 of eSports, a show devoted to all things eSports. I'm your host, Catherine Noor. Today we're talking about pursuing a career in eSports with with me is Shahrukh Tanvir. Welcome, Jack. So I know you go by Jack, right? Yeah, okay. People call me Jack, Jack Wayne. That's my gamer tag, actually. Okay, so I know that you're joining us from India. What time is it there? Yeah, it's it's 3.30 a.m. in the morning and it's really cold. I'm wearing a jacket and behind me, it's a heater there. Oh, my goodness. Wow, that's interesting. So we I've talked to you before on my show, and that was last September. And what's been going on with Artemis since we left Yeah, since like we had a show, it was really great. I really enjoyed the show. I was telling that I really enjoyed the show. So after that, numbers are rapidly increasing on our social media and our YouTube and other platforms. So recently, we have completed 11,000 subscribers on YouTube and we have completed 41, I think 4,200 on Facebook, and it is going really, really good. Working on the streams, same, like twice a day or sometimes twice a day, that that's going really, really good. I'm so happy that people from all over the globe are supporting Artemis now. Fantastic. And I loved your story last time when you mentioned that when you started streaming, you had zero people following you. And then all of a sudden, you had one person after quite a quite a while, quite a few days. And that was kind of quite an interesting motivational thing for us. Yeah, like when I started the day was 19 April 2019. No, it was 17 April 2019, I started doing it. And there was like zero subscribers, zero views with they were there. And I was doing the streaming for next seven days. So there was nothing. And suddenly I got one subscriber, the name of the person was Vipul and he is still with us. So now we have 11,000 and he is still with us. So that's really cool. Fantastic. Okay, so talking about numbers, let's show the video. Alright guys, welcome back to the game. Let's get things started. This is Artemis and today I'm going to tell you some incredible numbers and stats about video gamers from all over the globe. Almost 50% of the world population plays video games. The latest statistics have us at 7.6 billion people on earth and a new study from DFC intelligence tells us that in 2020 that includes 3.1 billion video gamers. But who exactly are these gamers? And where they come from? Where is their favorite way to play? I'm sure you have already guessed, the most popular platform for gamers none other than mobile devices. Almost half of the players are playing on their phones. According to this study, players with consoles are in the minority since they represent just 8% of the 3.1 billion gamers. This group also spends the most, which makes sense. When you look at how much consoles and games cost, 48% of the players are PC gamers, which means no less than 1.5 billion players. According to this study, half of these gamers live in Asia, which means 1.42 billion gamers. Wow. The second best geographical group is in Europe with 668 million players that followed by Latin America and North America with 383 million and 261 million respectively. Well, those are some really crazy numbers. Let us know what type of gamer you are, mobile, PC or console in the comment below. Hit the like button and follow us for more videos. Yeah, to be honest with you, there is a huge potential in gaming industry. It was always there, like how people can manage to make some good amount of money by just playing video games. As we were talking about last show, I was telling that how gaming industry is rapidly increasing. Now, if we are talking about the numbers, we have already seen the numbers that how many gamers are actually active gamers are there. If I include the gamers for mobile games, for PC games or for the console games, tournaments are going on all over the globe for mobile games, for PC games, for e-sports games. Let us talk about some basic things. Let us talk about how a player can make a career in gaming or e-sports industry. Just take an example, a player who is 21 years old. He has great skills into the gaming. It can be any game. It can be a PC game or it can be a phone game or any other game. He has great skills. Now, what is the next thing he should do? He should start doing this streaming on different platforms. These platforms are free. You do not have to sign up or you do not have to pay hundreds of millions, hundreds of dollars for signing up on YouTube or Facebook gaming. You have to create a page. You can start working on these. Create your logo. Start uploading your video. Start doing streaming. These platforms, YouTube and Facebook, Twitch and some others, are giving some good options where you can monetize your channel. Once you have completed the criteria, like 1,000 subscribers on YouTube, 4,000 hours on YouTube, then you can get monetized and people can start paying you money. They can give you a super chat, a donation. People can give you super stickers and you can get that money. Once you start doing it, it will be a low, but once the number growing, the money will grow automatically. That is really great. Same thing comes with the Facebook. Once you start doing on YouTube, you can do the same streaming, same time on Facebook also. Now, there are different criteria in Facebook and once you have completed those criteria, Facebook will start paying you. All you have to do is you just have to stream. You have to work on your videos. You have to work on