 The Mac Observers, Mac Geek Cab Episode 896 for yet again, Monday, October 18th, 2021. And welcome back to the Mac Observers, Mac Geek Cab, the show where you normally send in your tips, your questions, your cool stuff found. And we mash it all together so that we each learn five new things. Today's episode is a little different because, A, we released Episode 895 about six hours ago and B, in between, Apple has done their unleashed events. So we are here today to share our thoughts and dissections from that, from that event. It won't be a play by play because you could go watch it or you could go read the coverage at live.macobserver.com. But instead, we're here kind of sharing our reactions and interests and things that we liked and didn't like and, you know, all of that good stuff. Our sponsor for this episode is IMAZING, we're at IMAZING.com using coupon code IMAZINGM1X. Yes, I know. The coupon code had to be generated before the show was recorded and before Apple's event was out. You get to save 30% on all their licenses there. So we'll talk more about IMAZING in a minute. For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in Fairfield, Connecticut, John F. Brun. Also here in Durham, New Hampshire is an uninvited guest today. There is a fly in the studio and I guarantee you it is going to cause major distractions for me. It might turn out to be a full on caddyshack moment where you get to witness me destroying the studio live in real time. Or if you listen at one and a half speed, well, then you get to listen to me destroying the studio faster. Okay. What did you think overall, John? What did you think of this very short event by Apple standard? Yeah, some stuff was eh. Okay. And some stuff was like, I expected that. Cool. And there was probably some stuff you didn't expect, John. Because how could you have? The rumors didn't have all of those things. So. You're right. Yep. I know. Yeah. And they were wrong in some things, but we'll talk about those shortly. As always. So I liked how they started it off. I was like, oh, hey, I know what that is. That's the first the first iMac. Yeah. And it looked like it was it was as close to the the jobs garage as we have seen in a recreation from Apple anyway. Yeah. And then and then, you know, a guy composing a video with, you know, the chimes, the old chimes sounds and stuff like that. And I think I saw what was it? Was it an Apple stereo? Oh, I don't think there was. Remember Apple had a thing where where it was like a speaker system and you could put an iPod in it. Did you notice that? Oh, the it was the. Oh yeah, what did they call that thing? Yeah, it wasn't a home pod, but it could have been. But it was an eye home. No, eye home was the is a brand. But I know what you're talking about. Yeah. The name escapes me. Maybe somebody in the chat room. Apple Hi-Fi or something in the maybe somebody in the chat room will deal with will deal with this and research it for us. It's live at live.mackycap.com. Thank you. Yeah, no, this it was I liked that. It was a nice way to start this since we knew that there was going to be quite a bit about the Mac in this in this thing. And sure enough, there was quite a bit about the Mac. The the MacBook Pros to me were certainly the most exciting thing that Apple did the and of course the evolution of the M1, which we'll talk about too. But the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pros really like what they're doing with those really blew me away. They the it's what's I don't know. I didn't even know where to start with this. The for those of you that are going to go order one and you can bring up my screen for the video, John. But if you're going to go order one of these things, they the pricing that Apple announced is the baseline pricing for these. So on the 14 inch, they say that it is 1999 on the 16 inch, they say that is 2499. 1999 on the 14 inches, the eight core version of the M1 Pro CPU with a 512 gig SSD. You bump that up to 2499. If you want the 10 core version, this is the 14 inch, right? So 10 core CPU, which is the one that they were sort of pushing is the M1 Pro. That's 2499. That's and it also bumps it up to a one terabyte SSD. You can go deeper though and spend more, of course, because from there, from that 10 core CPU at 2499 for the 14 inch, you can jump up 200 bucks to the max with a 24 core GPU or a max for another for another 200 to 400 total for it with a 32 core GPU. You can add that 16 gigs of RAM going up to 32 gigs. We'll bump it up another 400 bucks. If you add the max CPU, then you can go up to 64 gigs of RAM, which is 800 bucks. And then of course you can bump up the SSDs and those sorts of things. So that's on the 14 inch. So these start to get expensive very quickly, which is not overly surprising. It's just how it be. The 16 inch is suffers a similar fate. The 2499 on the 16 inch is the 10 core CPU, right? But only a 512 gig SSD. So this is interesting for 2499. You can get the 14 inch with a one terabyte SSD or the 16 inch with a 512 gig SSD, same price. That's because it's the same CPU 10 core 16 core GPU of course, and then the 16 gigs of RAM. So the prices of these, that 1999 is a bit of a