 Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on five, we be living, living, unique hustle, we be big stuff. Check it, check it, check it, this a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm with the lovely, amazing official. Ms. Jamaica, what's going on? None, none, you know my day of work, go on. I want y'all to stop what y'all doing right now, go like, subscribe, follow us on all social media platform, I mean, or Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, everywhere that you can tap in Boss Talk Podcast 101 you can find us, I guarantee you. But if you want to see all our visuals, just definitely go ahead and sign up for our membership. Not just subscribe, but what I mean, sign up for our membership. How you do so is under each and every video, including this one, click the description link, and you'll see another link that says join our membership. Click that, and you can do so, because people see us on an everyday basis and say, ooh, I love your content, keep doing what you're doing, keep pushing it. How you show your appreciation is going ahead and sign up for your membership. Thank you in advance, and we love you, and we're gonna keep pushing this every single day. God bless him. Hey, man, listen, man, we got this guy on here today, y'all, by way of New York, because Lydia and Rob is in the building, man. Stop playing. What's going on, brother? What's happening? Man, listen, man, I got me, hey, listen, hey, listen, all you Puerto Ricans, all you Hispanic, don't try to hate on Boss Talk, we cross over, we cross over. You gotta, and I'm gonna be honest, I follow Boss Talk and I was like, yeah, y'all ain't messing with us, Puerto Ricans are Mexicans. Oh, damn. You must not see, and what's his name running out? No, no, no, which one? Yeah, and she looked, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to remember his name. Yeah, for me, it wasn't that important. Mr. George. That's why George Lopez posted us, too, on George George, but no, but Mr. George is the guy that, but like, Mr. George, Mr. George, this guy here, he works, he's a comedian, though, but he ain't like, he's, he's, he's, he's not a comedian. Oh, here we go, here we go, here's what he's like. He, he, he from the internet age, he ain't even, but you might be the first Puerto Rican. Is he the first Puerto Rican? The only one, you know, so right now, I'm the only, we never had one. We never had, we have a house. Shout out to you, baby, we here, yeah. You make it sound like I'm a pilgrim, you know, like I just crossed the Mayflower, that's how the first slave fell when he got here. I'm the first nigga in New Mexico. How did you, man, we got so much to talk about. I love your New York accent, though. What part of New York are you from? I grew up in the Bronx, in the Bronx, yeah, but then I was at the first Prince of Bel-Air, we moved to the suburbs, so I came in front because if anybody's seen it, they were like, he wasn't in the Bronx, he was in the suburbs. How old were you? Okay, how long did you stay in the Bronx for? I was in the Bronx until I was about 11. So how, so you were born in Manhattan? So 11 and then I was born in Manhattan. Oh, you were born in Manhattan, okay. Yeah, so I was born in Manhattan, I was in the Bronx until about 11 and then my parents moved out, they bought their first house. Okay. You know, one of those things of, you know, moving the family out of the projects, everything, and then we moved to Long Island, which is the suburbs of New York. So how was the change for you as a kid from the Bronx to the Long Island suburbs for you? You know, but when I was even in the Bronx, you know, my parents had put me in Catholic school. Okay. You were in Catholic school? Right up to when we moved, but prior to that, Phrazon Love, who I go on the road with, he lived right around the corner from in the Bronx. Really? You know, I mean, like we had same friends. And you knew him and everything? No, we didn't know each other. Really? And we might've, but you know, we was young. Yeah, yeah. We talked about six, seven years old. So when I said earlier Roxanne Chanteta, the hip hop era, Erie being rocked him, M.C. Shane, stop playing. I'm Africa Bombada. I'm Africa Bombada, man. So my family was, I had a cousin that was down with, at that time it was underground, underground. So rap was not out. So you're talking about Spooni G. Yeah, yeah. Kumo D. So I used to get these on. Bismarcky. All these underground tapes, and Bismarck wasn't even out. He went out. We talked about the seventies. Oh, this is the, oh yeah. You know, rap did start in New York in the seventies. And started in the Bronx. In the Bronx. So when I moved to Long Island, and I used to get these underground tapes, nobody was, you know, and the first commercial album that came out was Sugar Hill Gang. Rap is the last 50, well, they did my wife's, my wife's 50th birthday party. Wow. But they, so learning that, but then, you know, my parents were both in law enforcement. And so I grew up kind of privileged. So I can't say how you grew up with both parents in the household. Yeah, and I still have a lot of children. And how you ended up in doing stuff that you shouldn't be doing that? Yeah, there was a time where happened was when you privileged, that's when you learned that you want to take shortcuts in life. Yeah, yeah. So I was real privileged. I was in college. I got married young. How old were you? I got married at 18. And it's the same wife you have right now? No. Oh, okay. How long were you staying married for? We ended up married. I got married too young. So we figure probably about six years up to about when I was six, seven years, until I was, you know, until I went to jail. Yeah. At least that wasn't a year. At