 We are back with Samoa Rava in the morning as we promised. Today is Gwyn's Wednesday and you know it's about that time for strength of a woman. In my hands I have chia seeds. That means we are living healthy today. We are going organic. This lady is very powerful. After studying nutrition in school she went into skiing, nurturing and she goes by the name Wanjeku Karebusana. Wanjeku, I am so excited about this conversation because ladies are trying to find the shortcuts to beauty. You have another solution. You will be telling us about that but before that you can introduce yourself on camera for if I missed anything. Hi, my name is Yvonne Wanjeku and I am the founder and CEO of Zorazar Organics. It's a natural skin and hair brand. We deal with natural skin. I can tell from your skin that you are really glowing without makeup and you look really beautiful which is the way we should go. Last week we had a conversation about people lightening their skins and people are feeling comfortable in their skins as Africans and we are going to be talking about that as well but I'd like to know where the name came from, the name of the company. Previously I was called Shivon Organics. That was Shiko and Yvonne but I figured that name didn't represent my Africanness, my roots. Your roots, your nafi hair. Yes, so it sounded more Asian, more Italian so I figured let me just I'll get another name with time so it took me like a whole year to get to Zorazar and then I figured Zora means a dawn, it's a new dawn. Zora is a name, it's an Arabic Spanish African name meaning princess, beautiful. So I figured Zora Zora is a new dawn, a new beauty. I like the play in the sound as well, the literations. Zora Zora. Yes, Zora Zora. Organics. Yes exactly. I like the name, I like the creativity behind it but what I like the most about this is the reason that you're pushing for organic products the most. First you went into campus to study nutrition, is this what you always wanted to do? I always you know I've always struggled with my weight so that is something that I've always... So the inspiration came from somewhat personal? Personal yeah nutrition I want to know how to and also my skin was dry, flaky, and I wanted, I didn't have time, I figured I didn't have the passion for makeup so I figured what can I do to still get what I need to get. Healthy and still look you know glow. Yeah because I figured makeup takes a lot of time which I'm really slow, I can imagine me doing makeup. Most of them I knew took a lot of hours to prepare for it. Yes I think like today if I say I woke up at 330 and you know there's no makeup so if there was makeup I think I would have to wake up at 2. That means you sleep with your eyes, you don't become productive. I'm slow. So I figured let me just try some, let me just invest on something like my hair because also natural hair is very hard to maintain, very hard. Especially the African one I have. Exactly. So I figured that's the time I can invest. If I did my hair plus my face I would take the whole day. Yeah so that's how I started and with time you know I was working out, I was doing all this, I had friends, I had one friend who she used to be bigger but she's also into natural stuff and everything and I got even more interested to know there's somebody else who wants has the same passion as me. So she's older than me so I followed up with her, I learned, I researched. As you can see I have hair as well, it takes me a lot of time to get some tips from you. I'd like to know after you studying nutrition, then you got inspired by your personal story to get into, to turn this nutrition that you learned to nurturing skin and nurturing hair. All right so maybe you can take us through the first, the first thing you do in the morning, what is this? I pray. You pray, after you pray you nurture your spirit, you nurture yourself spiritually first and then what? I drink warm water, that's the first thing I do, like two cups and then if I have maybe, it depends, I might have nim powder or aloe vera powder, liv powder or wheat grass, I mix it up in warm water and the baoba powder and maybe either, maybe the two of them, moringa, I drink, then I stay for like another one hour, then I take maybe fruits, then after that later I'll take my breakfast. You'll take your breakfast. Oh so these things are not to be taken with bread or guache? No no no no, there are things that you take. They're not as tasty because something like nim and aloe vera are bitter and moringa has a bad taste. Baoba is sour, but I like the taste and wheat grass is tasteless. Can this help when you want to get into that ritual that you participated? Oh yeah, I put honey in some of the drinks, but I would prefer drinking them without honey, but I know people who use honey. So if I have, you know, I love my honey, I always have my, a lot of cases just for me, so I use my honey, but mostly I like drinking them alone. All right, so that is before, that is after you wake up when you prepare for the day, right before you go to sleep? Right before I go to sleep after a shower of course, I'll drink either nim, mostly I like drinking nim powder. I feel like it, you know, when I sleep it does something in my body or I drink. You feel the juices flowing in. Yeah, and also in the course of the day I might have taken maybe vegetable juice, maybe red cabbage juice, carrot juice, pumpkin. You grind this yourself? Yeah, no, no, no, those ones I don't grind myself. I buy them from people and grind them. All right, so that is your ritual. Nim is a common word I've heard in the morning and right before you go to sleep. What does this nim help you bring? It's morubaina, you know, I know you've heard of it. Some of us have been forced to drink it when we were younger, maybe when you're sick or it's very bitter. I have only interacted with the soap, I've never taken it orally. It has anti-fangol, anti-inflammatory properties, it has anti-bacterial properties. This is something that can heal things like QTI, fangol, infections, it helps with that. And also it helps with beauty, strengthening your immune system. It has a lot of