 Yeah, we think about death. Hey, first computer exercise idiots. I'm Corbin. Ugh. Hey there. I'm an idiot. Uh, and falls on Instagram and clicks on juicy content. It's so juicy. And, thank you all so much. I'm Patreon, I'm Polish, official Twitter account. What? And today. Hey. We were reacting to a long video, but in order to understand the special request, we are standing in a special request so we don't make you mad by calling them Jack Sparrow. We are reacting to a little video about the- The agorys. The agorys. Wait a minute. You mean they predated Jack Sparrow? Yeah. And since a lot of you misunderstood what we were saying, I wanted to, since obviously we don't know these people very well, so I want to learn more about them. Especially since we're going to see that movie with Saif Ali Khan. Yeah. But- Saif Ali Khan. Read the disclaimer for me real quick, please. Ahem. Hrrra. The agori Nagasadu are a small group of aesthetic Shiva. Believe in Shiva as Supreme Being. They engage in post-mortem rituals. For those of you studying at home, post-mortem means after death. They often dwell in charal grounds, smear cremation ashes on their bodies, and use bones from human corpses for crafting kapalas, skull caps, which Shiva and other Hindu deities are often ironically depicted holding or using. They renounce all social taboos to seek moksha, freedom from the cycle of reincarnation. They are extremely secretive. They are feared by few and misunderstood by many. Might contain graphic content information, proceed with caution, while we're in. Ha ha ha ha ha. You had me with proceed with caution. The minute you say graphic content be warned. Okay, great. Let's start watching. YouTube's gonna demonetize us for it. That's true. We don't like that. No, no, no, we don't like that. But strap in. Let's learn some skills. How long is this thing? 17. Oh, wow. Here we go. They've been around for a while, so I guess they would have some, a lot of history. You're feared by few. There's two segments of this video. The first one was trimmed out of a documentary. The second one was taken from a video uploaded by Isha Foundation. One of the more interesting subjects I photographed on this trip was Mahesh, Gauri Sadri. What made it interesting to me was his backstory. He spoke pretty good English, so he can explain to us his past. But he was a very well paid engineer. He always felt that there was something missing in his life, and that's why he chose to be at Gauri. As you can imagine in any country, leaving a well paid job is something that's very looked down upon and it's very hard to understand why people do that. They don't like fortune coming in dollars. But he really, he told me all he wants is just peace and quiet. He just wants to focus and Gauri is the path that he chooses to do that. My name is Mahesh. And I just changed my mind. Having equal to good of money, everything was there with you. I thought, let me have a change in there. And find out what is the real truth of living. You looked shocked. When he was there, that doesn't, doesn't mean that you'll get all the happiness together if money is there. There are certain things you cannot buy with the money. Correct. But money can buy, I had brought all the things. Money can buy this camera, money can buy that, this, everything. But there are certain things you cannot buy money. With money, you cannot see God. So I thought, okay, let me see the heart that's giving us that money. Then I asked my guru, that's the teacher. He said, see, without your parents' will, you cannot go see God and all that. First take their permission. Take their permission, left my house, not even taking a single rupee, paying not even a single penny I had in there. So I took care of the tickets, I went into the train and came back to Bahamas. I came up this side of the town, it was very quiet, simple, practicing for almost 10 years. Not going to go back. Or he guessed. This tell me something, sky and the earth together. It's the last thing of the human day. After that, you can, ashes, ash is the most last. And before ash is the sky, any one or the other day, you're all gonna become this. Death is something, everybody's scared of. All the people are scared of death. One or the other day, they're going to die. So in death years, they start crying. So when you embrace death, welcome death, death will not come to you. All one has to go, for a new one to come. This death and birth is something, a cycle. So we are not scared of death. The holy ash is the main thing for Nagori. Whatever happens, you don't get scared of anything. What others can't do, they will. That's the work of Nagori. So you've had ashes on his face when he was getting in the trailer. Yeah. It would be better to know all this going into the film. I think this part got copyrighted. And so they, they, yep, they told me that they had to mute a certain part. Yeah, this is the part they had to mute. So thank you for doing my job for me. I appreciate that. And we understand what it's like to have to mute something because of a copyright issue. Yes. If it's too long, I'll cut it. So don't worry. Whatever you see in this role as illusion is what he just said. He's a deeply spiritual people. Nice shot. Wow. Yeah, if you couldn't read the subtitles saying it's all illusion, it's not permanent, it will change. Today we're wearing this and tomorrow it may not be there. Everything you manage won't know that they did. This building's also been managed won't know that they did. So it's not my illusion. That was abrupt. Now that brings me to another thing when people find, for example, what happens in bananas. Things like aghoris. Some people, foreigners, they talk to me, they also find that insanity. They think, what is this? I mean, like, people are going and doing bizarre things. Eating dead bodies or experimenting with various other things. What is, it also is something which I think for everyone it'll be what they could explain that. They have not probably visited the scientific laboratories, biological laboratories, where they would guess that. Absolutely bizarre things with various creatures. Yes or no? Yeah. All that is done with the intention of well-being. How much well-being comes out of it? We don't know, isn't it? Once in a way something comes out rest of the time, we are only doing bizarre