 Well, I guess at home, he says that if I want him to, that he'll testify, he said he got a hundred thousand re-study going on, that won't be out until September. That he can't tell that if the railroad haul is coal out of there and the economics are such that it won't justify, that he'd be in the hell of a shape. So he says what he'll testify is this, that the engineers have a construction capability for 1965 contingent on favorable re-study of the economics of the project, that he believes that it will be a favorable re-study, that he believes that they can get barges out of there. But he can't see positively because he's got a hundred thousand wrapped up in this study. It's coming out in September and said if it came out the wrong way, he'd be in the hell of a shape. But he'll put it in, he'll say that they have a capability contingent on the re-study and you can put the money in contingent on the re-study and then he, if the re-study goes against it and the project's no good, he'll just have to not spend it. You accept his division engineer and St. Louis told us today that they did have this construction capability. Well he says they'll have a construction capability if the thing ought to be built at all. But if the economics of it not justified and they'll know when they get through this hundred thousand study, which will be through in September. So he says put your money in, contingent upon it being justified. Okay. And I told him to go as strong as he could and he said he'd go sixty thousand. So he'll testify for sixty thousand for you. And don't you tell anybody now that you got it back door to the White House that you go up there and don't you kill my goddamn tax bill tomorrow. And quit messing around in my smokehouse. You forget that I bought a key at people's drugs to it. Well, I know it. I got a label on it back door at the White House. Hard Republicans are going to vote against you tomorrow. Well, against what? Against your rate on the Treasury. I don't know whether anybody's going to vote against you. Well, how many will you let vote against you? Well, I don't know. I have to do a little whispering. I'm going to lose a bunch of people on my side. So I've got to get to the three of you on there. You're a hard bargain. Well, you get them from it. Now, here's what Joe Fowler says. Joe Fowler says that the position Males is taking is a correct position. That his committee will make a full definitive study of the present taxes immediately. And that study should be continued. That is my strong feeling. I would like to, I would have to stick with the colleagues in the Treasury. Once you uncork this thing just a little bit, you're a little bit pregnant and you'll never know where it ends. You will have great difficulty with Males if you try to take off some of the taxes. He wouldn't allow that. Whatever was said at the time, the big tax bills up about hearings was not to give any indication that the administration subscribed. Furthermore, no statement was made that hearings would be held before June the 30th. Some of them said that is made. So I called him. Now, you offer your amendment, but don't you don't you got time on his side? He can kill it. No, don't kill it in conference. That gets everybody upset. You get every damn outfit in the country and don't make it cruel and inhuman punishment. That's unconstitutional. Why? Everybody's upset all the time. No, what do you think? I just got you straightened out. $30 million worth. You let me upset for 100 days on that time. $30 million. You got yourself in debt. You're the hero of our now. I don't forget anybody else's round. Every time I pick up papers, Dirksen magazine, NAACP is flying Dirksen banners and pick it in the White House tomorrow. I couldn't even get you to change your your tune about that damn house bill. Oh, the hell you couldn't. I told him that the first thing they asked me, I said, whatever Dirksen attorney general agree on, I'm far. That's what I sent him up there to agree for. You know, you never got a call from me during the whole outfit. You know it. But don't don't mess up that tax bill tomorrow. Now, ever, please don't. Well, I gotta offer this. Well offered, but don't John Williams is not for aid in the treasury. So get him to save you. Well, he's been my savior before. Well, I'll get him to do it. Well, we'll see. Okay.