 Okay, welcome once again to the praise and worship course. I hope you all are doing well. Congratulations, you have survived for so long. Before we go ahead, can I request Anitha, if you don't mind, could you just start us off with a prayer please. Father God, we praise you, we worship you a lot. And this morning we gathered here in your presence a lot. I would like to ask you to pledge each one of you, each one of us Lord. Thank you for this day Lord, thank you for everything that you have done in our lives Lord. Thank you for each one of us Lord. We are learning your word Lord, help us to understand that Lord, help us to worship you Lord and help us to glorify your holy name Lord. As we all are learning your word Lord, help us each one of us to apply that in our life Lord and walk according to that Lord. I would like to give pastor Roshan into your hand Lord as he is teaching us Lord, help him Lord. And thank you for everything Lord, in Jesus name you be Lord. Amen. Amen, thank you Anitha. Very in the previous classes we talked on completed the chapter on moving prophetically in praise and worship. If you have to just quickly recap that chapter for us before we go ahead. In the chapter we cover about the connection between music and worship and the connection between the music and the prophetic. And then we look at the music, the prophetic and the worship where all these three elements meet in the tabernacle of David. He understood a little background of the importance of the tabernacle of David. He went about setting it up. There was order, there was proper administration, it was very well planned. So we looked at that, we saw how many singers and musicians were placed, were assembled in the tabernacle of David. And how it kind of mirrors or reflects the new covenant where there is no veil for people to come in, it was available for all to see. It was beautiful, it must have been a beautiful setting. And from Acts chapter 15 we see that God mentioned that he will rebuild the tabernacle of David. And he's continuing to do so. And then we begin to study on the characteristics of a prophetic word. A characteristic of a prophetic word. I just do a quick recap. Some of them was prophetic word can come to us as an impression in our heart. A quickening of the scriptures, a knowing on the inside, pictures, a word, sentence, paragraph, physical sensations, etc. And some of you even shared your experiences on how this prophetic word came to you and what you've had, etc. So those are some of the characteristics of the prophetic word. And what a prophetic word does, it brings edification, it reveals God's plans and purposes. It stirs up and causes us to move in faith, provides motivation and strength to carry on, releases God's power, brings correction and restoration, transforms nation. And then we see that the prophetic word is released as a prophetic song in worship. It accomplishes all that the prophetic word accomplishes, all of everything that we kind of went through. The importance of the prophetic song, the importance of a new song. And basically we completed the chapter by going through some of the practical guidelines of the prophetic worship. And the most important practical guideline or the way how you can prepare yourself is spending time with the Lord, building an intimate relationship with Him. There is no substitute, there is no alternate, there is no shortcut to that. For everything in life, especially when it comes to hearing from Him moving in the prophetic, there is no substitute to it. So that's how we concluded the chapter on moving prophetically in praise and worship. I also thought I'd play another video, it's just another 30 minutes of teaching on the prophetic worship. I thought I'd play that for us. Like I mentioned, it's a 30 minute video and I will request you all to give your 100% attention to it. And please make notes to every key point that is mentioned. It's a wonderful teaching. So here we go, let me go ahead and share this screen. Is that cool? Everybody okay with that? Some of you are like, do I have a choice? Here we go. You know it's funny, I was thinking, when you make your notes late at night or during worship, you have this sound going and it's just so epic. You know what I mean? At night, everything is so epic and then you do a 3-45 session and then you look through your notes and they're not, they're different. It doesn't quite have that music backdrop and that feeling. So I'm not going to try to recreate the feeling of I felt when I wrote these out. So some of this might be amazing and some of it might not be. So we will see. But prophetic worship, I actually changed, I typically would talk about certain things related to prophetic worship but last night and today I kind of changed things up a bit. Corey touched on a bit of it which was really good, amazing communicator. And I want to, some of this might feel like a little bit of a poke, a little bit intense, some of it might feel negative but I think just for me personally, a lot of times people, communication is a big deal and as leaders and as prophetic songwriters and worshipers, communication is everything to us. You know, hearing and then being able to communicate it so it's clear. So just to set myself up, when I had my collapse or whatever, break down two years ago, I'm very passionate about being forward with things and some of you follow me on social media. I'm going to be better moving forward, I promise, because I have a reason. I want