things in the laboratories, aren't we? Even in a high school, if you study biology, you're cutting open frogs and looking into this and that. It's quite bizarre. Yeah. Isn't it quite bizarre? It's quite bizarre, but all of us have done it and continue to do it as if that's the only way to learn. I hate doing that. So what they are doing is, as I said, there is still prana in the body that is dead. So they are sitting there. If you go there to Manikhar, Nikka and Harishchandra Ghat, Aghoris will be sitting there watching everybody who will come. They inquire, how old is this person? How did he die? That's why some of them who don't want that to be known, they're covering with plastic sheets, you know, where people cannot see how old is the person? They won't say, how old was the person? But Aghoris want to know. If it's a young person, somebody who has vibrant life and for some reason he died, they want that kind. When that happens, they want to do work there. They want to make use of the energy that's released. Once the body begins to burn, this prana has to exit immediately. When that exits, they want to make use of that life energy to do something with themselves. Now, people won't give it to them because they don't want that air wants to be used like this. So what these people will do, if it is there, they'll grab the body and run. How do they get the bodies? So right now, don't you go to Africa and catch thousands of monkeys and bring it to, bring it to your laboratory to cut them and to do all kinds of experiments. All the monkeys are thinking, what's wrong with these people? Why are they doing this bizarre things to us? Yeah, but they are alive and you can see that you're injecting chemicals in them and you see the reaction and then you decide. But here the body is dead. That's what I'm saying. If the nails are growing, if the hair is growing, some life still exists, right? That part of the life they want to use. They don't want to do a live person because it will lead to human sacrifice. They don't want to do that. They're waiting for the dead to come. What energy is released from the dead body from cremation? They want to use that. If you do not know the science of that, you cannot just think it's all bizarre. Yes, it's an extreme way of doing it. It is not for everybody. It is something that should be done without, you know, without coming into the notice of a society. But unfortunately, everywhere there is population today. There was a time they would be here. There would hardly be anybody. They would do what they want to do for their growth and pumping. Oh, let me be a little cynical here. What is the contribution of an agori to the society? To a humankind? What have they done for us? I mean, if you talk about science, I can say, yes, those monkeys which have been used, ultimately, you've got some medicines, you've got some certain things which you can fight the diseases and stuff like that. But what has an agori given to the world which they should be proud of and we should give them a sanction to do things which a human being does not find beneficial to the world? What is beneficial to our society and what is not at different times, different times in history, different things people think is beneficial? In, for example, in Tamil Nadu, in ancient Tamilism history, the greatest title that a man can receive is, aayira anekonamati. That means one who killed slain 1,000 elephants. He is the real man. Well, Vidapin is almost halfway there. Don't kill him. Why do you treat him as a criminal? Just why don't you provide him with another 500? He claims he's killed some 500-odd elephants. If you provide him another 400 and all, he will be the greatest man in Tamil Nadu. Why don't you give him out of time, isn't it? He's like, not contextual. Not contextually right. So now, whatever you are talking of science as creating great benefits, it is only contextual now. Already it's beginning to happen. All the environmentalists are trying to block every scientific thing. Because people are beginning to understand in the name of development, we're completely destroying the very source of our well-being. Tell me, what is it that's destroyed this plant? Human. It's essentially technology, isn't it? Yeah, but technology is coming out of it. Yes, it's created humans. But I'm saying what you provided, which comes from pride, mostly you, though. There were other greats who wanted to conquer the whole world, but they couldn't do it. But it is the technology which did it, isn't it? So is technology bad? No. It is just that it's in the wrong hands. How it is used. So the type of technologies, which were 50 years ago, now we are looking down at it. How could somebody do this nonsense? If you see a chimney spooing smoke, today you think, oh my God, they pollute. 100 years ago, when there's so much chimney in Manchester City, they thought, wow, isn't it? So you are saying that agoris have become out of context? No, I'm not saying they're out of context. They have no context to the society. Their context is their ultimate well-being. They are only looking at the ultimate nature. How the society is today, they know, and we know that what is true today will be looked down upon tomorrow. What is great today will be thought as the most horrible thing day after tomorrow. This will anyway happen in the social structure. You are made to believe that this is the best. And tomorrow your next generation will stand up and say, what you did is the most idiotic thing. What you thought was a great thing. So they are not getting involved in the context of the society. They are only involved in the ultimate nature of their being. So they don't care what the society thinks. So they always stayed away from society. But today society is occupied with everything. They have no place to be. By that logic, we can define any, you know, we can justify any perversion. See, they are not causing harm to anybody. Never are they causing harm to anybody. Have you heard of any Aguri attacking anyone? No, he is doing something with himself. He's not an Samvatism. So people are taking drugs, people are drinking themselves to death, people are smoking and blowing it in your face. They're not doing any of those things there in remote places, doing their own thing with themselves, not with somebody else. Yeah, that's the