least that wasn't a year cause some people be only married for just a year. Yeah, you know, I grew up in a household mother father. So I believe that I started dating her. She had step-daughters and I felt like, you know, I wasn't going to sleep in someone's bed with their kids around and not be a father type. That's real. That's a real man. So that was how I grew with that. But you know, I took those shortcuts. You know, I wasn't, you know, I wasn't looking to, I should have stayed in college, you know, I had football scholarships. I was, I went to St. John's, but it was one of those things when I was at that mischievous thing about me, you know, I'm spontaneous. Some people say the street was calling. The street was calling, it shouldn't have been calling. You know, so my ear was still to the street a little bit. So I got involved with some, involved with the mob, you know, New York, you can get involved with a lot of things. So what did your dad say? Cause you said he was law enforcement. What did he say? My dad was a cop. He was actually the first police officer in his agency in New York city. So what did he say when you got locked up? When you got, he was in a bad position. He was upset, wasn't he? Yeah, but you know what? My dad kept it real. You know, he never asked me if I did it. He never did it. See, I was just about to ask you, did he know about what you were doing before? No, cause I was out the house. I was out the house raising the family. I'm going to get out of jail cars. Free did you get from him being your father? Well, you know, maybe tickets, but you know, I actually, it put me in a good position in jail. Yeah. Because even though I was also protected by the mob, you know, he, him being who he was. So when you're in jail, you know, you get a level of respect for me though, like, you know, a good fellas type thing, right? And then you get respect because they know your father's law enforcement. But that was, it hurt me in the beginning cause they put me in protective custody. Yeah, yeah. But they did that mainly because there were people snitching against me. They wanted to seem like I was snitching. So once we, once we mutualized that, there was a way we did that. How long did you stay locked up? I was locked up for a little bit over two years. Two years. But I was waiting for trial and I was about to beat trial but I was facing 25 to life on the other end. So they gave me a plea agreement the day before trial. Wow. Cause we had one, I had a big, big, big time power house attorney back then. And it was one of those things that I want to come home. And all my father told me, like I say, he never asked me, did you do it? What he said was, if you feel like you're guilty, you know, then you take your deal. If you feel like you're not guilty and you can do the time, then you plead not guilty. And that's how we made the decision to take the cop out. Cause I knew I wasn't not guilty, you know. At that time I was involved with, that's when the crack game got started, heavy. So I was involved with some people and in the 80s it was on my car robberies going on back then. So that was the charge? Was car robberies? Yeah, more over almost a million dollars in robberies on my car. Wow, man. And you think about it, man, though. Like I said, did you ever, I mean, did y'all get away with anything? Oh, we got away with, oh, we never got caught. That's what I'm saying. So you already had, I was the behind the scenes guy. He had already, he had a, man, sometimes we can come by here. So the robberies, I was at that time, I was 20, that was 22? 22, okay. Bump your head, bump your head and then finally you have to do a stint. So hold on, sorry. But the reason why you and your wife broke up at that time is because she couldn't wait for you to come out. She found out all the dirt. Yeah, while I was in. Also she didn't even know. Well, yeah, because I was a bad boy. But dirt as in female dirt? Female dirt, that was female dirt. She knew about the money. She knew when she opened up a box of cornflakes and it was stuffed with money, she knew I ain't get that from working. That's right. When I worked behind the scenes, I was going to college, I was also a security investigator. So that's where my expertise to the mob. Yeah, so you knew, you knew something. Yeah, so I was the behind the scenes. It wasn't these ruthless guys that go out there with guns and shooting. That's what I was wondering. It was all carefully planned. Back then, remember, there weren't that many cameras, there wasn't that many and there was an honor code back then. So that's what was intriguing to me. How do you change from that into comedy though? Like, how does that go? My whole life, I've created my own obstacles. So we do that. I grew up from a great family, great parents, their deceased, God rest their soul. Now they died early of ailments, but they, I created these obstacles and learned the hard way because we always wanted shortcuts, even though we know better. So at that point, once I got out of jail, it was kind of one of those things where family was more important. And my freedom, when you were in jail, I was locked up with guys, I had cellmates because they had me on a high bail because they knew that I knew a lot of things. So they wanted to make sure I didn't get out. So, and, but tomorrow was also there because that was my behind ties and they never had to threaten me. I knew the code, there's an honor code which nobody cares about today. But in any event, when I was locked up with guys, I was probably still in jail or I've died already. That's right, that's right. And when you see that reality in your life, you know, I remember these guys that a Kentucky fried chicken robbery in Long Island and they killed the