 Yeah, it's about to go down man. Check it man. Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique house issue boy. E CEO and I'm here with the lovely official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Say man, it's going down man. We have a special guest in the house man. She don't need no introduction. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. She been rolling all through. I be seeing always on the internet, you know, I'm nosy. So I'm watching all the talent that come through man. Say man, check it man. Me, Shawn is in the building. What's up sweetheart? What's up? Man, we hear a man. We hear a man. Yeah, you made it man. Boss talk one-to-one. You know what I'm saying man. So what's going on with you? I mean, hey, how's this whole movement? How is it for you? Everything's been a blessing. I'm like that. You know what I'm saying? You know, I just got signed to heavy hitters, you know what I'm saying? Check it man. Heavy hitters. Y'all got a new one. We finna turn up. I dropped a tape called Big Mish. So y'all gonna be, you know, turn up to that almost summer, resty life. Yeah. So what I'm being, let's go all the way back. You know, I don't never like to start off too far into it. I want to go back to, who is Michelle? You know, I got back before the music. Back before the music. Can you remember that far back? I was really trying to go to school. Okay. It's crazy because I wasn't even trying to be a rapper. You what? No, I was trying to be a model. I was trying to be a man the next time I model all that. Okay. You can do it. You're a beautiful girl. Thank you. I was trying to, but sometimes you know how you got that thing in the back of your head? Like nah, this ain't it. Not even in your head, like in your heart. You know, like this is not really it. You know, I was confused. I had just graduated. Stuff was going on. I felt like, you know, I'm getting a lot of likes on Instagram. I need to be a model, you know? Right. But my daddy hang with the jail. Free Kris G. That's my name. What's his name again? Kris G. Kris G. Still locked up? Yeah. Say, man. Do you be writing him? Not really. Can we be talking on the phone? Can you can you give me his address? I'm going to write him. Yeah, I'll be writing. It ain't weird. I do it. No, it's cool. Yeah, I'll be writing a lot of people like because I've been through a lot. So I want to just send some words of encouragement. Oh yeah. And then I get to say, yeah, I interviewed your daughter, man. She dope. She out here doing her thing. You know, that may, that'll make somebody smile. That's what it's all about, right? He used to rap, too. So what? Yeah, that's where I get it from. Your manager used to rap. Your daddy used to rap. There's a bunch of rappers around. You know, it's in the blood. So, you know, how old were you when you decided up to rap? I think I was like 18. I think I was like 18. I've been rapping since I was like third grade. You know, I used to write my daddy. I would let go to the studio with him. But when he got locked up, I was already writing. Like, sometimes I like, you know, how you do like the little rap videos on Instagram and stuff. I was doing that. And sometimes it'll go viral, stuff like that. But I never wanted to take it serious until he got locked up. I felt like we had like a connection, you know? And so it just went through the music. It was a connection. Yeah. Being from Eastwood, Fort Worth, do you, I mean, was it tough? Or was it, I mean, was it, did y'all have a lot? Or was it something to where the struggle hit you? I mean, what's up? Honestly, was you spoiled? Yes, a little prince is like whatever I wanted. I got a little girl. Yeah. But how many siblings? Uh, I got three little sisters. Oh, so you was older? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Are they proud of you? Yeah. No, my babies. They should be, man. It's a blessing, man. I mean, so, so when we, when we looked at you and I started to look at your music, it definitely resonated well. You know, I like the way that you, you, the way that you rhyme, the way that you come off your cadence is just right. I've been checking it out, you know, we're gonna get into a lot of it. And the thing I can say is, um, you are a, uh, you, you, you're definitely a breath of fresh air for what you do. You know what I mean? Thank you. Um, and you weren't naked on everything, popping your booty. Yeah, I ain't gonna say that that worked for me. You know, I'm married now, but you know, a lot of people that the lyrics, I think, and it's just my opinion. I don't want to sound old, but I just feel like a lot of times the lyrics are so much more powerful than the girls are given credit for. And so when I looked at yours, yours really had a story to it, something that, that there was essence to it. And I think that's important, don't you? Yeah, I do. Because sometimes I feel like we forget to tell a story in the song. You know what I'm saying? We all over the place. Don't get me wrong. I feel like some of my songs, I'm kind of like just talking my stuff, you know, but, uh, I got some music where I got some songs where I tell a story like what I've been through. You know what I'm saying? Because it's cool to talk about, you know, how sex you are and how cute you are, all that. That's cool. But I mean, like, tell everybody your story or, you know, like, let them feel something. And I just got to feel like, okay, I'm gonna ask this nigga for some money. You know, I just got to feel like that you can be like, I'm gonna go get my myself. You can have some song like that. You know, so I try to like, you know, be versatile about it. I think that's, I think that's the way to go. I mean, you when you really look at it and you look at what, you know what, you have to find that way to be different way to where you're not looking like everybody else, right? You know what I'm saying? And I think a lot of times people look alike out here. When I look at female rappers, they look alike. When I look at different male rappers, they look alike. And you just hear a lot of the same stuff. You know what I mean? So that side out to you for trying to pave your way. Yeah, yeah, side out to you, man, because when you did that, sorry, but when you did that, you looked at what was out here and decided on who you need to be, or this is just you naturally. This is me. You know what I'm saying? It's a blessing and I could kind of stand out. You know what I'm saying? And it was hard. It was so hard. I used to cry because I'd be like, you know what, I'm doing this all by myself. I feel like nobody looking at me. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like I just needed a team behind me to push me because I was doing it all by myself. And that's when I got blessed with heavy hitters. And now I'm able to just, just go my full, you know what I'm saying? Because I have like motivation. I got like, you know, you have a lot of girls out there. And if you had to advise a girl who feel like she has to be sexy, she has to show all of this. She has to do this to be seen. How could you advise her to let her know that? No, you know, what does she have to do? I would be like, girl, now if that's you, you feel like that's just you, you want to do that as that's you, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to be that person. I'm like, don't do that, don't do that, you know, but I honestly feel like you don't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's a way to do certain stuff. It's a time and a place. Correct. I think it's the lyrics. You're a song writer, so it's really what the call, what the song called for. Yeah. Every song that you write, if that's what it called for, you stuck in a place. And I can say this, that you have to have balance. You know, I think that there's a way to do anything and have taste to it. It can be tasteful. But then you also have to basically be able to do other things as well. You can't just do the same thing, right? Right. Because like, I got hard songs, you don't want to have a hard song. You talk about this, this, and you shaking your, you know what I'm saying? But, but you know, if you got a sexy song, where it do cost me, okay, cool. Let's get it, let's get it. But you gotta do that all the time. Every time. And I think that, I think that happens a lot. I think girls get stuck because they think that's what, you know, different management teams too, and different people that they sign to. I mean, because when I look at Megan and I look at the way she does it, and it's tasteful. Even though she does it, yeah, but the lyrics are so dope. Yeah. And she can afford to do it so she can balance it out. But I think that's something that, that right there is a, I think that's a, that's a gift within itself. Everybody can't do that. I love me some Megan. But am I right? Yeah, you're definitely right. And the same thing. I think they got good people around them that's showing them, okay, you do this. But at the end of the day, you know, we got a choreographed, everything right. We ain't for to be out here looking no any kind of way. You don't want to look amiss. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like if you, if you're going to show the body, you got to do it in a professional way. You know what I'm saying? I don't know ratchet stuff. You know, it's cool to be ratchet, but it's the way you go about it. You know what I mean? You don't want to look trashy. Like they don't look trashy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've seen a couple of the, the, the, the video. Like I said, a lot of times, you know, I'm just looking at yours and I might amiss something, but a lot of times it's been you kind of so low or with some guy or some kind of way, you know, writing a story to what you're doing. Right. And I don't think that I've seen you just where you just straight up just dancing with a group of girls yet. Is that am I right? Yeah, that's right. I'm watching everything because I want to make sure that I ain't nailing it wrong, but, but it's probably going to happen. Like in my videos, it's one, it's called bounce. Okay. It's full of girls. But I mean, are they dancing together in on point or is it just something where y'all just hanging out? Kind of just hanging out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I'm just saying, you know, like you got, you got room for growth. And you know, already, you know, that's a good thing. Yeah. Cause you're going to hit those levels where you're going to have to call the dancers in. And yeah, they're going to have to get ready for that budget. And we could do it this way. And it's all about what you wrote. You know what I mean? And actually, I love dancing. I used to. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to that happen to where I can, you know, do something. Did you have management before you have this current management team? I was in sign. No, but it was more so it was just like, you know, I'm going to help you out. You know what I'm saying? It was like that. But before that, I didn't sign with nobody, none of that. Okay. And I was still doing everything by myself. No, no, no shade. Right. But I was, you know, I'm big on just look, if you ain't going to do it, I'll do it myself. So how did you meet your new management team? Actually, DJ Ice sat out to him. DJ Ice, yeah. And he's a DJ, of course. Yeah, I met him. Yeah. He's supposed to be coming on the show. Yeah, that's my brother right there. Yeah. But I met DJ Ice, like maybe like a year ago or something like that. I had like a gig and he was there. And we were just cool ever since. And he always told me he said, when I get on, I'm gonna put you on. So I hit him up. He had been kind of seeing like I needed management and stuff like that. And I just asked him one day, like, you know, like, I'm looking for management. He was like, I got you. I'm signed to, you know, heavy hitters. He was like, just hit him up, send him some music and stuff. So I was quick with it. I hit up low Dizzy. I think I hit up Cartool. I think I hit up Cartool. But I had DM'd him like my shows. I'm like, look, I do this. I get to jump in. You know what I'm saying? I had send him some songs and it was messing with itself. I like it. How soon after you send it to them, did they return that call? Well, like a week or two. Oh, they gonna act like that? What happened? Well, it probably went even that long, but he'll busy me and hear me so. Look, I was all the day he even respond even seen me. I was like, oh, look at God, you know what I'm saying? That's good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been saying really Ziggy had was already sending me beats. OK. Mind you, Ziggy is young. OK. I thought he was just, you know, some little boy just messing in my day. Talk about some beats. And so but he sent me one beat. It's I got a song called Karma. OK. Be hard. He's so talented. Oh, yeah. Don't be been on the show, too. Yes. And so out to Ziggy, man. Ziggy made it. He was trying to send me some beats in a little dizzy. Actually did me on accident. I forgot what he said, but he did me on accident. He was like, let's see. And I was like, huh? I was so confused. That's a small world. I just feel like it. Like everything happened for a reason. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like that was just all God like that was meant to be, you know, yeah, like I feel like it's like family. They give me family vibes. I like it, man. So just, hey, man, ride the wave, man. I ain't going to lie, man. It's dope that you got a family, man. A lot of people never find that family. So I was going to ask you, I mean, being from Fort Worth, did you what you could end it up with top off? You think so? Yeah, they was they from Fort Worth, half prime, Fort Worth. See, under them. So so that that could have happened, but it didn't. I'm just saying I'm just thinking about it because I had people on the show. Yeah, they definitely popping that stuff. I know, I know a few of them on top off. I play that would have been it. Yeah, but God has a way of working it out. It's in his time and in his way. You know what I'm saying? And he don't do nothing and make mistakes like us. He basically got it popping for you. Yeah, I'm just thankful everything worked out the way it did because I feel like I made the right decision. They made the right decision. Like we feel family. Yeah, it's a lot of talent coming from over there. Yeah, it is. So you say you have younger sisters or any of your younger sisters doing music or one of the music. No, no, of course, they didn't like I can rap, you know, they do stuff like that. But they don't want to rap. You know, well, you don't know. Yeah, you might be surprised. They got to put their work in. I wouldn't be surprised. They got the attitude. They got all this because you might motivate them. Yeah, they do big sister. Yeah, and they see and you hit that stage, man. And it got to be something because everybody don't have that. I love the stage. I see. Yeah, I see that stuff. That's my favorite thing. Like I can't stand y'all. All y'all do is pull stuff down off Instagram. I won't let a nigga see it long ass. If I can't stand y'all, man. I don't like young folk. I don't like them. I don't like young folk. Why do people do that? Why are they doing a generation doing it? You're young. So yeah, why are they doing that? Why do they go ahead and they delete all their old stuff or hide it and then just have just a few thousand followers? They want to nigga to anticipate the way that's what it is. So while I do it because even right now I don't have nothing on my page. I saw you have four posts. Yeah, only because it's crazy. I just didn't like what today for yesterday and maybe something like that. But I did it because I wanted to start over. Like if you see all my old stuff, I feel like that was like the old me showing me coming up. I love the old me shown because that's why I'm here today, you know. But I feel like I progress, you know. So me dropping my tape, I feel like this is what I want y'all to see. And because everybody look at me like oh shit, Instagram model. They not taking me serious as a rapper. So let me go ahead. You know, I got to extend out. I hate to do it. No, no, no, I didn't. But let me start over, you know, and I got my heart break song on there. That's my song. So yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to get into that. Yeah. So I just, you know, I just want to start over. Give something something new. OK, but like my advice to that or my opinion would be sometimes people like to know where you're coming from. Right. To see where you are and not just to see this person, this new person. So like for me, I'll put a block of white and say new beginnings or whatever. So they know that. OK, this is all me. Yeah, that's OK. I got some of them. You understand what I mean? So you don't want to throw away the new you want them to see, especially young girls who are watching you. Right. They're looking at you like, oh, she already got there. They're not seeing the process and how long people can go back on your Instagram and say, oh, she started doing this in 2000. Oh, that's a long time. Oh, she been grinding. Yeah, like she been doing this. Right. But if you hide and all of that, they can't see your story. Right. Yeah. But she want to change her story, too. But the thing I could, I would say to add to that. OK, go ahead. I would say make a fan page and keep stuff going to where you can have your fans being tuned with what you're doing in the changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Instagram page. You kind of want people to see where you are right now. Where are you going? Correct. And so you could do a fan page still, right? And then make it to where you could send them there if you want. But over here is, you know, you get to see what's going on with me now. See, that makes it. I mean, I just hate to have it on my page because, like, it is hard when, like, I don't know how to explain it. It's hard for them to catch on to what I'm doing because they're like, oh, she's just too pretty and she this and that. You know, like, I don't know how to explain it. I just feel like. They're still going to look at your beauty regardless, no matter what you're doing. You don't, my dude. You don't. Thank you. Yeah, you keep getting it in, putting it in Niggas' faces. These niggas need to know, you know. Let's get into the music just a little bit, man. So big old freak freestyle back in 2019. That was dope, man. We'll have with that, man. That is dope. That's so crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, originally it was supposed to just be for, like, Instagram, you know. But then I was like, that ain't it's too hard. I know the video. I liked it actually. So, you know, I just, you know, I love me some Megan. Yeah. So I just feel like it was right. Let me go ahead and, you know, put some respect on me. You know, let me go ahead and pop my. Oh, man. Went hard though. Went hard. That was crazy, yeah. I liked it. That was one. What about rude? Rude, that's crazy because when I wrote that song. So that was back. Now you got a remake or something? Yeah, I had remade that song. I had made that song. What year is it, 2021? No, that was in 2019. Let me see, let me look, let me look. Let me see that I put it down because you know me, I'll be back. At what? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking because I had re-recorded it. Yeah, no, no, no. It was a while back to be honest with you. Yeah, it had to be 2019. I wrote it in LA. Okay, you did right in LA? I was feeling a little way, you know, when you mad at somebody or whatever, or you feel like somebody's playing on your top. I was like, all right, so that's what I wrote it in LA. Oh, really? And you say you re-did it? I just re-did it on another beat. It was okay. Okay, that's gonna be dope. Ziggy made it be. Ziggy made it be, yeah, let's get it right. Ziggy always made it be, yeah. Let's get it right. Because I always wonder, because some people actually take their old songs sometimes. I'm sure if it didn't get the numbers that it should have come and redo it and make it new to the modern stage right now. I actually did that with Bennett. But what exactly does it take? You have tons of songs before, why that song? Why Rue? Why Bennett, like the one that you say you need. Oh, Bennett, why do I do it to Bennett? I don't know, like... So what makes you pick a certain song to redo? It just really just depends, like I might have writer's block, and I'm like, let me go through my notes and see what I got in here. Let me see what I can pick from. It just be something simple like they don't be like, oh, I wanted to put for this song. It don't really be like that. So do you think that, I look at the elevation of what you've done and your body of work, you know what I mean? Coming from the first song, Bitt, won a whole lot of money. You know what I'm saying? When you look at it from that perspective to where you are now, you see the growth in your