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All of you are winners. RET to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you. Justin's old boyfriend. That's an 80s baby for sure. Hey, he tried hard. Dance. Dance. Dance. Shake it. Shake your booty. You guys have a good weekend or what? Yeah, man. It was good. I took my kids to this Lego convention in Santa Clara. Like about a nerd herd. Wait, it was awesome though. Yeah, wait. Lego convention? Yeah, dude. Like, they're serious about their fucking Legos. Did they have all the, like the mechanical, what were they called? Yeah, Lego technical, yeah, all that kind of stuff. They had this elaborate like dioramas where, oh my God, there was this one where it had like layers. So, you know, you know those kind of maps that are like, they have like actual texture to them? What are those called? Like topographical? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're called something like that. Something like that. But anyway, so there was like layers, like fuck, like 25, like bricks deep where like they would just go up and down and it just made the, it's hard to describe, dude. It's like a whole alien terrain that they created. Dude, you were in fucking heaven. I know. It was awesome. Where is this at? This was at the Santa Clara convention where you had your show that one time. Oh, you know what I meant to tell you? You know who's coming to San Jose and is, what's the band, Greta Van Fleet? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Greta Van. Yeah. You know, they're coming here. Oh, I got to see that. Right here at Civic Center too. Hell yeah. Remind, if you look it up and get the dates, because I saw the dates are coming the next month or two, remind me and then we'll get some tickets. I'm down, though. Yeah, man. That's some good new rock. Dude, here's the thing with those Lego conventions, robotics, because, okay, so this weekend was my son's birthday and he turned 13, which is a big, that's a big birthday, right? He's a teenager now. He's such a good kid. Oh, I didn't think about that. That's right. I was like, why is that a big birthday? It's not a big birthday. You're like mustache. You're a fish in everything. You're an official teenager. It was a big deal. He's got the little dark, the little dark fuzz is getting dark now. Happy birthday to me. His voice is all fucked up. Have you taught him how to fill it in with mascara so it looks fuller? No, man. I'm going to have him shave it pretty soon. Dude, I used dirt. Yeah, bro. That's the trick. No, I didn't. What? You didn't do that? You did the dirty Sanchez to yourself? Yeah, because I had peach fuzz a bit and I was trying to even it out, so I put dirt on there. Oh my God. When I was a kid. Like nobody can tell? No. Yeah, I have no idea what I was doing. I'm just being honest. No way, dude. Like his friends are looking at him like, wow, he's got a full beard. That doesn't look like dirt. It looks cool. Every school had like the kid, right? Everyone had one kid who just like hit puberty like 10 years earlier. Some shit full on beard in like seventh grade. That was my friend Dustin. I had a full on bush I think by the time I was 13. But anyway, so. Did you really? Yeah, I did. Wow. Anybody have an age? Anybody tell you prove it? Huh? Oh yeah. All the time. Yeah, I was like here, check it out. So anyway. Oh my God. Rain. You just brought back some fucking. Remember? Prove it. Yeah. You remember kids plucking their pubes? So gross. Yes. That's so disgusting. Yeah, we just went way down the road. Yeah, that's too far. I do remember that though. But that's what you do. It was a thing. It really happened. Because it's cool. Yeah. Because you're cool. Well, I remember boys. And then when you're older. Boys. And then you put your hand for a second. What are you putting in my hand? Pubes. Oh, wow. You're really going to force down there. Just want to show you that I have some. See, why is that like a universal thing? Prove it. I mean, we grew up across way far away from each other. It's a rite of passage. It's like, is it? It's a rite of, you know what it is? There's rite of passages that culturally have happened in, you know, all kinds of cultures. And for guys, we really don't have one anymore. We don't go hunting. We don't do whatever. Girls get their period. What do guys get? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we get a boner and pubes basically is what happens. So anyway, so anyways, his birthday, I got him a new computer because he loves gaming and shit like that. And, you know, you were talking about the Lego convention. So I was, I was, you know, I was talking about it. And he's really into it. And his friends are all into it. And that's what kids are into nowadays, right? And I was asking like, so who's the best among you and your friends? And he's like, well, me and this other kid were the best ones. So I'm like, are you just saying that to sound cool? Or he's like, no, I'm actually the. I'm really a badass. Yeah. I'm like, all right, that's cool. I said, you know, I heard that real deal. I'm like, I heard kids make, can make a lot of money gaming. Like there's leagues and shit. And my son goes, he goes, oh, he goes, you have no idea. So he shows me this kid who made $8 million last year in these tournaments and shit getting sponsored by these computer companies and headphone companies and video game companies, $8 million. Dude, that's the athlete of today. I mean, if you really get into like the professional gaming league and you look up like some of the top performers in there, they make so much fucking money. They make more money than like a lot of the like soccer players and you know, the top players in the world. You brought up soccer. I did. What did you do? You guys are crying. Oh my God, dude. People get so drunk. Bro, you got, Adam, you got ripped. Oh, I did. I did. I offended. So I think it was all fun, you know? Well, let me ask you again. That's protective. Are you going to go back on your statement of saying that the NFL is going to surpass soccer one day? I actually still, I still stand by that. I do. I love it. I do. I wouldn't have said if I didn't believe it. Like I, and I know people think because of the. If that ever happens. Well, let me take, let me. You will be like the God of, because that's such a. Well, here's, here's. The odds are so against them. Here's where people, here's where people aren't thinking. Okay. I, and I've said this on the show before. This is why you're all dumb. Yes. This is why you guys are silly right here. If you really think that the, the NFL as an organization is going to go away because of everything that's happening. It's not going to just disappear. It'll pivot. Yeah. And what I, I told you what I think is going to be the future of how we watch sports is we're going to have these AIs that are going to look like humans that are going to be replicated just like probably the real humans that play, can play the sport. And they'll fucking kill each other. They'll blow each, we'll hit each other so hard. They'll blow up and we'll see all this. And it'll be something that. I don't think it'll be football. I think if that happens. It'll still be the NFL though. It'll be like, it'll be football with guns or whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Maybe it's a blend of the, you know, like what your son's doing with the NFL or whatever. But my point is that I think it's, it's becoming bigger and bigger and bigger where. Speaking of which, I saw videos the other day of, dude, Russia has the craziest like MMA type shit I've ever seen in my life. Really? No rules. No, no. They had one where guys were wearing armor and they were fighting with. Are you shitting? Getting like medieval like, like battling? Swear to God. No. Swear to God, dude. Well, I mean stick fighting. I want to watch that. Remember Tate? That's what Tate started with. Our boy Tate. Eskrima? Yeah. What was it? What's it called? Eskrima. Oh, I didn't even know the name of it. Yeah. Because I've seen, I've seen actual MMA fights like in, in like a field where. Those are in Russia too. Yeah. Where like people just like, it was no holds bar, but they didn't have weapons, but they all fought like MMA style without any boundaries. Russians are crazy. I saw the one where they had weapons. They literally had weapons. They were blasting each other. It's crazy. And then I saw one where it was a group. Damn. It was a group of, it was two groups of like five. So it was like five against five. No holds barred fight. And you know what ends up happening with that? Like first it's one on one. But as soon as one guy knocks the other guy out, it starts to become like, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, you know what I mean? We're going to jump this other guy. And so the fight quickly. This is a two on one and three on one. Quickly devolves into like two guys fighting four guys. Oh my God. Crazy. Like a royal rumble of MMA. Dude, they're insane. It's absolutely insane. Anyway. I want to see that. So I watched the dumbest movie of all time. Also this weekend. Really? Yeah. The first purge. Oh. That's in theater right now. Stupid. So stupid. I thought it looked kind of cool. Dumb. Dumb. Oh my God. It's dumb. Really? I walked out. It wasn't scary at all or any of that. Gosh. So stupid. It's like. I didn't say stupid. I feel like. No. Stupid isn't. It wasn't made well. It was like it was violence for the sake of violence. It was just excessively. You know when you watch just like a scary movie that's trying too hard. It was like that. It was just it was dumb. And then did you guys watch the first purge? Yeah. No. It was okay. No. I didn't watch any of those series. I liked. What was it? What was the other one with the creepy guy that drove around on the cycle? Saw. Saw. Yeah. Did you like that? I know right. And then it just kept going. And you're like I get it. I know what's going to happen. I saw that first one scared the shit out of me on there. Yeah. Did it really? The first couple were crazy. I was in the theater opening. You were an adult. It wasn't even that long ago. Of course. So fucking still scared me. You got really scared huh? Of course I do. I mean it doesn't get to admit that on the show. What are you doing to get scared? I don't know. My fucking asshole puckers up and it gives me anxiety in my heart rate. And my heart races and I sweat. Yeah. It's like not fun watching movies. Did you watch a really scary movie when you were a kid or something that did get traumatized? No. I think it's because I didn't. So I have like cousins that were like exposed to it as little kids and watched. I never really watched scary movies as a kid growing up. And then when I was introduced to it I thought well this is stupid. This just gives me anxiety and makes me sweaty. That's why they're fun. No. That's not fun at all. That's not a roller coaster to me. It's like I'll go to a fucking theme park if I want to feel like that. Like if I want to watch a movie I want to relax. You know what I'm saying? I want to be entertained. I don't want to be jumping out of my seat. Anyways I was at SAW for the opening weekend the first one. Your girlfriend must have convinced you at the time. You probably because I'm sure I wasn't with a buddy of mine. Unless maybe you know what maybe it was my buddies. My buddies love to make me watch scary movies. Like if it's there's three of us and if I'm the odd man out on a movie like I'm not that much of a plus that I won't go watch it. You know what I'm saying? Okay well if I'm outnumbered here we'll go which is probably what happened. But we were in the theater for SAW and it was sold out. Everybody was in there. And it was opening weekend so you don't know any of the parts that are coming. Because after a scary movie comes through people tend to ruin it for you. Oh watch the one part. It's like the Blair Witch project. Two people ruined that for me just about as I was going to go watch it. So the part where maybe I think one of the scariest moments in scary movie history at least for me because I haven't watched a lot so you can argue this if you've