manager and the worker. So I'm in jail with these guys, they go to trial, they blow trial. So these guys are doing 50 to life. My cellmate came home from trial. Meanwhile, I know that I'm still waiting for trial and he's all upset. I'm trying to, yo, don't worry about it. You know, you'll be home one day, but really he's facing, he's never coming home. So I'm sitting there and that's why I had to do a reality check. You know, I had kids. I wanted to get out for freedom. So, you know, I kind of made, you know, we all make that little pact with God where we say, listen, this is it. This is it that I'm not gonna do that. If you get me through this, I'm gonna try really hard to be a better person. But even when I'm thinking about, you say you're the behind the scenes person and you dealing with the mob. And when I think about the police with the behind the scenes person, I'm like, okay, I don't really want you. I want all of these people. So, you know, they gonna be trying to pressure you, be like, man, I don't know. I got, see, the good thing was, you know, which is what happens in minority communities. I had great representation. They wasn't the, you know, my lawyers, my lawyer was top notch. So, you know, and I- So you didn't have to go through any of that? They tried it a little bit, but it was one of those things, lawyers involved, boom. And then my dad was law enforcement and my mother. So they couldn't put, they couldn't push, but so much because then at that point, I'm protected on both points. That's real. And then, you know, so, but moving forward, you know, once I got out, you know, the reality of being a single dad, cause then, you know, my wife and I were separated, going through a divorce. So, you know, God, I was at my lowest because at that time I still had to be low key. At the, you know, I had to work a, you know, I didn't have that extra money that I used to have, that F-around money. You had to get used to that. So I had to rebuild from the beginning, you know. So that was, you know, and that was the obstacle I made myself. So, I did, I did, I met, you know, I got another chance, I met my wife, we've been together 30 plus years, congratulations. And we, you know, she's my rock. She don't, she lets me grow, you know, which is what happens. You know, I've been me all my life, but when we had opportunities, you know, we went through the struggles and things like that. So that's how comedy came about. I moved from the East Coast to the West Coast because my family moved out there. Okay. So when I moved to the West Coast, it was, you know, when you grow up in New York, you know, but people think that, right? New Yorkers are just cocky and arrogant. It's not that. You go to New York. I mean, well, look, if we take you here, even here or Arizona, they don't know what a Jamaican is. They know the island for vacation. New York have it everywhere. But I was dating Caribbean women, Guyanese, Jamaican. You go out to Arizona. That's where I ended up moving to. You don't learn that. You don't learn, but you don't know anything about a Jamaican. You don't know anything about curry chicken and that great food, you know, you learn that. You know, you learn that on the New York side, on the big city side. So when I did that, I would see how they treat whites and Mexicans, like the whites really shitted on Mexicans in Arizona. And it was not, it wasn't a prejudice. It was kind of a, it was a self-ignorance of not wanting to know the difference. And I don't, I don't fault people for that. You know, there's those people, KKK people, they believe in that. But when you take, you know, you move around the country, you don't realize that the reason why we're so divided, it's not that we're divided, it's what we grow up to know. Some things are embedded in that. And I've learned that in comedy. I go to different cities. Right now I'm the only Hispanic comic, right? I say Hispanic, because it's different than Mexican. But I'm the only Hispanic comic on the urban circuit that travels and works with the comics that I do. That's what I was going to ask you, like, how did you even get to, how did you know that you could appeal to the crowds that you appeal to? Because I grew up in New York. That New York comedy, some of the, you know, some of the OGs, talent, Rob Stapleton, A.G. White, you know, Mike Troy, these guys out of New York, they were some of the pioneers. They were on the deaf jams. They were on the bad boys of comedy. And you traveled with some of these people. Well, I grew up in comedy, but I had to come back to them. Because I started in Arizona because I wanted to be funny and I love those guys. Who was the first person you went on tour with? My first person, the first person I went on tour ever on the road with was Charlie Murphy. Charlie Murphy? What? Wild Rest in Peace. Charlie Murphy, Rest in Peace. How did you even link with Charlie? Well, Charlie's family. So if you know about the Murphy's, Eddie and Charlie grew up in Roosevelt, New York. I grew up in Uniondale, New York. Their cousin Rich went to school with my younger brother. And I knew Uncle Ray, Rest in Peace, Uncle Ray. Uncle Ray, I met, because that was community based. So I knew Uncle Ray was Eddie's uncle. And then Uncle Ray was in all Eddie Murphy movies. He always had cameos and rolls. And I got my first opportunity from Rich to perform with Charlie. And then... You learned a lot from him. Well, you know, I just learned, I just, you gotta be a student of the game. You know, we was having this conversation about why older comics don't respect. Right. It's not that we don't respect them. It's hard for, that's like in any profession, right? So you guys have a podcast, right? And however long you've been having it. Two