 Alrighty, fantastic. Many thanks for staying with us. Welcome back. You are still watching Hashtag Why in the Morning, right here on Y254 TV. And we've got you with much more. But all you can do right about now is plug in using the Hashtag Why in the Morning. That's on all our social media platforms. Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as well is at Y254 channel. You can find me on my socials as well is at BrianSakwa101. The segment right about now is Entrepreneurship Tuesday where we bring you sometimes influential personalities who have to share about their lives, something that they've started for themselves that has actually, you know, made impact to not only just themselves but others as well. Now, live with us and studio today on our entrepreneurship segment, she is a household emergency and a powerhouse in her own right. When she took over the journey in media, she broke and struck your television screens with an entertainment show that actually made you love her even more. Her incredible and indelible bubbly personality and smile is a Mider's touch. And on top of that, she is the host of the Overdressed Cook. Her online TV show that actually broke the Internet by storm, fortifying her trademark in the content creation world. Ladies and gentlemen, live with us and studio is the unforgettable, the incomparable, the one and the only Anita Nderu. Hi. Good morning. Good morning. First of all, I was so, so, so scared that perhaps maybe you couldn't make it. I was like, is she going to make it? Is she going to make it? She always has a busy schedule. We always see things about home social media. Will she make it? I was just holding my God up and I'm like, God, please, make her come through. But now here you are. I think the person you should have been the most worried about is my new boss these days. Her name is Kaya. Hi, Kaya. And we were, we were more, my husband and I were more nervous about her knowing we have stuff to do in the morning. Because we feel like if she knows we have something to do in the morning, then she keeps us up all night. So that would have been your only concern. But fortunately, all went well and we're here now. So great. Thank you for having me. Welcome. I'm so excited to have you and to meet you in person now. It's lovely to meet you too. I come from senior social media and TV as well. Oh, well, it's very nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Now, let's get back to you. Before, before actually social media, you started off on TV and radio as well. But in a lot of people know you from TV and radio. But if you were to actually describe yourself, how would you describe yourself? Perhaps in two words, or three, or even more, you can add in there something. That's a tough one. I was, I was not ready for that one. How would I describe myself? I do think that despite the fact that that's how everybody knows me, that is how I would describe myself because that's been my career journey in the world of employment and entrepreneurship. So I would just put it as I am a TV and a radio presenter and a content creator of late. Right. Do you feel like you always had a calling to actually gravitate towards media? Because I remember when you first came on TV Republic, you actually took over the Kenyan 254 media space by storm. Everybody was talking about Anita. Have you seen Anita? Who is this Chika Anita? And then it followed with a lot of shows and then there was also a lot of conversations on blogs. How did that actually come for you? So I knew I wanted to do television thanks to Jimmy Gathu. I used to watch him on TV and after I watched him on TV, I was like, I have to be on television. And there was a time I was participating in this competition called the Presidential Award Scheme and I'm from Eldorit. And we came to Nairobi for part of the competition and his show was on and they were recording on location and I refused to leave the area where they were recording until they interviewed me and then even so they interviewed me and I was literally on TV for a millisecond. You know when they're just like, what's your name? And I'm like, my name is Jerry Deru. And there was something about that experience and then just seeing myself on TV and just watching a really young person on television that made me want to be on television. And it just became my dream. Actually when I was growing up, the only channel that we had at home was KBC for the longest time. And I knew KBC down to what episode comes, I mean what show plays at what time and da-da-da. And there was even a time when I wanted to be a news anchor because of Katherine Kastavuli. And it was just one of those things where for a very long time from when I was a teenager I knew I wanted to be on television. So then I was very grateful when that dream came to pass after very many auditions of being told no. I got to be on the team. You were told no? Yes. Anita was told no, guys. I feel like I matured in the space over time to a place where it may seem like it was not possible but it's something that I grew into when I joined television. I was still very raw talent. I didn't know how television worked. I didn't know how production worked. I didn't know much about how this space worked. It's something that I have built and grown in for over 10 years to get to where I am today. And yeah, when I joined it was great. Tina probably was fantastic. Antonio was my co-host. And our chemistry was just incredible. And I really, really enjoyed that show. And it's what got me into wanting to be in the women and youth empowerment space as well because I got to meet a lot of young, amazing, talented women and young, amazing, talented youth in the process. And I absolutely loved it. And then I transitioned to radio after that