watched a ton. But the part where he's walking around the apartment it's pitch black and he's using the camera. Oh yeah that was brilliant. Oh my god. So the whole theater every single time the camera flashes and then when it flashes and you see the clown face like the whole fucking theater scream like on part right with everybody just scream. Do you get nightmares? No I don't get nightmares. Okay you just don't like the anxiety while you're watching. Yeah I just I mean I love to I'm a huge movie buff I mean my by the way I'm selling that so I just I just found a new app. Selling what? I'm selling all my stuff right so we're moving soon so I'm selling everything and my DVD collection I have like between. Do people buy those still? I know is that a thing? Well I mean I'm like practically giving them away. Yeah. These things I have. You're doing one blockbuster. Are you doing commercial on my pub right now? Yeah. Yeah let me sell my shit real cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know my shit. It's a buyer sale. Are you guys familiar with this app right here? I'm sure Enzo is. It's called Let Go. You guys heard of this before? Oh yeah I've seen it come around before. It's like it's like it's kind of like Craigslist but virtually right? So are you doing like 50 cents each or something like that a dollar each? Yeah I would like a dollar each. You know what I'm trying to do is sell the whole collection for 500 bucks and there's well over 500 in there. I stopped counting at 500 right so there's a bunch more and there's like I've got PlayStation, Xbox. I've got games and movies that aren't even open. Probably 50 stuff. Is there porn in there on accident? There is porn in there. There's everything in there. It said yeah it's a plethora of entertainment in there. So if anybody's looking for some DVDs, selling the TVs, everything's going bro. Well you're doing the whole thing. The whole thing's gotta go. I told Katrina the only thing she's allowed to bring is the box spring. That's it. Everything else has gotta go. Everything else we're starting. I like doing it like that too. Yeah just a clean break. Well you know when I moved, when I sold my house and moved in with her, she had already had like all of her shit and then I brought in all my stuff. So we have like a storage in the back, our garage is full, we've got a spare room full of shit. We just got so much shit. Yeah. And I'm like I don't want any of it. Have you decided to buy or to rent first? Rent right. Are you gonna keep the quad? So I know I'm selling the quad. Selling the Camaro. I sold the Toyota. Selling the Camaro too? Camaro. Well the Camaro's only right now. Ouch. Do not sell the Camaro. If someone gives me the right price. You've made money on that. Yeah. So if I, maybe, if I sell it, I made money. Oh you mean it goes, they go up on average 8%. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Every time one of those things come up, fall off the road, those things go up. It's a sick ass car too. You never drive it though. I know. That's the reason why. Yeah. And we're, we're gonna do this little, you know, for six months. Because I still, to buy over here in San Jose, the house that I want, you know, you need a bajillion dollars. Yeah. So. They made up a new name for the number of the money you need. Yeah. They said it's a bajillion. A bajillion dollars. Right. So I'm going to, I'm, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to lease for us. We're looking for a six month lease to kind of hold us over until I got a couple more bucks to go buy like. See the problem with buying in the Bay Area, obviously always you can speculate is the, is the value of the property going to go up or is it not going to go up and Bay Area is just so expensive and so many people are coming here to work, especially in Silicon Valley. But the problem is when you buy a house here, a decent house is going to cost you over a million dollars. And I mean, when I say decent, I mean like a normal, small family. Liveable. I'm not talking about like a. A nice house. Like a regular, like a regular home or regular suburban home will cost you over a million dollars. So if you want something that's a little nicer, you're going to spend about 1.3, 1.4. That's, that ties up so much of your money because you put a down payment on that. What is that? $300, $400,000? Yeah. You've got so much money tied up and it's not liquid unless you sell it. If the market goes down, you're fucked. The other option, if you want to be smart with it, because I've talked to a lot of, I have a lot of family members that are investors and they're telling me like it's not smart. What they're saying is rather than tying up all your money. Buy two or three investment properties. Yeah. Buy a few investment properties or buy two and then put some. Which we've discussed this, but you know, we're Katrina and I are at with, you know, settling down and starting. Then there's, I know what you're going to say. So, so my theory and the reason why we're not jumping into a place right now. So I could jump into a place right now, but the problem is the place that I would jump in right now is around the range that you're talking about right now, which is that one to 1.2. And what I want is more like 1.5, 1.8. And the reason why, like for me, the way I look at it when I talk to Katrina is that, you know, whatever we buy, I want to make sure it's a house that we feel okay if we were in it for the next 10 to 15 years. Yeah. So that's why I'm in this limbo. Like I can just go get a house to get into a house, but I don't want to buy a house that I don't want to be in three years later. If the market does dip in three to five years, then I'm fucked, right? Whereas if I get something that I really like and I would be okay if we were stuck there for 10 or 15 years, which we know over the course of 20 years, real estate's always an incredible investment. Unless there's some disrupting technology, like 3D printed homes that just destroys them. You never know, you know? No, even then, but here's the thing with that. You still need space. Yeah, you need, you still need land. What's so expensive in the Bay Area is not so much the homes. The homes aren't, it's the land. I mean, you're paying age... There's low supply. I mean, excuse me. Yeah, there's low supply and high demand. Yeah, you buy a house in the Bay Area for 1.5, 1.8, you know, 1.2 of that is the fucking property. You know, so the house is only really worth $300,000. Dude, there was a two or $3 million house in Palo Alto. It was 800 square feet. They just bought it to tear it down. Yeah. And that's how much they spent on it. Yeah. We're probably playing for the land over here and the location we're at. So we're, you know, I'm in the middle of that right now. So I'll probably end up, and all of it's up in the air. It's like, there is a possibility we may buy something really quick. I'm even, I'm even looking into this area right here because Google's coming in. All the property that's, that's going to get built or that is built or that is, that's here is... Probably going to go up. Yeah, I can't imagine Google dropping in here. And you can see it. If you drive down San Carlos, you can just see all these... The thing about California too that's crazy is that, you know there's more people leaving than coming in though. That's the other thing. There's more people, right? There's like an exodus they're talking about. In the biggest city, San Francisco just lost. There's this convention that goes there every year and I can't remember the name of it. I don't know if maybe Doug can find it. Maybe look up Doug convention, leave San Francisco. I don't remember the name of it. But it's a big convention. It goes every year. This is the first time they said we're not coming because of all of the safety concerns, because of the crime, the homelessnessness and how expensive it is. So I don't know, man. It's weird for me because I feel like it's either going to keep getting more expensive or what we may see is this like what happened to... You know, because there's areas like Detroit. You know, Detroit used to be one of the best places to live in America when the auto industry was exploding. But then the auto industry failed to be able to compete with Japanese cars and other cars. And a lot of that had to do with all the regulations and all that kind of stuff. And now Detroit is just... They have like a quarter of the population they used to and it's not a place you want to live. So I don't know, man. Well, I mean, I would 100% if I was like a guy who wasn't trying to start a family and settle down like that, I would, for sure, invest in properties. It's not even... It's a no-brainer to me because like you said, I mean, when you're talking about 1.5, 1.8 million, you can buy some nice houses for 300 grand in other places. So you could have three fucking homes. You know what I'm saying? You could buy right away pretty much. I mean, you couldn't ride away. But you would, one after another, be able to probably pick up a couple problems. That's what's so enlightening how it's not expensive to actually build the house. That's not the expensive part. No, it's the property. It's the property. And that's why I think even 3D printing won't destroy the housing market in an area like this. The area will continue to be desirable. There's still a ton of money here. You know what I wonder might change? So it was a medical convention that canceled. So you know what I think might change? House prices? Because I've been thinking about this a lot. Like, okay, what could... Because the reason why I was thinking about this, I actually posted an article in the forum about the cost of the taxi medallions in New York. I don't know if you guys saw that. I didn't see that. So a taxi medallion, you have to have one. It allows you to be able to own it. The value of it's dropped down to like $130. It used to be worth over a million dollars. Yeah, that's like $130. Now it's 100. They don't even know because people haven't sold them in like a few years. And it's because Uber came in and completely... Who would even consider buying one of them? What do you buy in the book? Why? What are you buying? Wouldn't you get the medallion? Yeah, I mean, I get what you're getting with the medallion, but I was like, if you're somebody who would even consider buying one right now. Nobody's gonna buy one. Yeah, why? Nobody. That's what I'm saying. The value's probably zero, to be honest with you. Yeah. And it's because it was an artificially inflated market because it was a monopoly. They only limited so many. And now here comes a disrupting technology that just destroyed that market because that market was propped up by other circumstances. Dude, it's so archaic. Remember when we were taking a taxi in LA compared to Uber? They used to give no shit for not having cash. They destroyed themselves. Who are you? Yeah. So when I think of the housing, the cost of houses, and I think, what could disrupt that industry, right? And I thought, okay, 3D printing, but then you're right about property, like the actual size of the land and all that stuff. You know what I think might actually affect it quite a bit? Self-driving cars. Because when self-driving cars become the norm, you have to imagine for sure traffic is gonna become almost nonexistent because most traffic is not the result of too many cars. It's the result of human error. And when cars can synchronize and move together, you can fit way more cars on the same road and find that there's no traffic whatsoever. And the fact that people will be able to work in their cars on the way to work, it'll make it much less of a stress. I feel like that may change the prices because people will just, you know, let's say the jobs are in San Jose. Someone's gonna be like, well, cool, I'll just work two hours away. Yeah, but what you're talking about right now is I think that's gonna take us 30 years, you know what I'm saying? But for that to complete... You think so? Oh, yeah. I mean, I agree with you, but by the time San Jose's freeways are converted to self-driving cars and all those things like