use that paper app anymore No, it doesn't look like it TechCrunch reports German financial tech startup number 26 is partnering with cash payment network Bross by probably Bart Sollen to allow people to withdraw and deposit cash at cash registers in 3,000 grocery stores drugstores and other retail outlets in Germany You just show up at the register you enter the amount of cash in the app scan a barcode enter a pin boom If you're making a deposit that deposit should show up in your account immediately 50,000 people in Germany and Austria have signed up for a number 26 account So there's a few people probably gonna try this out Paul Ferrat posted that a trusted source says Microsoft Windows 10 fall update code named Threshold 2 We'll release in November Updates will include UI fixes and improved media creation tool new features for Cortana and updates to the edge browser Although browser add-ons won't ship until 2016 the update will not require reactivation of on installation and upgrades from Windows 7 or above can upgrade directly to the fall update This is the the first service pack like Update, I don't know if it's exactly equivalent to that whether it's quite that big But this is the first big update since Windows 10 launched And I do personally find it encouraging that they're saying look if you haven't upgraded to Windows 10 yet Once this update pushes you'll just update to it like you would a service pack This it's essential to see how they handle this sort of thing as they evolve into software as a service Where you don't buy Windows anymore. You just use it It's it's very interesting and seems a little user-friendly, you know this this I swear You know you just drop in if this really were The day as we now recover from the hangover a back to the future day to drop in and see this version of Microsoft for Somebody who just followed the company in the late 90s is just a different world. Yeah, especially all the Linux Like we don't we don't think it's particularly impressive like oh, yeah Okay, so they're using the Linux on Azure and in here and there the idea of Microsoft being associated with Linux in any way Yeah, we've just blown people away in that late 90s era CNBC reports Huawei's phone shipments jumped 81% becoming the number one phone shipper in China Not gonna show me down to number two Canalists which estimates the shipping numbers said I shouldn't said it's gonna bounce back Smartphone shipments overall in China fell 2.7% especially among phones priced less than $200 and that's where Xiaomi operates Meanwhile phones priced between $200 and $500 rose 22% and that's the market Huawei has been moving into it's also probably good news for Apple One more Mac submitted the TechCrunch report that YouTube Confirmed any creator who earns ad revenue But does not agree to the terms of the new YouTube red subscription platform will have their videos hidden from public view If you're like hey Justin that sounds familiar. Yeah, we did report this yesterday Also, we reported it in April and when YouTube music key Launched they did the exact same thing, but some people are still pretty mad. Also Tom's wife works for YouTube So you you definitely do not have to take anything I have to say on this matter To heart especially because Eileen worked on the announcement yesterday But I don't I feel like this is the kind of thing where I don't know what else YouTube could have done If they want to provide a commercial free service allowing some creators to still have commercials Even if you're paying wouldn't work And so the the other the thing that they should do which they haven't from what I've been able to tell is say Well, you know what if you're monetizing on the platform And you don't like these new terms where you have to take subscription revenue as well as advertising revenue then Just you can turn off your monetization. It seems like there's kind of it's kind of like you're trapped You either accept the new terms or your your videos all go non-public which that's kind of crappy So there should be a way to back out of it and say, you know what I want to keep my channel I want to keep it public. I just don't like these terms anymore. So I'm gonna undo monetization And that that's what I think YouTube should offer A lot of people are worried that they're not gonna make as much money off the subscription service My thought is on that or if YouTube didn't think it was going to make as much money off the subscriptions as it's making off Advertising they wouldn't be making this gamble. I don't think Especially when advertising is the bread and butter of Google Yes That I don't know whether or not that is something that should You know calm the troubled mind of a YouTube creator who has that worry because you know Road to hell best laid plans and all that That being said what I am curious about is whether or not this move would have been made in this way for which I mean announcement first Dealing with the fallout and consequences afterward and not a email to all creators saying like, you know Maybe soft peddling this or offering some kind of sweetener or something If products like vessel had possibly done better and gotten wider adoption It doesn't seem anecdotally like vessel is as taken off the world. We haven't really heard them crow about Earnings in the last few months. So it's it's interesting