 To Westmoreland, there's no general van. Just this moment, sorry, I just got back from Mrs. Gandhi and a magazine editor's. By the way, before we get on to that, I didn't get much out of her this morning. I guess that day listened to what I considered to be a rather limited and superficial discussion problems, just to set it to, wasn't anybody going to be starving? And they did, if they got some extra aid, why it would be important to prevent malnutrition, but that there was no great demand for it or sense of urgency in any of her conversations. And she kind of concluded by saying, of course, we think you would like to have a good, strong democracy and it would be very much to your interest that you have that. But that was about the net of it. And I kept leading there and trying to wait for her and trying to encourage her. And it just not much came out. Well, I had the same experience at lunch sitting next to her. First place, she didn't take any initiative. I had to keep pulling out her. Didn't do it. It didn't do any this morning with me. And I worked at it for over an hour. I just really pulled at it. I didn't do the talking. I asked her to do it. And I didn't make any commitments either. And I asked her if she realized that this was, I had this problem with my parliament. And she said subgeranium made this commitment to Freeman on fertilizer and just to play the hell with his parliament. And they were all jumping on him and said he had no right to make it. And he shouldn't have made it. She had to take the position now that it was made by another prime minister and that she was going to try to live up to it. But it was very difficult. And that was just the general approach. So I think we have to talk to the ambassador a little bit, try to find out really what we have to do there. Right. And perhaps I ought to have a word with Chet so that Chet might find a way to spur her to come be a little more forthcoming. You're sitting next to her at dinner tonight. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want her to know that I didn't think that she made a very good case, but she sure did. Yeah. It's somebody else that has made her case. Well, I just said I told them that if we don't do something in the food field that we could have as many people die in India this year as we got in Vietnam. And she said, oh, there's not going to be anyone die from food. So that's exaggerated. She said there may be some malnutrition coming about. Yeah. And I just saw the time story this morning. It said 35, 40 million. Yeah. And now on this Westmoreland, we're high. I just feel like we just haven't done enough to prevent losing that government out there yet. I don't know what else we can do, but I just, it's going to be so much more difficult to rebuild a government than it is to hold the one we got. If we could do it, I thought maybe in view of the fact that Lodge concurred in Westmoreland's wire that we might say to Lodge, this is excellent. We're glad to see that you've been in Westmoreland and do that. We hope that you will say substantially the same thing to every Buddhist element there. Really put it up to them how I hand it because we can't take this back home. If Westmoreland, if anybody ever know besides you and me that Westmoreland says abuse of the United States military presence in North and reaches republic is inconsistent with the spirit of solidarity of the United Arab forces. And such abuse not only degrades troop morale but places me in a difficult embarrassing situation attempting to explain it. And unjustified abuse to the United States policy reflect in the succession of radio broadcasts with display of English language signs intended to provoke U.S. military personnel. The same personnel whose sacrifice of life and limb was played an important role. If our people got the idea that the Vietnamese are insulting our men, marines up in that northern area that are dying for them. All right. Well, they'll jump ahead and build Fulbright and Morris and tell us to get tailed out of the head. Lodge better let the damn Buddhist know that. And straighten it out damn quicker. We better make our plans according. I've got Alex Johnson in the next room. Let me go over this talk around with him and see what we can say to Lodge on it. All right.