 the Apostle Paul's exhortation regarding spiritual gifts and a couple of things that he says. One is 1 Corinthians chapter 12 and verse 31 where Paul writes and he says, but earnestly desire the best gifts and yet I show you a more excellent way earnestly desire just want us to keep that in mind earnestly desire and another one is that we go to the 14th chapter verse 1 says purse you love and desire spiritual gifts and especially that you may prophesy. So we see that a couple of things couple of these in these couple of verses we see Paul instructing the Corinthian Church and saying you know earnestly desire earnestly desire desire spiritual gifts one more verse the this is again chapter 14 and verse 39 the last one was right verse 39 therefore brethren desire earnestly to prophesy and do not forbid to speak with tongue. So we see here the word desire being repeated earnestly desire desire and again desire earnestly. So as we pray this morning you know we see this reminder from Scripture to desire to earnestly desire and the word is a very strong word there so let's as we pray let's let's just remind ourselves and you know if we have been passive when it you know about these gifts we can you know we can just quickly make that adjustment and say okay God I want to earnestly desire earnestly desire and make that adjustment and say okay what are these gifts that we see listed here word of wisdom word of knowledge faith gifts of healings working of miracles prophecy discerning of spirits different kinds of tongues interpretation of tongues and so on so so we say Lord I earnestly desire I come before you and I desire and that word is Zillow which means if it's used enough it means it's a strong desire almost to covet and use negatively it could mean you know it could use it for lust it's such a strong desire so and it's biblical to have that kind of a strong desire for the things of the Spirit the gifts of the Spirit because we see that it is a manifestation of the Spirit right it's it's a it's the manifestation of the Spirit Holy Spirit so let's let's pray I just want you to pray in your own heart and check where you are right now and see that today right now as I look into my life is there that burning desire that expectation for the gifts of the Spirit for the Holy Spirit to to manifest these gifts in my life you know is there a burning desire whatever the gifts could be whatever the list that we saw so introspect check and see is there that burning desire if not we can come to that place of making that alignment and saying Lord I I want to earnestly desire I want to earnestly seek the manifestation of the gifts of the Spirit in my life because this is the will of God this is the perfect will of God that every believer should desire earnestly for the gifts of the Spirit to work in their lives right so so let's pray yes Father God this morning as we come before you God as we look into our own lives and we just want to want this word to be so true in our lives God that we would every morning every day every waking moment God that we would earnestly desire the best gifts that we would desire spiritual gifts and we would desire earnestly to prophesy Lord let this be part of our lives Lord maybe never forget this maybe never be passive Lord about what you've asked us to do God and specifically we're looking at this this morning and saying God whatever is causing that appetite to not be there whatever is cost that desire to go down Lord let that be removed let that be addressed whether it's willful sin whether it's compromise whether it's a rebellion whether it's fear whether it's ignorance oh God I pray a lot Lord I pray that you would shine your light that light of your word shine deep inside our hearts Lord and address those things master come Holy Spirit have your way come Holy Spirit have your way you know if there has been kind of a passive man is about the things of God that change right now in the name of Jesus that change right now in the name of Jesus the fire grows stronger and stronger the fire burns stronger and stronger we thank you Lord we thank you Lord we thank you Lord we thank you master hallelujah hallelujah Lord we thank you you said follow me follow me and I will make you fishes of men Lord even as we follow you Lord we thank you that you are making us you are making us molding us shaping us Lord into who you are called us to be Lord Father God we thank you Lord even today this day right now we pray that you would you would make us that you would make us into who you want us to be Lord make us Lord mold us shape us Lord hallelujah let our Lord enable us to seek you with all our heart with all our mind with all our strength enable us to desire Lord the manifestation of the spirit with all our heart with all our mind with all our strength with everything within us God because from you it is you through you Lord and it is off you Lord so there's nothing Lord nothing hidden God about it God you have made it very clear so we desire we lay hold of that for which you've laid hold of us Lord desire come with expectation come Holy Spirit have your way in us have your way within us Lord we thank you thank you we give you all the praise we give you all the glory in Jesus matchless name we pray amen amen okay so so that should be you know our perspective our outlook really not to be intimidated by you know the need you know the greatness of the need of the challenges before us you know maybe the not to be intimidated even by the problems that are before us the problems of people right but to turn to God and say okay God this is what you want me to do you want me to earnestly desire and when we're in that place of honestly desiring that's a place of faith because we are responding to what God has spoken so that's a place of faith and as we do that it is for the edification of the church so it is for the building up of the church that these gifts are released so in doing so the needs of people are met right so we see various needs being met by the gifts of the Spirit even as we look at these gifts we see that they address certain needs they because it's God addressing