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I do sometimes go through the alphabet like And every once in a while, I'll get it right because it's like I've got that first letter and it triggers something that I couldn't remember before It's very weird Man I did something to my finger now that will not heal. Oh, no, did you I said, you know what? I have begun to the doctor. They might have to pull off the nail. No Gosh and that escalated quickly. I don't Roger was very concerned No, you see like my nail right here Let's see if I'll focus in on it is a split like down that that little mark that splits been there since college When I was playing I was very When I was a very serious Street Fighter 2 player Yeah, I split it by hitting like I was trying to do a fireball with Ken or Ryu and I hit it too hard and it's Really, huh, so I blame Street Fighter 2 on that Oh, you guys take care of your hands, please. Yeah, I Just hurts and I don't know why there's no visible anything. It just feels like I did something dumb to it If you have a cut and then you get citrus juice or something on it might hurt Yeah, or a hot sauce or maybe I Get scurvy or I have the blight Scurvy lack of vitamin C hair falls out. He falls out. Yeah, your oranges. Yeah, if you do the blight though It's just lack of potatoes Is it I think it was I don't think the blight was an actual disease. I think it was just a lack like a drought of potatoes Yeah, like just a lot of a lot of potato fungus. Yeah. Oh, it's a lot maybe was a lot of that Yeah, but I always tell my kids that their french fries have the blight just to irritate them It's a good thing if there's no nutritional value in french fries anyway, so You need your starches, right a little bit carbs you need your carbs Speaking of what we need we need to start the show. So You start your cord you count down start record and then Sarah can do the Intro thing, right? Okay, cool All right, here we go. Let's start it in three two one Mason moody has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Mason become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday March 6th 2019 Tom Merritt is off today, but from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane Salt Lake City, Utah I am Scott Johnson and from a very wet LA County area. I'm the show's producer Roger Chang Yes, it is wet here I don't know if it's been raining in Salt Lake City as much as it has in Los Angeles Scott But I feel like we're in bizarro world. It's normally snow But because March is here we start to get really uneven with that like February is the worst month and right now Yeah, so whatever rain you have will probably end up here and then we'll send it to Colorado. They'll get snow It just gets worse from there. So thanks a lot Los Angeles We are sorry in advance what we're not sorry for though is a great tech news show coming up and let's start with a few tech things You should know All right, well, let's get right to it Reuters reports that Bansico the central bank of Mexico. That's right Bansico Always driving cool Is working with Amazon on a new government-backed payment system The system will be called Cody or CO DI and allow users to make in-person and online payments via QR codes More than half the population doesn't have a bank account and only 3.9% of retail sales were made online in 2018 in that country incentivizing more bank accounts Uber will not face criminal charges for a fatal crash involving one of its self-driving cars Prosecutors have ruled that the company is not criminally liable for the death of Elaine Hertzberg who she was 49 Who was struck as she crossed a road in Tempe, Arizona? Also according to the internal Apple document obtained by Mac rumors. They always end up with these Someone's got friends on the inside over there anyway The company will now allow devices with batteries installed by third parties to be eligible for genius bar and other authorized repairs Previous Apple guidelines called for denying service to the devices with third-party batteries regardless of those circumstances I think that's actually kind of a big deal A lot of people do go get the third-party cheaper thing and the fact that they can now go into apple and Get a better one and not be turned away. Yeah for saving a few bucks I think that's it's it's good will. Um, there's probably some other reasons there too. All right Let's talk a little bit more about The foldable phones That will not die scott. That's what everybody it's 2019 everybody has Freakin foldable phone these days or they don't have a phone yet, but everybody wants you to have one Bloomberg sam kim reports that samsung is working on Two new foldable phones. So if you thought that one they just released wasn't enough This is according to sources within the company the company plans to roll out a vertical clamshell foldable by late 2019 or early 2020 That would be my bet Possibly with a second screen on the outside of the device when it is folded Which kind of ruins the idea of folding it but anyway an outward folding device similar to yaw ways Mate x design which we have had a look at would follow the company Will reportedly include an in-screen fingerprint reader and is still working on improving the durability of the foldable panels I'd said this last week and I would reiterate it again Uh, these things need some iteration before I'm going to trust them and it's Nothing about samsung or anybody else making a foldable phone. It's that fold I'm concerned about and with with a lot of use. I just can't see that holding up yet So it's the