that now that YouTube has kind of seen the landscape of Non-YouTube revenue opportunities for creators become a little bit mature and yet they are still in this in indispensable You have to wonder. Well now where are you going to go? You know if you're another creator you kind of have to agree to this Well, I don't know this agree just just just a fact that sheds light on what you're saying YouTube sent the agreement to creators in April So there's been time for there to be a movement or anger to really turn out and it turns out 99% of the creators Just signed it maybe grumbling Yeah, but most of them signed it So and and that may be because of what you're talking about. I'm just saying like it's not like they popped it on the creators yesterday No, no, no, no and and also you're never going to get a Populous wide agreement on something like this on a platform as diverse as YouTube Everybody from the lady who plays with Disney toys and only shows her hands to cutie pie to somebody who started Yesterday to OMG Chad Everybody has to agree on the same thing and that's never going to happen. Yeah Two studies from the University of Utah in partnership with the American automobile Association found it takes up to 27 seconds For a driver to regain full concentration on driving after giving a voice command Some systems are a little better, but it still takes at least nine seconds Study was conducted using 10 cars released this year covering Siri Google now and Cortana voice activation systems the in vehicle information system study included 257 people and the smartphone personal assistance study had 65 participants Participants drove a car at 25 miles per hour on a 2.7 mile route in Salt Lake City's avenues neighborhood Which makes me wonder what the people of the avenues thought but okay. Yeah, they thought Everybody steer clear make sure that you just order pizza and don't go pick it up. Yeah you know These stories always make me wonder Yes, that is a quantifiable set of time for which is troubling to look at data-wise, but You would I you I can't help but wonder whether or not If we have been doing these studies for years if we would be saying oh my god We're down to only nine seconds of distraction To do do do things while people are in the car because people have always Focused on maps and and everything else even if we get outside of the kind of villain of the day like texting and Smartphones and stuff like we have been doing these studies for years and I can't remember the exact second amount But we were we covered one on buzz out loud that said hands-free Voice talking in a car reduced your reaction time about the same amount as alcohol and it was less than nine seconds in that case so if In that and I'd want to look at that study before I I made too many assertions But that would point to us getting worse at the way All right, so this is voice activated. This is us talking to the car saying Play audible or you know skip the song or yeah Yeah, exactly the other study that I mentioned from years ago was People actually having a conversation on the phone. So they're not exactly. It's a little bit apples and oranges there Well, yeah, I mean I guess is you are The the I guess the thought is is there a cost to doing more with your car an internet connected car With your voice then just doing with your hands Well, I think we are under the false impression that the Distracting thing about using a phone using a phone totally the old man when it comes to driving a car We're driving a car. I believe you should do one thing drive the car You can listen to the radio. You can have a chat with the person next to you I think that's okay because the person next to you also sees everything around you and is more likely to shut up if Somebody runs in front of you or even alert you to something when you're talking on the phone You're talking to somebody who has no awareness of what else is going on in the car and it distracts you and and so far Studies have borne that out Also get off Tom's law Skyboard 13 sent us the EW report that after 14 seasons 2,950 experiments Mythbusters the legendary series is coming to an end host Adam Savage and Jamie Heineman say they have planned out an awesome final run final season starts January 9th 2016 undiscovery and the science channel where it will air every previous episode of mythbusters ever in a marathon beginning December 23rd all good things come to an end Well, and this is something that's been coming for a little bit 14 seasons budget And and and you know letting go of staff and stuff for a few years now They have they have done an admirable job of keeping this show an admirable job Absolutely Reuters reports the European Court of Justice ruled Thursday that exchanges of digital currencies like Bitcoin for traditional currencies So in other words a Bitcoin for a euro should be exempt from consumption tax That means no that should be applied to conversion of Bitcoin into other currencies Ruling came in response to Swedish tax authorities saying it should not be exempt Yeah, European Court of Justice says no it's exempt in opposition to that The US IRS has previously ruled that Bitcoin should be treated as property for tax purposes Which is kind of a weird way of doing it because you can still 1099 it and you have to fill out a W2 I guess if you got paid in houses the