point. That's the point. They are free to do what they want. Only with themselves. They're not doing it with anybody else. As far as they don't. As far as they don't scare the society, as far as they don't... See, the scaring the society is because society is just, populations have exploded and we are just everywhere. There is a secluded place to help. That's the point. That's the point that if they want to leave... And this explosion of the population in society is a culprit, not agoris. They don't reproduce at least. So then the over-glorification of agoris when we hear that they have got the super powers and all that, that probably is exaggeration and they are self-centered experimental beings. What is super and what is not super is again contextual. See, today you can pick up a little bit of plastic and metal in your pocket and speak to somebody in a Mac. Yes? If only you could do this 100 years ago, we would have treated you as God. So it's only contextual. Their thing is not about powers. It is just about they want to evolve to a place where what you hold as something that you have called, they are trying to befriend that because the moment you like something and the moment you dislike something, you have divided the existence. And once you divided the existence, you cannot embrace it. So they are going to whatever you would not be able to stand. He's very mad. What is most important for you, that is what they're referring to because they want to take their life and what they want to do. I'd like to ask him his definition of existence versus being. Yeah. This is a very interesting conversation. This whole thing, he's a good interviewer. Yeah, what kind of interviewer. Even if you don't do them. So it's a real question conversation. On the other hand, you have this, I think they're otherwise successful for some people. That's all that matters. It works. Yes. It is not for you and me. But for somebody, it works. I am not against anything that works. If it works, it's fine with me. Yeah, but it works for them and they can't ever tell you how it works. Right. You can say that I'm happy. So let me be. That's what they can say. They're not even talking about happiness. We know it works. Yes. It works, okay. In a certain way. In what way? Because certain transformations and capabilities, the display, which is otherwise not possible. Interesting. So wait a minute. Wait a minute. That was it? Well, it was a snippet of a documentary. Oh, hence why we didn't get any of the graphic content. Yes. Gotcha. So that was, especially the second part. I mean, it was interesting to see the Agori and him talk. And they're very epic looking people, honestly. There's that one that was just sitting there with a skull. Yeah. Well, and then the conversation was actually very interesting. Even if you don't agree with certain things, it's always interesting to hear two people with very different opinions. As long as it's not politics, that's just annoying. But if it'd be nice to see people talking politics the way those two men were talking. And they have one has a point. Yes. The only one they wanted to understand, the ones expressing, and I'm sure there were times one said something that the other one didn't agree with. And rather than negate them, there was really a good example of proper Q and A when you're getting to know each other and maybe disagree with something. Yeah. And whoever that interviewer is, he's really good. Really good. He did a really good job. He did a good job of questioning, but being respectful. Yeah. And like we said, we don't know anything about Agoris. No, and this may be way off base. Yeah, so you can tell us. I was wondering, because it said at the beginning they sometimes eat humans. Right. So is that old back in the day Agoris? Because he says they don't hurt this guy. Right, that's it. They don't hurt. That's why I said, any, where do they get their dead bodies? Yes, I don't know if they're like people, like when they like a donor card or something like they want to give right, or at least at a different Agori or I don't know. These are the questions we have. And also they look both those guys, which just may be the case, look extremely slender Saif Ali Khan's a beefy dude. Yeah. So I want, I'd love to know how in depth Saif Ali Khan got into portraying an Agori. Because if it were you or I, I know we would be full immersion of, I want to represent this people group. I want to learn about them. And I want to do everything I can. Maybe he's not a Nagori anymore. Maybe he like wants a Nagori to keep some practice. And maybe there's a difference of ways of agorism, if that's the word is practiced. I don't know. But it is intriguing. Never heard about this before. Yeah. I'm glad to watch this because we obviously we're going to see the Saif Ali Khan film. So we'll know at least a little bit more background behind certain things that he's doing in the film, which will be interesting. Just maybe want to know more though. I felt like there was a lot that didn't tell us. I'll ask the people who made this for me what the documentary is. Because that conversation alone was quite interesting just to hear the juxtapositions of two that are completely basically opposite. And even if that guy believed some of the stuff, he was a good interviewer. And as a good interviewer was something that a lot of people don't agree with or don't whatever and don't think is the right way. He had the devil's advocate interviewer, which is what you want. You want these people to be able to answer these questions and give people the answer. And the important thing about doing an interview like that is that you ask a question based on your particular point of view, logic, everything else. And then you let them answer it. And whether you agree or you don't agree, you just let their answer sit. Yeah. And that's what he did. His job is not to debate. His job is to interview. Exactly. And so I think he did a masterful job. I did too. So I'm assuming he's a seasoned interviewer. I'd really like to know more about this, the agori. Yeah, really would. So if there's more videos, please send it to us. If there's some information that was misinterpreted, as always, you'll let us know down in the comments. I am a little disappointed that there was no Sartaj. I'm sure we'll get a bunch in the film.