second and third generation of these that I'm most interested in and it sounds like we may get some of that before the end of the year Yeah, I mean it's starting to feel like groundhog day when when I see these stories because I'm like, wait a second Didn't we just talk about samsung's foldable phone? Oh, these are more foldable phones that are that are being worked on that might have different form factors and and yeah, I I I tend to sort of laugh about the whole thing because it's all still so conceptual because You were you were I or Roger or Tom or anybody we haven't had a year to be like, oh, here's why it was really great Here's why I changed the way that I did things. Here's what didn't work You mentioned having a display on the outside of a folded device like does that really? You know, is that is that a form factor that you're going to figure out later on? It's really helpful even though it seems perhaps silly now. Well, and that's the other issue Especially given the price. Nobody knows what the killer application is for this if there is one Um And so they can show me all the neat little videos of a game that's vertical suddenly getting larger right in the middle of the game That's great But that's going to last me three or four seconds of i'm impressed before I need to know what this is really going to do for Me down the road I I hope for this but not at $1,500. So Uh, I hope they quickly get smaller flatter more durable and Cheaper I want the clamshell design to actually look like a clamshell That's what I want. That's that's what I wanted my foldable phone Let's make them stylish again people at the 2019 tensor flow dev summit today google announced a bunch of tensor flow stuff A new open source tensor flow privacy module was kind of the big one for its machine Learning framework developers can now add just a few lines of code and improve the privacy Of their ai models tensor flow is a very popular developer tool I think it turned about three years old back in november millions of folks are are in there developing Our word has been Installed certainly millions of times for building machine learning applications to create programs like text or audio or image recognition algorithms google's tensor flow privacy will add what they call differential privacy to help safeguard users data, which is a Kind of complex at least to me mathematical approach That means that ai models trained on user data can't encode personally Identifiable information because that gets dangerous google already uses it for a number of its own ai features like gmail's smart reply Aha got it google also debuted tensor flow federated or tff Which is supposed to make it easier to experiment with machine learning and other computations on decentralized data And the company also announced the tensor flow 2.0 alpha or gave a some some hints of what was coming With a glimpse of upcoming changes aimed at making machine learning easier for beginners That would be me Well, that's going to be the next big step I think is them codifying these concepts in such a way that people can use them in more common circumstances, so having a class in a high school that's focused on You know tradition just traditional computer science would love probably to have an entire course On machine learning and what that is if they can make that easy and accessible For that environment. That's a good thing for not only Education now but the future of the technology and where it goes and interest in it and that sort of thing but more over It will be tricky to find all the practical applications for this without easy tools And simple methods to try to implement it and to experiment and to mess around and i'm glad you brought up the The gmail integration because there's a good example of a regular Thing we use all the time gmail is constantly telling me what I want to reply with and I have Sort of have to make a decision if I want to do that or not. Sometimes it's not great Um, but it's a start and I think that's really good Um, this is an important step. I guess I should say because outside of this it's very abstract and complicated and nobody's got their finger exactly on what the future of AI machine learning is So I I think this is a good thing that google is doing and I hope that others in this field uh follow Agreed Google is testing speaking of google Ads that's right. They still make a lot of money from ads everybody. They want to do shoppable ads on google image searches The search giant will place related sponsored ads within image search results. The ads will feature a price tag A little icon on the lower right of the image A user can then hover over the image and see what item is for sale Uh in the image along with the price Currently the test is a small percentage of traffic with uh, a select retailers is all they're going to start with Surfacing uh on brand queries like home office ideas shower tile designs and abstract art Here's how I Forsee this is a possibility for people like me if you're a independent artist and creator and you're putting work out there A lot of times what happens, especially if your stuff memes out a little bit people start spreading it around They take your name off it gets cropped for whatever reason sites will post it without your Permission they end up getting filtered back into the image search on google And I'll sometimes run into my own work and go. Oh my gosh. There's that print I made my name's nowhere on that and no one has any idea that it's mine But people are using it for their blogs and their whatever It'd be kind of