and then I became a film for another seven years. That's for hits, not homework? No, that was news actually. That was news as a news anchor. I was in the Republic to go work as a news anchor at Kaplafem. I worked as a news anchor on radio for about seven years. And then in 2018 is when I transitioned to hits, not homework when I joined Tracy and Ann Mora for that for a year. And then in between all that I was still doing the trend as a panelist and then eventually left mainstream media in 2021 and continued hosting and producing the overdressed cook. Wow, fantastic. What an amazing journey. Just a summary of that. Now, when it comes to support, you're also big on acknowledging your friends, your family. Would you say like your biggest support system has always been your family? And if yes, how has been the reception so far throughout your journey even growing up? Would you say that is something that they nurtured from us Ali as a younger age when you're a little girl? I think of my family members, the one person who I'd say has always been my biggest fan and has done her best to nurture literally anything I said I wanted to do was my mom because she was always the person who my career changed every time. You know that thing you do in, I don't know if it's an African household thing where when you want to make your parents happy you'll be like today I want to be a doctor and they're like oh yeah and tomorrow you're like today I'm going to become a pilot. Okay, so my mom, no matter what I said I wanted to do she was extremely supportive of it so much so that when I wanted to be because when I went to study I went to study international business administration and my mom, I went to her and I was like to be very honest I want to be a TV presenter but this is a fun degree to do at the same time and every time I had an audition or I had somewhere that I needed to be my mom was always the one who would finance the let's get a cute outfit for this and let's get nice shoes for that and my friends and family generally were always very supportive of my career and my husband as well and I generally don't think I would be able to do a lot of what I'm able to do now without the support that they give me and the great advice that I get from them but also my peers in the industry so I'm shout out to them as well but more so to every single fan who has watched me from my journey ever since I joined the teen republic to when I moved to radio to when content creation became a really big deal and have supported me on every single platform as well I mean I have to thank each and every one of you because I wouldn't be here without them because you can scream and shout all you want on television and radio but then without your fans and without people listening and watching you I don't think you'd get very far which is absolutely true and when it comes to also your career like I mentioned your big goals on acknowledging your friends and family a lot of people would really want to know where did Anita and Deiro grow up? did she grow up instead? because you know they've always known you as this chick who is chic, fancy you have all it going for you on social media as well like you post what's literally what you're doing like what you post is real so a lot of people are like where did she grow up? did she drop from heaven? I'm actually growing up from stats also chic girls are born in Eldorit and are existing in Eldorit so I was born and raised in Eldorit where I stayed until I was 15 studied there as well went to the Lablochab Academy then moved to Uganda for four years where I went to Vienna College for high school then after my A levels I came and I moved to Nairobi after the post-election violence then just ever since I moved here when I was 18 I pretty much stayed in Nairobi ever since went to uni here and then this became home and now I live and work here and as for posting what I put up on social media I feel like social media you just have to be very real and honest about what you're posting and it's one of those things where in the beginning I feel like everybody's usually lost as to what your identity is in social media and what you want to share you know what your are you putting up a facade or are you being yourself but I feel like just like everybody else when I joined social media I didn't really know who or what I wanted to be on that space and then now more than ever I want to be as authentic and as real about what I'm doing who I'm doing it with what's happening in my life what I'm sharing about my life as well because when it's fun times it's fun times for everybody but sometimes when you have like struggles that you're going through different experiences that you're going through I would hate for someone to think my life is perfect because it's not and when it's not I'd want them to know how I'm handling the different situations so that it's not this it's not creating a picture perfect image that is nonexistent yeah sometimes things are marky and you're human as well very human and speaking of that how do you literally stay grounded because you know sometimes even in the streets of social media we call them the streets nowadays things can be really tough you post something like I remember you posted your baby bump when you had your a little photo shoot yeah a beautiful photo of you right there when you posted that baby bump photo shoot those are a lot of comments in there people are like how did she now decide did she now you know posting naked how do you stay grounded even all that negativity comes in in as much as you know there's people you even don't know and sometimes it's people who you even know commenting on other comments section as well um first of all you saw comments that I didn't see now I'm gonna