years. We've only been around two years. So now that somebody had a podcast that's been doing it for 10 years, might be like, oh, y'all a baby. Y'all only been doing it two years. You guys having, so that's how it is with comedy. In the beginning, I thought I was funny. I used to do a lot of, try to do skit comedy. I used to wear outfits. I always had to come out to music, but I was so attracted to, I grew up in the minority community. So I was always into diversity because I knew whites, I knew blacks, I knew Hispanics, but we just saw each other together as growing up. So in comedy, that's how it really is. So I used to fly from Arizona to New York on my own dime just to do shows and open mics in New York. Cause that's a hard crowd, you know? Cause if I do it on the West coast, I'm doing, I call it chancleta. That's the George Lopez of comedy. That's that Mexican comedy. I don't know what that is, you know? I was, I was. So your comedy changes depends on what city you're going to. Well, how you grow up? Well, my comedy? Yes, your comedy. Well, there's comedy called, like I can do mainstream. Mainstream is white comedy. You do that with white folks and what they like to listen to, you know? Then you do urban comedy, urban comedy. You gotta know, you know, I'm, you know, like people, you know, I'll say it to me, it's not disrespectful. I grew up with it. You know, I'm like, yo, my nigga, what's up? But that's how Puerto Ricans are. Puerto Ricans are like skin black. That's how I grew up. You know, my wife, all my kids are half black. My wife, my ex-wife and my wife are black, you know? So I grew up, you know, like diverse learning that, you know? Then urban comedy to me, I grew up with the Def Jam era. I grew up with the, you know, my mentors was always, you know, Red Fox, Eddie. Man. You know, you know, those sitcoms, you know? And so I networked to do urban comedy. Then I would meet some of the, you know, all these comics that are, I call them the real comics because I'm like, you know, of course, I travel with great and perform with great comics, but the real comics are the ones that pay they rent doing comedy, doing $50 shows, doing three shows a night in different parts of the city, five nights a week just to pay their rent. You know, and they're funny, but they don't really ever make it to that point where they can do a weekend in these comedy clubs because it's a whole political thing. Let me ask you about Charlie Murphy. Like when you first seen him, cause I know it had to hurt you being a child of history when you seen him, it was on, it was on, was it on Empire? Where did we see him? When he, he had started losing weight. Was that on, that was on, it was on power or Empire? Where was it at? I don't remember the story. It was on Empire, but you could see him in those episodes and you knew that he was going through that health crisis. It was kept very quiet with his illness, but anybody behind the scenes would know. So that's, you know. So you knew about it way before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew that he was sick. But then they kept it even, you know, they kept a real low key. We didn't know, nobody knew that. It was terminal. Cause they just kept that really hush hush. Yeah. So then I moved on, you know, actually he took me off the road. He did. Because he had another comic that was opening for him as regular guy. And he and I was a little similar. Then we ended up doing the show. We ended up back in Phoenix. And I was going crazy, you know, like, I didn't know. You got to, and I won't say that this is really what happened, but you got to know your role when you're an opening comedian. Yeah, yeah. The show's not for me. My job is strictly to open up the crowd to get ready for the headline. Get them warmed up. Yeah. And that's hard for- But you learned that over time, right? Well, you learned how to deal with it over time. But because that's the way, there's etiquette to this. Yeah. You know, that's why comics that have come up the long way, they don't, they struggle with some of these comics that want to get that instant fame. There's no such thing as instant fame. You got to be funny wherever you are. Got to put that work in. So I put that work in. Like the first comic that put me under his wing and took me, spent time with me to get better with phase on love. Yeah, that's my boy, man. So, you know, so I mean, we're best friends to this day. That's hard. You know, and, you know, he's never just catered. You know, he's not, he's built a lot of comedians, a lot of comedians that are out there. He's been doing that a long time. Yeah, but, and then, you know, it is, I call him the lazy comic. He should, he should, Why are you calling him that? Because he should be the greatest, you know, but because he's such a great person and a great actor, people sleep on his comic, his comedian angle. Because the comedy angle is what started him. But, you know, he loves his, he loves his acting. Yeah, but people, I still think they don't even, you know, like you've never seen a special and that's his choice that you haven't seen him in his special yet because he wasn't in a rush where everybody's rushing. They want to get the Netflix. They want to get the Netflix. You know, that's not, he's going to do his special when he wants to do his special. Before he retired. He travels when he wants to travel. Do you believe him that he said he going to retire? No. Nobody's my ass dead, crap. I told him no when he came on here. He take time off. He not retire. We not letting him retire. You know why? Because he can't stay, he can't. It's in it. He's going to get bored. He gets bored. He takes breaks. He'll do a couple of movies. He'll come back on the road. He hates the road. That