to infiltrate those worlds and blow them up from the inside out. But anyways, it's a joke but also true. But when I went through my thing, I was faced with something that comfort did not fix. Comfort didn't fix me, didn't get me out of it. It was blunt truth that the Lord himself threw my way. So I had to face things head on like a lot about what Jason talks about and pull myself up by the bootstraps and commit to things I didn't want to. You know what I mean? So a lot of what I'm going to say today is just it's not, it's not coming from a place of like harshness from my heart, it would be coming from a place of like I really feel like this is true and I really feel like this is going to be helpful if we do this. So just to be clear, but you can look bored and you can look tired and not totally it's fine. I'm not going to need you to just engage. I'm just going to read a bunch and then try to fill in the blanks in between, okay? Now that I wasted four minutes, I'll start with this. It is our responsibility as worship leaders or prophetic worship leaders to posture ourselves like pastors and prophets to the people. A pastor-prophet can see a destination, which is a prophetic role, and also how to lead the people to that destination. A pastor-prophet can see a destination, but that's not enough. God's called us to be prophet pastors, but to know how to communicate, to know how to lead people to that destination. Prophetic worship is, at its foundational level, spirit directed and spirit empowered. John 4-23-24 talks about that. Praise is prophetic when it is directed and empowered by the Holy Spirit to accomplish God's now purpose for our lives or a particular meeting. I feel like the Lord wants us to go from thermometers to thermostats. Now a lot of you have heard this before, it's a great picture of what we are called to be. Thermometer is what? It's something that takes the temperature of a room, right? In our culture and our day, it's easy to be a thermometer and just go, yep, it sucks, or it's good, or like Chris the other day was so funny, he goes, that guy that just goes on there and goes, disappointed. That's so good, because it's easy to take that route and just go, I give it a five or whatever, and just become the judge of all things. And those of you who know me, that's like my default, is to become the judge of all things. There's kind of a joke there. But the Lord, but I feel like, you know, there comes a point in time in each one of our lives where we get so tired of that that God calls us to step out and become the thermostat. And what's a thermostat do? You actually set the temperature in the room. You actually take on the responsibility as a leader, submitted under his rule, and you take on the responsibility of setting the temperature in the room. And I feel like as prophet, pastor, musicians, that's what God, that's why you're here at the school. God's called you to take on that responsibility. And it's really important. It's not enough to be a thermometer. Feelings, let's talk about feelings. Feelings are your best friend and also your worst enemy. Feelings are your best friend and also your worst enemy. Feelings are what gives us insight into a reality, but not necessarily the reality. A reality, but not necessarily the reality. Feelings can give us a heads up, but not always the truth. Feeling out a room and singing a prophetic song is what we do as prophet musicians. But taking the pulse of a room or your own heart and stating the obvious is not the way to beat the devil. We should take the pulse, and if needed, speak the opposite over arching truth that trumps the smaller truth. It's stating the eternal truth, not the temporal truth. Just like in prophecy, you combat the darkness over someone by speaking the opposite. You speak the greater reality versus the lesser reality. Yes, you might have cancer, but it is not the will of the Lord. So the greater reality is to speak out His reality. Prophecy, as Cory was saying, prophecy is to edify, exhort, and comfort, not just to state the obvious, feeling in a room. If someone is depressed, it's not enough to say, I feel like the Lord is saying you're depressed. Yet we do this all the time when it comes to worship and prophetic song. What is God saying or singing about the depression? Sing that, that is what prophecy is. You see where I'm going with this? So we're caught in a thing where, and I love it because I love it when, like they said, I just want to rewrite that a little bit. His reality. Prophecy, as Cory was saying, prophecy is to edify, exhort, and comfort, not just to state the obvious, feeling in a room. If someone is depressed, it's not enough to say, I feel like the Lord is saying you're depressed. Yet we do this all the time when it comes to worship and prophetic song. What is God saying or singing about the depression? Sing that, that is what prophecy is. You see where I'm going with this? So we're caught in a thing where, and I love it because I love it when, like they said, put your intent up. When you're intent up and you're, for me, you're leading worship and you get something, right? And it's just so exciting because you're like, you walk into a room and you feel something. It just makes you feel like you're in tune. God is showing you something. It's why we're alive. It's like our connection to God is everything to us as prophetic musicians. It's our best friend. It is our best friend. And we need to hunger for it. We need to learn how to feel