distraction. So, but I did, I ordered, did you order one of these? I ordered a 14 inch. I probably will keep it to be perfectly honest, but I ordered it just to, because I want to see what it's like, but I did it with the 10 core CPU. Did you, or are you going to order one of these, Mr. Braun? Maybe. Okay. Which one would you order? I'm curious. Would it be the 14 inch screen? No. Or the 16 inch screen? No, I'd like, because yeah, I have the current 16 inch Intel based. I like having lots of screen. Lots of screen. Okay. Yeah. So I think I get the 16 inch. The nice thing is that they increase the, you know, the RAM, the maximum RAM. Right. But I think I'd get it with 16. I don't think I need more, but for people that need more, it's nice that they introduce the new chips. I mean, we were all suspecting that they would have, you know, a M1X or M1, and yeah, and they did. Right. So that's nice. Right. Yeah. And we'll talk about the difference between the M1 Pro and the M1 Max in a minute here, but interesting. Yeah. The, let's talk, you mentioned RAM. I have 16 on both my M1 Max, my Air and my Mini. And that has been enough. There has been issues that we've heard about from a few Mackie Kebblisters. There's many of you out there who are consultants, who, you know, see lots of different Macs, of course, from different clients. And there's been a series of reports, people with eight gigs of RAM in their M1 Max, that are running into, if they have lots of tabs open in a browser, it could be Safari, it could be Chrome, it doesn't matter. They get the, you know, your machine is out of RAM. We don't know what to do. You know, error message. I'm obviously paraphrasing there. So, but I have never experienced that with 16. I think we've heard one report of it happening with 16, but certainly not as common as with eight. I, on the 14 inch that I ordered, I bumped it up to the 32 gigs of RAM. Just to, you know, if I figure if I'm going to do it, I might as well, you know, have the future proof it a little bit. So, yeah, yeah. I think 64 is great if you really need it. I think 32 is, it might be overkill, but you know, we tend to keep our machines a while around here. So, I figure it's worth the investment upfront because obviously you can't, you can't change it. So, the screens are interesting. The 14 inch screen, the display does 3024 by 1964. It's got 5.9 million pixels. And the 16 inch display, 7.7 million pixels, 3456 by 2234. So, that's a, I mean, that's a, either one of those is a lot of screen real estate. That's absolutely fantastic. Yeah. I noticed something that in my humble opinion should not be spread among the product line. Okay. But yeah, some people suspected that they would put a notch. And yes, there is a notch. Now, I mean, the good news is that it's a better camera. So, it's now 1080p FaceTime camera. It's like, what took you guys so long to figure that out? Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But having a notch in there just... Well, there were two problems with the old... To me, a notch, including the notch on my iPhone, Dave, I just think it's kind of sloppy design. I don't know. Well, if you're going to put that camera there, you either need to leave room in the entire bezel for it or just that part of the bezel, and they've decided to make it just that part of the bezel. I do, I'm curious, though, to see, I mean, look at what they've done with it on iOS, right? That becomes the, you know, the status bar, if you will, at the top of the screen. They say that they've done the same thing with the menu bar, where the menu bar intelligently sort of wraps around the notch, which, to me, means a really... That, to me, is really smart design. It's like, okay, well, we need to notch this thing out because we want a camera here. We don't just want to make the bezel bigger because then you lose all that space for a screen. So, to me, that seems like a really smart way of doing it. But it also opens the door for bartender, right? The Mac tool, I think, at macbartender.com, right? Yeah, Mac Bartender, which is a tool I already use on all my Macs anyway. It allows you to have different sets of items that appear in your menu bar so that it's not just full of everything that you've barfed up there over the years. You can control what's there and what's not there and when things appear and when things don't appear. I see these new notched Macs causing increase in sales for the bartender folks, which I think is great. I think it's... Again, I like the fact that they let me... You're looking at it... One way to look at it, I don't want to say how you're looking at it. I'm not inside your head. But one way to look at it is in the negative that they're taking space out of your screen, the other way to look at it is they just let me push my screen up into the bezel further with the notch carved out, obviously, for the thing that the bezel needs to be there for. So I kind of like this. But we'll see how it is in practice. Okay. What other things? Oh, bye-bye touch bar. Yes. Well, and a new keyboard, right? That keyboard sounds like it could be pretty fantastic. It sounds like they are moving in the right direction with