cool if when those results came up one of the cool things you could do with an in image ad Would be purchase a 12 by 18 inch version of this print 14 and suddenly Artists are getting attribution There's probably a long distance between what I'm saying and what's actually possible Even with this test, but I would like to see it be more than just oh, you're searching for stuff in the home office How would you feel about a new fax machine? That's great and all but I love the idea of more attribution People getting credit and then maybe even getting You know some money for that Yeah, but when I first read the story, I was like, oh man, don't screw up my google image searches They're they're they're the the wild they're the wild west of image searches. And that's how I like them However, that's also a reason that if I am searching for a new lamp Let's say something that it could be purchased somewhere I'm not doing that within google. I might be at amazon, but I might be at pinterest I I frequent house H O U Z Z all the time for for for home stuff that I usually can't afford But they they have a very nice integrated way that you can click into Some images not all of them to be able to figure out where the retailer is where you could buy this This particular item. So if there was more of that in google image search I would use it for that reason more because most of the time That's not what I would use image search for although Roger you did mention that That that is actually something that could be helpful when you're Looking for something that's a home improvement project, for example And you actually want to make sure you've got the image right So, you know what I was thinking like for one of the things that I often do an image search for is a part Or if I see instructions on the how to do like hey to fix your door hinge You're gonna need blah blah blah in this tool oftentimes they won't include an image I'll do an image search for whatever tool and you get like this is what the tool is It could very well be is something where it's like a home depot or lows You know integrated ad where like oh you can buy this you know torque wrench For 50 bucks at this store or you can buy it off amazon The the only problem and the only fear I have is some of these ads start displacing actual legitimate image search results So they're not at the top but rather all the way at the bottom and then you're just constantly scrolling through yeah, right That's an issue for me as well, but it also is Maybe not a bigger. Well, maybe a bigger issue for me is I use google image searches for references It's like I need to quickly go. I need somebody doing a backflip. I need an image reference to draw this Um, there's a guy doing it and I'll use it for a minute and then it'll go away I may have a weird use case and maybe google's never really known what to do with image search And they're finally finding a way to use it. So I mean I have to change my way of thinking about what image search is actually for But I'd be at least curious to see where this goes Well in alphabet news. Anyway, waymo announced a medium post in a medium post rather He didn't announce a medium post. Those already exist waymo will start selling its lidar sensors to companies outside of the self-driving automobile market With an initial focus on security robotics and agriculture The money earned from sales would help the company lower the unit price of the sensors through economies of scale Although the company has developed several models of lidar. It would only be selling the laser bear honeycomb version It's a short range sensor with a 95 degree vertical field of view and a 360 degree horizontal field of view A minimum range of zero meaning that it can see things right in front of it and features multiple rear Multiple returns per pulse interested parties should visit the waymo website I as I said earlier off air think this is really cool because Everybody always wants to focus on what's the end game for automated cars and stuff like that and driving And we always think it's going to be some company like tesla or somebody who invest millions in these top to bottom solutions It's a car. It's takes you everywhere. You never drive it That's the ultimate goal and I get it and that's great and there's a bunch of companies working on that But what I've seen very little of is companies working on smaller more modular Plug-in solutions and I don't mean that this solution is going to make my car drive itself obviously not but it is a piece of that and perhaps a stepping stone toward The car itself being a much smarter Quote-unquote ecosystem or device And I could see a future where things are much more modular There's a lot of safety questions in that and we haven't answered those yet and we're not going to be able to today obviously but Uh, I like the idea that the choices may not be I'm getting this brand car. It might be I'm eating their chassis their engine and their navigation system and Kind of building your own, you know Your own is kind of set up or at the very least having more control over what you've got if you own these self-driving cars If it's more of a fleet situation if none of us are even owning cars in 50 years Well, then we can have a different conversation about it, but uh, I I like this modular idea a lot What's what's interesting is in many ways. It's kind of how cars are built With with all the with all the extra features that you get uh today For example the whole radar brake assist like oh, you know the car will automatically break for you If you get too