out of room. I'm not trying to dumb that down at all. The only reason I'm saying all this is because we've all done this. I've done this. I probably did it the other day. It is what we have to work against from where I was at. Let's take it a step further. Singing out what your issue is over a crowd will cause a connection. Now here's, this is interesting. I've been kind of thinking about this for years, just kind of trying to figure this out. Even with me when I step out in prophetic song or what I would think these prophetic song, singing out what my issue is over a crowd will cause a connection in the people in the room who have the same issues. That doesn't mean it's right or it's prophetic. For instance, there's a massive need for significance in the world right now. So if we sing about our feelings of insignificance, we will automatically have a large group of people in the audience right there with us. Or even better, on the floor crying with us or hugging each other and crying. Everyone connecting over the same issues in the room isn't the goal of the prophetic song. The reality of what is happening is they are just connecting with your pain and you to theirs. Now, I'll stop there because I want to kind of explain that a little bit more. And it's not a bad thing but sometimes I feel like in our prophetic feeling is we feel something in the room. We feel a weight or we feel whatever. We feel like right now, tired, you know that feeling. And we just, we aid that thing and we almost give encouragement to that thing because I feel it too and you feel it. So therefore we're both feeling it together so it must be, you know what I'm saying? And it's not that it's bad but prophetic is something that always births spiritual victory in the Bible. When you read the Bible, all throughout the Bible the prophetic song is that thing which births spiritual victory. Every prophetic song in the Bible caused breakthrough. It got people from point A to point Z. It got people's heads from down to up. It celebrated the God in people. When he was talking about Nathaniel, I love that story. How God views a cynic. And he goes, this man has no guile, this man has no BS. I love that story. We cannot keep people in their same patterns with our prophetic songs. We must give answers in truth if we open up those types of issues or cans of worms with our prophetic songs. We've got to give them an out. We've got to give them, I look at it like this. Like every song, every prophetic moment it's like an anchor or like a life raft. Like a life raft. So with you write a song and you sing on a prophetic song think of it from that pastoral type of perspective. So I'm throwing out a life raft because there's people in the room right now that are literally out there swimming with no life saver and they're going to die if they don't get a word from God, right? We've all been there. We've all been in places in our lives where if we don't get a word from God, man, we're done, right? And there's nothing wrong with saying like Jason's saying. There's nothing wrong with admitting it and just being open. So a lot of our prophetic is that giving someone a life raft. And a lot of our prophetic too is just the spark that ignites an already existing flame into like a furnace of more passion. God's destiny for our lives is so much bigger and greater than what we perceive or even know. So prophetic is always that pastoral like throwing out life raft throwing out another spark. Encouragement to the people in the room or listening to your albums or whatever. This is an interesting one. Favor allows a person the people's ears, the people's heart, the people's trust whether we speak truth or not. This is a scary thing. So like me, let's say I'm up here and I've gained enough favor in your eyes enough authority to where you believe I'm believable. Maybe my anointing over arches my ability to communicate truth. You know what I'm talking about? You ever seen someone they're so anointed but actually listen to what they're saying. You're like, I'm not so sure that that's, do you know what I'm saying? But you believe it because you're like, they're anointing. They have a charisma about them, a God-given charisma that is bigger than actually their character or their biblical or their theology. We all know what we're talking about, right? Coffee shop theology. It's words without actually standing up to live is what's going on there. So it's a scary thing to be to write a song and then get a bunch of momentum and favor and then apparently everything you say is true. That's kind of what happens. I know this happened for me. People are attracted to passion but not necessarily truth. Passion can be mistaken as freedom which is what everyone wants in their lives. Everyone wants to feel free to be who they're called to be, therefore causing people to think what you're saying or seeing is truth. It's just a scary place to be which is why like Cory was talking about a lot of biblical roots, biblical foundation about what the prophetic song is for, how it originated. It's important that we're reading the word and we're being filled up the right way. Social media threads don't count as reading the word in my opinion. I'm telling myself that. I'm on day three of no social media. It's wonderful. It's great. I'm like, I don't know if I'll ever go back. A generation that wants answers and solutions that don't involve faith is part of our issue. Our entire existence, everything we're built on, everything