 to the English section of the workham. Again, my name is Maria, in case you missed it last time. A couple of things. We're going to have now the second talk of the day and at 12, lunch will start. I was here yesterday and the food is really good. So we're going to have a picture with everybody, all the attendees at quarter to one. So after lunch, you go back so that we can all have your beautiful faces on the picture as well. We'll be announcing it again, but just so you know, it's going to be like towards the end of the lunch and before the next session that starts at one. I'm blanking. I don't know if there are any other announcements that I should give. Today, we're joined by Flores and I think he slides. Yes. Flores Loiding. Yes. Good. His talk is WordPress for education experiences with multi-site as a portfolio learning platform. Flores has experience in consulting and implementing e-learning and knowledge about management solutions in both the private and the public sector. Like many of us, he also has a strong affinity with open source software, open standards and has over three years of experience teaching and mentoring. We're very excited to watch your talk. This thing is going to be interactive. So if you want to talk, if there's something like some discussions, I have a microphone that I can pass around. If you want to be in the recording, then please wait until I get to you. Or Flores, can you repeat the question in case I'm not fast enough? No problem. Okay. So please give a very warm round of applause for Flores and you might begin. Thank you. So thank you for having me. Welcome to my talk. I am Flores Leuring. Let's see. I have to switch to my presentation. As Maria said, I have experience with e-learning but also a strong affinity with open source software. So when I was a consultant, I had to support schools to select learning management systems, e-learning solutions. I had to provide a short list based on the program of requirements. I had to assist them in implementing them. And all the time I was thinking we are missing the opportunity of utilizing the open source. So in my work, I tried to get the open source solutions, of course, on all the short lists out there. And sometimes it worked. But more often than I would like to admit, the institutions chose for the more safe option. The closed software, the SLA, something that they can point at and say there's a help desk outside of our institutions. We don't need to bring up the knowledge inside our organization. So I quit that. I did not like the way that was going. So I started portfolio.education, also Leer podium in the Netherlands. I am here together with my brother, also partner in crime, Taco. And my wife, she is the moral support. So I have my presentation cut up in three parts. The first one is the obligatory part. So you just have to accept that. It's something that I want to tell about us. I want to tell about the concept of using multi-site for education. I want to do a short demonstration because I thought it was nice to do a live demo during a talk. Then we have part two. That doesn't ask me anything. I have prepared three slides. It's covering the theme of didactics, technology, or the business part of our endeavor. And I didn't know what you were interested in. So I provide you with a menu and you can point at the word that you like and say, tell me more about that. If you remain quiet, then I will just pick my favorite words, of course. And part three is the wrap up. So it will be a conclusion at the end, five minutes, and our plans for the future. So our team consists of, it's multidisciplinary. We have system engineering and policy analysis experience. That's my part. That's about decision processes and complex systems. How you can manage the human and technological parts of this complexity. Psychology is my brother. We have also a third partner. He has retired recently, a few years ago, I think two years. But he was a teacher in the arts. He was a graphic designer. So he brought all the experience from schools. We also started learning to shave with his moustache, as we say it in the Netherlands. So his school was our first moustache we learned to shave. So we had his students. We said, we have a nice idea. We have to do WordPress. It's going to be awesome. And that brought us inside the school. That was helpful. And he's also an artist. So that also helped us gain a lot of traction inside the arts and education. Our mission is first and foremost, let's use open technology in education. So it's a public endeavor. It's public money. It's open technology. It's the way to go in my opinion. It's underutilized and it's out there for the taking. And you can do a lot with it. So then I translated it further to I want to give every student in the Netherlands in Europe or in the world their own WordPress site. We started in the Netherlands. So every student should have their own WordPress site. But I also have in my mind the teachers, the poor teachers. If every student has their own WordPress site, and that would be the learning community and platform, all these sites will look totally different. So where is the, for example, the blog for the assignment for the arts project? Or where is the reflection for the project week? If the menu is on the left or it's on the right? Or what you also see, it is in pink letters on a red background. Because these students can do anything they want with their WordPress. So you see the craziest websites that really makes us tick. We love to see what students do with it. Primary education, secondary education, higher education, all these kids, they just start blogging on WordPress. So there's no really something that is keeping them back. But we