the needs of people it's and through people right through us as instruments of righteousness so so you know it's good so not to be intimidated not to be overwhelmed by the needs that we see not to be overwhelmed by suffering not to be overwhelmed by what we see around the need of the church but to really turn to God and say okay God this is what you want me to do right and the reason you want me to do this is because you want to show your strong on our behalf in the lives of people in my life so so that is what that is why you set this in place so that is why I seek you with all heart so that you can manifest your glory your strength you can show you that strong and and that's what ministry is about right praise God okay so last class I think we kind of stopped with gifts of healing we looked at what gives of healing is we saw that it is not a natural tendency of the body to heal in order to actually place that it is our body can heal naturally then we also have medical intervention because of which the body heals our body is restored and and it's all good but when we specifically look at gifts of healing it's not referring to any of that it is referring to a supernatural act of God through heal a person supernatural work of God which brings about healing in the lives of people and the healing and the healing sorry I'm sorry the healing could be physical and sometimes the healing is also in the mind they got to emotions and but the Lord brings about healing and there are you know various sources of sickness right the one primary source is because of because of the fall in nature like because of which sin entered and and you know because of which there is corruption the whole entire creation is in the bondage of corruption and we see those things happening in in the bodies and minds of in minds of people you know God's creations and and and God wants to heal us whatever be the source and it could be fall in nature it could be our own ignorance our own carelessness maybe or our own defiant abuse of the body certain substances and so on and God's desires that we be well therefore you know he releases this supernatural work in order to bring about healing so we call that gifts of things and the reason we look at and we call it gifts of healings is because there are multiple ways and all kinds of sicknesses and multiple ways in which the supernatural healing is brought about right is released by God okay so we looked at you know three we also looked at three ways in which healing generally comes about one is when a person you know a response to the word of God in faith response to the promise of God in faith about healing and and appropriates that word that promise and through that personal faith in God there is healing for the body so I believe God and I receive healing right so that has secondly it also because of the healing anointing the presence and the power of God released to bring about healing and the gifts of healing which is supernaturally God releases that and and that happens and also thirdly we saw that through God's presence and God's glory which could be a sovereign work of God so in all three ways in which healing is released we see that faith is involved in in maybe various degrees you know when there is the gifts of healing released well the recipient of the healing need not always have great faith right so it's the person who is believing God for healing person who's ministering God is using to minister healing that person has faith in and believes God for the gifts of healing to be released and stands in faith and the recipient may not necessarily have faith but still receives healing and in the third category through the God's presence through the glory of God we see that you know very rarely there is you know there's faith it's just the presence of God but there is expectation there is a seeking after God right after God's presence and and the presence of God solving we does the work of healing right so we see this and we also looked at some whole testament examples of healing we looked at the ministry of the Lord Jesus in which these the healing virtue was released and and the early church of course walked in I've been acceptor three acceptor four acceptor five we see several instances of people being healed Peter and John acceptor three the believers gathering together and praying for you know signs and wonders and have healing to happen acceptor four acceptor five we see that even as they are scattered because of persecution they sorry that is in acceptor eight even two people were scattered because of persecution they went about sharing the gospel and God confirmed it with signs wonders healings and so on so we see that that's something which is there in the in the early church and it's also available for us today God has not changed it's available for us today so let's look at you know how does the Holy Spirit initiate the release of the gift of healing okay so let me just put up the notes so how do we how do we do that you know as as ministers of God how how are these gifts release gifts of healing how is it released so the first thing is of course to declare what we see God doing okay so in our spirit you know is God declaring something is God's you know showing us something is God wanting to do something you know what is it that he's putting in your hearts you know like we've been learning and and many of you have been like sharing what God has been putting in your heart what God has been prompting so similarly when we get a prompting of what God wants done and what God wants to do we declare that we declare that so you know example in the early church is Peter Peter goes down to the believers who are a leader and he finds this man Aeneas who's been bedridden for eight years paralyzed and Peter says to him Jesus the Christ heals you okay so arise and make your bed and you see that similar to what he has actually physically seen the Lord minister arise take up your bed and walk to the man at the but the pool of Bethesda so he in fact uses the same same words and and the thing is that he he has seen something so he says Jesus Christ heals you right so we declare what the Lord shows us what he wants done or what he is about to do and we declare that we speak that out right secondly words of knowledge right we looked at words of knowledge information piece of information about maybe about the present it could be about the past so we release that let's say God shows that okay somebody is there with a particular condition okay and and that word can come through us in many ways it can be a prompting can just you know something rising up in our heart okay and this information you know this knowing in our heart I know that there is someone who's going through this kind of a condition or it could be something that God shows us you know you see a picture I know once you know ministering and then God actually showed you know so praying for this particular person that it was like a you know as a close man saw the lung and which part of the lung was affected and and and the very fact that God was showing that is because he wants to do something about it we need to understand that it's not just God is you know giving that information so you can pass on that information and you know and leave it at that right because God wants to do something based on that information that is something that is not right and God wants to do something about it right so we know that he's the healer some of the common names of God we know that he's healed so he wants to do something so we release that word of knowledge and and then you know God thinks about healing the gifts of healings are released true faith and prayer okay so we lay hands and we pray sometimes maybe you can anoint with oil or with the issue of command um and there is a healing that is released okay so we're going to learn a lot more in depth about healing and deliverance um you know in in the course um ministering healing and deliverance so I think this is the next year second year so you'll be learning a lot more in depth on healing different ways the basis for you know praying for healing why should we actually pray and so on okay and yeah so getting people to act on their faith that's also very very important so we see when Paul goes and preaches and so you know we read except the 14 this person heard Paul speaking and Paul observed that he had faith to be healed okay so Paul saw that and he knew in his heart that this man uh man's faith level was you know he had faith uh he had he had believed and he had faith in his heart so um so Paul says you know stand up straight on your feet and he obeyed and he leaped and walked so um so while God you know could heal in any of these ways we don't have to you know kind of introspect too much you know was it my faith was it their faith was it the collective faith of you know just that as long as that person has touched my God and healed we are we celebrate that we are happy right so um so that's about uh gifts of healings right so we uh how do we release that in all these ways we see what God is doing we through words of knowledge through laying of hands and prayer and through the working of faith um that we teach and then the person receives faith and the person is healed right so and many other ways so we're just sensitive to what God is leading and we and we speak the issue commands we release like healing right i mean the sense God uses us to release healing through us when we do this right okay um okay let's move on to the next one and then probably after that we'll take some questions and uh doubts you might have working of miracles okay so so what is the difference between healing and miracle you know both are of course supernatural it is a supernatural release of God's power uh which supernatural work of God but when we say miracles you know when we say healing it refers particularly to the body and it's a work which brings about healing restoration of the functioning of the body right the way it was designed right when you say miracles it's a wider scope it could be uh you know it could be uh something that is like for example if it's body you know if God brings about uh creative work you know a rest of the hour you know there's a let's say there is a internal organ which is missing completely and it's just God just brings that about you know there is God able to do it of course right maybe there's a you know maybe there's a kidney that is missing and there's only one kidney and then and there is a release of the working of miracles and because of which the other kidney is formed now that's a miracle that's not healing that's a miracle right it's a creative miracle where an internal organ which was missing which was not there is now there because of God's intervention right so it can be even supply of you know like the supply of oil to the widow and it can be a financial supply it can be so all these things which go against natural laws override natural laws and completely turn the situation around now that's a miracle we say that's a that's a miracle it's uh you know it could be even favor supernatural favor which brings about a miracle in let's say a work situation right and what what was totally unexpected is you know there's a turnaround and that's a that's a miracle right so we see in the old testament do we see miracles plenty of them right we see uh the lives of moses and the life of joshua the lives of all these men of God we see that there are many miracles like moses for example in Egypt the miracles that happen they're parting up the red sea turning the water sweet these are miracles right uh just to give us an example of what miracles are you know the scope of miracles um uh bread and meat which means supernatural supply uh for Elijah and the ravens came and fed Elijah now that's a miracle because you know that when you look at ravens or crows they their their food is bread and you know meat but they come and they feed okay it's a supernatural work it's a miracle multiplication of flour and oil again a miracle uh widow's son raised from the dead that's a miracle uh rain which means even the natural you know the weather being affected um rain after three years of doubt again a miracle and Elijah