I know he hates airports. He hates the road, you know, but it's in him because. But when y'all go through the airports, that's the one thing I've always wondered. When y'all go through these airports, don't y'all get bombarded by people? Like, can I get teachers, can I get autographs? He can't move, can he? He can't move. That's why he hates the airports. And you know what? He never turns down a picture. A picture. Love it. No matter how much he hates it. Love his fans. You know, because he'll be sitting down and they'll come up. We went to the breakfast yesterday and he was like, oh, the cook came out from the back. The waitress, I don't mean to bother you. Well, yeah, you are. We're trying to eat pancakes right now. And it's not, but people, you got to remember they're the ones that built him. You know, that's why he does what he does. But people do that because they don't know if they'll ever see him again. And you know, you don't realize what he does realize how much joy you bring in this ugly world, especially as a comedic actor or a comedian. Like you ain't going to see, you're not seeing Faizan in a love story without making somebody laugh. Oh, he gon' bring it. He gon' bring it. Whether it be an adventure movie, even his adventure movie. He gon' bring it. Every time. It's funny from the beginning, the lines. But he brings so much joy to people's lives, especially us as comics, that, you know, like I'm on the road also now with Gary Owen. And that was. I've never seen him perform before. So that was through Faizan, right? And it was kind of, it solidified because I was with Faizan. Faizan was doing movies. I wasn't with Faizan for a while. And it was like, yeah, I had an opportunity to go on with Gary. And, you know, I see how these guys live, their lives, you know, Faizan is, of course, at such a level of, with his movies and things like that. But people just bombard him and they get, you know. So we live this life with these comedians. And, you know, I shot a special and we had it on hold because it was a culture, a canceled culture thing going on. Oh. So what's happened is, as comedians, knowing your place, you know, cause we were calling their features, right? Cause that's what they call the comic that opens up for the headliner feature. To me, that's the most important role to a headliner to build someone up. And that's how we learn how to be. Cause some of the best comedians I know are features. You know, they can headline, you know, I can headline, but we don't, we're not ready for that till we learn. That's the argument we was having before about, about country Kevin and all of that, you know. Oh, here we go. I'm not doing this. Well, here's the truth. Country, we ain't never featured for anybody. He didn't. So let me tell you who I work with. Of course, Phazon. He's, I owe him everything. Phazon, Charlie Murphy. And that's the little ones. I've done Intel Givens. I've done Loonel. Wow. I've opened for D.O. Hughley. I've opened for Gary Owen. I've opened for Kevin Ones. I mean, it is, I've worked with all the, when I say the briefs. Seven million females. But how do you, how do you, Kevin, that's a different type of, like his comedy is different. His stand-up is not the same as, it's a different. No, Kevin started, people don't know Kevin. Kevin was right there doing the same, barbecue joints and little comedy clubs. Kevin, that's, you know, now it's because Kevin that you see is commercial. How was it when you was working with him earlier? I did, I did a weekend, right? I just was an open guest. And Kevin is probably one of the, another one of the most smart, smartest businessmen. He's the one that told me to hold on to special because so many people go to him for advice. Yeah. What he did was he started out, getting his first contract, right? Live Nation going on tour. And that, as soon as his contract was over, he didn't sign another one. He created his own company and he created his own tours. So, and then he has his clicker guys that he keeps. And that's what started it. So we had a click and I wanted to go up and Faizan was like, no, you gotta relax, right? Cause his guys were the plus plastic cup boys. We were Faizan's guys. Faizan, we call ourselves nasty boys. So, you know, myself, comedian, Mario Hodge, we were like, we'll eat those guys up. You know, cause we didn't think they were funny. You know, that's just a little competitive edge, you know? But, you know, we learned from these headliners. So you learn from a Faizan, you learn. Faizan gets on, you know, even now at some point, if Faizan doesn't see you grow, he'll give you the advice, he'll give you opportunity, but then you can't get on the road no more. Wow. Cause it's not, there's no disrespect. You gotta go do your own thing. It can't be the same stale bread. You know, that's why, you know, when I got his blessing to go on the road with Gary, it was one of those things was it was like, well, grow. You know, Gary was doing a lot more stages and the only way I can get better was getting on the road and earning a spot. So we gotta earn our spot. You know, funny is, funny, you could be funny in the conversation, right? We can sit here and laugh, but you know, I opened up in Memphis. I opened up in Mississippi, Alabama, Detroit, Florida, West Coast, East Coast. Now I'm a Hispanic comic. I'm opening up for urban shows. I'm doing all these cities. I've done, last year was 35 cities, over 300 shows. And that's where you learn to get better. Cause the crowd, you know, you gotta make that crowd in that city laugh, like Austin, you know, I was just in Austin about four months ago, but then I come back to Austin. You gotta know a little bit about the city who's out here. You know, I would never met you yesterday. I