go and actually look through those comments um so this is one thing I'm gonna say thank you to my followers for is I don't know what is wrong with people on Twitter see on Twitter people will say things to you where you'll just be like okay okay okay I don't know what's going on with your day but that's cool um Instagram people people a little more reserved with their comments you know it's kind of I feel like on Instagram it's more if we have nothing nice to say we prefer to say nothing at all whereas on Twitter it's I'm thinking it I probably shouldn't say it but I'll type it out anyway um I will I will say there are times when despite a lot of positive comments there'll be that one unknowing comment that you will see that might just kind of ruin your mood or so to speak but then over time and I've had time to kind of grow into this social media space as much as um it's not been around for that long a time I think I'm doing better at just ignoring and using the block button a lot when it comes to people who just have nothing constructive to say because I accept constructive criticism I just don't accept flat out hate and abuse especially when it has when someone comes after your family or your friends or your puppy and you're just like what does this have to do with this image you know and um does it bother you sometimes would you say you know when people get on your nose that much they even don't know you does it bother you it does sometimes but then I am learning to you know those things where you're just like okay and then you just block the person the block button is actually a very very good button to use I came to realize it's a very very fantastic button to use right because I'm like if I'm saving you the trouble of having to not come onto my page and you know have nothing nice to say right interesting now let's switch back to your career you've done you've done television as well you've been on hits not homework what would you say was the secret actually that you used or the weapon or let's say the formula that you used towards getting to towards that direction because you know people will see you on radio as well hear you're out on radio then you later on come on TV for others it's so hard for them to even get such gigs but for you it seems like it was such a seamless process it seems like the universe go to you all day in and out well I if that's how the universe feels I hope the universe stays doing that but um it's a lot of hard work um like I said to get onto television in the first place I cannot even count how many auditions I went to where I was told no um either your how you sound doesn't work or you're not the personality we're looking for or ABCD so that took years just to get on TV in the first place and then once I did get on television um when I heard the Capital FM was auditioning again I just went and tried my luck and with each um job that I've ever gotten I've generally just tried my best and you know you do your best and you hope that God will do the rest and then um and in each one it's been difficult even when I got on to radio for a whole year we were being taken off air for training and it was one of those things where you're like am I going to lose my job did I just resign from one job to come and do a different job where I might I'm not I'm not good enough because every time you're on air you're not doing it right back to training you're not doing it right back to training so people don't see that side of your job there's so much work that has to go into it the seven years in capital took an entire year of training that almost it's not even really a whole year of training every single time that you went back into the newsroom you had to learn to be a better reporter a better presenter it was continuous work that was just um that you were putting in that someone doesn't see when they hear you on the radio so it may seem like oh it was just so easy and it was always working out but then you were I was always putting in work in the background um let's see what are the hits not homework how I ended up on it was actually a transition where I was moved from the newsroom to the show and um I'm actually I did want to be on a different show but then that's the one that I was put on but then even that took years and years and years and years of work and then the trend even that has been a continue it was just like a continuous year and year out you know trying to you know do the right do your research cause you just can't come on air and talk about topics that you've not done research on so there's a lot of um background work that's taking place that when you do come on air seems like you're doing great um there's even a rundown and even with the producer behind even the content as well it's you're on television you know how much work it is exactly you can't just show up in the morning and be like great good morning let's do this like this it's actually a lot of work right all of a sudden you went am I here people never saw you on TV anymore you are no longer you are no longer on radio for quite a period of time and questioning did Anita exit mainstream media especially Kenyan media or maybe a lot of people expecting to see maybe in maybe for a media make a comeback somewhere on BET or maybe CNN uh but the thing is you actually are on some sort of a hiatus in mainstream media space right now are you planning to make a comeback and if yes are you still on a hiatus what's the plan I don't I don't um I don't know what my future holds with mainstream media at the moment um there's there's nothing in the woodworks that's that I can tell you for sure that I know of I am very much enjoying the content creation space that I'm in right now with my web series the Overdressed Cook as well as I started um just um creating and editing my own show and just seeing myself blossom in that space of being a mom fluent and just being a new mom and navigating that journey and that's that's kind of where my head space is at the moment um I don't know if I will get back to mainstream media but if I do um I do know it will still be in the news because I did enjoy working in the news room but it is um it's a lot of work and I don't know whether you know this but news can be very depressing absolutely because you know headlines come in that are so heartbreaking profound and you have to do it yeah and it's um it's um would you say you at some point you ever got affected when you like read a news piece that was just you know profound emotions in check and you had to you had to be impartial in just how you feel about almost everything but then it's a it's hard like the so many bad things happen in the world in one day and on a daily basis you're reading bad news you know so you're just like yeah it's a there's a certain level of mental health awareness I feel that you need to work in a news room and stay in a good with mental health issues before and I just it's I don't know I'm happier in the space that I'm in now right what do you feel like maybe if you were to make a comeback maybe what do you feel like you are too big for the mainstream media or the mainstream space and maybe because of your numbers they won't allow you to come back or it's just a professional hiatus to focus on your personal career right now talking to you if NTV didn't give me a chance 11 years ago and Capital Affirm didn't give me a chance three years later and then NTV give me another chance another two years later I definitely would not be here without mainstream media in no way actually I don't think it's I think the hiatus was necessary because it's almost like you kind of have to let go to let grow sometimes let go I had been in the same space doing the same job for over seven years you know sometimes you have to leave the job for other people to get the job and sometimes you have to leave the job just so that you can grow and find out more about yourself like what else am I about outside of what I've done for many many many years and if you've been in the same space and you've sort of stagnated in for you to take a step back or take a step forward in a different platform and just see what more you can do and what more you are about right so like I said I'm happy to come back to mainstream media but maybe I would come back in a different capacity a talk show would do for you I would do a talk show a girl power kind of conversation anything that supports the girl child I am definitely down to do 100% shows by storm the groundbreaking the overdressed cook I remember on the first episode was posted on social media it actually went viral and those are a lot of comments because of some of your friends that were actually filming the show with how did you take that feedback and reception and remember also that time KFCB was like hey who is this girl what is she all about how did you take it I was like kill me too this is what I will say about that I will always be an ally and the show that we did was purely entertainment and it was just my friends and I having fun on set of course every all content that is put out be it on mainstream media or social media or on whatever platform really will rub people off one way or another and certain issues that are positive to Kenyans and you know we are all entitled to our own opinion we are all entitled to show our support in whichever way that we know how to do best and I respected their opinions and I hope they can respect mine as well and I just hope that we will continue to learn and grow as a country and maybe do a little research on what we don't shun it or sort of cocoon it into a space where we just assume something is purely sexual without understanding that there's human beings involved with actual feelings and actual lives and you know just try to learn and better understand what the LGBTQ community is about and not attack it the way that it is you know it's human beings behind all these faces at the end of the day and all these lives at the end of the day and I just hope we I hope that one day we will be having a very different conversation about this aha okay Andra not Andra Anita Deru Limited is actually the force behind the overdressed cook how actually did you choreograph that up is it because maybe you wanted to also start a media space even with the introduction of your brain child the overdressed cook as well actually that was my husband's idea he's a very brain savvy business savvy man and his opinion was if you're going to have different aspects of your life that you're handling or managing it would be best to do it under your own company and that's kind of how that came about it wasn't with the intention of having my own media house per se a company where that would umbrella all the different projects that I used to undertake as I you know go along in life because one of the things that I'm very grateful for with the evolution of technology is it's now created many different platforms for young people to make money outside of the traditional ways in which we used to make money you know and I mean look at how look at the way young people are breaking barriers making a ton load of money in all the different ways that we are now be it having your own products or having your own shows or just making money off marketing different brands so yeah so the whole point of the company was just to have an umbrella for all my different projects all right so maybe in future we might look up to like you employing some people who are jobless I would really stress them in uplifting their standards