runs faster than horses which is again a miracle so we see all these are miracles which we listed in the old testament right uh and you know axe head is floating again a miracle right and in the life of Jesus in the new testament the ministry of Jesus we see similar works which are done by the holy spirit turning water into wine multiplying walking through a crowd and with no bodily harm we see that they're about to throw him off the cliff and then when you walk through them scripture says you walk through them and it's meant about so it's again a miracle the supernatural or the miraculous catch of fish that's again a miracle because he says Peter says that if you know look chapter five I think he says that we've fished all night and we've not caught anything and and he's the expert right he's the fisherman but the Lord Jesus says you know drop your nets for a catch on the other side and there is this miraculous catch of fish right so we see all this in the new testament so it's it's the same holy spirit same God who does this and Hebrew chapter two and verse four um has uh as this let me just read that says God also bearing witness okay how with signs and wonders and various miracles and gifts of the holy spirit according to his own will okay the verse before that talks about you know how can we escape if we neglect so great a salvation which was first spoken by the Lord and confirmed to us by those who heard him who are bearing witness right so it's talking about our day and time it's talking about the new testament church and God is bearing witness is testifying with signs wonders and miracles and gifts of the holy spirit okay so when it comes to miracles how do we how do we again pray minister receive in our own lives right um once again you know if we go back to what we sense in our spirit what the Lord is doing is this again a sense uh uh uh being sensitive to the moving of the spirit of God being sensitive to the fact that God wants to do something at that moment that he wants to do something which is miraculous something that's supernatural right um it can be through words of knowledge like we saw earlier it can be the God you know placing something in our hearts saying that he wants to do that uh it's also it can be something that is released that through God's presence anointing maybe it's a time of worship it's a time of prayer and you know there's a presence of God which is so powerful for powerfully experienced and and so maybe it's church meeting church service and the presence of God is so strong and worship is just continuing and and you being sensitive to your heart in your heart you God wants to do something miraculous I just want to testify that um this was one of our you know in one of our church camps I think this was I think this was the last but one church camp that we had and we had a it was the last session last day and we were supposed to have the worship time and then I think two sessions and then close uh close with lunch so that was it so started with worship and worship went on till lunch time you know which means a little bit about maybe three hours or three and a half hours just had worship and um and so um so everything in all the sessions were kind of cancelled and we just had worship just worship went on because people wouldn't stop right we didn't feel like stopping so went on for about three three and a half hours and during this time there was this um there was this little baby which had a kind of a growth uh internally the throat area inside you know you look and there was a growth and the parents were planning to actually take the baby and have a surgery done you know it was a it was a growth which was there have a surgery done and I think the surgery was scheduled for that we cannot very sure but as you know this time of praise and worship went on and and uh they they checked I don't know if they checked over there or if they went home and checked and they they realized that and the mother obviously was praying and you know praying to the lord and asking for uh supernatural work to be done you know all throughout and uh they realized that the growth had disappeared right so it was a it was a miracle uh growth which was there uh was not there at the end of that worship time like so the presence of god and the anointing of god um you know released during the time of worship um thought about that miracle so also you know when we respond in faith and we come with expectation knowing who god is and desiring that god will do what he promised he will do and the response god responds to our faith and uh he does who he reveals who he is and and his character and his nature he's a supernatural god he's a miracle working god so we see that that also being released right so personally we you know similar to the other gifts of the spirit we release we declare what god is doing and encourage people to act on it like uh maybe something needs to be done in order to you know in order to you know uh in order to kind of display that faith maybe you need to step out and do something right so we can encourage people to do something do that what god has put in our hearts and maybe they need to uh check go and check sometimes some of these things may not be possible right then and there but um maybe they need to go back home and check and test and and see you know but but uh we can encourage people to do that and act in faith right and say okay this is what god is doing right now this is what god is revealing right now but um why don't you extend your faith or why don't you act in faith and see what god is doing right again words of knowledge you see and you probably declare or you sense and you declare that word of knowledge faith and prayer and and also getting people to act through the faith now in all these ways we we see that we see and we experience the the lackless happening okay maybe we'll just look at this also and then we'll give to faith which is also in similar lines right healings gives us healings gives us miracles working of miracles and gift of faith now this is a supernatural impartation of faith okay it's a supernatural impartation