 Hey YouTube Right, this is a It's not an in-depth review. It's just my My opinion to this this hunt egg It's the It's a DS 1102 be I Get the best angle when it's angled downwards the camera so you can actually see what's on the What's on the Yeah now I've been living with this now for two months exactly that's how long it's been and I'm not gonna lie a lot of the time. This has been sat on the floor out the way I don't feel confident with it. I think it's maybe because I spoiled myself I Had a rival DS 10 54 Z and that Well, the big difference is between it is This finds it very hard to hold away from Okay, and what I'm gonna do is I've got snippets Where I was starting to take bits of video, you know, I use the frequency at the function generator 50 Hertz and the same way, you know, it's there and it goes down to nothing and it pops back and I've done the firmware updates And You know, I just I just don't feel Confident with this now. This is the same price. Basically. This is 322 pounds sent from China and it gets to you within a week just over a week. So that's pretty good and the wrigel is Is 300 and what it cost me today 331 pounds. I bought a wrigel another wrigel 10 54 Z today. I sold my other one Thinking that this was gonna be a great a great alternative I didn't need more than two channels a lot of the time and I figured that you know, I could I could probably get by We just two channels and the rivals got four of course Sorry, well, that's my messages But Unfortunately, the wrigel has a lot more to offer than this does and the first thing that I found the first thing That I realized that I couldn't do with this Was I couldn't hook up a power supply and check the input AC and the output DC because then they're not isolated and That is a big fail It's a fail on my part too because really I should have I should have double-checked that I Should have double-checked. I Was looking for a multi meter as well and I thought well, maybe this is incorporated multi meter That's gonna kill two birds with one stone, you know But no This is not Really practical for me. I like to play around with my Like solid-state Tesla coil and search and have based up the rival probe just hanging So I could see the waveform and it looked lovely, you know, I go near and it would change and depending on what What you know the lights and what I was doing with it depending on way for me It was nice. It was great for me to experiment and I felt confident with it. The wrigel has four isolated up to a thousand volt And inputs I'm gonna pause this because we got work people doing the The grass and search and I don't know how it's gonna come across on the camera So I'll come back when they're finished Okie dokie, let's carry on. I wonder if I put this on I'd like to do is blot out Reckart and as long as you can still see that now the reason why this Possibly the reason why this is going the way it is is if I just take this off here It's I've still got the probes connected down here to a little choke Basically, I was just I was flapping around with a power supply toroid and put in the smallest capacitors I could across and Using different coils for chokes in in series in line chokes And I'm a slightly big plaster here with a That's I think it's a 560 own load there. It was a 1k 560, but as The ripples are going down to zero. I then put a lower value resistor in just to Add to that load. Okay, so that's still connected to that. I don't know whether that's the reason why that's doing that But if I disconnect This And it won't do that anymore. That's be interesting that that coils Double look at this. I'm just disconnected that look it's not But it's not actually connected to anything at the moment. That's just the coil on the ferro ring With that resistor and capacitor Right anyway So it's charging at the moment and that's a great thing about this. Don't get me wrong There are a couple of good things about it One is it runs From a battery and that's quite good It's not so good that I can't if I'm Using a circuit which is connected to my batteries to my power supply my little solar powered power supply And I'm charging from the same source Yeah, it doesn't like that at all Not isolated inputs, of course It's a big no-no. Now that was my mistake. I showed them Some better research into that Because obviously with the right where you've got that and that makes that a good tool The fact that the waveform on this does jitter about all over the place I don't know jitter's the right word because I know that jitter's a word that's used in this and but it just Flaps it out all over the place Okay, so you don't know Whether it's what you're putting in or whether it's this and that makes life very difficult When you try to observe You know the waveform what's going on? Now I know that that little frequency function generator. I should call it That little function generator up there It's fine. I know it's fine because I'm more idle and I've sat and played with it for absolutely hours And it's a solid as a rock It's great And there's enough people out there as well that I've done little reviews on that particular That's the Jtech FG 085 and they say yeah, great Yeah, it's great. He's not you know overly. He's not got very wide bandwidth. It's But it'll let you