that, I mean, we're talking minimum 20 years. I mean, just to build that out, what that would take. Well, you have to go through government. Because of the roads. Yeah, exactly. So that's what's gonna be the hold up for sure. Right. Because of all the regulations and shit. I feel like they may be something that, because on the one hand, they may not want to do it because there's all these lobbies, the special interests, but on the other hand, cities may want to do this because they may find that they're not able to get people to live there and to, you know, because of the cost. I think they will. They may actually make a lane. I think you're right that that's the future. I do. I would not disagree with that. But I really don't think that's gonna, I don't think that's gonna affect the housing as much as we think it is. I think it's gonna continue to rise for a couple more years and then it'll plateau, maybe dip again. And so as long as you can ride it out for 10 to 15 years, now if you were looking to, like if I was looking to buy, this is what I don't, I don't want to start her home right now, right? I already had my starter home. Yeah, here's the thing. So I don't want to... I'm with you. Yeah, I don't want to start her home that I was planning on trying to flip and sell in three to five years to upgrade to a bigger one. You want to live where you're gonna live for a while. Yeah, and that's what's taken so long for me to pull the trigger on all of that. I'm with you. That's why I'm not gonna buy something that I'm gonna live in. If I'm gonna buy anything, it'll be investments. And I'm gonna wait. Because I feel like in two, three years, I'll be able to get more what I want. And remember, I owned a nice house. Not that long ago. It's not my now. I'm just gonna demo my house and start over. Did you love my property? I love my property. Did you give her all of that? I don't remember if you told me that or not. No, I mean she has the house. Yeah, she lives in it. But she had to pay me out. But obviously I got the shortage and the sick on that because the value of the homes goes up quite a bit. Right. And I'm not... Especially right now. Your home's probably worth well over a million. Probably 1.1. Here's the thing with that. It's when you're in a situation where you have children and you want the best for your kids. Right, to no brand. Here's the deal. Divorce is tough to go through to begin with. They're already gonna move because now they're gonna live with me half the time. So that's already a big move. I'm not gonna also force them to move out of the house that they were born in and grew up in because of this whole thing. So, you know, I wanna make sure we work together as well as possible for the benefit of the children. If that means that she on some ends gets, you know, a better deal, that's fine. On other ends, I get a better deal too. I mean, she's extremely flexible when we travel a lot and stuff like that and she does a lot of the planning when it comes apart. So I'm not like bitter. I know I joke around about it but I'm not bitter. It is what it is anyway. So I read some really cool articles this weekend that I wanna share on the show. Here's a fascinating one. So there's a theory, this one really blew me away. There's this theory that's circulating that wearing sunglasses may actually increase your risk for skin cancer. Wearing sunglasses. Yes. So when the UV rays hit your, yeah, exactly. So when the UV rays hit your eyes, there's a compound that's released by the brain and I can't remember what it's called. I'll look it up. That prepares your skin to deal with the potential damaging effects of UV rays. But when you wear sunglasses, your brain thinks it's dark. It's giving you a mixed signal. So your skin is less prepared to deal with the potential damage of the sun. How do we finally put this together? Well, this is a theory. It's not proven yet. Okay. But you know what? I would bet my money that there's probably something to that. Right? Because we know what happens. Well, it makes sense. We know what happens with your ability to sleep just because you've been exposed to it. It's like a sensor. I mean, your eyes will gauge what kind of intensity is out there. So that does make logical sense. It's very strange. Okay. It's a... Milano sites... Blind people gotta be fucked in. Right? How's that worked in? You know what's funny about that? Blind people have... I can't remember the name of the... What's it called when it's inside your nose and your ears? I remember Ben Greenfield talking about this. Oh, there's light sensors in your nose and your ear. Yeah. But with blind people, a lot of them suffer this condition where it's hard for them to fall asleep and wake up at consistent times because their brain isn't perceiving that it's daytime or nighttime. Yeah. But no, I think that's a fascinating theory and I would bet money that there may be some truth to that because for sure, do you think your brain knowing it's daytime is gonna cause reactions in the body to prepare it for the fact that it's daytime? Or when it's dark, prepare your... Because we know this, if you don't have light coming through your eyes, it's like, let's say you wear blue blockers, right? Your brain prepares itself to release melatonin and get you to go to sleep. We know that for a fact. So wouldn't the opposite also... I got something you better prepare for. Enzo... I better prepare for? No, Enzo better prepare for him getting his ass whooped for eating all of our new sponsors. Dude, those things are so good. I can't blare you, Enzo. I was so excited. This is probably one of my my favorite new sponsors that we just got and I was so excited. They shipped over a box, a ton of them. Yeah, they all came in. Skinny dipped. I go to look inside and this little motherfucker has eaten like almost all the almonds over there. I know. You know, it's funny, and he went and had to go buy a bunch of them to replace them. So a lot of companies will send us stuff thinking that we're gonna try and like it. And 99.9% of time we don't like it. We're just like, whatever. But... It has to blow our mind. But we're willing to try. We'll try it. If it blows our mind, then we'll talk about it and maybe we'll work with you. Well, these are so good. Yeah. And they're not bad for you. No, no. Yeah, I mean, it's low on the sugar. I mean, there's some sugar in it, but it's like, oh my God. Oh, it's chocolate. But it's chocolate and it's... Oh my God, they're just... The peanut butter ones? They're tasty. This is a nice little snack. No, it's smart. It's simple what they did. I mean, all they really did was instead of... Because everyone's had like chocolate covered almonds. It's not like revolutionary. Like it's not like the first time... There's just not a lot of chocolate. It's just enough. Yeah, it's just a very thin coat. So you kind of get that. So it gives you this kind of sweet... Which for someone like me, who has been addicted to sugar his entire life, and it took forever for me to kind of wing myself out. And when I have like these moments, they're like, oh, that sounds really good. For example, we were at the movies last night, you know, and again with association, like my brain says like, oh, Mike and I sound so good right now. But I know like that would just give... Fuck my stomach up later on. And I know regret it. So you didn't have them? No, so I had the skinny dips instead. Oh, perfect. So, you know, Katrina brought it in her purse, and there, you know, smuggled it into the theater. Still feels like you're smuggling whenever you go to the movies with it. Dude, they don't check that anymore. They don't. You know, like I've come to that conclusion, too. They don't give a shit. I've gone in with sandwiches. I came in with a big old soda. Now part of that might be because we're older big men, too. That's what I think. Yeah, because I was going to say, remember as a kid, I used to get caught up all the time with that shit, but that's got some skinny little kid walking through and then somebody else. Excuse me, sir? Yeah. Especially the way I walk. When I have a thing I'm not supposed to have. Yeah, I walk right by. Exactly. I put a look on my face. How's it going? Tell me I can't have my sandwich. Exactly. Hey, man, how's it going? I actually have CDQ for my sandwich. But they are really, really good and they are relatively low sugar for something like that. So they did a pretty good job. No, I have to say it's one of my favorite sponsors that we've picked up. Which one did you have? The peanut butter one? I've had them all now, man. Which one did you bring? Oh, so no, I have the coffee one. I like the coffee one. They're super good. Yes. Have I tried that? I haven't tried that yet. Purposefully. We didn't give you any on purpose. Yeah, e-assles. Well, now that the contest started, you can have them all you want. I've had them all. Yeah, I've had them all. My least favorite, although they're still good, are the raspberry one, because I thought that's kind of a, that's different. And they, the secret is to put them in the refrigerator. If you guys haven't figured it out already, you put them in the refrigerator. They're really, really good cold. Yeah. But I like them all. I mean, the peanut butter one and the coffee ones, I mean, they're like, and they did what they did where it was really smart that I like about it. And I was telling you guys this before we got on air, is even if you went crazy, right? And you ate the whole thing. Like Enzo did. They packaged them into, I think I want to say it's about 500 or 600 calories. So it's not like eating a whole bag of chips or a whole pint of ice cream or a whole box of candy that most people could do. Even if you go in on them, at least the damage that you're doing from it is pretty reasonable. Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah, yeah. For me, 500 or 600 calories is not like the end of the world. I do think you're right, though. I think that the kids are supposed to stop us, but they're scared. Yeah, that's right. So have you guys ever had a front desk person when your gyms work there and not say something to someone because they're intimidated and haven't walked by it? You ever seen that? Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh, I did that. I saw that once. My front desk, there was this dude just like, excuse me, sir. And he just kept walking. And then he let him because the guy looked kind of intimidating. And then of course, I went and confronted him and everything. But you can, a lot of times, just walk in and people won't say shit. No, you're right. I know where I'm going. If you act like you own the place, it's when you walk in and you look all lost or confused that you're not sure or guilty. Where did we try doing that? We got stopped. We almost made it. Oh, it was at the RQ festival. It was the wine thing, right? Yeah, across from Paleofex. What? What do we do this? Oh, that's right. We tried so hard to get in. Oh my God. Adam tried so hard. Adam's getting the security guys to call it in. You really did a good job. You tried so hard. Didn't you guys feel calm? I thought you were going to get it. I thought for sure, yeah. We were close. We convinced at least one or two people. Those were like $200 tickets a piece that we almost walked through. Who stopped us? There's this old salty dog. He's just like, yeah. Those are the people. The Patriot. Yeah, if you ever see an old man working at the movies, for sure he'll stop your ass. Yeah. Nobody gets by on my walk. He was hired just to ruin kids' days. That's what he was hired for. We need a guy who's willing to ruin kids' days right here. This guy's perfect for that. Dude, you guys got to watch. Not a pushover. I found another fasting documentary on Amazon Prime. It's literally called Fasting. Really fucking good. Dr. Walter Long goes on there. There's a couple of things I don't like about it that they kind of highlighted people's weight loss through Fasting, which Jessica and I were watching it and we're both cringing like, oh, don't set this message out because you're just going to get a bunch of people, you know, anorexic or whatever. But