close to the car in front of you if you buy this option It's one of those things that was developed By a company and then just sold to forbmw or whatever and they would develop or they would license the technology So the company could then build its own version to integrate with their automobile I think I think you're right. I don't think the future will be a tesla The test will definitely be part of the future, but I don't think it will be the future It's going to be a technology from a company Uh, for example, there's a I forgot his name There's one individual who developed the intermittent wiper that everyone has on their car, right? It's the what it's a wiper mode that Intermittently does it every two seconds every four seconds He developed the original circuit for that and a bunch of cars Supposedly ripped them off and and car companies but ripped off and developed it. But the idea is that one Company one guy developed it and then that technology kind of spread across the industry And I think that's kind of what you're seeing. I think you can see the same thing with Electric vehicles where it's going to be the one company that develops the really amazing storage technology that allows you to You know cram 100 plus miles into an average size sedan on electric power And then, you know, they're going to license it everyone's going to license it and put it in their automobile And that's where you get the economies of scale where you can have literally not just thousands But hundreds of thousands of automobiles and with this sensor What they plan to do is essentially just you know Get it to the point where they can sell it at a much cheaper cost because they're selling it to everyone right I think I agree with that. I think that's uh I mean, why wouldn't it follow that path? That's how most products end up in our hands Is this kind of iterative Added on to licensed out broken apart rethought sort of process Nobody's going to arrive at my house with a package with a bow on it that says here's yourself driving car With every piece of functionality we could ever want Congratulations, it doesn't work that way and whether it's something like we talked about earlier with foldable phones or it's You know getting much closer to automated driving It's going to take a bunch of iteration mistakes failures And hopefully a few successes before we get it Well laser bear honeycomb is a cool name. That's for sure Hey to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com In fact, you'll hear my voice on the headline show tomorrow All right, so this is our discussion for the day and it's all about Good and bad companies or at least how they're perceived By people in the u.s. Axios wrote up It was a it was actually a poll between Harris poll and axios in conjunction with each other of u.s. Adults Facebook's Facebook sort of fall from grace was the big headline But the the the way that the axios Harris poll works is that it ranks the Reputations of the most visible companies in the u.s. So the surveys conducted among almost 20 000 americans It's a two-step process first it surveys the public's top of mind awareness of companies Who are seeing of some range of good or bad in society or somewhere in between Then these most visible companies are then ranked by a second group of americans to figure out their actual ranking One being the best and 100 being the worst if a company isn't on the list then it doesn't necessarily mean that It's a good or bad company It just means that it did not have a critical enough level of visibility to be measured in this poll So of those companies they weren't all tech companies, but a lot of them were And again, like I mentioned Facebook got a lot of attention But there are some there are some very interesting data points in here For example, amazon held the number two spots of companies kind of doing the best as far as the public perceived them Wegmans was number one grocery chain samsung was at number seven microsoft at number nine There's also fastest rising and falling Reputation areas this isn't for 2019 samsung climbed from number 35 to number seven So yeah, samsung's had had a good year since we did this last Netflix and apple both saw small declines, but they're kind of hovering in the 20s Facebook though fell from number 51 to number 94 Which is a very large drop for any company No, of course Facebook is facebook and has had quite a bit of issues certainly in the public eye We've we could it's a long laundry list of of issues that that folks have whether it's, you know, distrust or you know Are you swinging elections and what are you doing with their data and and and we've talked about that at nauseam, but Even so it it's it's a very steep steep decline tesla by the way also fell from number three Which is pretty high to number 42. So it's interesting the way that these social shifts happen quite quickly and sometimes Quite dramatically the same thing with tesla, right? Like they've had similar scrutiny not Not the same scrutiny as facebook is a different market obviously, but But in on musk likes to say a bunch of wacky stuff online affects stock prices things get weird with public companies He complains about that it That's you could see that starting to erode into people's perception of what tesla was before all of that which was this amazing pristine product that Only a genius could come on, you know, like they had that whole shroud And this is that shroud being pulled away a little bit facebook one I feel like has been brewing for years and you know has been A little bit strange But