we are is built on faith and so should our prophetic songs be. I think our prophetic songs at the core need to build faith. They need to not only build faith in the people but cause people to have to step out in faith. Everything we believe in this life is cause of faith. The enemy fights against our faith in confidence full-time. Believing your beliefs and doubting your doubts. Leo Aleska said that and I love that. Believe your beliefs and doubt your doubts. We need to get a backbone. Us leaders need to be intentional in fighting against the thing that causes... Us leaders need to be intentional and fight against the thing that people are listening to. Sorry, I didn't quite write that out right, but whatever. I kind of made it work, I guess. I believe one of the enemy's greatest tactics against profit musicians is confidence. I feel like if he could steal your confidence he's somewhat won the battle. And therefore I think it's important that we spend the majority of our time as prophetic musicians, creative artists who are bent towards sensitivity. Sensitivity can be amazing, a strength of yours, but it also can be your greatest weakness. Being sensitive, being a sensitive person sometimes can be looked at as weaker or feminine. Sensitive. Oh, that guy's sensitive. You know what I mean? Or that girl's sensitive. It's almost... And I joke around about it, to be honest with you. And I joke around about it because I try not to... I don't want to give into the negative part of what that is. Sensitive is our greatest ally. It's that thing in us that allows us to walk into a room and be able to feel a room out like we were talking about. It allows us to receive and then respond to the Holy Spirit. It allows us to create. You realize that we create because of what we receive. We can't worship. We can't even begin to worship God unless we get a revelation of God. So our sensitivity is everything to us. But if the enemy can come against our confidence, make us feel insecure, make us feel unsure, I feel like half that battle's won, especially when it comes to us singing out the Word of God prophetic song over his people. If you're singing out from a root of insecurity, you're not only doing yourself injustice, but you're doing the body of Christ injustice. You're doing the church injustice. It sounds like really intense, I know. It's downer. We need to be intentional and fight against that. Intimacy with God fixes insecurity. I really feel that our time with the Lord is so important. Not that it's more important than the normal average person. And I don't even like that we do that. We say, oh, they're just a normal average person and I'm a creative artist. So therefore I can be this way. I don't even like how we do that. It just kind of happens. But as someone whose job is to somehow feel what God's saying and put it in a poetic song form, that is a reality. And we need to be so rooted in God so that when you get up in front of people, your song, your life, your leadership isn't tainted by unsure insecurity, feelings of inadequacy. Because two things will happen. You'll overcompensate to try to fight against that thing and it can come across as arrogance. Or you will, I would say, undercompensate and you'll cower and you won't step out when God's wanting you to step out. Two things happen. Imagine the church at large, the body of Christ. Imagine the church singing over themselves every week or learning to sing over themselves every week. So in leading I think it's important to train the church to sing themselves into freedom. A lot of times we take on the posture of we are the prophetic voices. We are the prophetic musicians that our job is to sing freedom over the people. We're the saviors. But I think as leaders we need to be training the church to sing themselves into freedom, creating moments in our worship sets where it's just a one and a four, or maybe a six, four, one, five, or maybe a one sus, back to the one. And you allow moments and you encourage the people to sing out your own song or your own prophetic song or even better, sing out in the spirit. Sometimes I try that, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. You go sing out in the spirit and nothing happens and then maybe try it again. Sing out in the spirit or sing out your own song. Put his name on your lips. And what will happen is people need to learn how to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. And unless we create an intentional space for that in our worship times where people can actually like sing over themselves and actually feel the effects of what that does to their lives, a lot of times they'll always wait for you to sing for them. And the pressure that that puts on us on the stage is I don't think it's right. I think it puts an unhealthy pressure. God's yoke is easy as burden is light, but I'm telling you man's yoke is not easy and it's not light. He's the only one that could take the weight of the world on his shoulders to the cross. We are not meant to be able to carry that. So it is our job to train each of the church to sing themselves out of their own funks, out of their own depression, out of their own delusion. Reminding themselves who God is, that's a lot of what we're supposed to do in prophetic worship. Reminding themselves and ourselves who God is, singing out in the spirit or whatever comes to their mind in that atmosphere. Imagine a church that knows how to sing over themselves. Prophetic worship is one way that you can