they were going over some of the science. One of the scientists on there brought something up and I did some more of my research and I found that it seems to be true. Some of this seems to be true. So you know how when you diet, when people cut their calories and they do it for a long, enough period of time, they get metabolic adaptations or metabolism slow down, right? We talk about this all the time on the show. Fasting does that to a far lesser degree. So instead of, you know, just going low calories all the time with people intermittently fast and then that ends up resulting in less calories, the metabolic adaptations, the slow metabolic, the slower metabolism that you may get from that is much lower with the fasting. And they theorize it's because when you have no food, your body wants to burn. When you're eating food, it wants to store. When you're eating too little, it kind of mixes those signals up a little bit. So it's better to like eat in a timer-stricted fashion. Like a clear signal. This is, you know, the priority right now. That's the theory, but I thought that was really fascinating because, you know, I would think that it would cause the same kind of, and I'm assuming, I would assume if you did a lot of fasting, that would end up happening, right? If you overdid it. But pretty interesting. That is really interesting because it makes me think about like prepping for a show and if it would be a smarter strategy than instead of like high calorie days. Yeah. And then no food. Yeah, literally like, we're not going to eat this day like a day off of, I would see that's where I'm conflicted. Like even like 500 calories more, like what would a high day look like? Well, a high- Well, you just averaged it out, right? Yeah. So you would look at the whole, I would say you had a female athlete or whatever eating 2000 calories a day and that was their contest prep. Let's just say, right? So that's seven, it's 14,000 calories for the whole week. I wonder if instead of, and let's say, let's just imagine that that puts her at a 750 calorie deficit every day. Rather than doing 2000 calories a day, maybe take those 14,000 calories and do it over six days and then make one day, no food. Right. You see what I'm saying? So that, and you take those 2000 calories and add it to the other days or something like that, right? It's interesting to see that. I'd love to see a study like that comparing two groups. That'd be interesting. Yeah. The only thing that bothers me about even talking about this on our show Yeah, I know. People that'll, yeah, want to adopt it for fat loss. And here's the thing that scientists don't understand because I hear these guys talking on this documentary and Jessica and I are just cringing at some of the stuff they're saying. That's because what they're saying is wrong but because How people will receive it. I've trained so many, look, we've trained so many people. We know. Well, I already feel like it, even since our show has been going now for three and a half years or whatever. And we came out at the very beginning talking about all the pros of fasting. Now I feel like I want to reverse my stance and tell everybody to stop. I know. It's turning into a fad. Just like we thought it would. And everybody, I hear people all the time, like I hear people at the hair salon that'll be cutting hair and I hear girls two, you know, two salons over. I just fast for 48 hours. I'm ready for the beach. Yeah, yeah. Oh, what are you doing for your diet right now? Like, oh, I'm doing, you know, intermittent fasting right now. Like that's like everyone. Well, it becomes the thing. It's the only thing, you know, and they overdo it. And for back when we started, like nobody was doing it. So that's why we brought it up so much and we tried to promote the benefits of it, but then it just got away. The problem is, is that starving yourself has been rebranded now as fasting. That's what it is, literally. Because when I first became a trainer, people who just didn't eat to lose weight, we used to say, oh, you're starving yourself and or that's a potential eating disorder or bad relationship to food. Now, because we call it intermittent fasting, because we see all the health benefits of doing it, people think like, oh, this is cool. This is just what I'm gonna do. It's more socially acceptable. Whereas, you know, 10 years ago, it wasn't socially acceptable for you to say, if someone came up to you and said, hey, how are you losing weight? Oh, I just, I don't eat on Tuesdays. People like, oh my God, that's terrible. It's socially acceptable now to say, oh, for weight loss, I fast. You know, I just don't eat. I still think that's a terrible approach. I think it's a terrible approach to use it for weight loss. I think it's a terrible approach to use any diet like that for weight loss instead of just eating in a way that's good for your body and the weight loss happening. Now, by terrible, too, I think you mean as the majority. I think it's terrible for the majority, although I think that it can actually be a great thing. You have to have a good, solid foundation. You have to have a good relationship with food first. Of course. I feel like there's levels to doing something like this. You can get stuck there. I mean, it's just like IFYM, where we had a problem there. It's like people just get stuck into this one operating mode, and that's what they're gonna stay with for long term. It's not gonna benefit. You have to be flexible, weave in and out, and you have to use these tools sparingly. Use them when it's appropriate. There's two major eating, I guess, dysfunctions that I see that come from people who abuse fasting. One of them is I don't eat, and then when I eat, I binge or eat a bunch of shitty food. That's one where I see people try to correct that they ate a bunch of crap by fasting, and then they justify it, and so it's on or off, on or off, and it's extreme. That's one. Then the other one is the obvious one, which is people who just fast, just far too often, and then when they do eat, they still eat too little, and so they just end up constantly in this crazy deficit, and those are the two problems. But aside from that, if you have a good relationship to food, it's fascinating to me, and it just makes so much sense when you think of it from an evolutionary standpoint. If you're not eating anything, your body is in bur- and this is what the scientist said. You're either burning or storing. You're not doing both. He's like, your body's either trying to store or it's trying to burn. Those are the two kind of operating systems. Just like when you're trying, and obviously sometimes one's happening, the other one's happening, and many times it's balanced, so you end up kind of the same, but it makes perfect sense, and eating constantly all the time is kind of confusing that a little bit, and like he said, the research shows that ends up slowing down the metabolism. There was a mouse study that was just published, and again, this is with mice, but many times this point scientist in a direction with humans, a 24-hour fast and mice sped up their metabolism, and they think the reason why it sped it up is because it stimulated stem cells that end up turning into new cells post-fast. And I've experienced this, and I've told you guys this, I've said this many times on the show. When I do my, because I just did one this weekend, I did like 36-hour fast this weekend, when I do my 48 or 72-hour fast, I do notice that two to three days after the fast, when I start refeeding, I get like this muscle-building fat loss, kind of like amped up effect, and what they said in the mice is that kind of happened, and they think that has to do with the fact that your old cells die off, and then when you refeed, because you have all these stem cells that are stimulated, they turn into new cells, and that process itself, I guess, speeds up the metabolism. Yeah. Yeah, how many months you going on now? Interesting. You're a good six, seven months of consistently doing that. I'm really learning how to use it when I need it. It's been a very valuable tool for me and my gut issues, which are for sure immune-related, for sure. Here's another connection I made with my gut. If I'm starting to have a really bad immune reaction, if I take an antihistamine, it actually helps a little bit, which tells me that there's, for sure, that type of an immune reaction that's happening as well. What are you using for an antihistamine? Like Zirtac, Zirtac or whatever. Oh, really? What other ones are there out there? Claritin, Zirtac, you know, Benadryl, make you drowsy. Yeah, yeah. So I went on the, I'll visit forums with people who, because you can read people's experiences in a lot of these forums and the sciences that support it yet, but you can see a lot of anecdotes, right? It's just thousands of people on some of these forums. And sure enough, lots of people with irritable bowel syndrome type symptoms and stuff like that say that they do get symptom relief with an antihistamine like Claritin or Zirtac. Now, the reason why I put that together is I have another strange symptom that I never connected until recently is every once in a while, I'll get like very small and random hives on my body, very random. And it's nothing crazy or nothing for me to worry about. It has nothing to do with the herpes or anything. No, it's not my herpes. Thanks, Adam. Yeah. A couple of times a year. It's in remission, but I don't have herpes. So anyway, I just want to put that out there. Yeah, make sure I put that. Not on my genitals. But I'll get every once in a while, I'll get these hives and then I started connecting that when that would happen, my gut would be off. Now, is this related? And I remember we talked with Dr. Ruscio and you talked about certain foods that promoted histamine. And you started to eliminate that, but then you started reintroducing it. Now, do you notice, like as you've learned that about yourself and you've eaten like those foods that have histamines, how's that affecting you? I haven't connected that to the hives yet. But what I have connected is that it's just a systemic immune response. Like when my gut is off, it's my immune system that's causing the problem because it's reacting to foods or whatever, right? And when my immune system's off, it's gonna be, it's gonna, it probably will display symptoms of autoimmune, which may be increased rates of asthma. It may be more skin issues. Like Adam will start to notice his psoriasis starts to flare up more. It may be itchy eyes, it may be running nose, it may be congestion, it may be sleep apnea. By the way, sleep apnea is strongly connected to, well, I don't wanna say strongly connected because it's still loose, but anecdotally speaking, and a lot of functional medicine doctors say snoring and sleep apnea might be less due to the fact that you're overweight because they always say, oh, you're overweight or you have to get your tonsils removed. No, more likely due to the fact that you have food intolerances. So people have those issues. They're finding go away when they treat the food intolerance issues. Bro, it could be your cheese. I'm going through this process for this competition. Oh, what did you, what have you guys started so far? I don't know if I wanna review. Are we not letting each other know the trade secrets here or what? I'm not afraid, I'll talk about it. It's fine. No, I'm going all carnivore diet. Oh, shit. So you're eliminating vegetables too? All of it. I'm so gonna fuck you up. Did you start that already? Yep. When did you start that? I started like maybe three days ago. Fuck off. Yeah. So just meat. I won't fuck off. Yeah. I'll fuck in. Yeah. Yeah. No, I just started eliminating all that and then upped my butcher box. And this is a free plug for them. But I made sure that I got like as much meat as I could in the house and stocked up. And so I'm just trying it out because it's something that caught my interest was, and you mentioned sleep apnea. I was listening to Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan. Oh, he did say that. And he said that it really helped him wake up in the morning. He