of living as well and just help them learn what I have learned as I have gone along because I think it's very important that as you grow in your space it's one of those things where I don't believe in this thing where just because you really suffered to get to where you are the other person also has to really suffer to get to the whole point of me the person behind me paving the way for somebody else to have an easier time to get to where I am now and you know and it's kind of something that happened on social media yesterday if you'll just allow me to speak about it real quick that I'm very excited about is the social media space there's a lot of money to be made in the social media space and one of the things that influences I would love for them to continue to get to where you are and how much they're requesting for in terms of their rate cards and what that's gonna do is if I have 10,000 followers today and you have a million followers today we should not be in the same boardroom discussing the same amount of money like if I'm a 10 you're at a million I should want to get to where you are because if I get to where you are and the people pursue where I feel with all the different positions that we're in I feel like you need to grow and make better the space that you're in so that when the person gets to where you are they can they can find a better situation to work in and more money to earn and the the higher you grow in an organization or the higher you get in your social media space you're growing and the goal is money and I love the fact that you spoke about money on this segment all the time I ask all my guests how is your relationship with money I ask them do you attract money does money follow you do you chase money or money chases you now let me bring it back to you do you attract money is money attracted to you I feel like all the things I do are the struggles of learning how to manage money and I have made a lot of money but I've also lost a lot of money how much is the biggest you know when you say made a lot somebody will say I in Tanderu made 10 billions and she never told us she never even announced on Instagram why would I do that I'm not trying to attract people to come and rob me what I will say is I have I will the digital space the digital space that is where that's the first time I ever made a six figure I ever received a six figure check and I was like wait what yes and that's why I'm always like listen the content creation space is an incredible space to make money generally and if we all manage if we learn to manage it well and we all look out for each other and ensure that nobody you're not undercutting you're not you're not accepting less than what your value is you're standing up for what your value is we can make we can we can we can change our lives in this space you know and it's just about you know coming together and looking out for each other speaking of looking out for each other before we talk about motherhood which is just another different topic that you're passionate about as well you are a a fashionable personality as well your elegance and style and for a lot of people back at home would ask and question how does this and it and there are just money to stay afloat function wise when it comes to even the attire the adoring the ensembles and the dresses like how do you go about that is it easy for you is it it has always been just a similar thing for you like that so clearly you have not seen me lately on the outfits I was wearing were not working for the motherhood space in terms of breastfeeding but then generally as far as dressing up is concerned I just love being extra extra it's for you it's my thing and it tastes extra same what's up it's or what's up as my mom would say it it's just I love dressing up it makes you feel good when you look great I mean the more fabrics the better you'll never hear whenever I'm with any of the designers that I love working with from the native woman to Stalba and Naomi there's never going to be a time you hear me saying that's too much or don't add that I'm always like just whatever else we can do to make this fabulous let's do it and I just think it makes you feel good and even if I don't know you're trying out for a job or you're I don't know you're going somewhere I mean don't you want to look good and feel good I think it just dress up how you want to be perceived and I don't know I find it very uplifting and just really great it just lifts my mood when I look great and I just love doing it and your personalities bubbly as well so it actually compliments even with the bold colors and everything it's something I love to do right interesting and now let's switch gears to motherhood when you first posted your hubby on socials there she goes Anita and Deirut there she goes and speaking about her hubby is in the studio with us right here so maybe just a little bit of a story how did you guys meet how did you fall in love with him because a lot of people are expecting is definitely maybe a deputy president of our country okay first of all where do you guys get these perceptions of me and speaking of perception as well why does it always like you know make people have perceptions you tell me you're the one who's been dishing them ever since I sat here so I met my husband through my best friend is married to his best friend but somehow we had never met in all the years that he'd been coming in and out of Kenya best friend right so my friend is married to his friend oh wow okay right so then at some point she introduces me to him and she was just like you two are the most unlucky enough people I've ever met I think I'm going to introduce the two of you and you know just get to know each other she introduced us initially with the plan