 Believe it or not CNN still has not called the race between Elliot Engle and Jamal Bowman Now if you watched my program last week we announced that Jamal Bowman not just Defeated Elliot Engle. I mean he beat him in a landslide, right? So I think it's pretty obvious that Jamal Bowman will emerge victorious even if we don't have all of the precincts reporting yet you can kind of Project who's going to win based on what we see currently but CNN still hasn't made the call yet now You can argue that you know their data people. They're just a little bit more conservative than you and I I'm going to argue that it's because they're haters and the reason why I say this is because CNN is obviously biased against Progressives and the left and they love the democratic party establishment and the establishment more broadly speaking But you see their contempt for the left in their interviews So Jamal Bowman was interviewed by Aaron Burnett a CNN anchor who has very vocally been against the left She called Bernie Sanders a hypocrite before And you know, you can kind of see In her tone in the way that she like talks about the policies that Jamal Bowman is in favor of That she disapproves. She doesn't like them So take a look because what he does here is just brilliantly dismantle the CNN propaganda that we always see So she's going to try To stop him from promoting, you know, defund the police or propagandize it by using Jim Clyburn's argument against it Watch how brilliantly he is and easily dismantling this bullshit So so you came in here and you fought hard and you know, if you're the winner here This is not the way a lot of people thought it was going to go to state the obvious governor Cuomo indoors congressman angle senate minority leader schumer endorsed him The house speaker Pelosi endorsed him Uh congressman hekeem jeffreys the current chair of the house democratic caucus senior member of the congressional black caucus What do you say to them tonight? Well, you know, again, the people have spoken, you know, we worked really hard from the very beginning of the campaign To build deep authentic relationships with people across the district across race across class across religion across age Again from co-op city the eden wall to rye new york So we did that work very urgently in the very beginning We had hundreds of volunteers working with our campaign knocking doors leafletting making phone calls So those relationships matter and we we've always felt confident that those relationships would translate into votes Even when the pandemic hit we were able to pivot pretty efficiently to a virtual campaign And it led us to the point where we're up now by by many many points So when it comes to calls for racial justice and the protests which also have defined so much of this race You have joined those calling to defund the police So I wanted to play for you part of a conversation I had with the democratic congressman and how some majority leave jim whip jim cliburn He wants police reform, but but here's what he told me about how we've used the defund movement. Here he is History is instructive I was there along with john louis back in the 60s And in the early 70s, we saw How our movement got hijacked We did a lot back then that led to where we are today We would have done even more If we had not got overtaken by sloganary burned baby burned Took off in this country be careful if we don't get hijacked this time like we got the last time What do you think when you when you hear his thoughts? Well defunding the police is about a reallocation of resources It's about a demilitarization of the police and investing in public health Investing in housing investing in jobs investing in education and health care and environmental justice Investing in mental health supports, you know, 50 percent of those killed by the police suffer from some mental or physical disability What that means is we need to take a different approach not a lethal approach Defunding the police also means the end of sending military equipment To local police forces that they then use on people within the community So it's not defunding as a rallying cry But what it means is it's a reallocation of resources toward the health and other areas that we've neglected for quite some time So it sounds like what you're saying is you understand his point Sometimes words can come to to mean something to people that may not actually be what you're saying I mean you're saying reallocate. You're not saying you don't want police I'm presuming right. You're not saying you don't want police providing safety You want them to be trained differently and behave differently, right as as opposed to going away Well, there's a role for police, but I push back on the notion that you know police and safety have to go hand in hand When we talk about safety the number one thing that makes me safety and safe safe and secure Is making sure that I have food security housing security So jamal bowman is a very smart person and I think that he knows like what she's trying to do He just lets you know this bias roll off of his shoulders. And that's really what you've got to do, right? She basically asked him at first How he thinks he won in spite of the entire establishment coming out against him Now, you know for me because I'm petty I would be inclined to like laugh and say because they suck But I mean he just you know, he very clearly said because the people have spoken and he's correct there But what we really get into the bias is when she tries to use the credibility of jim cliburn To try to you know push back against this notion that we should defund the police Now I shouldn't have to say this but as a news anchor your job is to inform your viewers So you shouldn't be confused about what to fund the police means if you are Do your research do a better job because you get paid millions of dollars, right? But she tries to make it seem as if defund the police isn't What it means what it seems like maybe it's more nefarious Maybe it means get rid of the