would never think I'd see Jamaican in Austin, you know? And then blacks in Texas are different, you know? Blacks in Texas are different than blacks from the East Coast or some of these big cities. So we, you know, I guess transposing and growing is what makes a better comedian. So. I think the main thing you gotta understand is, when I see, you know, when I come out to see the phase on shows like yesterday, like, I think it's a, it's a different cause you can, the comics are seasoned and you know that you're getting that level of professionalism with the guys that he's choosing. And I think that's what, you know, that, cause I've been going to a lot of shows and you get these, you get like five or six people that's going up in the lineup and they trying to figure out, you know, how to, how to, and it'll be like, he was good, but that one wasn't that good, you know? That wasn't that hot. You know, it's cold and hot. And it's even hard for us. So like, it's hard for us to go on the road cause here's the thing, like, you know, right now, you know, me and scruncho this weekend with phase on, right? And, you know, scruncho is a legend, right? Scruncho is, man, he's such a, He's a beast. He's a beast. And then, you know, this is the first time actually scruncho and I, you know, we knew each other, we worked together. Yeah. So, you know, I gotta be a beast. And then we rotate over for him, he opens for me, but we know what we gotta do. But we're only doing 15 minutes, 20 minutes each. 15, 20 minutes. Where both of us could stay there for an hour. Oh yeah, you can tell. And do our own show. Yeah. So we gotta cut it down, cause that's not our job. Our job is to make sure we should get the crowd ready. You could tell y'all not, not just amateurs that y'all got it, you know? A lot of times, like I said, you go to these shows and it's one hit, then the other one don't hit, then the other one hit. And that's a different type of show. Comedy's like everything else. That's like going to a concert, right? You know, like, you know, you have your, you know, it's, if you go to a level, a lower level show, you're going to get that. You're going to get locals, people that get on stage. So it doesn't, you know, like, I told you, I did, I was on stage over 300 times last year. Wow, last year? Last year alone. So, you know, we doing anywhere from five to 10 shows in a weekend. So you got to learn, you got to learn your set. You got to, then you got to change your set. If you're going back to a city, like I had to do a little bit different because I was in Austin four months ago. So I can't just do the same jokes. And then you just transform into the next year that you're going to return cities. Wow, top, who, top, top three comedians of all time. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive, right? Top three. So I got to go, I got to go Red. Okay, Red Fox, then who? In no order, right? So I'm going to do Red Fox because I, you know, after Red Fox, I would definitely probably have to go, that's going to be, I'm going to say Bernie Mac. Okay, and number three. And that's on style, right? Yeah. And then my third one, I'm going to, I'm definitely going to go and not because he's my guy, but I'm going to go phase on love. Wow. Because that's a real today guy. And that doesn't take from Kevin and Dave. And no Richard Pryor? You know, I like Richard Pryor, right? I don't think he, I don't put him in that smoothness of the way I would do comedy or the way I enjoy it. You know, he, I mean, if I had to, if you told me four, Richard would be four. Yeah. Cause you did, you did Red Fox, man. You like Sarah from the Sun? If you were watching him. Yes. I wrote about, and phase on, it was, we were going to do it right before COVID. But I did, you know, that whole, I learned that from phase on, watching some of these older sitcoms. Like I'm, I'm a fan rich. I grew up with Sanford and son. I grew up with all in the family. So, you know, I wrote a pilot for all in the family modern day with me as the Archie Bunker character. Cause that's how I am. I'm Hispanic, but I'm also a Republican. I'm also, I'm also an equal opportunity prejudice guy. I don't say racist cause it's different, right? Prejudice, I don't like nobody. Be my own people. Black, white, Hispanic, Asians, Indians. It don't matter. That's awesome. That was Archie. I gotta say about everybody. Cause I think that's how you grow up. That's how you keep it real. So that's when I'm on stage, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about little Vittata kids. You all heard me last night. I do a whole thing about that. Cause they be sensitive about Vittata. Vittata was not a big deal, you know? I didn't do it last night cause of time, but I talk about the LGBT and all that nonsense. All of a sudden, everybody wants to be in their own little respect. No, how about you respect everybody? Or you just say who you are? Is that bullying, though, to a point? Bullying what? What's bullying? Meaning, meaning, yeah, me know like them basically. It's, it's reverse bullying. It's, you know, it's reverse bullying. And if you say something like that, you could get it. Like, See, now you telling my joke. Oh, that's it. My, see, I talk about that. So I'm like, why now I gotta figure out what letter you are. If you gay, you gay. Gay take everything, right? Gays, you do some strength for some change. That's good. Right? You go man, man, woman, woman, man, midget, it don't matter. But then you say midget, but you can't say midget. Why? Midget is midget. Me not to, we don't care about midgets. You know, people like, you gotta say small people. No, they know they small. You Vittata, forgive me they don't wanna be small people. Same thing with transgender. I personally