I would actually like to remark that samsung's climb from 35 to 7 is pretty remarkable considering The note 7 nightmare that they went through And seem seemingly at least according to this data have come out. Okay Or at least it just took some time right to like gain the trust back of at least these people pulled on the us Well, I think it does underscore the fact that Memories can be short especially when there are a lot of other companies that can fall in their face Just as rapidly as you do One example is a microsoft. I mean microsoft For for those who might not be familiar with the company wasn't What was the subject of a lot of scorn and on public anger back in the early 2000s all the way up into the late 2000s And in the harris pole that they did in 2011 microsoft pulled in at 16 Now nine going up to nine now. I mean, it's not a huge jump, but it's still a significant Shift for the company and a lot of that has to do with the way the company is now perceived Especially with the way the company's been captained by satcha nudella and kind of the the shifts in the way the company does its business away from a os-centric our way or the highway kind of attitude Versus more of a collaborative and they still might be, you know, the most obnoxious bean counters on the planet that Want a nickel and dime you for everything you have But the public face that they give is definitely more palatable palatable than it was in 15 years ago Oh, yeah for sure I mean, it does also it's just a nice little reminder that public perception, especially in companies who deal with public facing Products facebook is the perfect example of this, but you would I would throw twitter in there and others they are always just one controversy away from Dropping 50 spots on this list like Right, you know in they in fakes, but face books case. I'm just a fake book. That's not good Uh, if they're wouldn't be the first person to pointy and slip On that one. I'll just let that lay over there on the floor. I tripped on it but they The scrutiny they've had is on such a higher level like they've been in front of congress. They've been in front of EU parliament they've had to Uh lay bare all of their practices and then in cases where they forgot about something either Innocently or not Then they're getting after being got after again because they forgot to disclose a thing like they level of scrutiny is Magnifying lens on an ant hill when I was five it was all about just killing as many ants as I could and I feel like Facebook's not going to do they're not going to go up on this list very quickly Um, so there may be a weird example, but I think any of these companies could At any given time just slip up slip down And also you might look at this and say well amazon's doing great number two behind a beloved grocery chain Okay, well are you are you comparing netflix and amazon? And if so Is it original amazon video that you would compare to netflix? So there are there are so many data points in here that in these two companies It's not sort of like microsoft and apple which one's better because The the reason that people might be happy or displeased with the company It could be for a lot of reasons depending on how big the company is and what they offer And I think there's a certain level of how much competition does a company have for public opinion to really Sway their business decisions right facebook doesn't have an immediate You know competitor that does everything it does there's companies that do bits of what it does But not in the same scale that facebook does so there's there's a level of You know it has more opportunities to screw up Well, it someone said kind of an insufferable attitude that well, you know what we're still we're still the only player in town So people are invariably going to come around to us even if not directly And so, you know, you see you see it with other other companies That have you know for the longest time like, you know AT&T when it was mob l it was like, well, you know, we dropped your call. We're sorry But guess what we're the phone company. We are the phone company There are no other phone companies if you need to use the phone you're going to use it with us So, you know, yeah, we're upset. You know, we're we're sorry you're upset But it doesn't really matter us There's only then when you had competition where you kind of lit a fire under their corporate behinds where they started At least publicly tried to change their Their their direction as well as their attitude toward the customers not looking them like more of a You know just kind of a fiefdom but more as customers that they need to keep happy Yeah You know related to everything that we're talking about here is a story today From the Guardian that Whole Foods had cut workers hours after Amazon which owns Whole Foods introduced a new minimum wage, which was $15 and in certain cases for management It was a little bit higher But if you weren't making $15 and you worked Whole Foods, then you then you became $15 minimum wage However, workers have complained of now having fewer hours even though the overall Budget for these stores in some cases really haven't changed and they say well this wipes out our raises all together You know, I was working 40 hours a week and now I get more per hour and I'm only working 32 hours This kind of it kind of screws us up And I think that this is a perfect example of something that if that's if that gets enough traction People will start saying oh Whole Foods is bad to their employees Whole Foods is a bad company You know and