have a face-to-face meeting with God or provide a means for others to encounter him. Prophetic praise and worship enables God's message to be brought or his purpose to be accomplished. In a worship setting, there's a strength in that we should strive for. A face-to-face encounter with God, it doesn't actually say presence in the Bible. Did you guys know that? It says face-to-face. Every time presence is there, it actually means face-to-face. Our prophetic worship should bring people into face-to-face encounter with God. So much happens when a face-to-face encounter with God happens in a meeting. Years of counseling, years of heartache, years of despair, years of addiction can literally break off in a moment. Jason was talking about that. It can break off in a moment, and that's what the prophetic song is for. It's not just a nice sound. It's not just something we do if we can sing really good or we can play really good or we can make up words on the spot really quick. It's not what a prophetic song is or for, but this is what it's for. Before he was talking about it, it's to bring people into breakthrough, the face-to-face encounter with God. I thought of this the other day, and when leading worship, if I can't shake it, I sing it. Last Heaven Come conference, I remember in the middle of worship set, I was just leading and the word epilepsy just kind of popped up on the screen, you know? And I couldn't shake it, so I just started saying about it in the worship set. As a lot of times like we do, you just sing out something and take a risk and then something happens great and nothing and whatever. And one year later, this was just on the last tour, a guy came up to me, a 21-year-old kid came up to me and he said, hey, when you sang out that epilepsy thing at the Heaven Come conference, God healed me. So a year later, I got to see what that one little step. So if I can't shake it, I sing it. If you're going in a worship set with an idea or you woke up in the morning with a thought in your head, pay attention. Pay attention to everything that surrounds a worship set because I feel like God's wanting to speak to you and through you more than you even realize. And a lot of times I miss it because I'm just not vulnerable to His presence. My antenna's not up like Corey was saying. And it's really that simple. Pleasing God usually feels vulnerable and humbling in the moment when it comes to stepping out in prophetic worship. We must become confident in God more than our gifting, whether big or small. Most of us rely on God for what we think we are weak in and not so much what we think we are gifted in. So if I can come up with melodies or lyrics on the spot, the temptation is to push cruise control on and rely on my gift to carry me through the moment. But the prophetic song the Lord has for us is the kind that comes when we partner our gifting with His. It goes from good to otherworldly and that is what a broken world needs. God wants to partner with us. I think it's important that we realize it has nothing to do with our gift, whether big or small. It's just partnering with Him. Some of the greatest men and women of God that we would look at and say they got the greatest gifting didn't start there. It started as a weak little offering and God turned it into a massive strength. Prophets need to be the most confident people around. People who know how to partner with God, people who know their place in God. Are we building faith in God's people with our prophetic songs? Or are we feeding their unbelief? Our songs should be so full of hope they ignite a fire in the people who are facing the hardest, most impossible circumstances in life. They should feel the sense that the sky is the limit with God in every one of our worship sets. Wouldn't that be good? Faith should always be the backbone, the foundation, the cornerstone of our songs. Prophetic praise celebrates the fulfillment of God's promises before they are manifested in the natural realm. Prophetic praise penetrates the atmosphere and pushes back oppression, apathy, fear, and all other effects of spiritual warfare. For seeing the tin, one of my favorite stories in the whole Bible, it says, Saul turned into another man in prophetic praise. I think he was turned into the man God intended him to be. And this is what our prophetic songs should be doing in our churches and gatherings. Turning and shaping his church into who God originally intended them to be. We have that power, that authority, that mantle that God's given us, prophet, pastor, musicians to sing people into existence. With each passing of our songs, it would be like a flame that ignites the thing in them that God is wanting to be ignited. Let me just look through here. Make sure I didn't miss anything. You guys did good, by the way. You didn't look too tired, but... So I think just the heart behind this as I'm wrapping up is viewing prophetic as not just a nice little song that we sing in a worship set, but also from a pastor perspective equipping the church to sing over themselves, creating space for them to step out and sing. And it less being about me coming up with something in front of people and more stewarding a moment like Cory was singing together collectively, hearing what's going on in the crowd and coming into some of the best moments in worship are that which we stop singing and we just start playing and people just start singing or responding to God with nothing on the screen and no leader leading them the further