of faith to believe god for a miracle to believe god for a particular thing the mountain to move um it's a supernatural impartation of faith okay now it uh it works very closely with gifts of healings or working of miracles and so on right it's uh it's different from uh faith that is nurtured you know we can we can build our faith right how do we build our faith we we stay in the word we meditate on the word we read the word we confess the word we grow in faith like we we pray in the spirit the bible talks about build yourself on your most holy faith praying in the holy spirit we see that in jude so um so we we do all this and we can we continue to grow in faith so this is different this gift of faith is different because it's it's given it's super actually imparted by god and for a particular instance in that instance do we have the surge of faith which was not there and maybe you yourself are surprised that you are believing god for something so you know so radical right so it's a it's for a specific times for that specific situation to change and to use stand in that faith it's a it's a super naturally imparted faith um it's also it's also not presumption you know we need to make that clear that it's not like okay i i assume that god would do it i i presume that god would do it you know it's it's uh it's uh knowing knowing know that you know that you know the god is doing it's not assumption it's not presumption uh maybe it's uh you know impartation of faith and you will know it when you perceive it right and it's for us to step out and do and do the extraordinary right gift of faith we see some old old testament examples we see moses miracles in egypt and through the wilderness every time you know he received an instruction from god says moses you know you you lift that rod and then you know you do you tap you touch the or you speak to the rock and every time he does that we see that something amazing happens something miraculous happens and and we can just conclude that every time god said that um his heart must have been filled with faith like moses because um you see the egyptians are coming the pharaohs coming and you know there is the sea in front and god gives this instruction and you must it must have taken you know faith to to obey because it was it was the entire you know not only his life but everyone's life is in danger but uh he moved in faith right and the sun's standing still uh where joshua speaks to the lord and then the sun stands till the moon stops and you know it's it's mentioned there so we see these old testament examples um new testament also of course there's several gifts several you know people being healed and and we see in the life of both in the life of jesus and also in the early church right so it's a supernatural impartation of uh you know like it's like faith just being infused in our hearts for a time and for a particular purpose um and this gift of faith uh works along with the other other gifts could be through what knowledge word of wisdom prophecy and um and and the faith comes into our hearts and it releases gifts of healings it releases a working of miracles right so how do i release it so i act on it right i receive it i receive this supernatural surge of faith and i need to act on it whether it could be to speak something it could be to stretch out my head and do something it um and you know it might mean to declare something sing something i'll declare it but when we do that when we act in obedience in boldness to what god has put in our hearts then that causes the release of that that faith and causes the the work of god to be done right to take place that's what national work takes place so so that is a gift of faith that we see so it's uh it's a gift it's it's there it's it's different from faith that we that we uh faith that is nurtured and faith that is developed and built up right because the Lord Jesus talks and i'm sure you we've learned this in in the in the class about faith that talk faith the Lord Jesus talks about people disciples who had you know underdeveloped faith he kind of rebukes them for it which means that faith can be developed faith grows but here it's a supernatural implantation okay so we see these three we saw these three gifts we'll we'll stop here and um yeah so any any questions here any questions about the you know gifts of healings working of miracles gift of faith um what about the person that they're receiving and uh does not have faith we can still expect healing correct yeah so so yes so when it comes to these you know specifically these when it comes to uh gifts of healings working of miracles and gift of faith you know um well uh it's always good to teach the person and build faith the heart of the person so that they can also you know expect the same thing and and desire the same thing but you know when it comes to the anointing healing anointing and you know these gifts we see that it's not really dependent on the faith in most cases right it's not dependent where it's just you know it's a supernatural work with sovereignly sovereign work of God released yeah yeah thank you was right yeah did you have a question yes faster it's uh regarding the gift of healing uh so uh is it like uh when we operate in this gift yeah uh it can be released through different uh impressions uh but i'm specifically asking of your personal experience or anyone you have heard about like do they really um you know sense in their spirit um in a manner that they can they are so sure about the healing that will take place or just like an event in their mind will will they be able to see it yeah yeah um will they be able to um yes i understand what will be the last one yeah will they be able to see it in their mind or you know how they how they understand like this person is going to get it yeah oh i said okay okay okay um yeah this is just one one thing which happened it was i think it's uh i don't know whether to classify it as healing or miracle uh you know uh like like um you know we we have these prayer walks happening uh it is pre-covid time we used to have it in the mornings uh so i was just getting