same would be changed Would be true as well, but in Europe they're saying nope no taxes when you're moving Bitcoin around for money That's really interesting. I am really curious to see where we settle on stuff like this Yeah, and when I say the IRS says it should be treated like property. That's the IRS We still don't have the Department of Treasury or the Supreme Court Really coming down with a firm ruling on is Bitcoin or any other digital currency a currency or a commodity IRS is treating it like a commodity for now Yeah, and that's the IRS just coming up with I mean the IRS needs rules because they have to process the taxes every single year So they just need to come up with something You know, you know, I I would like to see cryptocurrencies have enjoy a little bit more of Of a free reign, but at the same time I can't imagine the headaches that are caused by something like that Yeah, and by the way the department when I say the Department of Treasury hasn't ruled finally I'm not saying they haven't ever ruled. They've actually been fairly Friendly to Bitcoin and Bitcoin miners and such and the IRS is part of the Department of Treasury I just mean we haven't settled it every we haven't like the law is now said and we all know how to treat digital currency Well, I'm considering how a stable and understood Bitcoin is in general, you know You can imagine taking a prudent hands-off approach might not be the worst thing of the world The interactive advertising Bureau reports that in the first half of 2015 online ads generated fourteen point three billion dollars in revenue of twenty two point five percent year of a year Combining Q1 and Q2 revenue was twenty seven point five billion up nineteen percent growth year over year This is the sixth consecutive year of double digit first half year growth Revenue growth continues to be driven by mobile non-mobile video and social advertising spending so If you hear people in the advertising world bemoaning ad blockers Sure, could this be better without ad blockers? Sure. Why not? But it's not like things are a disaster right now for digital advertising But the big fear was ad blockers coming to mobile on iOS Here's your benchmark. Here's here's what they here's what the advertising is now In the very earliest days of ad blockers with ad blockers on iOS haven't had any impact yet So there we've planted this flag. We'll check in in another quarter or so Well, you know, you have to worry about markets though and and whether or not people are moving to online and mobile Advertising and social media advertising fast enough before tools are developed to disrupt it Look at music sales online that that by the time that the labels fully kind of got all in on music sales and Negotiated deals that they liked with gigantic retailers like Apple We were already well into the Pandora Ardeo spotify Apple music Sea change where now those sales started being eroded, you know compared in a very relatively very short window after you know record sales and album sales and CD sales kind of fell apart so for Advertising I think what they worry about with ad block is like. Yeah. No, it's going. Well, we hope it continues to go Well and continues to grow. That's a perfectly reasonable way of putting it It's not the way I always hear it put though Occasionally you will hear people saying digital advertising is is being destroyed and it's not that doesn't mean ad blocking Isn't a isn't a significant concern is Justin saying Certainly, it's not again. It's not the death. No, it's just something that they need to be concerned about. Yeah All right speaking of money Let's finish up with the revenue of 18.68 billion and adjusted earnings per share of $7 and 35 cents per share That beat expectations of 18.53 billion and earnings per share of $7 and 21 cents This is alphabets first quarter as a company never been around to get before But the company is almost identical to Google of a year ago Which reported 16.52 billion gross revenue and earnings per share of $6 and 35 cents. Oh Earnings past the mic. My name is Justin Amazon took all those grumpy analysts out back and beat the margins out of their Expectations Amazon reported 25.4 billion in net sales and earnings of 17 cents a share Analysts had predicted a loss of 13 cents a share on sales of a poultry 24.91 billion you AWS was one of the bright spots jumping 78% Year over year. There's gold in them of our servers. I I think I saw one of the analysts late at night crying at his desk And hot new startup Microsoft generated 67 cents a share of adjusted profit off non-gap revenue of 21.66 billion dollars That beat analyst expectations of 59 cents a share and 21.03 billion The division that is largely made up of Microsoft office was down 3% year over year though office itself added 3 million subs Cloud was up 14% pretty much carried the company and the windows and gaming division not Surprisingly down in this quarter about 17% their big quarter will be coming up. There you go three earnings all beaten analysts expectations like they're the New York Mets and Daniel Murphy is cloud service Process absolutely and that my friends is the headlines Hey, if you want to say why didn't you cover this story do it at daily tech news show dot subreddit dot com That's where we go. I'm sorry daily tech news show dot reddit dot com That's where we go