your skills and then you can start making money. This is something that is for a small thing. It is like just playing video games and make a small amount of money. What I recently started doing is Artemis have launched their own merchandise now. The merchandise are not just in India, it's all over the globe. You can buy it in the United States, you can buy it in Australia, you can buy it in Europe, European countries, and anywhere. What we are doing is we are designing our own t-shirts, hoodies, caps. There are tons of products out there. People can buy it on a very affordable price. We are selling them. We have our own logo there on those hoodies and t-shirts. I am personally creating those t-shirts and designs. I am showing them how gaming can be done in illustration and things. That is what I am currently working on. This is also another thing which I have personally experienced. I would like to give advice to these streamers or gamers. What these people can do is they can have a sponsorship, a small sponsorship from local owners, those computer shops. You can simply go to them and you can tell them that we would like to advertise your shop and your products on our live streaming. People will ask me that what product should I go for, what gaming keyboard should I go for, what gaming mouse should I go for. I will advertise your business there and you have to sponsor me. There are two things. Either these people can sponsor you for cash money or they can sponsor you for the stuff, gaming keyboard, mouse, monitor, whatever things. I have got some of them. It is really good. It is not a big amount but it is a small amount and that is really cool. These are some of the tips which I would like to give it to the gamers or the streamers that should go for. It is very easy to achieve. It is not a big thing that you have to do some rocket science. It is very easy to do it. You talk about sponsors of what we call endemic brands where it is like keyboards, mouse, those kind of things. Would you also be interested in sponsors that are non-endemic, those that do not have anything to do with eSports, something like a soda company or a car company or something like that? Yes. In this case, yes, I would like to suggest that you can go for the local restaurants. Because a restaurant is something that everyone loves to go. You can go for a pizza shop or you can go for a soda shop or you can go for any other shop. You can tell them that we are going to advertise your restaurant there, putting a logo, side logo on the stream, or telling them that you can order a pizza or you can also promote coupon code. Buy one, get one free pizza or 50% discount or something like this. Yes, that is a nice idea that people should go for. Sure. There could also even be trade situations, I would think. Yes, there will be. These are the things people should go for, the new gamers or the new streamers. Sure. What skills do you think someone should develop for an eSports or gaming career? See, skills is something that we should come up with every time. We should keep working on the skills, improving on the skills is really important. Because, for example, if I'm doing a live stream, I know that I'm a pro gamer and I do some of my own tricks that people love to watch. If you are doing a stream, you have to be something unique that what not other people are doing. Create your own charts or make it your own slogan or make it your something interesting that your viewers should engage with it. It shouldn't sound or shouldn't view like the other streams. It should look like that this guy is something different. Because they are giving you their subscribe, that is one button that they are giving you. That means a lot. This is something that we streamers have to do something special for them, like giving a personal shout out to them or engaging, sometimes do something funny, sometimes do something interesting that should engage the viewers into the stream. Sure. And I actually see you pop up on my Facebook because I know you're streaming on Facebook. So that's kind of fun. I like to pop in there now and then to watch you. So are you kind of new to Facebook for streaming? Yeah, like since the last show I started, I think it's almost five months I started working on Facebook. And like as I told you, the numbers are rapidly increasing 40 to 100. We have recently done on our Facebook and every day it is growing like hundreds of number every day. So I think like the main goal for our community, Artemis community, that we are focusing to get at least 100k at the end of the year. Focus is to get 1 million, but we are expecting that 1 million is not, I know it is possible, but somewhere we are taking 100k. You just have to kind of go in increments and it takes a lot of time too. Yeah. I mean you're building a community. I know it took me years to max out LinkedIn and I did it, but it took a lot of years to do it. So if someone is interested in eSports as a career, what kind of major college majors would you suggest? There are a couple of things that I would like to show. I would like to discuss in terms of eSports career that people should go for the tournaments. That is number one, that everyone is focusing on. If you want to make some big money, people should go for the big tournaments and first of all, they have to work on their team because eSports is not a single thing. You have to work with your team. You have to work with your community. So try to improve your community, try to improve your team. And once you are done, then try