have, we cannot forget the teacher. They have to have control. And I don't mean control in a way of pushing or boundaries, but more like control, like monitoring, facilitating, like more like in the systems control. You have to see if you are on track, you want to make more individual learning arrangements for students. That's what I mean with control, for the portfolio learning. What is our strategy to get to reach our mission? We have to be demand driven. Because with open source software, you can go under the hood, you can change everything. And that is the power. We go in the school, we go, we talk with the teachers, with the teams, with the departments, with institutions, ask what their requirements are, ask what their boundaries are, or, or like demands. Sometimes they want to have, they see challenges. Sometimes they want to take away thresholds in the, in the learning process. We talk with them and we develop solutions tailored specifically for their learning challenges and learning problems. We also do it very modular, because if you listen to all these schools and you create all these learning solutions that are tailor made, then you end up with a big box of different solutions. What we try to do is make them modular and inter exchangeable, so that one, if school A says we want to have a nice badge, achievements, functionality, then I can say to school B, hey, do you know we now have a badge functionality? It was developed while partnering with school A. And you can also use it now, if we only have to activate it. So that makes us really a partner and not a supplier. That is really our strategy. We are not a traditional supplier, but we are partnering with the educational institutions. And we, we hear a lot that that helps our background in the, it's not that we are IT, we are not an IT solutions provider. We are a WordPress agency with this educational affinity for most. And we call this demand driven combined with modular, we call it mass customization. It's like you can have your sneakers designed and have an idea that is customized for you, but it still comes from the factory. So that is our trick to give a sense of build your own learning environment. And we, our challenge is to keep that manageable. So I will provide a brief overview on a conceptual level of this solution. We have a milk WordPress multi site installation. That is who doesn't know what a word multi site is multi site is you do a one magic line in your config file. And it's very magical because once you have that line in your config, you get a network of WordPress websites. You have your WordPress domain, for example, portfolio dot education. But then you can have portfolio education slash my portfolio student one, you can have portfolio student two, three, four, you can also have a learning portal one learning portal two. So inside this word, WordPress multi site, we hand out WordPress sites vanilla WordPress, we activate 100 200 300 teams depends on the demands or the depends on the choices of the institution. Some institutions say, well, let's keep it low profile. You only need five teams for our youngsters if they're very young, because you cannot give them 100 teams. But if you are in a higher education, high school, you can give them, for example, 200 teams to experiment with. And then you get various WordPress websites. Every student has a way to show their talents to give it a look in a field of their own liking. Make it their own. That is our ownership in the strategy. No in the mission. So we have ownership for students. But now we have to think about the teachers. So we create a special WordPress site. We install a plugin that we created specifically to make to aggregate all the activity from the separate WordPress sites from the students. And we start with a simple building block. You need a timeline. You need a feed. So when this student posts something on their timeline, it will show up in the feed, in the central place, because you cannot ask students, peer students or teachers to go and check if there is something new to be found. No, we are all used to timelines, personalized timelines also. So if this student chooses to share something he can say, I want to share it with a certain individual and keep it private for the rest. Or I want to share it with all the teachers inside the organization. Or I want to share it with all the teachers and the students inside the organization. That's the broadest way to share something. We see that a lot of the students they do, the least they do is share it with the teachers. And if they're proud of something or they say, I like this product, they share it also with the students. So here we have the basic concept of a community. You have separate WordPress sites and a timeline of activity. If we go further into the learning management area as a teacher or as a teaching department, you need ways to create resources, to have a library, to have manuals, to have something like your WordPress instructions. So it's a library of resources and you have profiles. This is an oversight of all the active learners inside the community. Then we also have projects and student records. Now we are really going to the learning management system part. Inside the projects, teachers can create tasks. They can assign those tasks. They can say, I want them to submit a questionnaire. I want them to submit just a blog. I want them to not submit something in my project. No, I want them to publish something on their portfolio which shows up inside the project as being handed in. So the learning environment is integrated with the WordPress portfolios of the students. It can also be the other way around. You say as a teacher, I want you to hand in your