to look and see like okay. What are the things are out there that maybe we missed What are the things that people are interested in or a bunch of people voting something up daily tech news show dot reddit dot com That's the headlines There was an interesting story in the Guardian this morning about Arsenal the football club In England they call it soccer here in the United States starting to Really double down on analytics and big data Arsenal bought stat DNA the US based football data analytics company with a massive workforce in East Asia for 2.165 million pounds in December 2012 now the interesting thing is that stat DNA was formed in 2009 and their CEO Jason Rosenfeld is also the co-founder of digital divide data Digital divide data employs 500 disadvantaged people in their operating centers in Cambodia and Laos as part of a bridging the digital divide employing people Getting them to work Those folks act as stat DNA's operations partner. So It's data, but it's data being logged in many cases by viewers looking at a play and saying What was the was their follow-through on that kick? You know what what position were they in as they made the goal then that data is subject to the algorithms and the analytics Arsenal kind of is real secretive about stat DNA Justin They only ever referred to it as a OH USA LLC the a OH stand for Arsenal overseas holding Well this is an interesting story on two levels Interesting as a big data story and interesting as a sports story the sports story has gotten no shortage of coverage You know in fact the coverage has been so large We've had a movie nominated for an Academy Award with money ball in the idea of Stats in baseball, but the money ball I mean, and I know it was more complex than this book They implied like ooh, we're putting numbers into spreadsheets now and look at trends We're talking about you know 500 people crunching videos turning them in to data storing them on huge servers running algorithms looking for Anything that you can find About anything you want to look at for one of these examples They said you want to know all passes by Lionel Messi that were unsuccessful boom touch of a button Well, but this is all All right, so baseball was the first to enjoy the numbers revolution because it is easy to identify Where people are affecting the game, but it's very it's very discreet in as far as numbers go It's not a free-flowing game Exactly because essentially baseball is a long series of one-on-one plays Tied together as a team sport what you've seen in basketball football and soccer is a far more sophisticated way to collect this data to understand okay in Soccer maybe it was the half-back who set up that pass that Really led to that goal being scored and it wasn't necessarily the striker who put his foot on the ball and kicked it into the net in basketball you have seen Tremendous steps forward with the sport few cameras which have been installed in all arenas Throughout the league that at all times have six cameras that capture every single movement on the court And then you have people pour through it and say okay Well, this was a successful pass from Gerald green to Hassan white side and that demonstrates that Gerald green has a Higher than average success rate and and from there You've seen entire teams turn over their personnel operations like the Memphis Grizzlies did the John Hollinger a online columnist for ESPN who invented the PER stat To basically say hey Now you decide who's a good basketball player and who's a bad basketball player and tell our coach Who they should play and who they shouldn't which has you know again? And this is something we don't really need to get into but gets into the age-old like don't you be telling me about numbers? I I know this sport I've coached it for 20 years Well, yeah, I was talking to our producer Jenny before the show She's like it's basically witchcraft that has been practiced in sports Like I just look into his eyes, and I know that he's ready to go for the game Versus big big data analytics, which is essentially the same thing powering Google now to to suggest a restaurant or a route home Can say hey, we have an even more limited pool of people to work with so we can make really personalized recommendations Because you can track every single thing these people do it's not like they'll use another browser And we'll we'll get gaps in their data. They're on the court. We're tracking them Now the league sometimes don't cooperate the NFL won't let you put GPS trackers on players yet But they're softening up on that FIFA now allows monitoring in the game Tennis's ITF allows sensor equipped rackets So there's a swim team that I read about that Actually uses sleep trackers to find out like who's freshest for for the races for the swim meets the next day It's you can get all the data you want out of these players and then crunch it and figure out And you don't even have to look at the players anymore. You can say oh our gap is in speed and Scoring from the corners so find find me players that are available in off-contract that have speed and going for the corners Let's go acquire them now the danger with stuff like this is that we are never going to be where we want to be data-wise and As any numbers person will tell you Many times bad data is worse than no data because it makes you build Assumptions based