of you guys just be friends and get to know each other and let's see how it goes and then I met him and we just spoke for a really long time and we got to know each other and it was just different it was like one of those the vibe, the connection it was just something else and I get asked like how did you know that he was the one right and I can I don't know how to explain it but this love just felt different he just felt different and the mental space I was in when I was with him was very different the level of peace of heart of mind of happiness of everything just felt different and I just knew that he was the one and we just get along really well and where we don't get along we learn from each other there's a great respect between the two of us the love that he shows to my friends and my family and vice versa and I mean his family is just great it just we just gelled in a way that it was just different it was just different and it just felt like it was meant to be and we just happily ever after and the rest is history history like we say I'm a ghost as figure of history when you're now a mother as well congratulations on that now what do you say things have changed like since you became a mom there's a lot that has changed with you know even your mindset even when it comes to the relationships you have with people the kind of conversations you have what do you say it has changed you but for the better part of it I would definitely say motherhood has changed me into a way better human being in so many ways I even care more for the environment now than I did before previously when you were single yeah because when I was single I was like yeah plastic bottles but then now I'm just like no we need we need to go organic and we need to care for the environment I want I want kaya to live in a world where there's fewer toxins and I want her name is kaya kashiri katalina raftree there you go a lot of ours there but we'll get there but I wanted to grow up in an environment that's way better than the one that we've unfortunately created the toxins that go into my home now I care more about what I eat now I want to live longer you know I'm like I'm happily married and I love my kid and I'm like I just want to live long for them and not that I didn't want to before but I care about it just a little bit more now and I think in terms of relationships now the people you relate to the conversation even the networks as well I think something about motherhood just generally makes you care more about where you where you where your energy goes where your peace of mind is and where you spend your time it's almost like you become impatient to things that don't serve you anymore it's an incredible thing and a very great and I have great respect for moms as much as I respected them before I have an even greater respect for them now it's time becomes this thing where I call it the zombie mode that's what motherhood is to me you almost never have time right and every time that you do have you have to really valuably spend it because there's just so many things that you need to do and you just need to have time for yourself and for all those things but just generally and it's made me want to be a better entrepreneur it's made me want to make more money I want my family to live well you know it just it's made me become I'd say I've matured more as compared to like Danita we knew before like the old Danita this is the new Danita yeah I'm proud of the person that I've become now and the person I'm becoming I feel like I'm I'm not evolved I'm not evolved I'm evolving right Danita involving right and speaking of that when it comes to even your hobby as well you posted him on social media there's a lot of comments and feedback as well do you feel like sometimes it's too much like people were just too much in your business immediately you posted him I think they were very nice generally the feedback was positive I mean regardless of what they say I still love my man um amen um I don't I don't think there was if somebody had anything mean to say that would just that's on them really but generally everybody was everybody loves love right you know and I didn't really unless again you saw something that I didn't see like I really want to read these comments now um everybody was just really nice and really supportive and everybody was just loving love and one of the things that I do appreciate about the online community that I have is that they're generally very lovely supportive people where they love you know that you know that hashtag love this for you um I love happiness for them and I love happiness for me in return and you know as long as you're doing something that makes you happy I don't think there's usually room for some if somebody really has to seek deep within them to find a reason to be unhappy for you when you when you seem to be visibly and clearly happy and I'm very grateful for just how lovely and supportive everyone is um my online family as well I love them even if your family as well oh my god my family loves him can I tell your funny story please do introduce any man to him unless we intend to marry that man that was my dad's number one role so we were not allowed to introduce boyfriends nothing he wanted to meet just the one so then he was the he was the only guy who's ever met my dad only guy like since you ever started dating Anita yes he is the only guy yes that your dad ever said his eyes on I mean my dad has seen the guys I'm dating but then I met them and then you guys don't work out and then I have to meet another guy so that was just never my dad's at all it was a no for him so then I always knew that the day that my dad meets the one that guy will get the speech of a lifetime my dad will issue threats one