will that dock Amazon when we look at this pull next year? Yeah, I think that's very possible like they On the one hand well, whether it's true or not the perception will be Amazon swooped in created a minimum wage that is a living wage and that's good And that seems like a good company practice, but then sneakily, you know reduced everybody's hours nullifying the the good Whether or not that's actually true it may not matter in cases like this because we're really just talking about perception I noticed that Chick-fil-A was number four last year Number 22 this year. That's still pretty good chicken. I don't know what's going on over there Ah, it's because they closed their local branch near me and people were mad. Oh, all right. I wish I had been pulled I I always wonder why don't I get pulled on things like this? I would love to be part of a poll like this never happens Hey, thanks everybody who participates and are subreddit. It's a poll of sorts of its own You can submit stories and vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit.com Facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show is where to hang out with us on facebook That's your bag speaking of bags I'm back to amazon now. We got an email from kevin who said I just placed my first amazon order and shows amazon day For delivery it felt good for a couple of reasons number one I would have likely been in the mountain skiing on thursday on the expected two-day delivery date Two, I feel like in the future I can help reduce a lot of waste when there are products with different delivery dates I don't think I would have even noticed that this was a new option Had you guys not mentioned it because i'm usually pretty automatic with my orders search add to cart hit order close browser Something did occur to me. However, this will likely be saving amazon a ton of A ton over the long haul. They should really give customers some sort of a price reduction for using this Yeah, amazon doesn't seem to be don't hold your breath. Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath either. We got another email from Uh our boss chip from snowy boston Hey chip Yeah, go celtics. I guess I was trying to think of a good team to the back today I was listening to your conversation yesterday about the ordine stove and how its space saving design would be great for small Kitchens and it hit me. I've seen this before a few years back. I toured kentuck knob a frank Lloyd Wright house built in the early 50s And part of the tour we went through the house of small kitchen which had many Small sorry many space saving innovations including a fold down stove. Let's get some pictures. They sound with this Uh, the electric stove was a frigid air product From the same time period it allowed you to fold down the four burners in uh one at a time So it only took up as much space as you needed on the counter The benefit this 60 plus year old product had over the ordine was the burners were detachable So you could take one or more with you to the dining room or outside to keep food warm. That's kind of rad Uh, obviously the ordine is much more. Is it ordine or ordine? I hope i'm saying it, right? Or we'll say ordine Uh much more modern tech but the space saving concept is the same I always wondered why the design never caught on Hopefully now with the advent of in or advent of injunction cook tops It may love the show keep up the great work your boss chip from snowy boston Yeah chips. I loved those photos. You sent chip. They're so cool. Wherever that house is. I would like a tour as well Yeah, so thanks to kevin. Thanks chip. 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Hope you have enjoyed this bro Sure did we did it Chats Showbots Work all Yeah, I think we do pretty good job. Uh, you'd think we'd be all stressed out and nervous just you know It's tom's baby. I don't want to screw this thing up, but it always goes well, so Kentucky where's this house look? Oh, it's in pennsylvania Chalk hill pencil all the vampires are pennsylvania I do a good vampire. What can I say? Well, I want to go to transylvania. Yeah, romania. It's in romania. I it's It's a state Province it's a region. It's a region. Yeah, it's a romanian region. They've tried to make it a little more touristy I think they added a theme park Really? Well, that's not why I would go Well, I mean, they're they're trading off the the whole transylvania, you know, dracula and all that stuff. Yeah mason Sorry, that's you. Hey mason. I just wanted to shout you out Uh, yeah, I I don't know I don't I've never been to any part of romania. So that's just a you know, if I haven't been to a place I'd like to go. Why not? I've only met five romanians in my life How do you how do you know that so quickly? Because two of them were at state one of them was a guest where it was was connected to a guest on call for help Uh, and then the other two well, what if you met a romanian and didn't know it? That's true. There's five romans. I know I've met secret romanians I don't know. I can't I can't think of and I know i'm just probably blanking I can't think of any friend who's I don't know. Yeah. No. Are you saying just a romanian descent or Like romanian like grew up there. Yeah, like, you know talked with romanian accent No, I don't yeah, I don't know. I can't think of yeah. I think of any Come forth romanians show yourselves Oh Strike it rich strike it rich. Uh, sure. So go to show about that chat realm dot net and vote on your titles We have the of course from facebook to face plant That's a good one. Um be made be like