on what you think to be scientifically accurate Of a scientific typically accurate path forward when really it is leading you down a permerous path to hell And and you have seen that in a lot of teams that have put together Very good Analytics-based teams and yet have not gelled in the way that you might hope them to to make a good winning success Because I didn't look up in the eyes Well, I mean and there and that of course re-infermed you know reaffirms is like well Yeah, I could have told you that this person does this and this person does that but What I'm curious Tom is what's next where do we take if we now understand that? you know taking the the crazy number geeks magazine Column seriously like like Billy Bean did in moneyball Then begets people inventing their own formulas and and being hired as executives as like John Hollinger and Bill James both have and now It's a team trying to buy big data companies so they can exclusively Have that information and keep it away from their competitors is the future the the big data taking over not only personnel Acquisition and personnel decision-making But in game decisions if you see via a GPS tracker and the fact that Dwayne Wade didn't get a good night's sleep last night that maybe he needs to come out Earlier in the second quarter than he normally would and maybe he needs to be rested for the next two games Even though he says he's ready to play and Eric's polstra would otherwise put him in do those In-game decisions start to be affected by our ability to collect this kind of data. Yeah I mean and you know coach says the pitchers tired Coach bot says the pitcher has 12 more pitches left You know which which coach do you go with is it the pitching coach has been doing this all his life for the coach bot? Who is statistically accurate most of the time? And and I think you're I think you hit on the biggest problem with this earlier, which is You're still dealing with a limited pool of information One of the reasons Google now can be better is because it has all of the users of Google using yeah If you're just looking at the players in the NBA or you're just looking at the players in the English Premier League And you're then you're just trying to apply that to your players and your players this season The statistical ability to predict becomes harder and harder Dallas Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle, which by the way Mavericks owned by Mark Cuban big proponent of tech obviously and big data Said before last year. We're going to be a better team this year. We know that by the analytics He was right the Dallas Mavericks went from eighth place to seventh place and went from a record of 49 and 33 to a record of 50 and 32 Well, and that was last year, right? Yeah, so so he he said will be a better team this year and they were a better team by one win Well, and this is a very interesting case because the Dallas Mavericks were a fantastic team through the first half of the year and then Based on what they believed numbers wise They thought they could make a championship acquisition by bringing in Ray Jean Rondo from the the Boston Celtics This was disastrous for them It completely broke up their their fast break offense It was it sunk their season and Rajan Rondo was effectively cut from the team unofficially Before they were even eliminated from the playoffs making it a gigantic trade failure for them So this was an example of where they thought the data was leading them in a good way in in a good position And yet it wound up sabotaging their season and the big question I'm not saying I have an answer but the big question is Do they just need more data? Do they just need to refine the algorithms, you know Which could could be a perfectly reasonable thing to say like well, we thought that would work We were wrong where we're finding the algorithms that now that we have more data We can see a projection that would have told us that this was the wrong move or is it the kind of thing where? You know, you can have all the data in the world and you just can't always accurately predict you There are just so many intangibles as they say in sports that you just can't get the confidence rating out of there It's some of it just has to be done by instinct. Well beyond any of the intangibles on whether or not somebody is a great three-point shooter But they also are a mal content behind the scenes or they don't get a good night's sleep because they party too much At the end of the day all sports is there are in G machines, you know, and you can have You can have projections and you can guess but they are always going to be probabilities And you never know where that dice is gonna land Well, and and this this I'm going to stray Validly into sports territory a little bit here or folks who don't like sports. I apologize We've been trying to keep it about data and how it applies to human beings But one thing about sports that I have noticed is that it used to be You would try to figure out how to play enough games to determine who is the best team, right? And in those days you had a league of teams You played a hundred and fifty four games and the team with the best record was considered the best team And that seemed fairly statistically accurate like okay Yeah, if they were able over that amount of time to consistently win, they must be the best