keyboards, which is a good thing, I think. So... And some of the other choices that I think were interesting. So more ports. Yeah. Kind of like the MacBook Pros of past. Well, and MagSafe comes back as one of those ports, right? MagSafe 3, yes. Yeah, but you get three Thunderbolt 4 ports and SD card. Think about it. For photographers, man, that's a highly used thing. So to not have to have a dongle when somebody's out in the field. I mean, this... Me buying this machine is... It is way overkill for me, right? I mean, this really is a pro machine. I honestly think that the Air is the right machine for both of us. I think this is also an overkill machine for you. But I get that you want the larger screen, right? Like that part makes sense to me. But having HDMI and SD card in there, I think it's good. And then the three Thunderbolt ports, that's good. One on each side, or at least one on each side, I should say. And then, yeah, MagSafe 3. I didn't think we'd see that come back. I'm glad we did. Yeah, when I saw something on the side with five contacts on it, I'm like, ooh, MagSafe is back. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. I am assuming, but I could be incorrect about this, that it does not therefore also charge over USB, right? But I could be wrong. I think they said you can charge it by the Thunderbolt ports. Oh, OK. All right, I missed that. That's great news if that's the case. OK, it does. Yep. Then we have many people confirming what you just said. Yeah, exactly. Great. OK, well, then that's kind of nice. Yeah, because the ubiquity of USB-C is a great, to me, a great thing. And I'm glad that that is not gone in this. So, yeah, cool. Cool. And what else? Better audio system. I'm very impressed with the audio on my older Intel MacBook. But apparently they brought some stuff over. Three-mic audio array, two tweeters, four kind of woofers, I guess, or four midrange. Yep. Spatial audio. That, I'm curious to experience. I mean, I've experienced it. Everything all right over there. You have a mute button. So people don't have to hear that. I've experienced it with AirPods Pro, but I have not experienced it with a speaker array from a computer. Obviously, I have, you know, like with a soundbar and things like that. So I'm eager to see how well that works. My guess is that it will work fairly well. You know, soundbars do a good job with emulating surround sound, including Atmos, you know, up and down, as long as you're within the right listening range, right? If you're too far away from them, then it all just sounds like sound coming from over there. But, yeah, I, you know, with this, you're right on top of the laptop, so they can tune to that optimal listening space, which I think is pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's got fans in it, but they say they don't have to turn on, so we'll see about that. And they added, what did they say that the, the way they tuned those, I'll call them the bass speakers, they are able to have it actually produce sounds that go down half an octave from where it was, which is pretty impressive. That's a lot to add to the low end of these things. Hopefully it doesn't shake it off the table, John. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything, I think we've covered all the things that jumped out to me at this. What did they mention? I didn't get my notes totally here, but there's a headphone jack, and they mentioned some high fidelity, something or other. Interesting. Let me see if they mention it. Okay. But they seem to be proud of the fact that there was something special about the audio jack. So three and a half millimeter headphone jack with advanced support for high impedance headphones. High impedance headphones. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. So which means it's got more of an amplifier in there than it has in the past. I assume is what they mean by that. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I think that's, yeah. We'll have to see. I'm trying to think if I have any, I don't think I have any high end. Well, some of my in-ear monitors require a pretty juicy headphone amp. So maybe that's what they're talking about there. That I don't know. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm stoked about this. I'm glad to see it moving forward. Yeah. Go ahead. I think you mentioned this, but 8TB SSD? Wow. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't go that far. If you want to pay for it. Yeah. That's right. If you want to pay for it, they'll sell it to you. Yeah. What is the upcharge on that? $2,200. Okay. That's great. That's great. Yeah. By jumping up from 16 gigs of RAM to 32 gigs of RAM, I pushed myself back a week. So I'm not getting mine next week. I'm getting it in November. But yeah, $2,400 increase from the 512 gigs up to the 8TB. If you're going, obviously from the 1TB, you take 200 off of that. So yeah, 2,400 bucks to go up to the 512 gig SSD. That's nice. All right. Two things. I want to talk about the M1 Pro versus the M1X, which there isn't a ton to talk about there, but it is worth the distinctions. But before we do that, the Mac OS Monterey is out $1025. It's what Apple's page on that says