blog and I will assess it. I will use a rule break or I will use grading system. I will provide feedback, all these things we have developed for the teacher. But then the student can choose to publish it from here to their own portfolio and then it will show up again in the timeline. So in this way, we have like a learning management system that is really closed for the purpose of interaction between the teacher, the student and learning resources. Sure, small workspaces. You can have as many as you want and it is integrated with these separate WordPress sites that we all love. Now I am going to prepare my live demo. I have to go to my local host. I heard that it was being recorded so I had to make an anonymized version of one of our real-life clients. So I took the, how do you say it, the Film Academy in the Netherlands. They have been working with us for a long time from the beginning. From 2014, we started and now they have done a lot of years with their propidizer, their first years, second years, third years. So we have a lot of data to show here. I have renamed everyone to have a German famous name. So you will recognize some of them. And let's see if we go, well, let's start with the building blocks. I told you that there was a timeline. So in the center of the learning portal, you will see the timeline of all the blog posts that the students have published. So it can be sound. It can be visuals. It can be PDF files that we just embed inside WordPress automatically. It can be Word documents. It can be anything really. This is a Word document. The other was a PDF file. Nice thing of this PDF. It's just open source is that you immediately get ways to annotate inside the PDFs. So this is also a much requested functionality that we got for free with the WordPress plugins. Who have to go here? So if I click on the blog post that shows up in the timeline, I will, a popup will show. Let's stay on the page. And it will display the same page, but we will be on the portfolio of the students. So here you see that the student has done something of their own look and feel. So this is the timeline. The timeline shows an aggregation of all the posts from the WordPress sites. And you can just pop out, go to the WordPress site, watch it inside the context of the student's WordPress site, leave a comment and go back to the timeline if you want. We also have various widgets here. It can be widgets that show deadlines for the tasks that have been assigned to you. You can have announcements. It's more like an intranet. You can have messages that show up that have been posted inside the projects that you are a member of. And we have the profiles here. Is that this button? And I've prepared a group of students where I want to show the proof of concept of what we achieve if we give all these students their own WordPress site. So I will open up a few in various tabs. And if we go through them, we will see that they all have their own welcome to my mind. They have their own space. It's their own place where they collect and where they put their resources. They have their own look and feel. Some choose for more tiled structures. Others have more basic light weight theme. And so all these students have their own online presence that they have customized. This is the portfolio of a student that has made the design of the learning management system that you see now because we are partnering with the film academy. So we had a version one. It was really nice, but it was not nice enough. We are not designers. We are open source enthusiasts that want to throw WordPress at students. So they said, we have a student. He's a graphic designer. He can help you design the learning portal. So he did it for us and we implemented his design. This is also an example of how open you can be towards your clients. So if you want to have a different look and feel, send us your design and we will implement it. He's now a third year, I think, or maybe fourth year already. So these are all examples of these portfolio sites. This is what makes us happy to see that the students do a lot with their own portfolio sites. If we go inside the projects, let's see. I can't see it. Oh yeah, first one. Here you can see all the projects and I will go to the projects of the year 2021. And I will open up, for example, let's take another one. This one, this is a first year project. And now we go into this building block that we mentioned. This is the separate workspace where the teacher and the students can have interaction around learning resources. They can send messages. Remember to bring your camera tomorrow or these kind of things. This is a static description. This is like a study program, a syllabus that you can create so you can drag and drop various resources, activities, tasks, you can combine those. This is called a learning arrangement. Sometimes you want to have a thematically oriented syllabus and you want to say we do an introduction. We have a resource that you have to watch. Then we have a college and then you have a final assessment. Then we have a new theme. So you want to be able to combine resources with tasks with activities. This is where you do it. And the students have an overview from A to Z what is expected from them. Here you can add the students and the teachers and you can manage who has access to this workspace. And I will show a few tasks. So this was a task. This was the description of the task. You can assign it to the students. Five students have not been assigned it. Those students have all been assigned this. And if you want to assess, you can just see the students. You can open up what they have submitted. You can see that the teacher has checkboxed it. So from here, as a teacher, you