feel there's no such thing as transgender. They're not. You either got a penis or you got a vagina. Now, some people are born with both. No, that's her mouth for that. That's another, that letter's not in there. Right? So like I said, it's what anatomically what you are. Right? And then if you wanna be something else, you be something else. Right? Cause it's like this. If you a man and you call yourself a woman and you wanna dress like a woman, knock yourself out. But if you a man and you wanna dress like a woman and you want me to call you a woman, you fucking retarded. That's bullying. That's bullying. Why? Just because I don't wanna call you what you wanna be called. You know, you wanna be a he, she, they, them. We don't care. No, I don't care. It's be who you wanna be. I mean, we all grew up with uncles that we found out was really our, or the reverse of that, you know. Nobody warned us about that. So we ain't worried about that. That's not, but that reverse bullying now, you know, you gotta give them the whole month. The whole month of June, really? We love June. Summer month. And then they just took the rainbow? I love colors. You don't wanna wear colors now? Cause you wear colors, it means some different shit. That mean that you, yeah. Yeah, it mean that you, you wear three colors as a, you a gang. You take it in the ass on Tuesdays or something. We ain't got time to figure that shit out. And growing up, if you said gay was, you're happy. Now gay means something else. Well, gay, you could be, you could be gay and, you know, but gay encompasses everything. Why we gotta break the letters up, right? So that's, that's the stuff that becomes bullying, you know? No, you're exactly right. Like, but that reverse bullying is exactly what it is, right? So as comedians, you know, people say it's hard for, it ain't hard for me either. I've never, sometimes we can't make everybody, but I don't, I never talked down about a race. I never talked down about sexuality. Like when, you know, then that's just being mean, right? That's not comedy, you know? But there's just certain things. You can talk about the things that are attributed, you know, to us, especially at older age, you know, stuff like that. You know, that's all we're trying to talk about. Yeah. You know, and when we talk about the difference between comedy and new comedy and internet comedy, you know, it's just how we see things, you know? I'm gonna take you back, though, for you to transition from New York to LA. How was that for you? What part of LA? What was it? No, Arizona. Arizona. I ain't nothing in Arizona for you to be getting in trouble with. No, no, New York is where I got here. He got it, so you would do slow down in Arizona. You know, Arizona was good. That's when I went and raised him. After he came out, he went on that. Raised a new family, everything up in Arizona. Yeah, Arizona, that's the laid-back area. They got that new stadium there now, a couple years old. No, but they, I mean, everything in Arizona was new. Even the culture was new in Arizona. See, what happens in different states, kind of like Texas, and Texas don't give a fuck. Y'all got that gangsta government, huh? I heard you say a little bit last night, but yeah, he'll roll up on you. Yeah, he roll for real, man. Right? But you know, like, Texas, at first people get afraid of Texas, but what it is, is they just keep it real. Arizona was one of those places, too, and it was a hub, actually, and I just bought a house in Hawaii, so I live in Hawaii. So I go back and forth between Hawaii. Oh, you're talking that different talk now. You got, oh, you got Dern over in Hawaii. WPS. Can you speak the language? Hawaiian? Yeah, yeah, pineapples. Pineapples and pork, that's all they eat over there. How's the wealth in Hawaii? Oh, beautiful. Gorgeous. You said everything in Hawaii is expensive, though. What's it, everyone uses an example. You know how much a gallon of milk is? You know what I'm saying, right? That's how everybody's saying it. Yeah, $7, but how much milk do you drink? I don't even eat drink milk now. I don't drink milk. It's great living. Oh, this is almond milk. Oh, yeah, see, there you go. That's that bullshit, that's that. I don't even know what almond milk is in Jamaica. Knock it off. Goal milk? You should be doing some goal milk with you from Jamaica. I had almond trees in my yard in Jamaica. But yours wasn't squeezing milk out of the almond. Yeah. I did coconut milk. Was he coconut milk? That's real? Yeah, that's real. So when it comes down to, have you been in the movies or you never did you get into the movie scene? The only movies I had scenes in were actually Faizan movies. Oh, Faizan put you on? Faizan put me on. Santa games. Okay, yeah, I know that. Kinda stripped, but I don't even know if I made the cut but I didn't see the movies. So he didn't clip. I said he didn't, because I didn't see the movie. It was in the, it's coming out streaming soon. Oh. That movie's gonna be, that movie's gonna be on fire. It didn't get the love in the theater because it got delayed for two years. But that one had Faizan in it. And when I tell you, you wanna take a comic class. So you have Faizan, Bill Bellamy, I've been on the road with too. So Faizan, Bill Bellamy, Gary Owen, Wesley Snipes, Tiffany Haddish. What? That's the one, I remember he was saying that he had done something the last time we spoke to him. I spent the month in Vegas with them on that? Yeah. How was that? That was probably the highest part of my career. Other than being in the theater. All of them being together like that. Can I love me some Wesley too? Yeah, but when I tell you the funny shit behind the scenes, the stuff that you didn't see, like I was there with comedic geniuses. Like