felt like all this energy. That was the thing that got me, not like Dr. Sean Baker. I wasn't like, I mean, it was a great compelling case. He was promoting with it. But for me, I just was like, well, why don't I try something I've fasted before? I've done that. Have I ever done just a meat-specific diet for a couple of weeks? No. So I just figured that it would be worth experimenting. So to see... Sure. 30 days it gives a shit. Yeah. And maybe there are some vegetables that are promoting some intolerance that I need to address. But I'm going to reintroduce it and kind of work my way through. Now, day three, how are you feeling? Great. How's your poops? You're full on. Fine. Like you're full on already. Like there's no... You're not kind of doing a little bit... It's funny. One of the questions in the car is about carnivore. You can do it. Okay, cool. Yeah, because I want to get into it now, but we'll wait until we get to the question. Yeah, that's crazy, dude. That's fucking crazy. Look at this guy that's going to be all undercover and not say anything. Well, of course. He's singing now. Yeah. So I don't know, man. I just was like, this is something I want to do because it's more health-driven. I know we're all trying to, you know, promote our physiques and shit. I can give a shit about that. Like I just want to get healthy. She's going to beat us, bro. I would say that if I was the fat guy, too. Dude, all you're doing, I just realized something, Adam. What you're doing is you're making him super motivated. No, you feel, anybody say shit like that. It definitely fuels me. Yeah. So you got to do the opposite. I'm excited. Justin, you're doing a good job. Hey, handicapping off. I'm so good at that. You're doing a good job, Justin. I don't listen to anybody. I do this all 100% for myself. You look so good. You look so good already. I know, and you hurt your back. Yeah, dude. Showing off. God, I'm an asshole. You tried too hard, man. You're such an asshole. Well, I was warming up with some weight and then you went to try to deadlift it. This is why I don't work out with nobody, dude. You know the worst part about Taylor? I don't even know what he's talking about. He's like, I wasn't even looking at him. I was like, does it matter? It's because you were around. You know what I'm saying? He was just solid. We were dead. He was working out with me. Enzo and him have been lifting. We've been all lifting together whenever I can, right? And Taylor got his workout in with me. And it was a back day, right? We're deadlifting. And I just felt great, man. I was feeling strong and just weight going on. You saw my video. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure it was a little bit of all that shit. You know what I'm saying? You got me, dude. You fucking brain injured me a little bit there. I didn't even know. I even tagged you guys. Awesome. I know. I did that so funny. Yeah. So, you know, it affected me at all. Pulled the 405 up and it was just coming up like butter the first set. And I was like, man, this is the, I hadn't pulled 405 for reps. I think I pulled five or six reps, really clean, beltless, everything. And felt so great. Ran it back the second, the next set. And on the third, second or third rep, I heard this pop when I was about midway up and I just let go of the bar. And like instantly kind of felt my back start to seize up and I thought, oh God, please no walking around. And then I realized like, oh, shit, I'm done. So it's been one of my own day three. It's a muscle pull though. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm okay. Like I know that I've been here before where I've, you know, again, this is a just an old, we talk about it all the time. Like we preach all this shit all day long. And if there's any way, and this is again, another reason why I like to train by myself. When I can train by myself, it's easier for me to take ego off. It's easier for you to be smart. It's easier for me to be smart. I don't even have this temptation. If I'm by myself, there's no one to show off for, you know what I'm saying? And I know my own limits. It's like, I would be happy that I was pulling the 405, but I wouldn't go back to trying. I could, I could, I could totally see that because I work out with Jessica and she keeps me straight. Right. She's very, she's smart with the training, both of us are pretty, and it works out great. But I can see working out with younger guys. That might, Of course. Especially when they're making comments like, damn, dude, you could pull that up. Yeah. Watch this. I can do a lot more than that. Yeah. Exactly. You have no idea. I can actually do a lot more. The two times. That's a trap. The two or three times we worked out together. It's like without even, without us realizing it starts to turn into that kind of shit. Oh, it ramps up quickly. Super fat. There was that one time we were deadlifting at Justin's old gym. So I want to know, I want to, I should ask you this because I ramped. Can I overdose on turmeric? I mean, I've been, I've been chewing the fucking organic turmeric pills like candy right now. Can I OD on turmeric? Not tech. I mean, of course you can overdose on anything. I mean, I'm doing eight pills a day. No, you're fine. That's what I do. Okay. I do eight pills a day. Is there, is there like a too much or can it be? If it upsets your stomach. Sure. Okay. If you start to smell like too much. Well, I was already doing it four and four. I thought about kicking it thrown in the middle there too. But if you're doing fish oil, I am doing our fish oil too. I would go eight, eight capsules of fish oil also. With the eight of 16 pills? Take them together because the fat helps the turmeric get absorbed. You trust him during competition mode? Oh yeah. You trying to fuck with me right now? No, listen. That's something about me. That's something about me. I'm straight up when I'm fucking with you. If I, I'll post a video and tag you and that's, and you know, like, he's fucking with me. I'm not sneaky. I won't lie. I don't want to win. Listen, I don't want to win because I lied or because I tricked you. I want to win because you tried your hardest. I tried my hardest and I won. I agree. That's when it matters. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to free. It doesn't feel like a win if you fucking, you know, some sneaky shit. I hear you saying that. I still don't trust you. Yeah. You know what? Justin doesn't trust you and I. You think you're a conspire? I don't know. Well, now that I know he's on, now that I know he's on all meat and stuff like that, I'm going to be slagging carbs in it all these years. Oh yeah. I'm going to start for it. I'm going to make a steak for him. I'm going to make a steak for him, but I'm going to put like grains of rice. I can stick it in there. Just inject it. Yeah. A little bit of starch just to throw you out. Yeah. Sugary water. Yeah, no. No, I'm not going to do that. It's going to be, you know what my goal is? My goal is to, we'll do this contest. That's going to be fun. I really want to pull 600, dude, before I turn 40. Nice. That's next year. Let's do it. That's a big goal, man. I know. And I want to do it while not weighing too much over 200 pounds, maybe around 205, something like that. It's funny that that's yours and I was telling Katrina the other day. No, sorry. And that's 600, 580. I can, I'll go for six. Let's say 600. Dude, that would be a good number. I've pulled 600 before, but I was a big fucking heavy fucker. Yeah. I don't want to do that. I want to do it while staying close to me. I should probably gain some weight, dude. We'll see, dude. We'll see if my, you know, if my gut health is good, you guys are fucked. Listen, if my gut health is good, you're done. Where's everybody weighing right now? I'm telling you right now. Where's everybody weighing right now? I know where everybody's at. Where are you weighing now? I'm around 200 probably. You're at two flat right now? Yeah, right around 20. Justin, where are you at 20? You're at 220 right now? What are you at? 218. You're at 218? Right there, right there? Yeah. All right, let's see what happens. Yeah. Let's bring it. It's on like Donkey Kong. Bring the bird. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from R. Lewis 7991. What should you do when you hit a plateau and cannot gain muscle or even strength? Just give up. Give up. Yeah. Next question. You hit your genetic potential. Wouldn't that suck? Yeah. That was the advice. Sorry. You're not building any more muscle. You know, so the kind of people that tend to ask this question, because I think to myself, like, okay, the average person, when they plateau, they probably just need to eat a little better and maybe work out more. But when people tend to ask this one about, I can't gain muscle or strength, I feel like he's probably doing too much. Like he's pushing too hard. This was me. When I was a kid and I would plateau, my MO was, oh, that means I need to do more drop sets, more failure on my sets. I need to add more exercises. And I did that for a long time. And it took me a while to figure out that the answer was to do a little less. I think it tends to be, for sure, me and the people that I train that would fall into this category are the ones that tend to be following a similar type of a routine. Like that's not... All right. They don't change it over. They don't periodize their workouts. They stick to one kind of modality. They're constantly chasing building muscle or strength, which can be very closely related. And so a lot of their programming looks very similar. At least for me, this was a lot of the challenges that I had. I would hit these plateaus. And then when I looked into it, I'd always think it was, oh, I wasn't training hard enough or had something to do with my diet, which of course those areas or intensity and diet have a big role to play. But many times, I was just stuck doing the same types of exercises or the same rep range, same rest period. And so there's a lot of variables that I think that you can manipulate and play with that. Or what I would do is I would manipulate one of them. Like, oh, I was... Just a tiny change. Yeah, a small change. And it's too close to what my body was already used to. It needs to see something else to shock the system. Yeah, because what I've done in the past with people like this is I'll have them do a radical change. Like, okay, so you're doing 10 to 12 reps and your rest periods are 30 seconds and you're doing lots of sets. What we're going to do is we're going to cut your sets in half or do less exercises, more sets per exercise. You're doing low reps and you're resting longer between sets. And what I would do in between that switch many times, which is... Because here's the deal. If you're at this point where you're pushing your body so hard and it's plateaued, many times a week off and then a switch works better than just going straight to the switch. Sometimes they both work, but many times what I've done to people, especially in this particular situation that I'm explaining is I'll say, okay, take a week off and then the next week when you come back, you're going to start a completely different type of work. That works really well when it's what you're saying. When it's somebody who has been hammering their body so much, they're training five to seven days a week minimum and there's a lot of volume in their workouts. That's an incredible suggestion. If it's somebody who's not so crazy and they've hit a hard plateau, my suggestion would be to go the opposite way. So if you're somebody who like Sal saying, low rest periods, 10 to 12 reps, then giving you these longer rest periods, lower reps. Now, if you're somebody who's doing the lower reps, long rest periods, then actually going up to 15, 20 reps and super setting and doing that type of training could... Oh yeah, that's where I'm at right now. What Sal was mentioning is probably more common in our space as far as like gym people, but for me it was always like I tend to love the low reps and rest kind of a phase versus the high reps and the hypertrophy and the super setting and that type of training. So