 I think to have a successful CIO career, you have to have career perseverance. You have to be ready to keep trying and keep pushing ahead, even when things don't seem to be happening. You know, being a female in the field has its own challenges and having one of my superiors tell me one time when we were working on a major project that involves servers, let the boys handle the hardware that's what they're good at and realizing he was just never going to see me in a leadership role. But you have to be able to shed those kinds of comments and know that they don't define you and you can define yourself by following lots of different paths and knocking on a lot of different doors. Those doors just don't appear and open for you. You have to find them, you have to knock on them, you have to find ways to shove them open. It's really about perseverance and demonstrating.