sit with one Hertz up to 200k And that's ideal just for playing around It's fine. It's fine. But on this when you put it on, you know, with the square wave, it'll be there It'll be bits missing. Oh, like I said down in the bottom left-hand side of the screen here I will put in Some of the other video that I've been doing and hopefully if I have sorted this out right then you're actually going to get to see This over on this side and all the other stuff will be happening on the left-hand side I'm very new to all this. Okay. I'm very new to all this. I'm new to making videos. I'm new to talking About what it is. I'm doing I'm new to a lot of the equipment, but when I went and bought that rival I Watched video after video. I watched Dave Jones tear one down. I watched the pinions on it I went looking to see, you know, they're the pros and cons of that And there was enough information for me to say, yeah, that's what I want for the money. That's what I want is Some people would say, oh, you didn't need one of those. You've just got into this. Well, yeah But you could say that about a multimeter. Why would I need a multimeter? Why should I just get something that just shows me how a 9-volt battery? What charges on a 9-volt battery? The reason why you're buying a multimeter and you don't know what all the parts or the functions are for but you learn, don't you? And without it, how are you gonna learn? So I sit and play with these things. I sit and play with that that rival I sat and play with and play with Made it a pleasure This like I say I spent a lot of the time just sat down by the side of me because I didn't even want it on here Because it was just depressing I'm sorry to say like that, but it made me think I can't do anything with it That's the stuff I want to do now Okay, oh power supplies that I want to build I want to build a tube power supply But I don't want to blow this up probing I've already had it once where I've got it on the AC on a 12 volt AC and I got the probes on there great I can see it's all but it's flopping about a bit because this thing's Making it flop about a bit and then I try and see the output on the DC side If you want to see sparks coming off your probes, that's a good way of doing it And then this thing will freeze up and then you got to reboot it And then you wonder oh god, I damaged it now. Well, it was fucking about all over the place anyway, so You know some people may give me some thumbs down for this, but I'm just giving you this the way it is I this today I have complained about it today with the people I Try to send them a video, but of course I'm sending it to that area and you always get returns So I've Communicated with them on eBay. It's two months out I've got one month if I wanted to push for PayPal, but I haven't I've put it for sale on eBay because I just want to shut up it I bought a new rival today, and it'll be here on Monday And I'm gonna be a lot happier man back to doing some experiments where I can actually hook up You know more than one thing without thinking it's gonna blow the pro bends off or produce. I don't want sparks. I Don't want sparks. I've got lots of things that I want to be able to do Trying to sort out chokes How this flies to notify a ripple and such but anyway So yeah, I don't get me wrong. You know some of this stuff is okay Like that it's easy to get around it is easy to get around. Yeah, you got like a to update It's dead easy. You just put the firmware on a USB chuck it in. It doesn't even matter The USB I used had an operating system on there. It's one that I just use when I'm testing stuff It's a Linux system and if I've got a computer that's failing for some reason I do a hardware check first I'll put the Linux system in everything working great. I know hardware is okay So let's you know if I can't get it just a boot up and I can see from inside there Because I can get these things to happen quick. I can boot up a Linux system on my laptop Then the 30 seconds and it's ready to go So Self-calibration, okay self-calibration. That's good But if you do it more than three times without taking the battery out and leaving it out for 10 minutes and put it back in again I don't want to know keeps going on with an error code So that's a bit of a pain when you don't know and when you talk to the people about it And they don't respond back to you think oh, oh, I've got a problem here But and the battery just get really warm in there as well So I didn't really do a lot with the past file because I didn't really get into doing too much with this I Didn't get into a record sort of things. I don't think I can't I think you need a chip for But like doing there near choir now. This is something else as well So when you go and you start going into this memory by the time you get here things are really Slepping up at 512k One make memory is dead slow. You put a signal in there and you if you've got some that's pulsing across where you're gonna miss it It's just not gonna work. And maybe that's in my naivety. Maybe you shouldn't be doing it like that And maybe that's what a lot this is gonna turn out to be but I can tell you this I could do all those sort of things with the wriggle and I didn't have a problem this peak thing as well two lines Now that's got nothing