it would probably have been the same as if I was behind the scenes of the movie Life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one to me was even better because you got these, this comic, and Faizan's an improv guy, all of them, Gary. Gary was going through his divorce at the time. So every time Faizan worked by, you ever seen that scene in Prince? When Morris Day walks by the dressing room and he goes, how's the family? Yeah. So Gary was in the middle of his divorce and Faizan would walk by and be in the room and he'd stop back and say, how's the family? Which normally you'd be like, damn, that's fucked up. You know what's Gary's response? Gary was fucked up, he would just look at him but Gary loved Faizan. Like that's what I'm saying, that camaraderie to see Bill Bellamy together with them. J.B. Smoove had stories. That's a cold line up. So when we learn as comedians, so that's to me, that's the growing up in comic. That's what these internet comedians would never see that. I got a chance to be there behind Chris Spencer. How did you play your part in it? Like you knew? I was a bouncer in the strip club. You was a bouncer? I was a bouncer in the strip club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got to do a couple of scenes in that. But it was, that's what you strive for. You're supposed to be mean, you're supposed to be mean. Yeah, but these women, if you show these guys dancing on stage and everything, you would have been cracking. I mean, it was too funny, man. Faizan did any, um, dance scene? Yeah, yeah, I got to show you all. I got to behind the scenes of him dancing. Yeah, he dancing. But he, uh... Faizan here, yo, man. They wanted him to wear a Speedo. He didn't want to wear a Speedo. Yeah, he said, no, I ain't wearing a Speedo. Oh, he was a stripper. Yeah, he was a stripper. He's a male stripper. They come in every time to save the club. So what outfit was he in? Boy, they had tear-offs. Oh, damn. Boy, they're different scenes. But you, and you was a bouncer that night. I was a bouncer at the strip club. Boy, that's hard, man. And you say it's still coming? It came out in August, but the actor strike was out. So it was a nice theater for a couple of weeks. Oh, man. It's coming out to streaming. It's coming out for streaming soon. I think, uh, it got to be a couple of weeks because it's just for distribution purposes. They were just holding it for streaming. Wow, man. But like I said, that's, I mean, being on the road with a Phaezon, being on the road with these guys, like I did a show with me, Phaezon, Bill Bellamy, and Gary Owen, a theater show in El Paso. We did that earlier this year. That was, that was crazy. I mean, just getting on stage with those type of guys are like. For you to, even like I said, for you to appeal to those crowds night after night, city after city, man, that says, that speaks a whole volume to who you are. I'm growing as a comment. That's why people say, oh, people, I don't know you. I'm like, well, that's the way I actually like it. Because when it's ready to know me, then you'll know. You know, like you guys didn't see me until you. I didn't see you. That's right. That was only a little piece. And that's the late night crowd. That wasn't even that, you know. Right. That was okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, when we go out there, you know, we got, I got a job to do. You got to breathe. I got to get them ready. And we got to get ready to go. Man. So if our viewers, if our viewers want to look at you up, IG is probably the best. But I don't do my, I don't do my space no more. So you don't do my space. My AOL, I took the ring over there. You know, it's the old times. My IG is Rob laughs, R-O-B-L-A-F-F-S. Okay. And you like, you like Bobo. So I'm going to give him another shout out. Yeah, no, Rob, because he's a young, up and coming, very frugal, you know, low key guy. You know, he has his market, which is good. Like I said, I don't do the Hispanic market because it was not what I grew up with. Yeah. I didn't grow up in a Hispanic household. I grew up in a regular household and then I grew up urban. You know, I grew up in the Bronx, I grew up in Long Island. You know, I grew up around minorities. You know, my, that's urban comedy to me is the best comedy. So that's, that's where we go hard at, you know. Man, thank you for coming on the show, man. Like, man, like I said, man, I'm going to be watching y'all tonight too, man. I shout out the phase on, man, scrunch old you, man. What y'all doing out here in Austin, Texas, man. We had to come down here. Man, boss talk on a one-clich out. Y'all couldn't step foot in Texas. See, I'm, I'm for the start. Really, y'all going to have to check in. Okay. Y'all niggas ain't going to just keep coming down here to Texas and when y'all come, I'm going to come cook and she going to cook. I'm going to show love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ready for a nap. We doing these interviews after we ate our styles and come up. Yeah. We knew we're going to let phase on, come up here and do it like that. We like, we got to get that wider first, man. It almost didn't come because I was going to go shopping. Yeah. It was coming out. He didn't tell me to the last minute. I'm like, no, we all got to go. He goes, yeah. And then I remember yesterday you said you was cooking. I said, y'all, man. You had to come, man. But no, definitely to give the love. Man, thank you so much, man. Definitely, I'm boss talking. It's definitely a pleasure, my pleasure to be here and I appreciate y'all. No, we appreciate you, man. I appreciate all the success as well. Man, wherever you at, we looking for you now, man. You've been on boss talk on a one, man. What a boss's talk. And we out. Man.