to improve your skills so that you can be into the eSports big tournaments. Now, if I talk about the big eSports tournament, it can be any other game, just take any game, PUBG Call of Duty or any other game into the eSports. If you are performing good, then big companies like Red Bull, big companies like Asus, big companies like Microsoft can hire you. They can sponsor you for a big amount of money. Even if you are not the winner and you have performed very well, they will love to be with you. They will promote you. They will give you the t-shirts, specs, whatever you want, they will give you. So that's how a person can be into eSports and make a career in eSports, which is really, really good. And because now, at days, people are coming to me. They are sending me messages. They are calling me or we are having these communication on our Discord server or on our Facebook that they don't know what to do. They have skills, but as I said, they don't know what to do next. So they should start making these things. They should start working on their clan. Plan is something like they should go for a team for at least seven to eight people. They should start working their own community to make big and they should start working on their team. So that's the first thing that these guys should work on. Once these things are done, then they should go for the big tournaments. In my opinion, I think they can start with these small tournaments because there are some websites which are hosting small tournaments with a small amount of money and you don't have to pay any entry fee. It's free, free of cost, but there you can make a good amount of money, like $1,000 pool prize or $2,000 pool prize. So you can start with these and once you grab your hand in these tournaments, then go for the big one. I had previously interviewed Fatality and he talked about his journey with an e-sports career and this was back before people really knew that much about it. He was making $10,000 in a weekend, $20,000, $100,000 and for a young guy, he was doing really well. But now that it's much bigger, it seems to me that the opportunities are much more in all sorts of areas. Is that right? Yeah, it is absolutely right that competition has begun now because there was a time when e-sports was only in US culture, not everywhere. But now if we are talking about the Asia Asians, they're into everything. They're into gaming. They're into e-sports. There is a guy in Asia who owns the biggest cyber gaming cafe in Asia and that is like 24-7. Gamers are sitting there, gamers are sleeping there, gamers are bathing there in that cyber cafe and he's making millions of dollars and he is only 25. This is the thing where people are now learning e-sports culture. It has become a sport now because there was a time when we used to see football, we used to see basketball and we thought that this is a big criteria where we should go for. But now e-sports is something that it is growing rapidly and it is going really fast that no sports have ever done this thing before. Sure. And I also know that people are making money as shout casters and in all different areas, whether it's with working for a company in their e-sports department. And obviously I have different people in the e-sports industry every week on my show and they're demonstrating how they're making money. And I know that you, so Jack, I know that you went to, I think, University of Florida and you, what were your majors? I was in animation and visual effects. Okay. And has that helped you in your career? It does because if we are talking about the game reviews or if we are talking about the animation in the game, if we are talking about the effects in the game, that helps me a lot because I know in and out of those things. So creating those videos, I don't have to hire a video editor or something. I can create it my own. I can do my own shooting. I can do my own things because Artemis is not just limited with the games now. What we are planning is to create VFX gaming videos. So I think if I'm not wrong that Artemis will become the first India's gaming and VFX channel in India. So that's what we are planning to do. We have got our cameras ready. We have got our teams ready. So we are going to act some, you know, gaming. We are going to record some gaming videos up to so that we can guide people how to do these things because VFX in India is growing now. So people will love it. That's what our next goal is. Yeah. And if you were asked how much business knowledge would I need to become a professional gamer? Yeah. To be honest with you, like as I started two years, it's almost two years because first I was only playing on my PC. I was only playing on my console. I was like, I was also like the other guys who don't know what to do next. So I start doing streaming. I start connecting with more and more people. I came to know what things are. I came to know what esports industry is and I start learning them every day. And now here I am today. To be honest with you, we are running the India's biggest esports discord server named as Artemis. So we have like good number of amount of people are there. We are doing X channel there. We are doing voice channel there. We are doing great activities there. Even as per my personal interest, I have created two X channel there. One is daily motivation. So one of us who are the admins, who are the moderators, we are posting daily motivation code there. I know like it is not for the gaming, but this is something that if you are waking up early in the