can provide the feedback, go from top to bottom. And so all these assignments, you can manage it as a teacher. So this is what we mean with teacher control. You have a way to administer, to organize and to facilitate the learning process and also to provide individual feedback. This is an example of a group assessment, of a group task. So you see that they can also work together in groups. One of the students, they submit the work. But it will show up as being completed in the student profiles of all the teachers. So if you go to the report, here you see all the tasks that have been designated as being important for the progress inside the project. You don't need all the tasks in the report. You create a selection. So as a teacher, you have simplicity. You can see who is on track. You can even close the project for the participants so that they have finished it. If you have done this for a long period of time, for example, for many years, I'm sorry, I have to go to the student files. Then all the activities from the various projects will show up and will be aggregated inside the student file. I will also take the student that has designed it. So I'm now in the student file. Here we see all the portfolio posts of our friend, the student. We have a progress report. This is like a formative, so you can see, but you can only see this if you have access to the student file. This is important if you are a coordinator or if you are like a accreditation committee member that has to do an audit. You can provide access to a student file so then can see all the activity of the student in all the projects without having to be added as a teacher to the project, because that would not be manageable. And then I can see and dive into all the things that this student has done, whether they have completed it, what they did. So this provides overview for the teacher. Here you see a rubric that has been used for the assessment. And we also have a summative file which is more like used for the end results, like semester evaluations or did this guy get his first year or not. So I will go back to my presentation. Now we go to the interactive part. How much time do we have? 20 minutes? So this is where you can ask questions. I wanted to show more, like rubrics, interactive timeline. Oh, I have an interactive timeline. This is also just for your to get a sense of what we do. This is the same learning environment as for the Film Academy, but they wanted to create a timeline. So if you go to the open source solutions, you have these things that you can utilize. This is from Knight's Lab. I don't know who's familiar with Knight Lab. This is a journalism study in the San Francisco University that provided tools to create narratives. So you can have timelines, but you can also have like pictures that you can see before and after an earthquake. They have very nice tools for storytelling. So this is also an example that we, if someone says, I would like to have a timeline, we go out into the open source community, integrate the timeline, go back, we say, here's your timeline. Do you like it? And then we say to the other clients, it works. You can now use the timeline. So this is the way we work. Yes. Yeah. It's for the recording. Okay. Maybe you already said it or told us when the students finish their studies, can they take their WordPress project with them? Yeah. That is the good news because we have three ways to do that. Some students, they just want a static export. We created a special way of exporting the entire WordPress site to an USB stick. You can do it with online crawlers. It's the way that you download an entire website. We have a second option that is the WordPress export. And we say, hey, you can host your own WordPress. You can use the WordPress exporter, import it again, and you can host your own. That is called the export option. But we even have a third option. This is a migration option. We have now, we are now in cooperation with two high schools and they want to have a separate learning community for the students that have graduated from the high schools and they want to have a new portfolio of education environment outside of the walls of the high school. We can pick up their portfolio that was inside the high school learning community. We can transport it into the community where all the graduates come together and they can go on and continue with the community learning that they were used to during their school. This is something that is really, I think, important to mention that this is a large demand at least in the Netherlands. We see that the high school students, they go into the work field and they're on their own again. And during the study, they had their peers and they had their networking, but they start working as a teacher in the arts in the school or they start as a freelance artist. But all of the graduates say we need something to keep in touch, to have a shared agenda, to mobilize also in the policy field because in the politics it's important to have these kind of things as a group. If you are dispersed, you don't have a lot of power, but if you know where to find each other's knowledge and enforce each other as a community, well, then you have more power, I think. So that's the long answer to the can they take their WordPress site with them? Not all answers will be that long. Yes. Thank you. Have you run into any legal issues that students posted copyrighted images or text that is not appropriate? Text is not appropriate. We haven't seen it. It was a lot of schools in the lower ages. They were afraid of it, cyber-bullying and inappropriate content. We never saw it, because it's not anonymous. If they do it, then you have a nice hook to combine