whole career. You know what I mean? Yeah, mama, it's funny because we laugh at that song. What's crazy is that that song, The Course, I didn't write the hook. I wrote the verse. This boy came into IK Studio, I heard of IK Studios, right? I used to just chill up there every day, just chilling. And this dude came in there like, you know, introducing himself and stuff like that. He sucked, I forgot his name. I think it started with artist sucks, I forgot. But yeah, he came in there introducing himself. It's not until the nigga that starts with an artist. Oh yes, I do. Shout out to you. Got him. But he came in there trying to introduce himself and... You smiled at him. No, I was just like, you know, my name is Shona, whatever. And Wes was like, no, he asked me what I'd do. I said, I model. Wes said, nah, she a rapper. Wes Visual, shout out to him. Wes Visual. But yeah, he was like, nah, she a rapper. I'm like, nah. I ain't no damn rapper. And so he like, you got some now. Now you test me, you know what I'm saying? So he like, he's like, nah, you ain't let me hear something. Let me hear something. He was like, matter of fact, I got a hook for you. You put your verse on there. So he did the hooking up, put my verse on there, killed it. And then... That's where I came out. Yeah, that was it. And that's dope. I like the way that, I like that. Yeah, it was crazy, but it just went. It was my first song ever and that's when I recorded it. Like maybe like two days later or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I posted it and people was messing with it. Man, we going down through there. I told you we were gonna ride. And me, Shona, is your government name? My middle name. It's your middle name. It's dope. It's dope. I like my name. That's a beautiful name. Thank you. Do a lot of people tell you that you look like you're mixed with Asian? All the time. Even this Asian dude came up to me talking about that. I was like, what? You didn't even try to get in me, Shona. No, Lord. Nah, he don't want somebody to leave me. I'm crazy. Let me talk about that, the song Nasty You Did in 2019. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. I was in bed and I was just listening to meets on YouTube. And I was just, I don't know, I was just feeling the way, like, okay, like, I just, I don't know. Sometimes I freestyle before I actually write it. And this was before this was when you were doing it all on your own, right? Yup. All by myself. How did I miss that? I should have been on that. I would, I feel like I wouldn't promote myself a lot. Maybe if I promote myself like I was. No, no, no. I would, I'd be trying, I'd be trying to look for people like you. Yeah. That ain't promoting they self a lot so I couldn't catch them early. Okay. Yeah. But y'all were just chilling in bed in my room and just chilling and I just, I don't know, just feeling the beat. I'm like, oh, she nasty. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you went on with it. Yup, not just. How long does it take you to write a song? It depends on if I'm feeling the beat. If I'm feeling that beat like crazy, I finish it and maybe like hour or two. But if I'm kinda like, I don't know and I gotta think, it depends. What's the longest song? What's the longest time you've ever took to write a song? Like a week. I just couldn't think of nothing. I'm like, you know what? I gotta take a break. Let me come back. It'd be like that. I can see that. I can see that. Especially like, I got all the time in the world now. But at first I was busy, like crazy busy. Like I'm busy like with music, but I'm talking about like even outside of music, I was like, you know, personal stuff. So it'll take, it depends. So let me ask you this. You love doing the music. You're always focused. And you think that you can take it all away? Yeah. Are you nervous? No. A lot of girls, a lot of competition in this thing. And there's a lot of girls just out here just really, you know, talking, they talking. I can name them cause they come on this show now. I wouldn't have been able to do that before, but I see the aggressiveness of all of them and how they feel like they next. Everybody say they next. What make me shine different from those girls? I feel like, you know, I'm not trying to put no salt on nobody, you know. I feel like all the girls is doing they thing. And I, you know, I support all that. I just feel like I was made for it. I was built for it. It's in my blood. I feel like God, God, God, I feel like God promised me. I already know you. You know what I'm saying? I pray every day and he didn't show me so much. That's deep. You know what I'm saying? I feel like he didn't show me so much. I feel like he know that I deserve it. And I feel like he want me to have something like that. I'm God's child. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm one of God's favorite. That's how I feel. And I'm gonna keep, I'm gonna make sure I don't feel him. That's how I feel. If I don't feel him, I'm gonna make it. Your life is predestined. So it's already written. Thank you. That's how I feel. Well, you know, and if not, you can hit him with some of that on-site energy. Do it. Woo! That song, I was mad too. I mean, I'm here with you, girl. So what was up with on-site, man? Cause let me tell you some things. You said, I don't even do no talking. I believe in an on-site. What is that? What do you say? I ain't trying to talk. I'm trying to fight. You know what I'm saying? Back then, you was getting to it. I'm not saying I'm just this big fighter. You know what I'm saying? I feel like, oh, I can be her. I can do this. I can do this. Now, I'm gonna get out there. And I feel like if you disrespect me, I'm gonna have to let you know, look. Yeah. You can handle yourself. Chill out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I don't wanna just seem like, oh, I'm just this trouble maker. Yeah, yeah. But it's definitely being times where I had to tell girls, look, where you at? Where you at with her? Where you at? And sometimes I didn't call myself, where I feel like, okay, we doing too much sub between. We doing too much. I'm trying to pull up. Oh, really? I'm saying. Sometimes some girls just look at you and start arguing with you. Because you know some people, and I don't think they're still doing this today, but I remember girls used to always do that. They just look at you because you're pretty and be like, don't like you, start mess. I get that a lot. And it's crazy because I get that more so from the pretty girls. Yeah. So I'm like, dang girl, you're pretty. I'm pretty. What's up? Like, why you guys are like that? I just feel like that's crazy. You got a problem within yourself. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Because I'm very genuine. Yeah, I'm very genuine. I'm very loving, open, armed. You know, so I feel like if you got a problem with me, it's because you just messed up in the mind. As much as, and people don't realize, as much as we see a lot of people who look pretty, they don't even think they're pretty. Yeah, that'd be the problem. That's why I'm like they got a problem within themselves. It'd be crazy. It'd be sad because sometimes it, I don't know, it'd be people within your circle, all that like, it'd be crazy, but I don't even like. Don't even trip. Don't even trip. Don't let them know, don't play with me. Go know about your business. You gotta be careful. You gotta watch everybody. Yeah, that's how I try to pray. God, please keep my love ones around me. The ones that's genuine ones, you know. So, he been doing that so. Late night, it's a sample of Between the Sheets, that's in that song. And a lot of the songs today, when you look, a lot of the bangles, a lot of the big songs that come out is some sampling going on. Yeah. What made you do that song like that? It's crazy. I think his name is Marty. Marty sent me that beat on Twitter. And shout out to him. That was a while back. Yeah. I told him I wanted some sample beats. Like I love me some sample beats. I bounced his actual sample beat too. Okay, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I just felt like I want to switch it up. I want to make a lovey-dovey song. I'm an old school nigga. When I said, when I heard it Between the Sheets was in my mind, but I heard what you were saying and it was dope. And the delivery was on point. Thank you. You know what I mean? And that's something that the people really, they really, they gravitate back to that. You know, I'm an old cat that I know I've seen them do it before and it's just coming back around again. So it's a good feel to hear the songs coming back and they sampling them and they making them hit right and making them fit in today's. Them be my favorite songs too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gives you a certain deal where you, you know, yeah, where you feel like, okay, I'm gonna get that, I'm gonna get that out of the brother and play with it. You know what I'm saying? Who else sampled that song? Ziggy, I mean, who else sampled that low D's that Between the Sheets? It's been a few of them. Biggie. Was it Biggie? Oh yeah, Biggie did. Was it Biggie? Yeah, yeah. That's really what motivated me to do that song. That's right, that's right. When I heard that song, that's what I thought about. Yeah, cause I said, I said a part like that. I love it when he come. It was something like that. Yeah, you did. Yeah, I just liked them samples, man. They coming back. I love it. So I'm telling you, it's just coming right back around. So yeah, yeah, I'll be paying very close attention to those songs with those great beats and I will be trying to play with them a little bit cause it's gonna pop. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's crazy cause I love like old school music. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, man. I love stuff like that. What's your favorite old school music? Ooh, I'm an R&B type of girl. So what's your favorite song? Let me think. I like, it's WV Weep. Don't give me such things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my life. I just wanted to say, I can't explain why your love, it makes me weak. Yeah. Ooh, I get so weak in a new year. I know what y'all doing, boy. So yeah, man. So I know you gonna drop us a little something today. You know what I'm saying? Game face song, you know what I'm saying? You gotta let me bring it in though. I gotta feel it first. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? All right. Check it, man. Me showing in the building. Say, man, it's going down, man. Yeah, man. Let's get it, man. I'll let you boys a unique hustle. Boss talk one-on-one. Uh. Bitches be mad, I'm on top. Making a mouth, they niggas on lock. Thought that you had them, but bitch, I'm the plot. Get your two Macs, I ain't got time for the weak shit. If you got a problem, no, I'll leave shit. Bitch, I been hard like them C-men. Yeah, I'm a sweet, but a D-man. Fuckin' with me, then I come with your net. D-bitches be mad, cause I ain't normal, man. Bitches be mad, cause I ain't normal, bitch. Bitches be mad, I got them in a chest. D-bitches know that I been on my shit. D-bitches know that I am that bitch. And this is the girl I got to ask you and kiss. I don't even trick, cause she know what it is. Check it, man. Check it, man, just like that, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Me, Sean, in the building, man. How let you boys a unique hustle? With all that attitude and everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, I love that, man. You, hey, man, I felt that, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That was it right there, man. So, check it, man. And you know, what's the process, man? I mean, how do you come up with what you going with? When you writing, do you have to be in a dark room? Do you have to be in a room where the TV ain't on? Or how do you process the music when you writing it? Well, first, I got some food in my system. Oh, you got some food? Give me some wings. I would have thought of everything, but the girl said she got to have some food. Look, if I got some wings, I'll just play with Nobby for real. If I got some food in my system, I got energy. You know what I'm saying? But really, I really got to be in a quiet place. I ain't gonna lie for the most probably in the restroom. Like when I got out of the shower, I thought I just got done singing a list of music. I'm like, okay, you know, I feel fresh. You know, I just got done eating. Let me write something in the restroom. Or I'll be doing my hair just freestyle. I'm like, ooh, let me put this on. Oh, yeah, that's what it be. Yeah, or sometimes when I'm just chilling, I just got done watching TV, I write. You know, you got to be chill. I got to be in chill mode, writing mode, like that. One thing I always want to know, because I know when you're a seasoned artist, right? And you perform your songs all the time. You tend to always remember them. And being a new artist and you writing multiple songs back to back to back. How hard it is to remember. How hard it is, yeah, how hard is it to remember? I've never forgot on stage. What? For real? You be like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm not even trying to tell my own horror, but I feel like I was made to perform. So like, I always just, that nobody ain't gonna notice it because I know how to just, I almost felt of the day. Uh-oh, Beyonce fail. Just I was about to say, just I was about to hold down stage. And she got up like, it was nothing. You working? It was actually a Yellow Beezy, a Yellow Beezy and Jose de Bodega show. It was like in, where was it? Man, you fought, that's a lot of people, my dude. You pretty just fall. No, it was out of town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. When you slept, you caught yourself. I was, I had some big boots on. Yeah. And so, you know, I squat down, trying to twerk, and I'm talking about, oh. But luckily, I don't think nobody seen if they did, they didn't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I'm a