morning and you suddenly saw a daily motivated quotation or a photo which gives you a small story, that makes you feel good. So that's what my personal interest is that what I'm doing. And second thing that I'm doing is the love court, just to make something romantic. So this is something that I've created there. And it is going really good. People are liking it. And even the fans that we have on Artemis community on discord, they are sending us the daily motivation. Some are like created by their own. Some are created from Google, but they are sending it. It feels good that people are actually making interest into this. Now, did you take business classes in college as well? Oh, no. Okay. So you're an entrepreneur, but you have to kind of learn the business aspects of it as you go. Yeah, I have to learn everything from scratch. So I mean, it sounds to me like if someone does have business knowledge that they gain from college that would be advantageous. Would you think that? Yeah, I think that will be that will be a good scenario here because you know, if you go to these college or if you go to these classes, they will teach you what to do next or what how you can approach. Because to be honest with you, when I start doing things, when I start going to the presentation, giving presentation of Artemis into the sponsorship for the offices, for the restaurants, like as we were talking, it was for me, it was a little difficult. I don't know where to start. So I learned it. I learned it from my own. And now I'm doing great. I think self-learning is the best learning. Sure, sure. So how is the eSports business in India? Yeah, like since the pandemic, to be honest with you, it has grown up to 200% because everyone as we are talking about the numbers as usual, it was there on the video that half of the population on the wall is playing on their phone. Okay. So this thing is growing rapidly in India and most of the players are actually playing on their phone, not on PC. To be honest with you, if I'm not wrong with this stats, 80% of the gamers in India are mobile players and they want to be into eSports completely. We are talking about here, 13 years old boy, 35 years old boy. And it is going really good. I'm really happy that Indian gamers are actually taking good interest into eSports. And that's what Artemis is doing for them. Artemis is really helping them to get into the eSports. And do you have fans and connections outside of India of Artemis? Yeah, that's what I said like Artemis means gamers are never alone and people are actually supporting us from all over the globe. Like as I said, we are selling merchandise. So we have already sold more than 10 pieces of outside India. Some of there are in the United States, some of there are in Australia, some of there are some are like in London. And people actually come to our stream. They donate us with the super chat or they also promote our video or they also share our video on our social media. And that's really good. Now do you sell any merchandise with the gamers are never alone logo? Yeah, there are some of the t-shirts and hoodies are there that we have created. Even if you just go to our YouTube channel. Yeah, I forget to mention this thing. This was really important. I forget. I'm really sorry. Once you are done with these monetization on YouTube, now there's a new feature where you like as a gaming community or as a content creator can sell their own merchandise on YouTube. This is a new feature that YouTube have implemented. And we have got I think Artemis is the first YouTube channel that selling merchandise on YouTube. And we have our merchandise there on YouTube. It's a new feature that you do have introduced. I'm really sorry. I forget to mention this thing. If you go to our channel YouTube, YouTube Artemis and there is a special tab. They store just click on it and you'll see all those t-shirts and hoodies are there and people can directly buy from there. And it's a global like they are doing international shipping also. Okay. So kind of quickly what do you think the future is in eSports? To be honest with you, I was looking at some of the things that how big companies are spending hundreds of millions of dollars into eSports. We are talking about the Gary Vee here. We are talking about the Red Bull here. We are talking about the Microsoft that they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars into gaming industry. They are organizing tournaments. They are creating games. They are hiring gamers to get into eSports. I think that in next five years gaming sports will actually become official sport like we are, as we see like basketball and football and others. So I think that eSports will be a next level sport into the world in next five years. That's what my expectations are. Okay. And so how can viewers find you? Yeah. People can find me just type Artemis. That's A-R-3-M-I-S. Three is a number on Google and they'll find everything there. They can find my address, my number, my website, YouTube, Instagram. Everything is already there. It's good to see ourselves on Google. All right. Well, so I hope everyone finds Artemis and likes and connects and watches your stream. Jack, thank you so much for being my guest again. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you so much. All right. So thank you all for joining us today. And I thank our viewer for the question. Next week, my guest will be gamer doc Dr. Lindsay Migliore. We'll discuss injuries and treatment associated with gaming and eSports. See you then.