mason thanks mason adding to the fold Adding to the fold waymo sensors. I like waymo sensors. I see what you did there uh mo jam Oh mo jam has a good one your reputation precedes you That's a good one that fits right into our thing It does Yeah, that's what I'm gonna vote for I voted for that as well Okay, all right. So uh reputation precedes you done Yeah Done and done And so do you think they're gonna be mad that I didn't like take my car to the car wash right before I turned it in We're doing you for that It's raining though. Just tell them it rained and you know, what are you gonna do? Well, but it's the inside really that's that's you know, it's the outside Like, you know, they can just hose it down, but I think it's not a rental car They can deal with it. They can deal with it. Yeah, I'm sure they'll find a reason to tell me that they had to like Get a special wash because I didn't But nobody said anything like oh, you need to return if it's not part of If it's not part of the lease like you must have this like you when you read a car It says you need to have at least three quarters of a tank full. Sure. Yeah, right If it doesn't say that it's like well, whatever like, you know, it's not damage. It's just dirty Well, and exactly and I you know, I've had the car for three years. It's you know, it's it's not like It I've had plenty of time for a little wear and tear in there Not that it's in bad shape, but it's just you know, a little dusty, you know, dog blanket and the back type thing But yeah, they have a return fee That I don't remember hearing about until Very recently and so it's like Let's call the cleaning fee part of that because it's not an insignificant amount of money A return fee like was this is is this because of your situation or that's what they do for every lease I don't no, no, no, no, no, it's it's it's it's just a that's standard what they do is When your lease is up and I don't know if all car companies are the same but Um for my particular lease what they they say is like and then there's a return fee Which of course will wave if you get into another lease Even though it's like another three year lease is so much more money than like Just paying that return fee if that's not what I want to do, you know So they they like barely incentivize you to Just stick with them by waving, you know things that seem like nice fees, but probably don't matter very much It's all a big racket cars suck cars or rack kids. I hate it True We will promise jet packs Where is it? They make them they just don't last very long and they burn your backsides if you're not careful Yeah, I know they're just not ready Get way more in the case It'll be a lot of fun in no case. I don't know I I always thought about leasing a car, but the thing is I do a lot of unpredictable things with my car So I don't think I would be a good lease person And see I'm this I'm The opposite because I have a hard time committing to anything Uh, I'm a very non-committal car person. So the the whole kind of like Well, you're basically just renting a car and you know, it's never going to be your car That's that works for me because then I'm only committing to a couple of years at a time I don't know it has worked for me in the past We'll see how it works in the future because when I owned My cars over the years sometimes I had them long enough to pay them off And I was like wow, and then it's just my car. That's nice Huh, then a while since I felt that way I bought uh, I bought a certified used Camry because I wanted something that was cheap ish Uh, and relatively low cost on the insurance and maintenance Mm-hmm, and I managed to find one with only 11,000 miles on it. Yeah, I mean that's The the used car never bothered me at all. I don't care. I don't care who was in this car before maze Yeah, as long as it's in good shape low mileage And and and works I remember my friend saying it's like don't I hate used cars like why it's like well How do you know like someone didn't die in it? That's like so what? It's not like it's not like they're gonna haunt the car Well, these aren't real Maybe in transylvania you'd have a problem, but no. Yeah, I feel the same way of um, when people say You know, what if you know somebody died in this house that we're thinking of buying It just doesn't I don't know if I wasn't there I live in an email house. I don't know how much I would care that that might have happened for someone There's a big possibility that yeah the older your house is like someone probably died in it some way I mean, you know, as long as it wasn't as long as it was peaceful. It wasn't like something shady or anything like that But even if it was It really does unless you're just kind of superstitious it still shouldn't matter if you like the house Some people are though like, you know like oh, you know, you you built your house. It means that all die badly It just means it works that way weird happen and why like if somebody got shot or was a murder suicide or something You'd probably want to not know where it happened because every time you'd walk into that room or a bedroom Yeah, it's true It's true. If I was facing something like that. Maybe it would bother me more than I think about it Yeah, unless you're super superstitious or something. I mean, I if I got the right deal on the house It wouldn't stop me from buying the house just burn the room have a priest come in and bless it and they were set Done done I watched poltergeist. I know as long as the headstones. It's not just the headstones. We're all set Uh, is that the story with