pro, look. Man, made it look good even when it was bad. I was so mad when I got off the home, like, did y'all see that? We do got on video, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I wish I had called it out to put it up as a bloop. Look, look at your ceiling. No, I wouldn't do that. Right? So, I wanna talk about the soda. There's something that's dropping at midnight tonight with Big Mesh. Big Mesh. Big Mesh in the building. You know, turn on, I know Lil Mesh now. Big Mesh. Big Mesh, yeah. I like that, I like that. How'd you come up with, you just say, I'm gonna cut this off it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was just, we was looking for names. Because people been talking about Big Mesh coming out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they cut the time back, so yeah. It's gonna be late, you know. When is he coming out? I don't know, they don't know. They just give us a little tease so he might be home, you know. But shout out to them cats. I think one of the brothers got out, too. We all subject right now, but yeah, yeah. So what, so heartbreak, man, you know, that's the one I've been seeing. That's the latest and the greatest right there. Oh, I looked at that video, girl. I looked at it, I liked it. I'm like, this girl's got some acting skills. No, not only acting. No, I might be on a big screen one day, you know. There's a lot of people who try to give you that heartbreak-felt music and they try to give you that quiesha-cold moment, but they can't. Yeah. And I think you nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Thank you, yeah. Because I could see that in your spirit that I really, I believed you. And that's when it's good. I believed you. It's my story. Yeah, so this was real. Oh, yeah. So you with the nigga for six years? Mm. Look at her. Ain't no sign of you with this nigga for six years. That nigga fighting on you? Oh, no, hold on. Did you put that one? She's like, oh, I'm just looking at her. Oh, I'm just looking at her. There's some tugging going on now. Okay, I'm looking at the lyrics, man. It wasn't crazy. You put the nigga out there bad like the nigga would try and put them hands on you for- No, he ain't crazy, but... It wasn't tugging and stuff, it wasn't tugging and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you wrote a song about him, did he ever contact you about it after that? No. He can't even contact me. What was it like working with Twan visuals? I loved it. That's my dog. Like he's so genuine. Shout out to Twan. Shout out to you, Twan. Yeah, he's been on the show. Yeah, he always come through for me, always. Like that's my dog. I love the way he works. Yeah. Yeah, he dope. I'm telling you, he's dope. He's dope. I love my wife. He dope. Oh, really? Look at it. She's like, stop filming me. Exactly, that's exactly what she's doing. That's what men do, they test them. You say, I ain't elfin with no nigga that just love to fight. That's what you say. Yeah. That's why I come out, that argue you was talking about. Yes, it's not just always physical, but- It's mental as well. Yeah, it's like just wake up, mad, just wanna start stuff for me. That's what I went through. Yeah, I've been through that too. Yeah. Not with you. It's draining. Yeah, with you. Like he just didn't wanna see me happy, I felt, you know. It says, the only thing you disrespect me calling me your elfin wife, the one thing you gotta offer is the fucking pipe. You can't do nothing but lay down. That's it. Like, I don't need you. That's all you can do. You know how many dudes could I do that? Man, man, you know it's hard to be in a relationship in the industry anyway. Yeah. Real talk. But if you wanna be with that person, you're gonna get it done, you know? That's how I see it. You say my mama told me not to never sell. Yeah. Is that true? My mama always speak the truth and she feel like, of course, she got all girls, it's all girls. So of course she feel like don't, you ain't gotta settle for nothing. She didn't see me. You know how your mama, she really don't wanna tell you, like, leave that nigga alone, you know? She just gonna, like, deserve better, you know? Yeah, she jumped in the pink joggle and she left. She had a zebra luggage and she come up out that thing and she was leaving that nigga and she got in the car and start rapping or singing on the damn, she was hurt. And I believed you. Yeah. I believed you. That's the whole game. Like, I believed you. That's what I want you to do. Because you know how many people, nah, I don't wanna just say about girls, you know? Cause boys go through it too. They got that girl that just nagging, they, probably cheating. A mentally abusive. There's some girls out there who are mentally abusive. Yeah, so I just feel like that's for anybody. Like, when I posted on my page, I was like, look, if you going through this, like, this sign, go ahead and go and batch up it. So you think, so do you think that's something that we can get anytime you come out with a project? You gotta give us one like that every time. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm gonna speak that real, yeah. I mean, cause that help people. And that's why, that's really why I put it out there. Cause I didn't wanna make it, make it seem like I was dissing who I was, who I used to be with, you know what I'm saying? It was a subliminal, it was a subliminal. How long ago was this? Two weeks ago. Yeah. No. No. I love, I love, like, last year. Like, beginning of last year. Shout out to that nigga, you lost her. Have you given up on her? Or you moved on already? My being that, I like that. No, she single, guys. Yeah, she single. Yeah, I don't care if that nigga get mad. Oh my God. She single, yeah. No, the thing, we gonna mess with y'all here. No. So, the thing, the way I look at it is you, like I said, you killed that song, that video, you gotta top that next time. I tell everybody the same thing. Every time you do another one, that's one thing that Jay-Z told Kanye when he first did through the wire. He said, that was a good album, but can you keep making them? Yeah. That's my goal, just keep going better. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't be the same. You know, just keep going up. You know, I always gotta progress, you know? Where do you self in two years? Where I see myself in two years? I see myself. And what will it take for you to get to that goal in those two years? You said, let's say it one more time for me. Where do you see yourself in two years? And what will it take for you to make that goal? In two years, I see myself in good. You know what I'm saying? I see me and my family out of the hood. I feel like everybody say that, but that is what it is. It's all good. No, no, no, no. I just see us in a way better position. You know what I'm saying? I feel like mentally, physically, all that. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel. And I feel like what it's gonna take, I feel like I just gotta believe in God and keep, you know, having faith. BMG, you over there, you loving the movement. Yeah. And you know with what you're doing, the only way Nicki Minaj was able to blemish was she had to out-wrap them niggas around the bridge and Lil Wayne. Listen to me. I'm serious now. Yeah. You got to out-wrap these niggas. I'm talking about the Yellow Beesies and the Bodegas and all that. Yeah. Yeah, you got to come with me. Then my boys will look. We got to sing. We got to sing together. I'm trying to come with you. I couldn't stand that hard. I'm sorry. Listen, man. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, you got to come for them niggas' neck. Yeah. I got to. I'm sorry. That's the way it got to be. I don't give a... And listen, I want that fire. When I hear you and I hear y'all collab, I'm going to be like, you better not let me down. Yeah, I ain't going to let you down. How far does it go? How far does it go? That means I'm going to let myself down. I can't do that. Come on, man. You got to come with it. And I'm definitely looking at the way people structure. And I'm seeing y'all got a good lineup. But the great ones in your shoes, they got to be harder than the niggas because it's hard for a woman to break. So you got to bring it. I'm going to bring it. Like never been brought before. Yeah. All right. I know I'm going to be watching. That's the reason why I was about to ask the question is how hard is it being a female in today's industry? I ain't going to lie. It's hard. Because I feel like the niggas don't take us serious. They look at us like, girl, you're just a girl, or they just want to get with us. You know, say they don't look at us like, okay, she that. You know, they don't look at us like that. It's like we got to work 10 times harder than the niggas. Okay, let them do it. Like that's just what it is. Then do it. Don't take us serious. So it's like you got to talk to them like you and niggas like, look, this, this is what I want. Like, is it, do you do it or? That's all right. And in that industry, what is the major, what has been, it might have been before this management team might be not. What has been the major obstacle that you have came upon that you can say that that is the biggest obstacle I've ever had to overcome in my career? Where the business is concerned? Really like recording with certain people, like with certain dudes, men producers, engineers and stuff. They be weird, you know what I'm saying? Well, you're cute. They be trying to figure out how to get next to you. Yeah, they be doing too much. Listen to me. Ain't no way in hell I was, how old are they? If they younger than me, see when you young, let me tell you something. They get old and acting like this. Oh, man, I mean, when I was, when I was about 28, 29, that might be old to you. Yeah, you weren't for the big, you've been in the studio with me, but I mean, looking like you looking, these niggas, mine is there. They mean, you know, you got to be strong enough to let that roll off your back. Yeah, I don't even pay attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, listen, man. I'm trying to hear all that. Once you have a good management team, I can see that stopping. But early on, it was some challenges. Early on, I knew that there had to be some challenges. Yeah, it's a big obstacle for me because I hate to hear stories about stuff like that. And it's like, it's heartbreaking because it's like, who want to go through something like that? It wasn't nothing big, but it was enough for me to be like, yeah, nah, this ain't what I want to do. You got with the right team. It can discourage a lot of people. It can discourage, because I've seen, we've seen it on here. We've seen where artists would tell us things like, people made passes at them and the way in which how they did it is like, you can't get this unless you do this. And he's a big artist. He's with big people that was up in the industry and hot right now. And they say things to these people and they discourage these girls because they trying to get on and you do it. And I was like, oh man, he's pretty much got, he got major songs and he could help me get on. Then he say something like that. I've been through that. Yeah, so that's a part of, but you gotta have tough skin. Yeah. Or like when they want to ask me questions because of what I write about, like, you do that for real? They do stuff like that. I'm like, boy, come on with it. But okay. Look at what you do for it. You be shooting for real? I'm like, they be doing so much. But it's so crazy because in today's day and age, like in the corporate world, you hear about all this Me Too movement and all of that, you know, sexual harassment and stuff like that. But in the music industry for females, you don't hear a lot of females coming up and saying this happened or that happened or, you know, sexual harassment. And I know it happens all the time. They need to speak up because I show will sit up like the corporate world because you don't got resources. But they need that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. You got it. For real. You don't go to. No. They need something to protect the woman in that business though. They really do because I'm sure these are some stories that we've heard about, but I'm sure that there's worse stories. More to come. Yeah, that is scary. Yeah. More to come. Yeah. That's why I'm so glad I got a team because when I was by myself, oh, Jesus. So top three artists of all times did our live. Any genre. Male or female? Top three artists of all time. Number one. Nicky. You got to come with it. I just told you that. You got to come with it. You got to come with it. So I know, yeah, because she's hard. Yeah, hard. Then all of them. Ain't nobody harder than Nicky, man. Ain't nobody harder than Nicky. Nobody. I stand behind her why she ripped niggas apart and women at the same time. She just put out all old songs in and can't nobody compare to them songs. That's dope. Number two. I like Lil Baby. Lil Baby, Lil Baby a lot. He's very, very talented. Very. Number three. It's always the hardest. Oh, it is. Number three. I like me some J.Cole. J.Cole. OK, so she said Nicky Minaj. Give me the second one. Lil Baby and J.Cole. J.Cole be speaking in real or like him. Oh, really, man? Yeah, he does. I like listening to him. So you could talk to your younger self and you could go and she's sitting right there beside you and she's about... She's about 16. When did you start? Oh, no, 18. 