going into it Okay, if I just put this across that resistor Now I've got this two line thing going on And I'm not too sure about you know what that's about. Okay, so you get rid of that and again, you just get there the big chunky line If you start putting the longer memory on Why can't you see that? I'm sorry. I haven't got the best camera in the world, but it's be fair I didn't really think I was gonna be doing this sort of thing I put my videos up, I tell you for why because it gives me a record. It means if my computer dies, hard drive just fails, whatever I've always got a Record of my progress on playing with electronics. That's why it's called a lecky fun It's not called I'm trying to teach you something because I'm not Okay, I look for help more than I try and give it I just make these little videos because I can look back Overtime and think huh. Well, that was the first thing you tried That's what you understood then and this is what you understand now and I can try and evaluate me in progress. Okay, it's not about Not about trying to teach anybody anything all my circuits are pretty much copied apart from a few of the little power supply things I'm doing now because I know enough to put together a little standard linear power supplies and put around with resistance it resistors on Variable voltage regulators so I can set the The output to what I want But yeah, of course things are copied. What do you think a year ago? I sent things. I want to get into electronics And start designing No, you show me somebody who can do that show me so So yeah back to this Thing is I'll tell you for why I do that is because I get quite a few thumbs down on stuff I think people seem to think when they look at my videos I'm supposed to be a tutor or something. I'm telling you everything how it works and everything. No, that's not what it's about That's not what I'm about That's not what I'm about. I'm doing this for me It's just for me to be able to build stuff put it up there. I've got it somewhere safely stored So if I ever need to look back at it is there You know remember my family wants to go and have a look at it they can not that anyone's really interested in my family They're all too busy watching things up as Britain got talent. I can answer that very small portion but the rest of it's Yeah, I take a quick peek at things like YouTube But anyway, that's so the real time and this equivalent time thing. I never really used it and so Equivalency isn't that just like averaging again, I don't know I don't know This place that you can set it all up and persistency is just on auto. It doesn't say off It's just an auto that seems like half when this first comes. It's all bright It's all everything and you can make the battery last longer by turning down your new contrast and the brightness and stuff like that. I Haven't actually done it time for time To see how much difference it makes on these things But you know, there are some and if you want to keep it on and you don't want the menu to keep disappearing And you don't want the backlight to keep switching off and it's going to like a little sleep mode all the time You just put it on limited It lasts for long enough It honestly does it last for long enough if you're sitting around playing for the day You're generally getting enough time out of it, especially if you don't go wandering off and Making phone calls in the other room or making food and stuff without just like switching it off Come back in problem is with that is it says to get it into a optimal running temperature You gotta leave it on 20 minutes So I can work against it slightly What are you gonna say? Yeah, that's all good. So I get rid of that. Um The measurement side of it. Yeah, it's pretty good Not, you know, again because I'm comparing against the rival maybe I should just be comparing against something I can only compare against something that I've had myself Before and I've used You know, now there's lots of functions on the rival and I didn't get around to using all of course and I'll just In a more of a learning stage then and what I am now even though I'm still very much on a learning stage I picked up a book yesterday called vacuum tube amplifier basics And I'm well, I don't know if you can see the bookmark there I'm sort of a third way through Very much in the learning stages me very much in the learning stages with the equipment with the components with the All the information out there and there's a lot of information out there um So, yeah very much on the learning stages But I got plans. I want to do I want to design. I want to do these things. So I'm going to carry on learning to So, you know, you can turn this or you can turn the menu off and you get that bigger Because I feel a vision which is which is great um So in some ways, you know, it's not too bad. But like I said If I've got this set up right and you can see down the bottom left hand side um You'll you'll see how the the waveform sort of jitters about it does make it really frustrating because you don't know When you're doing something and you expect in a waveform Or You think you might be expecting it, but it's all over the place. You think well, is it what I'm doing or is it this? Then you don't need that You You don't need that when