team That's not what the playoffs are about now in sports The playoffs now are about creating a story If you wanted to determine who was the best team in NFL football, you wouldn't have one game eliminates you in The playoffs right you want to create drama for sports. It's about it's a it's like you say it's RNG and the need to create a story Well, and and let's be fair as I'm sure our our European listeners are our raging, you know against their their iPods and iPhones and and androids that This is an American sports issue the English Premier League awards their Their championship to the team that wins the the the regular season as we have in America The the playoff fascination is is a is a fairly uniquely American obsession Well, I don't know about that World Cup still has that I mean you have pool play as a as a nod But that is a special in the way that that the UEFA Champions League in other words It's a tournament to to decide the best team in the world that goes for the drama, frankly Now we're getting into some other way It wouldn't make any money and you wouldn't be able to afford all of these big data companies You have to hire to be able to win Yeah And if you're FIFA you wouldn't be able to get countries to bribe you at the dollar amount that they're normally used Oh wouldn't be a special there's that too Okay, our pick of the day Jeff here from no longer sweltering Dallas sent us a science pick for the show He writes PBS digital studios distributes through YouTube an excellent show called PBS Spacetime produced by Comhobber Brown each 10 to 15 minute episode explores fascinating topics on astrophysics and Quantum mechanics ranging from the whimsical such as calculating the acceleration due to gravity in Super Mario world To the truly detailed and dense such as the true meaning of the curvature of spacetime and what really happens inside a black hole Now Jeff says the host keeps the math out of it explaining everything in lay people's terms and new episodes are released weekly All episodes can be viewed for free on YouTube. Just search for the channel PBS spacetime It's like if you wanted something even more in depth than cosmos and you want it all the time sounds like that's what you Want to look for PBS spacetime such amazing stuff being created it just never ceases to amaze me How much awesome amazing polish top-tier work floats out there for free these days Send your picks to us feedback at daily tech news show comm you can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks Jason from Seattle. Okay, actually Redmond says I'm frankly surprised actually says I'm frankly quite surprised Which might be over putting it? I'm frankly quite surprised Patrick Beja wasn't all over the difference between megabytes and Megabytes since it derives directly from actions taken by the fine folks who protect system international aka the metric system also known as the French No, the French Patrick if he were here would probably say not all French, but he in his email, which I will keep in full in our show notes Jason explains the difference between a power of 10 and a power of two One megabyte according to SI is one million bytes according to memory manufacturers It's one million forty eight thousand five hundred seventy six bytes hence the confusion hence the determination Thus the invention of K.I.M.I.G.I.T.I Which have the computer useful definitions based on powers of two so that when you say a megabyte it means a million forty eight thousand five hundred seventy six bytes So there you go. Thank you Jason. It's all the French if you wonder why we have megabytes Do you think Jason is meaning to embarrass Patrick by that? I Think that some people get really really really excited about numbers Yeah, well that's and that goes right back to our sports story and all the analytics Bill James Billy Bean You're gonna arsenal Yeah, they're gunning for statistical accuracy I've all I've always supported Newcastle in English primarily for no other reason that I enjoy their beer. Yeah I think I'm thinking to switch and support. I've actually always liked arsenal there really a bunch of friends Went and did a semester abroad in London that I visited them for and they all became Arsenal fans randomly and so I've always kind of had a soft spot in my heart for for arsenal It's just a matter of a you know waking up to watch those games Yeah, kind of brutal on the West Coast you can do some Saturday morning stuff depending on when they are though That's it. It's a nice little I don't know it's it's hard to get into but the one thing that soccer has English Premier League as this will be the last Sports point I'll make I swear people is that it is always going to be two hours It won't be longer. It's not gonna randomly last five hours like a playoff baseball game It's not gonna randomly be a three and a half hours like a football game It will always be two hours no matter what and that is really rad about soccer Yeah, it's the greatest innovation in in worldwide sports Hey folks if you liked the sound of Justin and I talking about sports But you didn't necessarily like to have to have any sports content in it Instead like maybe take out the sports content and substitute science fiction and fantasy content head on over to FSL tonight calm We're Justin Robert Young and I host a made-up show about Sports being played by people from Mordor and Alderaan in places like that You know, it's it's one of the true joys in my life to do FSL tonight with Tom if even just because it is for both of us the 97 thousandth project that we have to do in any given week and we both kind of come into it But like oh, man, we got to do FSL We got to do FSL and then just end it laughing and falling off our chairs because it is such a joy to do We have a good time doing it. 