18, well, and to get her prepared for what she's about to face now, what would you say to her? I would say don't let nobody play on your top. OK, OK. I feel like when I was letting people try to bring me down, I was letting them. OK. And I feel like that stopped a lot. OK, that slowed the progress. It slowed it down. So I feel like if I knew what I knew now, I would have been gone. Oh, really? Everything starts in the mind. Yeah. So you have to condition your mind to, you know, think a certain way and be a certain way. I used to be depressed. Oh, yeah? Like crazy depressed. So... Well, let me ask you, so the new release that's coming out tonight. Man, we got to listen to. Do you have any videos that's already... Your heartbreak, right? Heartbreak is actually not on the tape. No, it's not. So what's the new video? It's not for clearances. Is that... It was just something to just, you know, give them a little tease, you know, just something to do. But I do got some visuals coming. I did one for Handle that. You know, not out yet. And what else? I did one for Relay. OK. And that's not out yet. That's not out yet. It's going to be on the tape. So, OK. The videos? No. We got to listen to. You like to hold people in suspense. You love to hold people in suspense. Next week? Look at him on Snapchat. We got to listen, man. And yeah, that's dope. I mean, you know, because at the end of the day, the video coming out next week, this interview is about to come out Friday, it's going down, man. It's going to be late. Yeah, this whole thing is going to be turned up. The song, once the album come out and everybody's loving it, they're going to be looking for that visuals. Yeah, man. I love visuals. So that's why, like, they be on me, too. Like, we need these videos, you know? So we be on it. If it be turned up, y'all are going to be seeing a lot of me. I'm going to put it like that. Check it, man. Here we go. Let's listen to this a little bit. Check it. This one is my favorite song. It's Big Me. OK. Fire. OK. So what was it? What was it? What was it I know here? I just feel like they be doing too much. They be Twitter guys. It's like, look, like I told y'all, what's up? We ain't been doing this on our internet. You ain't going to put on no show. You know what I'm saying? And like pull up. Yeah, like what you on? Like what are we doing this for? I'm gonna see the visuals to this one. Right. Mm. It's gonna be a real cute watch. Nah, I love what's going on with you, man. I might be the switched up on y'all. I got me a new, I don't know, got me a new favorite, man. Ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying? I don't think the internet give you enough justice. They don't, yeah. I'm talking about far as the weight of, I'm not talking about that point. I'm talking about some of the ways when I look at your brand. You dope, you dope in person. Thank you. I be watching every, she know how I am. I'm looking at everything and my mind be going so many different places. They'll wake up soon. No, no, no, no, you gotta focus too. You gotta make sure you give us the right situations and the visuals and the way you lay them out so we can get it. That's how I know they're gonna wake up. I just, I just, to be saying came out, yeah, I ain't seen everything. You still growing, you evolving every day? Every day. Oh really, man. I like that one though. Yeah. We got me showing in the building today, man. I feel good about it too. Yeah. I'm glad I'm here. Big me shit in this thing, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, I knew family and friends, huh? Aw. Already. I like that one, man. So that one was, been that? Yeah. Man, like that, man. That been that going in, man. Yeah, that's my song right there. That's your song? Yeah. They put me in the mood, like, I know them girls gonna be in the car, you know, they got their nails. Yeah. I need that visual, man. You don't get it, it's gonna be lit. I know it, you come get my old school. You know what I'm saying? We put that old school in there, huh? Yeah. Yeah, we can make it pop. Let go, let me hear that rude. This is your right of favor right here. Okay. Ziggy, man. Ziggy. That man got it right there. Hey. So you, what you sitting at writing this right here? You know, I was in LA, just sitting in the chair, and I was like, you know what, this little hoe got me put up. Was that the way it was? So do you think real life, like, mental issues is going on with you and somebody, like, I don't like this? Yeah. And you decide I'm gonna write the pen to it? And give me motivation. Yeah. So what's up, man? A lot of my songs, like, a lot of my songs would be based off how I'm feeling right then and there. Yeah, that's dope. I like it. That mean it's real, it's resonating in. So it gotta be real. It gotta hit you in the spot, right? Gotta be 100, man. And I know a lot of people go through it, so it's like, why not write it? Why not let them feel it? I know they gonna feel it. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I love it, man. Like I said, I can't wait for the album to drop, you know what I'm saying? Man, you gotta talk, yeah, I'm trying to figure out ways to get over there with low Ds in there. I know that's right. I'm gonna have to do a t-shirt or something for you and be like, y'all gotta come through here to get a t-shirt. Yeah, early on, I'm supporting. And then when it pop out, you can't never forget, like, you got my t-shirt, y'all go over there and get my t-shirt. Yeah, that's real, that's real. Yeah, I get a percentage of that thing. Hey, look at him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we both work it. And that's right. That's the way it go down, though. Business, you know what I'm saying? That's all about business moves, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Straight out of footwork, man. I hit these boys in the face where it hurt. With the right team, y'all. She's still growing. Yeah. Man. I can't wait to see how I look. Are you serious with me? Yeah. That's gonna be crazy. You don't remember them words. Put on. Go with it. What a bitch, stop playing. That bitch call me looking up to me. Might as well put this in, show me. Never played pussy for a nigga or a bitch though. My niggas know I got him on forever on my 10 toes. Tested bitches, gangsta, they softwareed in my pillows. Rolling up these bitches like some motherfucking rillos, yeah. Hey, that's what I'm talking about, man. Y'all don't even know, man. Feel good to me. That's my father right there. I better know them right there. That's a new project, right? Yeah. So we definitely appreciate you for coming on the show, man. Thank y'all for having me. Man, you did a hell of a job. Man, how can people get all of W? You know, follow me on Instagram, M-E-S-H-A-U-W-N. And Twitter, I just named my Twitter name. Come on, now. Come on, now. I'm talking fast. I should keep everything the same. Say hello. Yeah, look, I didn't want to have a custom word in my name. So that's how I changed it. It was like, Misha on hold up. Yeah, what is it, big Misha? It's Misha and G. That's my latest name, G. That's dope. Yeah. Hey, man. So, man, hey, man, we love you. You always welcome to come back on the show. You done made a new family, now low D's, it brought you over here to us. Yeah, and that is right. Yo, we are Canadian this thing, man. So anytime you need us to pull up for support, be like, I want y'all to come check this out. We don't show up, okay? That'd be awesome. Man, God bless you and your ventures, man. And we wish you much success, man. Exactly. Same, man. Boss Talk 101, it's been another great segment. And we out.