poltergeist? I don't really remember they built the housing project Which is actually not too far away from me. Uh, they built that housing project on On the sacred like it was the cemetery and but they didn't they didn't exhume the caskets They just took the tombs or the headstones off and built everything on top. Well, that's poor form For sure. I'd be mad too if I was a ghost. I mean like Sarah knows at least a quarter of san francisco is built on reclaimed cemetery Yeah, yeah, they moved all those bodies to south san francisco or colma mostly I don't really know where south san francisco ends and colma begins That area is all it's so weird Yeah, it's basically as soon as you start hitting the cemeteries and you hit like the The one casino nestled between the cemeteries. That's colma. Yeah Yeah, I actually knew somebody who was a um card dealer at that casino Really? He was a strange person. Um, and For lots of reasons. Um, the card dealing part was the least strange thing about him. But yeah, that's where he worked And he always had weird story. This is a long time ago. This was like when I was at college So it was pestering you about deals. I could make a good deal for you. No, he was just a weirdo He was just a weird man who worked at the colma casino When I go home the only people accompanying me on my commute are dead people Although a couple of people a couple of the old Victim from the okay corral or some supposedly buried like doc Holliday or something out there Have you seen just for that? Yeah, but he's just it's just a tombstone and supposedly his remains You know, I I don't know how we all feel about cemeteries and not all cemeteries are created equal obviously, but there are some like like in um Eva Perone's Cemetery Ricoletta cemetery in Buenos Aires. I've been there and it's like one of the most beautiful things you've ever seen Not just her kind of it's a huge tomb thing But just the whole thing towards attraction in in its own way, but it's like wow I mean it was like one of my favorite parts of my time there Then there's other cemeteries where you're like, you know, I'm not not liking this. I don't want to hang out here Yeah, the the cemeteries in New Orleans are like this. They're just Breath-takingly beautiful in the daytime. Yeah at night. I'd rather be anywhere but there Yeah, like they're right. Yeah. It's too. It's too. It's too good too gothic and kind of yeah Well, if it's a if it's all the right notes if it's a proper Cemetery that means event of eventually have fog run over it and it'll just be super creepy I Yeah, I I don't uh, yeah, I mean not that I'm hanging out in cemeteries all the time, but you know Paraliches in Paris where Jim Morrison's buried among many many other people Is that still like frequented like that used to be a big so I only went there once um To the cemetery anyway, and it was in the winter and it was cold and I was alone I just really wanted to go and I don't even remember who I was with but they didn't want to go And so I was like, all right. See you guys later. I'm I'm doing this and I definitely like when you find the You know where he is there were like teenagers like drinking beer and kind of you know Just being teenagers in the general area, but it wasn't like It was pretty mellow You know don't know occult rituals or anything like that Someone Cold rituals occult. Oh, oh, oh, I didn't see anything like that. No, uh, who knows? Here's my one creepy story about Jim Morrison Um, and it's not because I knew him or anything because he he longs for the past before I was born um Is that uh, I used to frequent the uh, the cd uh vinyl swap meets with my my old friend And he was super into it because he would just always trade like bootleg CDs and stuff Um, but we had a table next to this woman who was also selling CDs She had like the craziest stories about Jim Morrison and it was weird because it's almost religious like if you believe in him And you you you follow the path. He led forth. He will always watch over you. Let's say Oh Oh, okay. Yeah, you do realize he was like just a head. He was just a rock star and Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, so it's like going it's going beyond the I was just a big fan It was I believe things that might not be It's not it's not even like oh, I have a say it's like I guess it's jesus like messiah level weirdo Yeah, try try watching that leaving neverland documentary on HBO and then saying out loud to anyone who's remotely a michael jackson fan that Uh that somebody should watch that documentary and you'll see just how far their people worship goes. It's like Yeah, that's into their idols I haven't um, I haven't seen that yet Kind of dragging my feet a little bit very highly It's got it's rough and uh raw and Extremely exhausting and really well made but I think kind of A bit of a required viewing. I think I think it's Maybe I'll watch it tonight other than just anything salacious. It's really just uh It's an a kind of a a drawn-out look at childhood abuse and what it means and what it can do to people as adults and It's not just simply Michael jackson did this thing. It's it's way more than that I really liked it Okay, it'll it'll go on the list All right All right, you know catch up on my other stuff Uh and speaking of other stuff, uh, we want to say goodbye to the video watching folks on youtube Thank you so much for being with us today. Tom is back tomorrow with david spark and Just All right, and uh people in the audience stay tuned. We got more to tell you about three much steers Three we do. Yes Okay