vitamins and antioxidants, you know. So this is something that has a lot, it's a super food. Something that has been classified as a super food is something that has a lot of, it's concentrated with a lot of benefits. So as a nutritionist, you can tell us that foods are classified. They are super foods and we just have food. Yeah, everything is important that grows from the ground. Where does matumbo fall? It has its benefits. Yeah, I don't know matumbo, it's food but it's not a super food. It's not a super food. Most super foods are categorized as a super food. Name, moringa, chia seeds, honey, these are super foods. All right, I can see you have some chia seeds here. You mixed it in water and I like how when I shake it, they get suspended before they can settle down to the ground. This means they are very low in density. Yeah, they're actually not like low in density. Actually the point is to fill your stomach up. For example, in that whole bottle, I just use like a tablespoon and you can see it looks like it's a lot because it swells. So the point, yeah it swells also and it has omega 3. Where do you get your omega 3 from? Fish. Fish, yes. Yeah, but most of us, 99% of us, eat fish that has been fried. So of course it has lost most of its benefits. All right, so the best way to eat your fish is... Maybe omena or maybe the one without deep frying. And also it depends which kind of fish. Fish like salmon which has the highest amount of omega 3. And fish is also very expensive. Very expensive exactly. So this is an alternative? It is an alternative omega 3. Yeah and it's very versatile. You can use it in any diet. You can use it, you can bake with it. I think you've seen it on bread, some wholemeal breads. You can cook with it, you can put it in water, you can put it in your juice. Is it a different system you see? Yes, very different. So this, you say when I have a whole bottle like this and a teaspoon of the seeds, this can take me through the day if that person likes to eat light during the day? No, yeah, yeah. For me, like for example for me, so that I avoid going into a fast food restaurant and eating my grabbing my chips, my fries. I prefer that. You prefer this? Because it keeps me full for longer. All right, talking about fast food and the cost of living. So many people work maybe in the CBD or somewhere far away from home and they eat breakfast at home but they don't want to eat lunch at work because they'll be forced to eat fast food or they'll be forced to spend a lot of money. What are some of the alternatives you can give them? Curry food, that's one of the alternatives. But say you're a man and you know our manha. Men curry were okay. Yes, it's very hard for a man to curry food and even the look that you get when you get your packed lunch at the office. So what are some of the alternatives you can give them? The two snacks or the two seeds? They can do nuts. They can curry fruits. Fruits are easier to curry, right? And you can actually access them. The nuts like peanuts, almonds, those ones are accessible. Water like this with chia seeds and they can do smoothies. Maybe they can curry it when it's over. What else? They're smoothies because you don't need to put it in a big bowl. But mostly nuts and fruits, especially banana. Nuts, fruits. Nuts are very filling. And fruits like bananas. This is something that you can easily access even in town and it's cheaper. And water. Water. Yeah, just water. Let's take it back to basics. Yeah, go back to basics. You can live without food but you can't live without water. You can live without food but you can't live without water. But at some point it's going to catch up with you. You know, I'm a lover of food so much. So let's talk about this honey now. This is very natural honey. This is just one of your products. It's packed to be sold like this but I can still see the wax. I can still see some bees. What is the essence of this first? First of all, honey has a lot of benefits. It's a must have in every household. Apart from colds, apart from making your skin glow, your hair. It has like it even has antifungal properties, antibacterial. You know when bees make this honey, they make it... I think you've heard of propolis. They produce... You have the nutritionist here. I think they produce their own way to protect the key, the small from any outside infection or wherever. So it's in the honey. So honey is a super food. Honey is also categorized as a super food. Yes, it is. With the name and... Name, chia seeds, kinwa. There's a lot of super food. But the common ones, moringa, I think you've heard of that chia seeds, honey. All right. Kuna watu anasema labda, you can translate some of them there because when you say, nim is marubaini. Yeah, marubaini. Instantly understood. So maybe some of them have their names in Swahili. You can mention them. Honey is a sani. I'll help with that. Chia seeds is just chia seeds. Moringa is moringa. Yeah, people know it. It's for moringa. When you go for moringa, for moringa, there's nim is marubaini. Witgrass, I don't, I think mostly, I don't know the Swahili name. It's not that common. We shouldn't really delve into that. All right, so honey, for your skin, it's healthy sugar to be taken already with your drinks, with your tea, with your bread as well. What else can we get from honey? Apart from its healing properties for your body when you drink it and the sugar is healthy. So if you don't want to eat sugar but you still want to sweeten, I would rather use honey than a natural or artificial sweetener. And also for the face, it's a musterizer. It's a preservative. I use it in my butters when I make some of my butters, my oils. I use it as a preservative because it helps to preserve. Instead of me buying a chemical preservative. To preserve. Yeah, honey itself doesn't go bad unless you put other things, honey itself can go for years without going bad. All right. So what you're telling me, I can dip something in honey and it will be like that for a while? No, honey acts like a preservative. If for example I put it in there are people who preserve with it. Like for example the way they