now. I had it up here. It doesn't matter. But it is out $1025, which is, I believe, a week from today. So a week from Monday. So it'll be Monday, $1025. That's when Monterey is released. And there is no iMac, obviously. But for those of you that didn't watch the event, I was sad to not yet see the large screen iMac. The studio of all of my computers, the studio is the one that I would love to have on an M1. And I don't yet. So that would, a nice big screen iMac up here would be good. But I don't get that option yet, John. Hopefully soon, right? I don't know. I don't know. It's craziness. But let's talk about the M1 Pro versus the M1X, John. Because there's not as much difference as I would have initially thought, right? Sorry, I'm saying the M1X because I have it written that way in my notes. There is no M1X. It's the M1 Max. So there's the M1 Pro versus the M1 Max. And the nearest I can tell, John, and help me with this if you have more details. But the M1 Pro and M1 Max both sort of max out at that 10-core CPU. But where the M1 Max goes and goes beyond, goes above and beyond, is the GPU, where you get the 16-core neural engine in all of them. And then the M1 Max can go to either a 24-core GPU or a 32-core GPU. And the M1 Max also lifts the ceiling from 32 gigs of RAM to 64 gigs of RAM as a max. Yes. Right? And what else is there between the two CPUs? I know Apple was saying that memory bandwidth on the Max is 400 gigabits per second whereas on the Pro it's 200. Right. Okay. So CPU-wise it's no faster. And their charts showed that too. Those charts were interesting that they were showing. It was, you know, the CPU performance really didn't change because it's the same CPU between the M1 Pro and the M1 Max. But it was the GPU performance where things really kind of kicked up a notch, if you will. And these seem to be about 50% faster on the CPU than the M1 chip. Right? Looking at the chart that they showed in their presentation and they called the M1, they listed that at 100 on their relative performance chart. And the M1 Pro and the M1 Max clock in at 150 on the relative performance chart. So to me, that's 50% faster. So it was nice to see them saying that it was faster than the old one, which is old being a year old. Any more on the M1 Pro versus the M1 Max? I haven't seen a whole lot published about it yet, but I'm sure we'll get more, of course. Yeah, I'm stoked to see it. You know, even the M1, let us not forget that the M1 chip is super fast. And I have yet to hit a performance ceiling on it. There are some things that I do routinely that I see it max out all my cores. Strangely, launching Pixelmator Pro maxes out my cores. Now it only happens for a second or a second and a half or something. But I happen to notice while I'm waiting for Pixelmator Pro to fully launch that my cores are just maxed out, which is a good thing to me. It's like, okay, yeah, let's use them. Yeah, what else? External display support. So the M1 Max supports four external displays. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just looking at their comparison chart here. You want to bring up that comparison chart for us, John? Do you have it on there? Excuse me. Yeah, man. Yeah, okay. So I had caught that the M1 Max supported four. I missed that these. So you said the M1 Pro supports two external displays. Is that right? Mm-hmm. Okay. That's great. So that's one more than the M1 supports, right? Because when we say external displays, we're talking about it from a laptop standpoint on the Mac Mini, of course, it supports two external displays because there is no internal display. But the M1 chip itself supports a maximum of two displays. It sounds like the M1 Pro supports a maximum of three and the M1 Max supports a maximum of five. And so that's huge. I think that was a limiting factor. That was the reason I got my M1 Mini. The guy wanted to trade it for me because he had three external displays that he wanted to use and he didn't like having to do it with display links. So he was like, I don't want to keep it. That's fine. I'm good. I only use two displays. So only use two displays. And the battery life is better. And I guess this MagSafe 3 will do what they call faster charging. Yeah, right. 30 minutes up to 50%. That's really good. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if we get any of that. Do we get any of that fast charge on USB-C? That would be, I don't know. I don't know. All right. We have some apples. There were some music things to talk about too. So we will do that. And of course anything that comes to mind about the, what you call it, anything about the MacBook Pros before we leave. But the next thing I want to do, John, is I want to talk about our sponsor. If that works for you, my friend. Oh, all right. Hold on. Right? I'm losing it here. I know. You want me to hit? Okay. No, no, hold on. 