it with lessons in media literacy, or we call it in Dutch media weisheid, was that nice of you to do or not? We turn it around. If it happens, it's a nice pedagogical hook to take a look at it with the class and make it something that you can talk about, because it is a closed environment. We see a lot of schools. They have WhatsApp, they have Instagram, and the things that go around in these groups, there you have a lot of problems, because it's not a school environment. It's just a big tech, and they can do whatever they want the students, but not inside here, because everybody can see each other. The other legal issues are also the GDPR of course. We have a lot of legal obligations like process-arranged contracts that we have to describe what data we use, how we process it, what we will do with it, how long we will keep it. We are now growing. We did a European tender and we have won it. You have also now. This is really crazy that with a business with two brothers, you can win a European tender. That's not necessary to have an ISO 27001, because you have internal audits, external audits. We are with two guys with a lot of partnerships. We did a lot of other things to comply with these kind of regulations that you can go about it creatively. One more final thing. With the copyright, we have also partnered up with a high school institution. This is Knowledge Center in the Netherlands. It's called SERV, and they have created a copyright scanning tool that integrates with all the resources that the teachers upload inside the learning environment. It will be scanned by a separate tool, and it will provide the library department of the high school with high-risk content. For example, if they do more than 16 pages, they can get a fine. If they copy an entire book, it will show up in a dashboard. These are also a lot of developments in that field. I've got three questions. The first one is how many instances do you have an average school? I have here the statistics. This is how far we got with the two, three of us in 10 years. We have 27 installations of WordPress. It's not really much, but inside it, we have 14,000 sites. We have 30,000 accounts created all time. From 2013, this means that there are also students that have already stopped. Inside here, we have 67 organizations. This is the building block where you have a learning portal with 10,000 active students as of this year. In this year, 10,000 students are using their WordPress site learning community. The teachers have created 5,000 projects. They have sent 7,000 messages, posted 8,000 resources, 27,000 learning arrangement objects, and 10,000 tasks, 165,000 assignments. That's something where the student can submit work. They have provided 111,000 submissions. It could be a blog post and 53,000 assessments. In the WordPress post, we have 17,500 indexed posts in the timeline. Thank you for that. That leads me to my next question. How do you handle these huge databases, backups, restorings? Maybe do you do snapshots every night? Or do you have an individual backup of every installation? What about all these file sizes? About these? These file sizes, all the web hosting. Do you host on your own? Yes, we host on OpenStack because it's also open source. OpenStack is like a cloud environment. It's like Amazon Web Services, but it's open source. We have an open stack provider in Amsterdam, really high quality. We went with them from the start. You pay a little bit more, but they are really enthusiasts and they do it the right way because you don't want to have an Achilles heel in your infrastructure. Then we have just the basics like a virtual private server, which is crazy. You don't even need a dedicated server to do this. This is because we started small and a VPS can scale easily. We still have VPSs, but now we are thinking about going to a dedicated server because of these large numbers. We also have the backups here. We do it incrementally. We use a quite good tool. It's called RESTIC. We have looked at a lot of tools, but RESTIC is really unique. It's very lightweight and it does deduplication. You have an incremental backup. It will only create snapshots of data that has been added. It will encrypt it and it will backup it to any backend that you can think of. You can use FTP, WebDov. You can use your own Google Drive. We use Wasabi. Wasabi is a very interesting storage provider. They provide storage for a fraction of the cost of the big names. Up till now, I check the backup integrity. I check it regularly because I want to be able to sleep. Up till now, I can really recommend this. Wasabi in combination with RESTIC. That really isn't a nice combo. RESTIC, R-E-S-T-I-C. Wasabi is just, you can find it online. First, you have to scroll to the sushi shops, but then you find Wasabi. Third-party integrations. This is where a lot of the things happen that schools already have. They have a student information system. They have a learning management system. They have an internet, for example, SharePoint. Really, we had a high school that had hundreds of portfolios in SharePoint. They had SharePoint sites for the students. You know what they asked of us? We work with portfolio education right now. Can you migrate all the portfolios from SharePoint to WordPress? To their own WordPress site? We managed it. Why? Because we are in the WordPress community and we can solve everything. That is so cool about it. We create a cool CLEE command. We create fewer things to read the internet, SharePoint, and everything was in the WordPress site. This is also a very important way for us. It's really like the tool on my belt. I do almost everything with WayPayCLEE. Do you have further questions? Yes. We have to get in touch