that just is an indication that I need to step into that and definitely shock my system and never give up. I think what Sal is saying is less common, but maybe in his experience, but in mine, that's what I see. I see it even ourselves. When I look at and evaluate all of us in this room, if there is a weakness in our programming training, is that we all typically even ourselves tend to gravitate toward the things that we love to do the most. How many times have you walked in the studio and seen Sal doing 15 to 20 reps and super setting it with an exercise? You know what I'm saying? That's not a favorite of his. He's admitted that on the show plenty of times. Like I never, before you guys, I'd never trained one to three reps. I never did that before. And so I think if it's, most people tend to gravitate towards what they're good at and you've probably gotten really good at the way you're training right now, which is why you've seen a halt in your strength. The other day I was, we were here kind of late. Oh no, I got in here in the morning. Justin was fucking sweating his ass off and he was doing maps aesthetic, right? Which is so different from how you normally, by the way, how did you feel after that workout? Did you overdo it or was it alright? No, actually no. That has been the game for me is to really do this. And again, like Adam, I'm susceptible to that, like being caught, if there's people around me like loading more weight, going less reps, like really trying to press myself in that direction. So for me to go less weight and more reps, I really have to like get into my own zone and my own corner. And so no, I didn't overdo it, but at the same time I was fucking beat, dude. I was taxed. Did you get super sore? I was sore, but I wasn't like super sore. You know, I was like just sore because there's new stimulus, but my overall energy has been increasing as a result. Really? Yeah. So you're feeling better? Yeah, I'm feeling a little better actually. We awakened to be split. I started split. And you did split? Yeah, yeah. No, I'm on the third. Dude, we wrote that shit really well. Yeah, I am very impressed with ourselves. I know. You know what? That's on you. You know, I tell you what, I get caught up in my own shit sometimes where I want to go in and just do what I feel. I know. But sometimes you got to follow a program because when we wrote it, we were in the right state of mind. We weren't working out. There was no egos. It was like, okay, we're writing this for other people. It was well made. I'm so glad. There's a bit of freedom in it, you know? Like really just going off of a plan versus like drumming it up as you're getting to the gym. Well, I'm really glad that I waited. I waited until I felt like I had increased the volume in my current training to even warrant moving over to split. And I probably, after feeling what I felt like after the first two days of training split, I could have even followed more of a red or black protocol for a little bit longer before because I definitely got sore. It got me. It definitely got me. I hadn't basically focused on a single muscle, one or two muscle groups like that in an entire workout. And we definitely put some stuff in there. So, you know, if I do want to, if this person is looking for me to mention or for us to mention like one trick to change or to break through a plateau, although they don't work nearly as well as like what we're talking about earlier where you change your routine completely or take a week off, there is one thing that I've used in the past, one small thing that I've added. And whenever I add it, I do see myself break through a plateau and that's occlusion. Occlusion is silly as it is, you know, as it sounds. It's so different, though, which is great. Dude, and I haven't done it in a while and I'm saving it. I'm saving it for the end of this contest. But when I used it on my calves and my arms, it was like, boom, I saw, you know, muscle growth right away. And all I did was add it to my routine and change anything else. Dude, my favorite video you've done so far is when you occluded your biceps. Oh, yeah. That was hilarious. Oh, I teach you how to make it thumb now? Yeah. If I were to give one piece of advice to this person, I would say, look at your rep range, look at your rest period, look at your exercise, change all three of those variables and try and change them as dramatically as possible. So if your rest periods, if you're leaning towards the higher end where you're resting 90 seconds or more, go to really, really short rest periods. If your rep range is really high reps, then go all the way down to low rep range or flip it if it's advice for your exercises. You can follow whatever, whether you're doing a split or an anabolic full body type of routine. You can still follow all that but flip all your exercises on its head. So if you change all three of those stimuluses, I can't imagine your body not responding. What happens is you tend to, like I said, gravitate towards two or three that you tend to like. And changing exercises, I cannot... No, well... Even just changing exercises, I can't stress enough how impactful it can be and how much I forget sometimes. I incorporate the snatch grip high pulls and I've been fucking doing shrugs and training my traps forever. Did that? Boom. Incorporate power. In general, a lot of people avoid power, right? So that's a great way to stimulate new results. Did you guys see our boy, Ben Pollock, actually switch... You know that guy as massive as he is and as strong as he is? Never has done a lunge. Wait, never? Say that again. Yes. His squats are going to go through the roof. I know. So I think... Has he done splits? Yeah, I was going to say, has he done any Bulgarian splits? None of that. This shit's going to go through the roof, dude. I know. I'm excited to see how his body responds. I saw... He just posted on his Instagram like maybe a week ago or so. And it shows him with the 45s, which is so funny to see even just one plate on the bar for him. Well, the fact that he's probably... It's probably difficult for him because he's never done it. He's probably getting a crazy pump. Those gains in that are going to carry on. You can just... The stability he's going to create going back into his... Look at when you guys get a chance. Go to his Instagram. Look at the video of him doing it. And you could just see what a new stimulus it is for his body. He's so used to, you know, being on both feet and squatting heavy ass fucking weight, just putting 135 on his back and lunging forward. Wow. You can just see his body having to work. What a great experiment. He's going to explode. What a great experiment. Right. So again, that's another example of like, you know, I think you can probably find some movements. Dude, he competed at powerlifting while he was like cutting down for, you know, bodybuilding. Oh, there's... Holy shit. There's the video right there. He's crazy. You're looking at it, Doug. Yeah. There you go. Look at it, 135. You see him. 15 years of lifting and six years of powerlifting. This was the first time doing lunges for him. Oh, yeah. Look at that. You can totally tell. Oh, right? Oh, yeah. See, it's that back... It's that split stance stability that he's having issues with. Oh, great, dude. Look at how he's concentrating. Really hard, yeah. You know what's the thing about it? I get it, man. You know what I like about him a lot is that because he's lean, you could clearly see the type of muscle development you get with heavy training. Yeah. And he has very dense-looking muscle and he has a very strong-looking core. I mean, his obliques are insane. And that's because the fucker deadlifts and squats. Yeah. Shit tons of weight. He's got nothing but load carried on his back all day. Yeah, man. You want to build that quality-looking muscle and our bodybuilders talk about muscle maturity. Lift heavy. Yeah. That's where you get it, man. For those of you that are listening that obviously you guys can't see and stuff like that, you guys can look up our boy, you know, Ben, at PHDeadlift on Instagram and he does all kinds of great videos. Really, really smart guy. He's been on our YouTube channel. Yeah, good friend of ours. Right. All right, next question is from Sprickers. Dr. Terry Walls advocates eating at least six-eight servings of vegetables each day. Dr. Sean Baker advocates eating only meat, eating six-eight servings of veggies seems like a lot and eating none doesn't sound ideal either. When it comes to eating vegetables, how do we find our individual minimum effective dose? Well, first of all, I think we should start with, I don't think that Sean Baker advocates eating only meat. I don't think he's telling people that it's the ideal diet for most people. Did you get that from him? He's not saying maybe that specifically but he's definitely advocating for the carnivore diet. Yeah. And saying how and he's pushing for people to move in that direction to experience it, I think. Yeah. And he does say a lot of stuff like vegetables contain things that cause immune reactions or your body doesn't want to digest them. And, you know, here's the thing with diet that I think we need to, and this is why it's so crazy. This is why information is so conflicting. And this is why we've had them both on the show. Yeah. This is why it's so conflicting. And polarized right away. When it comes to nutrition, the information we can get, you can read one study that says, this new study shows that eating a, you know, mainly vegetable-based diet reduces risks of cancer. Oh, this study shows a keto diet reduces risk of cancer and inflammation and diabetes. Oh, this study shows paleo. This study shows Mediterranean diet. Like here's the deal when it comes to nutrition. The, your individual body and your immune system, which plays a massive role in how you react to food and how you assimilate food, your immune system is a fingerprint. It literally is very individual to, to you. And you'll be more similar to people you're related to than you will to people you won't. This is why you'll see people and families tend to eat better or tend to do better on similar diets than people who aren't. It's an immune, it's, it's your fingerprint. This is why we'll find people who do really, really well on a carnivore diet or you'll find people who do really, really well on a vegan diet. There is no one diet that is best for everybody and people need to be, because people debate the shit all the time. Yeah. Like they're debating math. You know? No, it's like they debate math. Like one plus one is to equate to the same thing. No, it's not the same at all. Now I think the reason why the, and I know you're, you're trying the carnivore diet, Justin, the reason why I think a lot of people do well on the carnivore diet or not a lot of people, but the people who say they do well on it, do well on it. Cause what they're eliminating it's what they're not eating. It has nothing to do with the fact that it's just me. I'm very aware of that. And that's, and that's really the point of doing it for me is like, this is like an elimination. Exactly. Exactly how I'm using it is an elimination diet where, you know, I'm just focused on one thing where I've, I can now reintroduce things and then see how that affects my body, pay attention to the signs and signals and move forward, but I'm not going to stay, you know, just eating meat regardless of if I feel awesome, right? That's not flexible. That's not like a long-term strategy. And it all goes down to, you have to look at the context of evolution always whenever you look at these things and humans, there were many times that humans were very few of us on Earth. We almost starved, almost died or died out because of whatever, you know, the ice age or just life is fucking hard for a human in the natural world without technology, without, we take all that for granted. And so we lived through periods of eating whatever was around us. I guarantee you ancient humans ate insects. I guarantee you that. I guarantee you they ate a lot of plants. You think of, you think a caveman is going to walk by edible plants and be like, no, I'm