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And our thanks to iMazing for sponsoring this episode. Let's talk while we mention music in the sponsor spot there. Let's talk music, John. Apple has a new music voice plan, which seemed a little weird. It is, it is called the Apple music voice plan and it's 499, right? The weird part about it is you can only access through voice, right? Through Siri. Right? Because that's how it works. It's the Apple music voice plan. And so there are three plans for Apple music now. There's the voice plan at 499 a month. You can throw up my screen for the people watching the video. I've got the TMO stuff again. But the voice plan is 499 a month. And then the individual plan is 999 a month. And that is you get to use Siri, but you also get to use your songs and your playlists and your stations and all of that good stuff. And you get the iCloud music library and all of those things. And then the family plan adds another 5 bucks a month to 1499 and that's up to six people. So the family plan is if you've got more than three people or three people or more, the family plan is absolutely the most economical way to do this. But yeah, I mean, I'm curious. Really, I'm curious who out there this voice plan is for. It's clearly not for me, right? But that doesn't matter. That's okay. So who is it for? Let us know. If you are someone that saw this voice plan and was like, that's what I want. That's all I need. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Yeah, i was, i was like, okay. Yeah, okay, exactly. Yeah, it was a little, I dunno, it was a little wonky. And then they kind of did a … And then we can move on to the HomePod Mini. I don't know if, cause that's a vehicle to use a Siri of course. That's true. voice plan with the HomePod mini. Ah, yeah. Okay. I see where this is going. Yep. All right. They were trying to, I mean, they announced one after the other. So I think they were trying to, you know, bond the two there. I see. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. And the HomePod mini, as far as I can tell, the only changes that you can get it in pretty colors. Correct. Well, the only hardware change is that you can get it in pretty colors, right? But on the software side, they change some things. And I think you're right. They made some enhancements to Siri to make the voice support more interesting, including, I took this as them competing better now with Amazon Music. Amazon Music, in my opinion, hands down has the best curated playlists. Like they have more of them than Apple does and they cover different genres. They do a much better job, in my opinion, with playlists than Apple has. So this whole thing where they were saying, you know, play dinner party or play, you know, whatever, like having more playlist for things like that is a good thing for Apple, for sure. But it does also enhance the value of this Siri plan in the, you know, the Siri only voice plan for Apple Music. But then hardware wise, the software wise, the HomePod gets some more voice based features like the, you know, play everywhere and tell everybody, right, where they did that announcement, where they said, you know, it was like Siri, tell everybody it's time for dinner. And boom, you know, it did an announcement. Well, you could say a lady announced it's time for dinner and it will do that throughout the house. So, you know, this this seemed to be Apple catching up with with Amazon. And and that's fine. I mean, they might they should like with a $99 speaker, they absolutely should try to catch up with with Amazon. But yeah, the new colors, the what is it blue, yellow and pumpkin or something, I forget what they're calling it. I don't have the names of the colors. Sorry, yellow, orange and blue. All right, so it is they're just calling it orange. But yeah, it's they led they led with the pumpkin. Oh, funny. Where have I seen those colors? Where have you seen those colors before, John? Well, I actually just put one up in my house here. But you remember the old Apple logo, seven color, I think, right? So I don't think orange is one of them. Yeah, actually, you're right. Orange that that must be for Halloween. Orange, white and black were not in the original Apple logo. But blue and blue and yellow were I mean, it was the colors of the rainbow and white. No, not really. OK, never mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. I mean, the colors of that word were just the rainbow. So yeah, the the the AirPods, the new third gen AirPods, those seemed those interest me. I'm I'm really curious about these because I I love I've been impressed with my AirPods Pro once I especially got the right tips for them. But I don't like using them for phone calls nearly as much as I like using my OG AirPods. And the reason is that the AirPods Pro seal in my ear. I don't like using anything that seals in my ear for phone calls because I'm used to hearing my voice out loud. And yes, if I turn on transparency mode with the AirPods Pro, I get some amount of my voice sort of, you know, pumped back in kind of like what we do with the podcast when we record here. So it's OK. But I, you know, when I'm talking on the phone, I'm used to hearing my voice. And the OG AirPods sit in my ear nicely. They work really well. They're the ones that I leave at my desk. But the batteries on those are, you know, dying quite a bit. So I was curious to see these third gen AirPods. And I did order a set of them. I like this. So they don't we have a there's a