because I'm from Cologne. We are not so far away and we're doing quite the same things at the University of Applied Science in Cologne, also with WordPress Multisite. Great. We have similar questions. One of it was that we are also in a design school. We have also a film school which is using it. It's really quite similar. But we are in the University. We are not an agency. We are a project team in a university. That's the perfect way to do it. They should do it now. Sometimes, not always, but it's incredible that you are doing this like us for years and we don't know anything. That is also why we are here. We have been doing this for 10 years and this is also therapeutic for us. I saw WordCamp. I thought, let's send an email to get it off my chest that we have been doing this for 10 years and we have to go outside more often because it's a lot of work. It's great. We have to get in touch and you have to come to Cologne or we have to come to you in the Netherlands. It's really interesting because we're using it for design, also for the design school. We started in the design school and we have project-based learning and learning management systems are not so good at this to provide project-based learning and we decided not to use themes that every student could have. It's his or she their own theme because we are a really small team and you have to update the themes. Do you use one theme that they can? No, we give them a lot of themes. We discuss it with the institution. Some say five themes is enough. Some say we want to have the full Monty. But this is a challenge for us because we just go to the themes.org or how do you say it? The wordpress.org directory and we have a curated list of themes that we trust, themes that have been updated regularly, themes that look good and don't have a lot of premium features. So we have our own list of wordpress themes but sometimes a theme is obsolete. So then we have to throw it out and tell the student, oh, you have to work with a different team. So it's difficult but we want to give that. How do you manage this too? Because also if you update a theme there are always problems. Yeah, we have never had problems. No, I just hit the update button. I do it outside office hours and I say with the Waypecli with a call. This is also very important to Waypecli combined with Cron. It's really amazing because you can just with the two of us you can do you can automate anything that you want. So I just say update all the themes and if there we also tell them that we work with open source. So if there is an issue get on create a ticket and we will solve it. But that's interesting that you say it with themes we never had any issues. No, never. We have hundreds of them. Yeah, we decided against the themes because we thought if there is something different then and they look differently after you update the themes then you have always support your questions and we are only also a really small theme. A team two three people with students and so we said no it's one theme and but I found it's a really interesting idea to have a block where you collect everything and this is the other question. How do you do it technically? How to connect the portfolio to the block? Do they have to become authors or do they have to join the course? Yeah, we connect the WordPress site of the student to the organization. So that is the building block here. So this WordPress site has to be connected with this organization. Inside the network you can have like 30 organizations because in a high school you have 30 programs. So if this student follows like graphic design they are connected to the organization of graphic design. A different student can be connected to comic design or to the acting school. And this is just a setting here. It's a block option and we have our own plugin and this is why WordPress is so amazing. You have all these hooks and these actions. So all the activity that goes on inside the network can hook into your plugin and you can say hey student posted the blog post let's create an index post we call it. So something that shows up in the timeline. But populated with the post content that originated here but you don't have to copy the media. So if student uploads a big media file here it will show up here in the HTML content. It will show the it will serve the media from the source blog post. So it's really like an index and you have plugins that do this. Also multi site plugins that say index all your posts so you can search through the network. We used it we looked at it. But that is also our challenge. If you start getting better at WordPress and utilizing the force more and more plugins you just throw away because with a few lines you can do the same as with a separate plugin. So you have only one one central block. I will call it the organizers block for a study program not for a course. No because the courses they are inside the organization. But this is interesting that you mentioned it. There's also like different arrangements possible and this is the educational challenge. So you have for example a graphic design organization with courses graphic design with the teachers but you can also have graphic design comic design and for example something else media design but you can have a fourth organization where you put these three organizations all the students together in a community that goes about about design. So now we have also on a high school one central organization. All the students go in there. We have academy level organizations. So then you can have academy wide announcements for example or academy wide. I'm looking for a base player kind of things and you have more study program oriented organizations. So you can play