police entirely so that way if someone's breaking into your home You have no one to call so I mean she's trying to be alarmist here But jamal bowman just he brilliantly Had an answer to that so he said defunding the police is about a reallocation of resources It's about a demilitarization of the police and investing in public health investing in housing investing in jobs investing in education Healthcare and environmental justice investing in mental health supports 50 of those killed by the police suffer from some mental or physical disability What that means is we need to take a different approach not a lethal approach Defunding the police means an end to sending military equipment to local police forces that they then use for people within the community So defunding is a rallying cry. But what it means is a reallocation of resources So I mean by now you should know this if you're confused by what it means And uh, you're a cnn anchor getting paid millions of dollars per year You should know what defund the police means by now You can't put all of what he said on a bumper sticker. So defund the police is easy It implies reallocating resources, right? It's easier to just say defund the police Uh, but she tried to make it seem as if well, you know defund the police Maybe this means get rid of the police entirely and sure it is the case that abolitionists Do want to defund the police But she's over complicating this because she's trying to obscure what this means, right? But it's not that difficult And jamal bowman broke it down beautifully. We have been over policing cities in america now For too long, right when we see this issue of homelessness. What is the response from cities? Oh, let's just throw more police at this scene. Let's over police the homeless away But that doesn't work you respond to issues that cities have Appropriately not with the one size fits all solution Rather than responding to homeless people and the crisis of homelessness with more policing rather than criminalizing homelessness You respond with housing Rather than responding to mental health crises with police You respond with health care mental health care specifically. So what he's saying is we have to rethink the way that we address all of humanity's issues, right? Up until now, it's just been police. Let's police this issue if we police drugs if we police crime All of this is going to lead to a better outcome, but that has been a proven failure So when people say defund the police, they're saying rather than giving all of the money that the city has to police We have to actually do a better job at tackling the root causes of these issues People aren't going to be more secure if we have more police in the streets when it comes to people of color They actually feel less secure more vulnerable because of the way that they are racially profiled By police officers and he also explained how police and safety Don't go hand in hand and that makes sense because think about this You're not more secure if you don't have food security or if you you know have housing insecurity So what he's trying to do is disaggregate this notion of security And police, right? We need housing security health care security We need to stop thinking as policing as the appropriate response to everything in society and actually do better, right? improve conditions in cities right And I mean, it's not necessarily something that Should be confusing for a CNN host like I get like you get a pass If you're an average person and you don't necessarily know what people mean by defund the police But if you are in the world of politics, if you've done any coverage of this as a news anchor Don't pretend as if you know, you don't know what it means Maybe she's playing devil's advocate because she wants Jamal Bowman to explain But I mean what it seems like if I'm watching this and I'm an average viewer Is that wow if this smart CNN anchor can't get it then this must be too confusing Maybe these protesters are wrong. Maybe their messaging is off. That's the takeaway And you know, it's not conspiratorial to say that given the coverage that mainstream media did when you know occupy hit I think they had a very clear message. But what did the media do? Oh, well, I don't know what they're calling for I don't know what these protesters want. They don't really seem to have a cohesive message I mean the message was clear Resources need to be redistributed in this country. The 99 percent have nothing and the 1 percent have everything Now I think that defund the police is much more concise and politically palatable because it's one specific policy Um, I mean there's multiple policies linked to that But I mean you could really tie it to one thing whereas with redistributing resources is more complex But I mean you you saw what they did They lied about what occupied was fighting for so I mean when it comes to these types of protests You know the the media can try to co-op the narratives and usually they're successful at that But I do feel a little bit encouraged knowing that they haven't really been able to do that at this point We see, you know people who don't necessarily agree with the overall message of protests like D Ray McKesson and this eight can't wait You know who was attempting to reduce police brutality by 72 percent or whatever But what about the other 28 percent? No police brutality is what we're aiming for So they you know, they're still on message to fund the police and they haven't wavered from this message And I think that's so encouraging and it's nice to see people like Jamal Bowman actually get elected So he can bolster their message bring that message to congress and explain It very eloquently as he did on cnn to people in congress who either don't get it or don't want to get it But I mean with someone like him in congress you can't pretend like you don't know when he's there to educate you So I mean this was a phenomenal clip and it shows you that uh, you know when he gets to congress He's gonna be a very effective legislator