after another my dad was so nice to bear it I was just like are you kidding me I'm like dad at least one threat say something in the lines of if you dare site for her to my siblings love him and then his family is so fantastic as well I always used to be really scared of in-laws I don't know about how you feel about in-laws but I love my in-laws they're fantastic as well so it's generally been a lot of love all around my friends love him to bits and pieces they all get along with him so much so some of them even switched camp they're like his friends now and then I'm just like it's fine it's cool it's cool not just just give you by imagine how you said it now as we sum it up I'm told we have two minutes but I have to ask like two, three, four questions part of faster so I hope you have money to answer what is that one thing that you hold so dear to you as well and what is that one heartbreaking moment that you're hard to endure for a very long time you persevered and you learned and listened and you'd say it has actually made you who you are today first start with what is that one thing you hold so dear to you I mean currently it's kind of obvious it's my family my new family my old family the wonderful career that I've had and just the lessons that I've learned in the process and I hold dear all my past mistakes that have helped me evolve into the person I'm evolving into now all right now what is that one thing that you also endured for a very long time you persevered that also made you who you are today 2018 was a horrible year for me 2018 2018 was a horrible year for me a lot happened behind the scenes that unfortunately the public has never been privy to that led to possibly the mental breakdown it was a mental breakdown basically and the worst two three years of my life after that and it was just a really low point in my life in my career and just as a person and I'm grateful that I persevered through that to get to where I am to acknowledging that mental health is a serious issue and we have to look out for ourselves and allow ourselves to feel what we're feeling and work on it seek help I have conversations around it in professional zones as well seek a therapist it's important to address mental health issues and not ignore it so I would say 2018 is one of your lowest moments definitely the lowest point of my life and just 2018-2019 and I'm grateful that I came much on the other side alright maybe any future any future projects that you've got that you're working on that you can tease and maybe tell people like you mentioned maybe you could be making a comeback on TV KBC is here I don't know maybe you're pitching pitch, pitch, pitch pitch your proposal very happy to come back to mainstream media would be happy to do that I am working on a project right now that's around the field of non-toxic environmentally friendly baby products but I will tell you what that is on my social in the near future what else am I working on the overdress cook will be coming back so tune in to that please do follow me on social media as Anita and Daru I would love to have you on my show what do you like to eat do you know how to cook I know how to cook basic Ugarli for me Ugarli I have done that with Mimo Karanja already but we can think of something to do together I think just for now that's generally what I'm up to and do subscribe to my Instagram by the way I have that button now so be sure to check that out the social media which is at Anita and Daru on all platforms on all platforms I made sure to get my name when I was 23 so that nobody apart from my TikTok whoever has my at Anita and Daru on TikTok just give me back my channel please thank you very much your channel goes suspended is that what you say no somebody took my name oh somebody is like a doppelganger or imitation no they're just at Anita and Daru and I'm just like but that's my name just give me back my name please give her her name it's a trademark you know I would really appreciate that thank you alright thank you for hanging out with us by the way I've just remembered your best friends with Amina Abirabash she mentions you on Lord I absolutely love her right she's your bestie your best friend like best friend best friend she is okay I love to meet her as well now that I've met you was that your plug to get me to now talk to her they say use somebody to get to her number I see what you're doing and then you did it on TV so now I have to do it oh my gosh look at me now but in my mind I'm like who interviews Anita absolutely smart anyways 34 another day thank you so much Anita and Daru I wish you would have had more time to ask many questions so many questions and answer please if we invite you again please come back I'll be happy you know when I was giving you that call I was like I was still just give her a call you called me on WhatsApp who called on WhatsApp I knew right I was like let me just call her at a place where I know she will pick because this is the internet and the internet is easier and then go and you pick they call send me a text message and call me the traditional way that would go I tried you never picked though the first time I was probably doing something with Kaya Kaya is my excuse for everything okay Kaya I will look forward to host you once again right here on Y250 many other stations as well thank you so much for coming and for your time and that has been an up close and a personal with a lovely the gorgeous Anita and Daru right here with us in studio today we are calling it a day you can find us on our social media platforms Facebook, Instagram and on Twitter as well is at Y250 channel my socials is at Brian Salko 101 and the rest I should have lined up next for you in the meantime see you thank you Anita thank you for having me