 I'm in the DeVista booth now with Yoos Young, like I said from DeVista, and he didn't realize he was writing to the person that really wanted to hear about it was he's got a voice over calendar app. How are you doing? Yeah, nice. Thank you. How are you doing? Yeah, yeah. So, what was the reasoning behind creating this and how does it work? Yeah, that's kind of funny. Two years ago we developed an app with two other guys, a single guy company. But these other guys, an easy calendar app, very easy to enter events. Oh, sorry. That's the voice over radio show unit. But somebody here from San Francisco was asking me to take care of voice over to make sure really just fine tuning, you know. It works from the basics, but not in every corner of it. And I had a look at voice over and say, hey, you know what, if I would make a calendar for blind and visually impaired people, I would start from scratch. Because the whole thing is, if you make it for sighted people, you design screens for those people. Sure, sure. And the targets aren't the right size and that sort of thing. Yeah, so I did two things actually. First thing is make better summaries. So if you go to a week, you see a week once at a time, and it tells you where the events are. So not just counting, it says three events, Monday, Saturday and Sunday, you say, hey, Saturday, and then remember, and you scan with your thumb to Saturday. So the second thing is, this is fixed screen format. So you can scan it with your thumb and then tap with your other thumb. It depends on your preference. You can count on things to stay where they're supposed to be then. Exactly. There's just on a list and you can turn it around to flip the sides when you're left-handed. And the second thing is, the whole navigation is always in that same way. So you don't have to turn wheels, which is pain in the ass sometimes. It works. The standard app works for a voice over. But here you just go through a single step, like afternoon, three o'clock, straight, o-o, and then you just enter text and you're done. Okay, well, let's take a look at it. Or let's take a listen at it, I guess. Yeah, I could show it blindly, but I'll show it on the camera if you like. Okay, so you hold that up high, I'm going to go down to the voice over. So let's make sure it works. I think it's off now. By the way, for those just listening, Yos has a JBL speaker hanging around his neck. So, tap so that we can hear. Yeah, so this is the week view and the idea is that if you... Next week, no. Let's say I go to the next week. The week of February 4th. Next week, two events. On Tuesday and Thursday. That's the summary. And the standard app cannot do that because it just tells you there's a header for the 4th of July and then there's some events and it doesn't really summarize anything. Now if I now go to a day. Friday, no events. Tap twice to open. Tap twice. I can use two terms and one just explain, but that's depending on your preference. So you can just double tap. So what we're seeing is a list on the right and then a big area where you use your other thumb to tap it to say select. Yeah, so the layout always is from the top. You get all the events or days or whatever, so the content. From the bottom up you get the action buttons like go to the next week or add a new event. That's why they're blue for us to recognize and for people that are partly sighted. If you enter an event. Enter a new event. No. Select a day. So you don't get those dials. You just say it's going to be afternoon. It's going to be three PM. Let's say it's going to be three o'clock PM. Oh, I see what you mean about not dials. So he's tapping on three PM, four PM, five PM. But it started with regions of morning, afternoon, evening, that kind of thing. So you narrow down into it without having to flip the little scrolly thing. And you have to narrow down because the screen is not that long. So just an extra additional step, but it still makes it easier. Now then something that I've seen blind people do. Tank up, follow text in. Blind people do it very quickly. Capital T, W, S, T. And if you're done, no. You get a confirmation. TWS, Friday, February 8th, three o'clock PM. That's again something that's standard. Oh, it doesn't do that. You have to go back and tap on it and request it to get it. So now, do you have friends who are blind or you just because somebody came up and asked you about it? Yeah, I was actually that guy from San Francisco. I can mention his name, Bill Uber. Yeah, I like this guy. I met him yesterday here. It was quite late that I informed him about it because I started with a Dutch version language, so no English version yet. I'm just promoting the English version here now for the first time. He came in when I emailed him saying, I live very close. I'm going to be here back in the world. Oh, that's fantastic. What a great story. Well, I wish you great luck. How much is the app cost? I didn't make it cheap because of the lower numbers. It's $10 and during the trade show it's five. I'm just promoting it. But I think I want something that's sustainable and I can support for years. Yeah, so what is the actual name of the app? Sorry, D. What is the actual name of the application? Oh yeah, it's VO Calendar and VO is for voiceover. Perfect. And the company again is DeVista. And now what's your website? That's vo-calendar.com. Dot com. You can find it in the App Store. Okay. Thank you very much. Yes, this is very, very cool. Thank you for your time.