a carnivore. No, they ate it. If it was there, they ate it. Do vegans have a problem with eating insects? I'm just curious. No, I don't think so because insects aren't cute. Yeah, if insects were cute, they would have a problem. Yeah. Buggy eyes. Yeah, you never see them trying to save. Little mandibles. Yeah. But you know, again, would a caveman turn down, you know, a hunted woolly mammoth and be like, no, I'm sorry, I'm a vegan. I only eat. No, man, they ate... You're hungry. No. And there's a large, long periods of time where all they ate was meat or all they ate were plants or all they ate was both or they ate nothing. This is why fasting is so healthy because humans routinely went without food for long periods of time. So you got to look at it that way. What's the right effective dose for you? This is the advice I give everybody when it comes to nutrition. There's general rules. Here's a general rule. Avoid heavily processed foods. I think that's true for everybody. That's one that I think is is mostly true for everybody Heavily processed foods haven't been around that long They are designed an engineer to be highly palatable. So good luck trying to figure out Whether or not you're eating enough or eating too much or whether you're hungry or not because those foods are designed to fuck with all that shit I I experienced that Recently I was you know eating dinner and I found myself full But I for sure could grab potato chips anymore even though I knew I was full my stomach hurt But I could for sure grab potato chips. So that's you know, that that's something to pay attention to I'd say avoid heavily processed foods Don't Over eat all the time don't eat until you're uncomfortable. That's another one other than that a lot of things are kind of up For for grabs and you got to kind of listen to your body Like if you're eating a lot of meat and you're finding your digestion is off You're not sleeping. Well, you feel inflamed. I've had clients who had an intolerance to meet where they couldn't eat red meat For example, although that's rare rare but can happen. I would tell that person medium rare not to eat Not to eat much meat. I've also known people to have intolerances to most vegetables like Dr. Sean Baker Christina Rice is someone like that She can eat a lot of vegetables because they talked they start to bother her I would tell that person listen to your body, but your body changes to by the way So let's say Justin does a carnivore diet and feels fucking amazing, right? He would be an idiot to think that he's gonna force himself to eat like this forever I would eat like this until you start noticing that oh, you know some things kind of be off and That happened to me with keto like keto makes me feel really good But I notice if I'm on it for too long I get some detrimental effects and I start to get benefits Yeah, I Anticipate that's gonna happen, but you know, I don't know I'm gonna go through the process and see well This is a little bit like we talked to with dr. Drew about the other day Just you know with the experience with keto my experience with keto just you know, I think it's I think it's really Advantages for us to just rotate through a lot of these diets and pay attention to how you feel when I used to coach clients This is exactly what I would do they would ask well What kind of diet we're gonna fall well first of all we're gonna file any diet first thing We're gonna do is I'm gonna assess how you normally eat So you're gonna track and show me what you currently do and then we can start to okay Well, let me and I what I'd like to do is I always like to take them to the other side, right? So if you're somebody who's like Gravitated towards sugar and lots of carbohydrates, then yeah, I know running so or I paleo or a ketogenic type of style would be a great way Let's see how your body responds when we do this and then let's see what it responds when we go vegan Let's see what it responds when you do like a zone type of dad Let's see what it how your body is responding to all these different And I think that you got to be careful of is when you see the results because what happens the most people Right, then they become very dogmatic. Oh my body just does so well with this Well, does it do so well or are you so far on the other side for so long that you made the switch? And so your body is thanking you for that finally Maybe it'll do that again six months down the road when you decide to switch out of that diet into another right? So even dr. Mercola who's like the the god of the godfather of keto, right? He's the godfather of eat no carbs eat lots of fat He's been talking about this for decades on on the internet Even he now advocates for once a week eat enough carbs to kick yourself out of ketosis He even says that that's probably healthy and beneficial So I mean and I coach people now I have people now that I don't work with a lot of people Just a few like I've said before to keep my finger on the pulse of what's going on But they're radically different I'll have clients that and I what I typically do when I when I coach someone as I'll give them You know three or four days a week of a low-carb option and three or four days a week of a higher-carb option And then we observe and see how they feel now most people are kind of okay with both because it's not extreme I don't go extreme high-carb and extreme low-carb. We'll just kind of but I do get the occasional people who they'll give me You know feedback like oh man the low-carb days. I feel terrible. I have no energy. I don't feel strong in the gym I don't have good sleep and then I'll get the opposite opposite where people tell me oh man The low-carb days feel the best for me. That's what I have the most energy And so then we start to kind of lean towards What is feeling better for that person right? I tried the carnivore diet and it's funny because I Got a lot of flak for this from people because they're like you got to stick to it longer You got to go through the initial period or whatever look Okay, I went into the carnivore diet after a fast and after that and before that fast I was eating keto so it wasn't that big of a difference not very dramatic Yeah, the difference was that I just didn't eat vegetables I also know my body very well, and I know the difference between my digestive system adjusting to a new diet versus Having a major Reaction to not eating the way my body wants to and needing to come out of it So two three days later carnivore diet I couldn't do it. I had to have vegetables because I what I was experienced was Nobel movements and then the opposite which was like a flood and it was not good and I could tell my immune system wasn't reacting Well, so I came out of it. I didn't need to go longer. I didn't need to see if I can stick to it longer You know if it worked the other way would I have continued longer? I just would have listened to my body So you kind of have to do that for yourself The what I typically recommend clients do is eat more vet usually people need to eat more vegetables in my experience They usually do better eating more vegetables. I agree well cooked vegetables seem to be easier to digest for most people So that's another thing too. So if I tell people Okay, you're only eating one serving of vegetables a day. Let's double it and go to two I don't typically recommend they go to a raw, you know raw vegetables right away I'll say let's go well cooked because that seems to be easier for people to digest and I'll slowly increase their vegetable intake Until they're like, I don't want any more vegetables or I'm not feeling that good And then I back off a little bit and then we find out what that sweet bottom line is You got to pay attention to yourself, right? And look at these things like energy mood your sleep your libido you're digested and like your stool like pay Yeah, pay attention all those things and you know, you may be somebody who you know When you lean more towards an all meat diet you feel better on you Maybe someone who leans more towards like a vegan type diet you feel better or you might feel great right in the middle So it really just depends on how how you feel. Yeah, I feel personally. I feel best when I have a serving of vegetable With every meal. I agree. Are you the same one? Yeah, I'm the same way too But and part of that for me is it actually help so I like when I look at my plate Like I I tend to go to the vegetables first and then I go to the meat and fat and the last thing I do is the carbohydrate So I like it just because of that too It kind of keeps me because it for most of my life. I was the opposite. I was starched Fill up on the starches the potatoes and the rice is impostas and you know Brad and just drill all that and then maybe I get to the meat and then rarely ever get to my vegetable where I've just Kind of flipped the order of eating and not only do I feel better But it also keeps me from overindulging on certain foods that I probably shouldn't something else I've noticed that that's interesting. I'm gonna keep paying attention to and I did I wanted to bring this up And I forgot to I seem to do better because now I'm having more starches I seem to do better when I have the starches by themselves so if I eat my protein and fats and vegetables That seems to I seem to digest it better when I have that by itself and then later an hour or two later Or whatever just have the starches all by themselves Which is counter to what I used to think which was have the fats and proteins to blunt the insulin response But it my digestion wasn't as good now I've I've read I know in Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic medicine they recommend not combining starches with Proteins and fats and I think it's interesting right I'm gonna keep paying attention to that and see how that how that feels for me So we'll see next question is from Jud Johnson 35 What are your best alternatives to amphetamines to help the younger generation focus when they need to be productive? This is a crazy this has got to be a response to riddling what we've been talking about we talked about this with Dr. Drew You see Dr. Drew's response. Oh, yeah, he was so angry. He didn't want to talk about yeah Yeah, he said that the medical community is doing with amphetamines what they did with with opiates Because right now we're an opiate epidemic, but right on its heels is an epidemic Which is gonna pass it the way it's going right now Well, we're giving it to like kids. They're just handing them out like too frivolous It's one what is it one out of every ten kids is on amphetamines young kids and the doses they give them I mean you you guys remember when we all tried You know was it riddling or Adderall at 10 milligrams or we're all like holy shit This is powerful and then I and then I looked up like how much they give to kids and Oftentimes kids will take twice that much young kids eight years old. It's crazy You imagine giving a kid 20 milligrams of fucking makes me angry. Yeah, that's it's insane to me I think I think part of the problem and I remember in the was it magic pills or what was the documentary? Take your pills. I don't want you to see a magic pills. Take your I think Yeah, really, that's like cross over there No, I think that one of the one of the moms in there I think he hit it hit it on the head which was you know, I used to just take him outside and run and exercise and Get him outside where I feel like we live the generation coming up now You're just so glued to your computer screen and we're so sedentary That it's just they're wound up They're just wound up and all that it's hard for them to settle down and focus on one thing And of course, there's exceptions to the rule and this is a total overginalization, right? But I think that's a first place that I would go is to getting them more physical active Disconnected from the electronics and then see how that starts to help them when they actually sit down and focus on a task I agree. There was a school in Texas that Triple recess time to try and combat this or work with us And they almost all this was the this was the article the news article they