say things like lemon, salt, yeah honey is also a preservative unless it's not pure honey. All right. Unless images are. Yeah. All right. So people complain that it's very hard to get original honey. It's very hard. Nadies. There are a lot of fraudsters out there. So how do you know your honey is genuine? I've learned through experience. With taste. With taste. You know when I... But for a layman out there how can they know I'm getting genuine honey? What advice can you give them? Never look at the color because the color will not tell you because it depends where it comes from. Never look at the consistency because it also depends where it comes from. It can be light but that's real honey. It depends where it comes from what the bees ate. Never look at the wax and the bees as well. No, no, no. Not even the wax. Just taste it. That's like the best way I can say. What about your supplier? Of course my supplier I had. Really your supplier? Checking your supplier is also one thing. Yeah, check on it. And also just taste. If you can get a smaller if you want to buy get the smaller package taste it. You will feel it. You will know something that is real and if it's not and if you don't know there are people who know around you because they know some people don't. You can always confirm and consult. Yeah, you can always consult. And when you get that person that sells good honey don't leave them. Don't leave them. It's rare. All right, because it's rare. All right, I'm really interested in this powder right here. Yes. This is a powder and this is something I can go out somewhere and scoop from the ground. Yes. And I've been stepping on it all my life. Yes. I never knew the benefits that come with it. Tell me more about this clay. That's a clay. It's I think you've heard of it bentonite clay, fullasad clay, french clay. This clay is mostly come from areas with volcanic activity. And these places have a lot of minerals. You know, the minerals, the magnesium, the good metals. And also it has, it balances pH. It brightens your skin, not bleach. There's a difference when people talk of brightening. All right. So there's skin brightening and skin lightening. You know, brightening like in the sense that you will glow. You know, your skin will be even. You won't be like here you're dark. You don't need to seek for other sources of glow. Yeah, you won't be dark here and you're brown. You see, I think you've seen people, you know, even me I've had that situation. Maybe you get a sunburn. You're dark here, you're brown here. So yeah, it helps with toning. It helps with that. So how do you use it? You mix it with water. I love mixing it with honey. Like I told you, honey is my everything. So I mix it with honey or rose water. All right. Yeah, rose water. Rose water. Thank you very much. We have just touched on just about a few products that you have for the people out there, but there are so many products that you have as well. So many. All right. Maybe you can share with us your social media handles so they can get to know how to get organic with My social media handles are Zorazara Organics Kenya. That is my Facebook. That is my Instagram. Yeah. All right. Being somebody who studied nutrition in school and now you're into this. Was it easy for you was it easy for you to transition kusum is it the same nurturing the skin it's not yeah nurturing the body from inside. It's not actually there's no transition there. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I always advocate for healing from the inside out. Inside out. And I also mean even spiritually. Healing from when you're not happy on the inside eventually your face will show. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. If yeah. So if it's from the inside out. So your stomach your gut is you know your skin is just an indicator. Your hair is an indicator. So what you say there was no transition. There's no transition there. Nutrition is it's the same thing. For the skin. Work for the skin can work for you. Yeah. For your time you can work for your body from inside out. If it's working for your tummy it's not killing you it's not hurting you it can work for your skin for your hair like honey. As a matter of fact it's the best for your skin. Exactly. Wonderful. If it's fruits or wherever you can do a mask with them at home lemon you can eat it and you can still use it on your face. It will help to remove to reduce black spots you know. As much as you're in this business making some money of it packaging and branding and selling there's something that you're preaching there's something that there's a goal that you have. There's a there's an aim that you have and you're so passionate about it. What is this share it with people as we come to then. I'm really passionate about people changing their perspectives about nature. Mother nature is what is called mother nature it's beautiful and you're beautiful the way you are you're handsome the way you are all you need to do is change your perspective and you know your spiritual the inside you know from your spirit your body your mind and your soul work simultaneously. You can they don't work separately. So if you got them together if you're eating healthier you're thinking right and positively you're putting your God first and you're doing your skin care routine and hair care routine eventually it will show eventually your skin it will show out there you will glow whether you're hungry even if you're hungry people won't know you're hungry you know because you won't look like it you've been able to balance. All right thank you very much for coming through the social media and those one last time so they can get hold of your products. It's Zora Zara Organics Zora Zara Organics if you go you'll get it. All right thank you very much I appreciate you thank you for the insight we are going to talk about the hair you know you All right this today is a special day on quince Wednesday because strength of a woman we have two strength of a woman so this is the first CEO and founder of Zora Zara Zora Zara Organics it's a tank twister we'll be back with the next one so don't go no more