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She's like just shut up tom I'm a fan of Taylor Swift or drink. Oh, that was me. I'm sorry Uh, would you like some title suggestions? Yeah, please. All right. So we have arsenal pitches data Uh-huh works in so many directions Um, you just had some creators seeing red I like drunk on assistance Um, oh wait, what does that mean drunk on assistance isn't that personal like virtual assistance? Oh, because when you're I got it. Okay. Yeah, you were saying that it was The same as being drunk. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a fan of two four six eight data sets are really great I'll get the data nerds on our side Ellie likes that one too Um, go fight analyze. Oh, you will be myth Oh That's funny 14 seasons You can catch them in reruns That's pretty amazing. No taxation without commoditization Uh, witch stats Because it's witch stats Just crazy witch stats. Yeah more Spotify for you Yeah We've got yada. Yes, we do we've got data. How about you? Meppa bite ball Meppa ball money sucker Meppa ball I mean that's meba ball Uh, what but I think and maybe yeah, I almost wish that uh That that we could have gotten a little bit more into this but uh I think the the real fascinating about that that arsenal story is that It was them keeping data of like a proprietary data That yeah, I started to take us that direction and we got distracted But that is really really interesting Is that like the it's not just Like that now if we live in a world where the Memphis Grizzly said no no no John Hollager You are now our player personnel guy, you no longer write for espn because we really like your application of the per stat Uh Would the next move be hey, we're scouring blogs to find the one kid or we're buying these companies Uh who have these uh these now they got bill james That's how the Red Sox got bill james. Well, that's that's the thing is like now Would the move be let's not wait to see whether or not they do That they become good columnists or they become people that are our personalities that people want to follow Let's just hire them immediately and make their knowledge proprietary because this is still a closed league competition You know if uh if data in sports gets even more popular It'll make ll cool j Change his name to ll bill j Oh stop it cheese That was so many turns I know I was actually thinking um That is interesting and like this is sort of more like Hacking side, but what's the next step like there was already that report that that there was one baseball team That somehow socially engineered a hack on another baseball team recently that baseball team was the st Louis cardinals hacking the houston astros Because they let's not try to pretend like tom's trying to cover it up because he's A disgusting act that needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the commissioners off And those people were fired already right and the question is like what You know what the next level of integration of sort of computer awareness Will there be in major american sports teams? Well, I mean I think that there is kind of gonna kind of be a slow creep of just you know as people in general get more computer aware You know that that's just going to follow What's what's interesting now is How far regular technology and proprietary sports technology will kind of diverge that it's not just You have sites like football outsiders Which just watches old tape and categorizes literally every move by the offensive guard Uh, you know offensive linemen by offensive linemen and and derive stats from it And yet still bill bellichick was able to come up with a new play that involved the guy leaping over being over other guys And blocking No, that's okay. I I was just having a thought about uh the fact that you do have all of these fan run enterprises That look at all of this stuff and people just as passionate about doing that because they enjoy it as people who do amateur astronomy And the idea that you could have an open source data set for sports Becomes really interesting When you look at like the idea of what is actually proprietary for a league You know if i'm watching the game that is an authorized broadcast And i'm logging those stats Can the league come in and say hey, wait a minute. That's that's an unauthorized use of that Viewing you can't you can't create valuable stats out of that only our authorized partners could do that Well, if anyone was going to try that it would definitely be major league baseball Well, I'd say nfl is even worse, but no, no, no in baseball try to um try to crack down on fantasy sports Exactly and what the what the court said was the events of the game are not proprietary And so you can't copyright the facts you can't you copyright doesn't apply to facts But you can restrict the use of images and stuff like that But the names of the people and what they did you can't restrict