almost all but eliminated ADD symptoms in the kids because they had them go move. Here's the thing like your brain Your brain doesn't just produce, you know What it wants to it also receives feedback and then that kind of dictates how the brain operates and a lot of that is this the Your senses and some of the senses are sight and sound and smell and others are movement and touch and feel and experience and If you don't go out and move a lot because kids don't move nearly as much as they used to So I've noticed that as for my own kids I noticed that as a big one like if my kids are on their computers for two hours directly affects their mood hundred percent Yeah, and 100% like I I have to go and plan my day around getting them exercising getting them out getting them activities because and the it starts from the very moment we wake up. It's like You know, their mood is affected by you know The time it takes for Courtney and I to get out of bed and then they've been watching TV Or like being on some kind of electronic device and by the time we connect to them and start our day It's like that sets the tone. Yep. Yep, and then the other one is food when I see my kids eat Lots especially that's a sugar and lots of processed foods Mm-hmm I notice their ability to focus as much as much lower the more irritable and just harder to deal with and if You're a teacher and you know got these bunch of kids that are hard to deal with a drug like riddling or at all It's like a godsend like oh look at my class is listening. Yeah, everybody's paying attention The scary part the scary part about all this is it fucking works, of course, you know I'm saying that's that's the scary part Is that that this that's why it's so popular, right? But here's the thing that dr. Drew said that I thought was brilliant is he's like yeah They do a study with these things for one or two months and you're gonna get great results You keep someone on this stuff for years. Yeah, you start to see some interesting things that start to happen because amphetamines are connected to mental disorders Schizophrenia's or you know gonna have detrimental effects of the brain. I can't see that it won't I don't know like I Well haven't haven't didn't one of you Didn't you share an article with us that like almost all the shootings that we've dealt with in the last like decade or Whatever had had had something to do with yeah, they're all on psychotropic type medications amphetamines and on Other types of medications. That's a hard one too because is it you know Nobody wants to hear that could be cause or effect to is it that they already are troubled And which is why they're on them or could because look we all know how how like the classic tweaker and How crazy they can behave and what they can do, you know Actually, I didn't even tell you guys my ex-wife's dad a fucking tweaker broke into his house in the morning when he was home Kicked his door down in the morning in the morning when he was home kicked the door down like how early it was like 6 a.m Oh my god, I doubt it kicks his door down and comes upstairs. He confronts the guy and the guy runs away Cops show up and they find the guy down the straight street breaking up breaking into cars He was obviously just not there. Yeah, just trying to get his fix We grew up my cousin grew up in a town that was like tons of tweakers And that's literally you have to be from midnight to four in the morning They're just we'll climb in someone's room, dude Just like climb in and just try and steal steal something they could turn around and flip and sell for 50 to 100 bucks real quick So they can get a fix they're very focused on one thing Consider all the Anything Yeah, no, I think I think some good alternatives are Scheduled activity has to be scheduled nowadays because it's not natural for kids to move a lot anymore And then watch their diet have them eat Diet that's low in sugar low in processed type foods And then pay attention to if your kid does better with more frequent feeding or less frequent feeding and one of the ways one of the Signals you can read for that is is your kid hungry? So because some parents will force feed their kids because it's a time hungry not cravings Right, right, right because yeah, they're asking for chips or you know all that kind of shit That's just a because they're craving a car that was a hard one for me because my especially my daughter She's just not she wants she likes to eat once or twice a day Yeah That was a hard for my youngest I was a hard one to deal with for me because I was raised like no you eat when we're supposed to and you force feed your kid So now I'll ask are you hungry and she'll say no and then that's it You know, I obviously I'm not a child dealing with this But I know just this just happened to me yesterday, right? So Saturday something I've been trying to get better route is you know I went back I saw family and so I completely set down the phone and didn't use it I didn't answer didn't get any social media didn't do none of that shit You know my problem with that is come Sunday morning or whatever when I open up. I've got a fucking bajillion DMs that I have to answer so I'm sitting there and I'm like answering on Sunday morning And it took me about an hour and a half two hours to get all the way through it And then I just felt this like Unmotivated like all-day long type of feeling and I remember telling Katrina because we were she was doing that She was working on like the house stuff and things that we're looking for for that So we were both kind of like on our phones and computer like all morning long And I'm like, you know what and I didn't want to do it I could I just felt like so with our just like let's get out. Let's just go for a walk Let's just go for a nice walk for about a mile or two And I remember she was coming and I don't feel like we have to do this with you I'm like, let's just break from what we're doing right now because I can feel I can just feel the energy I feel like that about what we're doing. I'm not I don't feel very productive anymore Got up took a walk and completely changed my mindset just being out in nature Not having my phone on me walking outside and then I was able to come back and get more work done So I don't know what you guys think about, you know, breaking up whatever the kids are doing whether you're they're doing homework or work For sure. Change the environment. Huge for sure a hundred percent. That's what that's what that school did They they tripled the recess time. Yeah kids scores went up. They were focusing more, you know They were it was easier for them to focus symptoms of ADD and ADHD went down I just think the the current environment of poor food Intake low activity recess is not even a thing anymore and they're cutting, you know, physical, you know physical classes or whatever Increased activity changed the process food thing changed the learning environment a little bit I think we wouldn't have a big issue and I know it's harder to do than giving people pills But is it really though? You know what do we what are we heading for? I don't know right? Next question is from oh Riley oh six. What are some of the top items off of each of your bucket lists before you die? Yeah, do you guys have anything like that? You know like big things where you're like, okay, this is something I want to do before I mean, I'll create one I don't really have any but I'll I'll think of something. Yeah, I'm sure I would create a bucket list Do you have one sound? Yeah? Well, uh, I want to definitely write a book Um before you know before I died something I want to do maybe sometime soon That's one. Um, I want to do a very very long maybe hike that have Appalachian trail Where you go and do like that long? You know hike where you're out there forever and have to drop your food off and I want to do something like that and I haven't really thought of anything else You know, that's a tough one. I want to um, I want to throw a hundred thousand dollars in ones at a strip club On the floor I think we cut it cool A hundred thousand dollars in one classic atom You know what you could I you could almost make it rain. You can almost donald duck you almost donald duck swim through A hundred thousand dollars Bro speaking of stupid money, you want to hear something just made me so furious this weekend. What furious? So Forbes magazine prints this article Kylie Jenner Is worth 900 million dollars. She's maybe the first billionaire under a particular age or whatever Fans have created these donation pages just to get her help her get there to help her become a billionaire. Wow Are you fucking kidding me? Wow Over so far over 90 you have to do it So far over 90 people have donated over two thousand dollars To get her to that shut I mean that's more important than curing disease. How sad is that that we're donating money to Fucking people just because we oh man. Can we redirect that money? It shows you the power of social media It shows you how bad people want rulers. That's what we want. We want like england has their royal family We do it with our celebrities like we want these people to we put them on a pedestal. We miss guided power. Stupid That's crazy. So dumb Just we want you to be a billionaire makes you angry Yeah, I don't you know bucket list wise. I don't I don't have too many I tend to like, uh, you know like Katrina and I do this a lot where we decided in the beginning of the year Like oh, we want to go here. We want to do that And we set that goal in the beginning of the year and we typically do it There's not a lot of things that I've said that I really really want Uh to do that. I haven't done yet, but I'm sure I'm sure this stuff will come up And I'm sure as we get older to where like I'm looking at the end of my life I think more like right now I don't feel like I look at my life that often where it's like you don't want to swim with sharks or something like that Yeah, yes And it's not to say that I wouldn't want to do some cool shit like that Like I'm definitely somebody who would be like, okay. I'm down for like, you know, I love the podcast like that You know what I'm saying? I want us to do some crazy crazy podcast with sharks. Yeah Well, I like what taylor taylor's idea of like podcasting in like the most crazy areas I think it would just be cool to be the ones who do that. So I mean you could put that on a bucket list Yeah, we want to do a hot air balloon. We want to do it under the sharks We could do some cool shit like that. That'd be fun. But I don't really have a crazy bucket list. I haven't thought about that I think yeah, I don't know about bucket because what we're doing right now kind of provides opportunity like as far as travel goes Like eventually I figure like we'll hit the spots. I want to go, you know, like I want to go to machu-pichu I want to go like, you know, egypt and like check out all the old ruins and all that kind of stuff But I mean that's not like anything that crazy, but I do have like this sci-fi book I want to finish it Well any idea that I've had that I haven't like fully Actualized like I want to fucking complete it. I want it to be out there in the world and be done So it's like I sponge it out from maybe we'll be the maybe we'll be the production company to support your exactly Well, this is what we've been building all the back end for all of my ideas. You guys didn't know that Can I be in it? Yeah, all right, cool. I feel bad. I feel bad for this person because I think it's a it could be an interesting question I just never sat down. Oh, I have another one for myself. I want to run for public office one day some kind of public office Really? Yes, damn. Uh-huh. You've tortured yourself. Uh-huh. Oh my goodness. I mean, we'll support you Yeah, I'll have a bumper sticker. Yeah, make sure you hide Yeah, I know I'm gonna piss everybody off That's scary, dude. I know it. Can you wait till we're like super super successful before you decide you Oh, I'm not thinking about doing anything Chances of you being assassinated. I've got to be like a 50-50. Oh, yeah for sure. 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