 And once we understand and recognize and appreciate that employees have their own career goals, investing in those career goals is what's going to help improve employee experience for them as we go forward. And that doesn't mean we have to spend a lot of money on training or software or anything like that. What it does mean is that we can, when we have a project that we need to get done, and that aligns with one of our employees' career goals, even if they're not the first person we might pick to run that project or to be on that project, we can help them achieve those career goals, show that we're investing their career goals by letting them gain some skills and experience from being on that project. We can also maybe let them go over to another part of the organization that aligns with their career goals for a short period of time, let them learn over there, get a new perspective and bring that back to us. And that just helps all of us be better employees, be a better part of the bigger organization.