with this arrangement. Thank you very much. We have to talk. Anyone else. I have a question related to the infrastructure. Do you use any containerization tools like Docker or even Kubernetes? I used to do open project on Docker. Open project is by the way the best. It's a German open source project. We looked at ways to manage all this complexity. Open project is really incredible to work with. So open project we ran it in a Docker system but eventually we just created a dedicated virtual server for it and ran it through the package. But a lot of things Docker is very powerful. You can just experiment easily with tools through Docker. But if you start using it when production environment sometimes you just make other choices. Okay, thanks. You're welcome. I have a question about performance and themes which are dependent on plugins you'll need to provide. Are there some concerns or like yes rules that we shouldn't use too much to. There are concerns. Yes. Well, it's a big concern and we'd rather not talk about it. So I mean what we got it was really weird. It's something that you learned that there was a theme and the students saw an admin notice and they said hey install this plugin that goes with this theme. And it was really crazy but there was a theme that allowed without a permission check for the students to install it through the theme installer this plugin. So we really were pissed. You know these are the things this is the risk but it never in 10 years it never created big problems but I have to admit you have to be risk tolerant to do this work. So we just hide the admin notices. We said you cannot do this if you're a student. If you want it maybe we will do it reach out to us but we don't like to sell no. So if a student says I need this plugin tell us why not. We scanned the plugin maybe we install it. Okay. So basically they need to give you a good reason to insert. Okay. But we like to keep the students as far away from our help desk. So we make we make an agreement that the students help each other. They use Google because that's also the case. WordPress is not ours. It's everybody's and it's really well documented. So if we say Google it they really find solutions for everything. And you also see that if a student has a lot of problems with the team they don't get mad at us. They get mad at the team and they just say this is not a fine good theme. I would take the other theme that my fellow student says this one is very easy to work with. So that way it works out. Thank you very much. Yeah. It's a different mentality towards using technology. You make them the owner and if they start complaining you have a constructivist approach say let's solve it together. So conclusion WordPress is a content management system but if you do a multi-site it's a community management system. This is something that this is the way we look at WordPress. It makes this makes this very powerful multi-site. WordPress as a portfolio works for students for all the levels that is something that we see and WordPress as a platform works for schools and institutions. They can think about anything. They can say can we narrow cast some content from your learning network to our monitors in the building. But we want to have separate posts in the teacher room than the cafeteria room. No problem we can do it. This is the platform thinking. You can connect everything to it. The plans for the future are refactoring because we are now for the second version with the redesign but now we want to we have created our own plugin. We never got to it to open source it and this is practice what you preach. So what we're going to do is refactor it enough that we dare to show our code. It's now really object oriented and and this guy he does things with with patterns and type patterns a singular and abstract and some the one is an anti pattern. The other thing is something you really want decorating objects. We will do that here. We already started it. Then we go open source so everybody can use it and we want to do the community building and that is why we are here. We want to go out from our computers and go back to go into with the good news. Well this was my talk. We feel like David and Goliath sometimes we have kicked out a lot of big tech from the education institutions. School started working with a Microsoft education for example but now complete departments they just don't work in it anymore because they say that WordPress that is really flexible. So I hope together we can be an army of David's. Thank you very much for this. This was a fantastic presentation. I loved it and I think we're all excited about what you've done what you built. Really great. Thank you very much. This is for you. Thank you. Nice. And yes so portfolio.education. I'm very much looking forward when it's open source and we can like begin. I'm really happy that you're doing this because like that's I've been dreaming about putting WordPress in everybody's even from the start like they learn to blog because that's a very it's another way of communicating. It's better than Instagram. They learn that it's not only putting on a duck face and this is me and this is me in a different pose with WordPress they learn their computer skills again. It's now getting a bit lost with these big tech social media. And they have a voice of their own. They have to they present themselves as they want not as the algorithm wants them to be. Yes. Love it. Thank you very much. So now it's time for lunch. So well yeah it's going to be in 10 minutes. It's going to be time for lunch. Please take some time to visit the sponsors because they are the ones who make all of this possible. 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