ready my wife and i were getting ready to go for this prayer walk uh south panglo so and uh she had uh you know like a major pain in the here you know the neck area and and she couldn't really move her neck so um so she was uh she was saying you know you just carry on i don't think i can i think she had slept in a wrong position something you know i don't know what what is the cause so she was uh you know she was experiencing that and major discomfort so he said like i just can't i just can't move so we said okay let okay can just okay i was getting ready i said okay let me i'll go at least then just before going i said okay let's pray and we're praying and while praying i just saw that um uh you know i closed my eyes and pray of course i didn't have my eyes open and i saw something like stick okay going through her neck okay so uh so it's not in the natural but you know i'm just closed my eyes and i saw that so something you know like a like a stick going through her neck here so then i uh it's kind of surprised i don't know what to do then i you know i just felt that i had to remove it you know there's something which is there which shouldn't be there so so i still had my eyes closed and i just said i just said okay i'm just removing it and i just did that right and um and then yeah that was it i just removed that and then she uh after we just prayed and i just asked her how do you feel better yeah i think i feel better and uh and she went she had a bath got ready everything and even she was so it was absolutely you know a marked difference so she's fine um and then we went so i didn't tell her about this what i saw i think for a couple of days or maybe a day and after that i said you know i saw this and i just did that and then you know there was you know a marked difference so you could move so that was something which um yeah for me personally you know uh yeah so i don't know how to classify it you know put it under a gift of faith or what you know working with but it was something that i just went ahead and and uh you know in obedience i think to what i was sensing in my heart i saw there is a sense that okay it shouldn't be there i did that and then you know there's this physical manifestation of you know complete relief in her body uh and in that area the pain just disappeared so that's something that i can you know testify personally um but i think your question was slightly different or maybe you wanted to know whether there is a assurance in our heart yeah uh i was i was uh yeah this this is a perfect example pastor what you mentioned yeah i was actually looking for such a kind of experience like you we would be able for example a blind person getting eyesight back would we really sense it in a manner that we can see that that's happening in us yeah that's yeah yeah sometimes it's so sure you know we're so sure like like that service where i'm sorry i'm just giving personal examples because that's i think that's the best thing um because of what i know so that service that person with the lung you know thing so so i just uh so just spend okay god you know showing this and then when we asked okay is is that we have a problem with it and then she said yeah in fact they were going in for some treatment next day and then you know you know that god is going to do something that and then you feel so strong in your heart but there have been times when you don't feel it right but then god has done it um so that's also you know that's also the case where you don't sense it in your heart like there was one time when just praying over a person and you're just agreeing and praying so there's not a problem with the back major problem with the back and you're saying you know i don't know every time it's let's just pray and so he's just praying and and then uh so after prayers he was he was completely fine so he said he he heard something like uh you know like a cracking noise in the back and he was fine but for me i wasn't really expecting anything you know i was just i was actually tired and i was just praying i said god you know but he i think he it was it was you know like it was his faith he was so strong in faith and he was expecting god to do something and then you know there is that working of i don't know whether you can call it miracle or healing and um there was a cracking crackling noise at the back and then he is completely healed so yeah so those are some you know personal examples uh yeah so the thing is to really step out and you know do it uh take that risk and do it yeah well uh the question again is you know what if nothing happens uh you know do we stop doing it right so well just continue you know we're learning we're growing in faith uh we're growing in this so the thing is not to stop you know i was personally really um encouraged by the testimony of tod white tod white evangelist you know um god uses him you know on the streets and he does so he says you know the uh it took about 100 times like he says 100 times that he prayed for people you know and uh and then the i think there was 100 time or time after that that god actually opened the a blind eye right in the sense he saw his first you know this kind of a miracle but it was 100 times so as you know uh greatly encouraged by that i was wondering you know what if he stopped in the 1998th time or the 99th time you know stop saying hey this doesn't work like uh i don't believe in god's word and i don't believe in the miraculous or maybe it's not god's will then if he stopped you know what what would have happened but he pursued you know this is what god's word says and as we see as an example and for whatever reason i cannot figure out that why it's not happened to that extent but i know that god has spoken god has said so let me be obedient and do it uh so when we have that faith mindset uh that's that's a good thing right so we we see uh you know i'm taught by testifying about that and god uses him consistently and in healing and and science and evangelism right okay we'll stop here we'll come back and then you can have uh we can discuss some more right we take a break and come back thank you