Yeah, but that was probably a precedent but Yeah, no, I think the idea of people creating stats based on it. I think the the leagues look at Now as this is more publicity more attention toward the league You know, even if the teams are like wait a minute. We just spent two million pounds By a data analytics company and we could have got the we could have got data set I mean, I guess it's the interpretation of the data that you're paying for not just the question of it But but this company one of its values is that they have 500 people collecting the data There may be a cheaper way for that company to do it. I guess. Oh, no, absolutely And I think that you know there is There there's a world in which you could just get paid X amount of money, you know pennies on the dollar if you just kept every time you hit refresh and saw a You know some play and said did that guy kick the ball? Yes or no, you know Who kicked the ball? Did it go there? Yada, yada, yada And and and you could create a lot of very very valuable data Yeah, um, I mean, what was I going to say I had a point Open sports Open sports line minutes sports sports sports sports Why did you say line minnex? Yep? I did. Oh, no I've been with you guys for almost two years and It's working Yes Uh, all right guys, I got to get back to my portland existence. All right Go tell mayor kyle mclochlin. Hello I will I will I'll I'll go to powls I'll go to food and doughnut and get a bit of doughnut star doughnuts better Uh, you want to know why because Voodoo doughnuts as delightful as they are and I love them and everybody who goes to portland If you've never been to voodoo doughnuts you should go to voodoo doughnuts, uh You can't you can eat a quarter of one. They're all full cakes You like you get like, oh no, I'm gonna get a dozen doughnuts. No, I know that is enough for a 12 years worth of doughnuts They are so gigantic Voodoo Uh any poop, uh, I will see you guys. All right Have fun. Bye. Bye. Bye now The bluestar doughnuts in uh abbotkinny opened up yesterday Or opened up going there. I opened up like two or three days ago Eileen went there at four o'clock and they were out of doughnuts 4 p.m They're open till 10 p.m. Every night They're and they were like they were still open and they were apologizing. They're like we're gonna get better at estimating the demand Is it is it the first store ever kind of their operation first store in l.a. I think Like, uh I've only been to one all night doughnut store and that's just bob's doughnuts over there on Polk I can't remember the name of the place I used to go to in austin that was open all night It's uh, I just remember because it was it was the It was a focal point of kind of the pimp wars in the of the late mid to late 90s in san francisco Like, uh, there were a couple of drive-bys And one I guess one of the pimps was shot in the doorway with his doughnut and coffee Tom the next time I come to the side of town. We're going to boost our doughnuts Okay, I mean it's not too late to adjust. I guess it's not that well It might be a little late to adjust I don't know as I get older. I love doughnuts But the thing is I love the thought of doughnuts more than I like eating them I don't know if that's true. You have to be really careful about when you eat it No, no, no, I love the thought of doughnuts and I love eating them. It's how I feel after I think That's problematic. I have a very I don't know what it is, but as soon as I bite it. It's like I kind of regret It's when they're too oily that I get a little like Like I have to be careful about which doughnuts I eat now We got a bunch of doughnuts recently. I'm trying to remember the store And it was one of the few places that I meet Doughnuts that that I did not feel. Oh no, it was a modesto It was just really odd place, but like I got a I got like a we got a there's your problem. Yeah There's a dozen doughnuts and you know, it's modesto. It's a it's sort of a it's a kind of a culinary wasteland That's your homeland though. I'm not going to say mean things about modesto because I know people live there And I think that a lot of them Uh listen to this show We get I think well roger's from there his family lives there. All right, so roger has the permission to say anything about I will say that every time I went to modesto for cbs news. It was definitely for a murderer I think I've told you this I've had three shady things happen my life one is gary condit Who's our congressman and I do remember I don't remember Chandra leavey because she was a whole thing was in dc or whatever But um, I do remember meeting condit and then my mechanic at the time Worked on the guy who bumped off those three women in yosemite. He worked on his car And the FBI talked to him and then who was the other person? Oh lacey peterson. She was a junior when I was that's all the times that I went up there. Although I didn't go up for Too early too late for condit Someone else did that, but yeah, just When it had when it goes bad it goes bad in modesto. It's a very it's a very odd Confluence of shady stuff that happens All right, speaking of shady stuff. We're gonna stop right now. What title did we pick? Oh, um, it's already up on the site Let me go look and I don't remember what I picked. Oh arsenal pitches data That's the right. Sorry. I forgot to say that Okay, thanks everybody adios