you're trying to work, you know when you're trying to figure out what's going on It's hard enough being a complete novice anyway without the equipment that you're using Choking you into a more confusion And the right. Well, that just wasn't the case you connect that up and boom You're nice solid and one of you were doing it was there and you know, you had the confidence This is very hard. I could just phone up jim at wrigel uk. Hey, this is going on blue And he was very very good very very easy to communicate with Great, even if you couldn't get on to it directly within a very short period of time I'd have an email with explanations and stuff and Brilliant this hard work Hard work hard work one try and find information on this Apart from the website, which is basically just trying to sell the products Try and find more information very difficult But how many people out there using these things none and most people are saying they're not very good Anyway, which is again a downside. It was my own fault. I should have done more research But the main reason why I thought I was going to get this was because I wanted to do the The mobile thing everything running From the battery and the wrigel takes like 25 30 watts just Working on standby But this takes the same amount of power According to the specifications of it. It's still sort of use the same amount of power just sat there during that so and You know, I figured I'd need a pure sine wave Inverter and everything to run the rival and blah, but blah, but they're so cheap now You know 500 watt 300 300 watt nominal 500 600 watt peak pure silo inverter 50 quick So cheap cheap cheap a lot cheaper what they use three, you know, sort of 10 years ago when I first looked into buying an inverter When I was doing a bit of traveling With my truck, so You know an opinion from someone who's uh spent 322 pound on this Against what I had No, I don't like this I don't like if the waveforms Uh didn't have that peak thing which really does my head in Maybe somebody can clarify why that does that it's not going to stop me from selling it Because like I said, I've already made the purchase. I phoned up Jim earlier today. Give me another wrigel, please because I've had problems with this And uh, that's been shipped to me but Would I buy one? I mean if you're Clever enough And you know all about these things then probably you might even avoid this anyway But if you're not and you're thinking hey, is that a good investment for the money? I would say spend the extra nine pounds Yeah, and by the wrigel four channels isolated Um From where I sort of tear down a bit. I'm sure it was mentioned that probably a battery pack can be made up for that sort of thing but Yeah, don't don't correct me on that and don't uh Don't think that's any reason to buy that. I'm just it's a good sturdy very popular piece of kit the wrigel where this His main thing for me was the battery and it had a digital multimeter built in But the nice thing about the wrigel is that every when you a wrigel uk if you spend over 200 quid Not including the vat, which I have done today They uh, they send you out a free multimeter as well Yeah So I swing zoom round about So there we go um I said on the bottom left will be some waveforms It's not going to be too expensive extensive, but that is my humble opinion on this Would I buy one again? No, would I suggest to anybody else to buy one? Not really because it honestly does seem if you're going to spend that sort of money um You are going to be better off with the wrigel 1054z And It is a it's a disappointment the only advantage it has really Is uh, it works off a battery That is not enough where you've got waveforms Chained about all over the place and you don't know whether it's what you're doing or whether it's this And it turns out that I know That that function generates fine That it's going to turn out to be this I've got a signal generator In my in my laptop and I have given it a go what I'll do is I'll I'll do that on here as well And I know that that's um That that should be fine and I have used it in actual fact here I've got clip it so that because I I did I did some um some audio stuff with an n1875s And even that was hard It seems like you've actually got to get it down to a certain size and uh a certain period cycles on the screen Otherwise, it's all over the place again And how annoying is that you'd be nice to just have one You know 360 on the screen and it hold it there nice and big nice and clear but nah, this doesn't do it like that You'd have to have a few on there or four or five and have it smaller and then it'll hold it in Come on away you're triggering it Um And you know it's on rising eggs and really that should be fine for them sort of things. I'm not an expert But it was fine on the wrigel That's what I'm saying So there you go. All right. She is watching if you got this far. I hope this has become helpful for anybody please, you know, did you give me a thumbs down because That's what you can do learn fair enough That's your opinion, but if you've got something that you want to add to it Maybe it's what I'm going around put it in the comments It's a lot more helpful not just for me, but for anybody else I was going to watch the video Okay. Cheers guys. Bye. Bye