chart that Apple has. And I want to pull up to to make sure I'm doing all this right. But the the third gen AirPods add spatial audio, which I which I think is great. They do not have noise cancellation or transparency mode, nor could they because they don't seal in your ear. So it would be super difficult to, you know, try and mitigate for external sounds when you're not sealing them out with with hardware, essentially, right? So so bear that in mind. That's I would think that's probably the biggest difference for most people between AirPods third gen and AirPods Pro is that, you know, you don't get noise cancellation because they don't seal it out. You do get that. But the battery life on them, they say is, you know, six hours, we'll see where that goes and all of that over, you know, over this new for sensor control. It is new. Yeah. Okay. So it's like a touch sensor, I guess. Yeah. I mean, they've had a touch sensor on the on the AirPods in the past. This one, I think you're right. Yeah, there's something new about the way that it it works. Well, the older ones, wasn't it more or less a button? Whereas this is like a pressure sensor, I guess. I guess I there is no button on the OG AirPods. You just tap it. But yeah, this this one, this is the this is the same one that's in the AirPods Pro is now in the end. So essentially, they took the AirPods Pro and made a non seal in your ear version of it. And that's what these third gen AirPods are, which is cool. You know, it's fine. Yeah. If you if you look on Apple's AirPods comparison screen, they've they've got the force sensor allows you to, you know, press and hold to do things with Siri. And it's a little more, it's got it can sense more granularly so you can do more things with it just like you can with the AirPods Pro. So I think that's a like, I'm glad that they're doing that. Because I know a lot of people did not like the AirPods Pro for exactly the reason that the AirPods Pro can be the AirPods Pro because they seal in your ear and all that good stuff. So yeah. Yeah, I know. It's interesting. So hopefully that we had we actually had that question in the chat room as we were setting up the show from Barry. So hopefully that hopefully that answers your question, Barry. What else do we have, John? Do we have anything else? Or is that cover it, man? Let's see. New AirPods, new chips. Yeah. I think yeah. New MacBook Pro. Yeah. You know, the only thing is, yeah, like you, I'm surprised that they didn't introduce a better iMac. That was good. I mean, I know they're going to do it eventually. Oh, yeah. So my question is, do they be like an iMac Pro maybe? Yeah. I mean, well, it could be, but it doesn't, you know, the thing about the, they don't have an M1 version of the 27 inch iMac, right? Like they've got the smaller one, which great because that's the M1 and sorry, I should say they don't have an Apple Silicon version of the 27 inch iMac. And I'm not sure that should be an iMac Pro, right? Like because based on where the previous iMac Pro is, this wouldn't be it, right? So I don't, I mean, I don't know what they'll call it, but it's definitely got to be coming. And so my question is, is it something where they wait until say the spring and have an event for it? Or in three weeks, does it just appear on some Tuesday morning via press release? And it's like, here it is. It's got the, you know, M1 Pro and the M1 Max and you can mix and mix and match between them depending on how much money you want to spend. And it's got a glorious new, you know, 30 inch screen have at it. Like, you know, do they do that? They've done that in the past. So does there need to be an event about it is the question. And I'm, I'm hoping no, because I'd like to see it before the end of the year. I don't know. That's my thoughts. Hey, we have anything else or are we done? Um, I think we're done. I think we're done. I think it's time to bring the band in. Fun. Lots of stuff. What the hell is there stuck? Oh, yeah, that's right. This happened during the, uh, uh, it's up about a percent. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good. That's better than it going down. So, you know, hey, up is up. If it went up a percent a day, that'd be amazing. And there have been times when it has. So that's good. All right. Thanks for listening, folks. Thanks for hanging out. Make sure to check out. I'm amazing. It's amazing.com. And yes, like I said at the beginning of the episode, the coupon code for 30% is amazing. M one X. We know that that was the commonly used, but not Apple used name for these new chips. So, but that is their code. I'm using M one X and that will get your 30% off. So make sure to go use that good stuff. Uh, I don't know. Yeah. You got anything else John? Or is it time? I think it's time. It's time. Thanks for hanging out with us, folks. Yet again, nice short little short and sweet episode after a short and sweet Apple event. I like it. The day moves forward. Thanks for hanging out. It's kind of nice to do a 30, well, 40 minute Mackie Cub. I wonder, is this the right length for Mackie Cub? Only you can tell us feedback at Mackie Cub. 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