we get into a worship set the less we should actually have to lead people. And they just start erupting in that tequila song of praise the song with the breath of the spirit on it starts to just come out of this one by one of the people and then eventually everyone in the room is singing out their own song to God and I don't know about you, but those moments those are what we live for as worship leaders, as prophetic musicians we live for those moments. It's the empowering moments for the church. And I always hear feedback when those moments happen those are the moments where Bob Jones says that's when the angels come that tequila the high praise of God that's when the angels come that's the praise that God promises in Psalms to inhabit it's the prophetic praise that he promises to inhabit so as you go and you write your songs and you're leading and as we're leading up here just remembering what is prophetic worship it's not just a song or spontaneous moment there's so much more to it prophetic worship there's a result, there's breakthrough there's victory that follows the prophetic song All right Lord, thank you this time Amen So simple and straightforward Look, I realize that he made a lot of points and pretty fast as well but what's good is this is recorded and it will be out there so if you want to watch it again it's available for you to watch it so that's a good thing but was there something that you could take off that video learn from the video some points that you made a note of yeah too much to take your one go yes but then something on the fly you caught this is not available on YouTube but what this recorded because it's I mean this session is recorded and it will be reposted in the stream section so you can watch it a couple of years ago like most of you all are doing I did an online course yeah yeah but quickly I want to share some of the one liners that anything go ahead I think obviously like I said there was too much and I wish we could go back I wanted to tell you like rewind rewind it's few things I think apart from what he said one of the main things that kind of was really spoke to me was where he said people are attracted to passion and your favor can actually cause people to go astray which is of course he phrased it differently but I noted it down here which is scary to think about like when you depend so much on just you just go leaning on your flesh not in the spirit and that is something I definitely learnt and I want to teach to others as well yeah that is one of the main things I took back yeah there is too deep and profound isn't it just think and meditate and re-meditate on it cause passion is so misleading anybody else yeah Divya thank you for sharing yes Divya that's Brian Johnson thermostat versus thermometer yeah that's awesome that's calling us to be a thermostat as in we call to set the temperature in the room change the atmosphere in the room as worshippers our worship should change the atmosphere isn't it a little bit like what we saw the woman that the alabaster jar does is when she breaks her act of worship she fills the room with the fragrance of worship so you know what happened is the atmosphere changed everything changes in the atmosphere so we are called to be something like that yeah yeah sure Divya go ahead I think it might help somebody who who would have missed out at some point yeah thank you Divya has pasted some of her notes I feel free to take it anybody else let me just review what Divya has made prophetic songs birth victory every prophetic songs like the jacket we need to go after the truth and not only passion our prophetic songs should be built out of faith and the prophetic songs would inspire faith being sensitive allows us to be receptive to the Holy Spirit the enemy tries to come against our faith against our confidence we need to be intentional where is that we need to be intentional to fight against this our time with the Lord the Spirit we can train ourselves to sing over a night based on the word of God encourage people to sing out in the Spirit yeah okay yeah thanks Divya yes Divya so I just had a question if I can ask a question sure regarding to I think most of the time I am not a worship leader I have just been playing music which I enjoy in the background but playing with quite a few worship leaders I see there is a lot of difference in their leading yeah and I just wanted to get an idea of like I personally feel that when people start off with a setlist and then go into prophetic prayers my point of view it always seems like the congregation flows better with that versus I see some worship leaders which just go straight into prophetic prayers but they are sometimes standing alone and I could never figure that out because I am not leading of course I trust the worship leader on what they are doing but could you shed some light on that on why that happens or is there something to it sure yeah I mean there is two aspects to it at least from my experience I mean it could be one of the negative aspects of it could be a lack of experience or exposure critical thinking critical decision making I understand what you are talking about so here is the thing experience so there is a house of prayer you know face to face in Bangalore where I lead worship a lot so the atmosphere there is very different for example you know like the audience are different but the band members are different so everything is different right there is this different sense of freedom there are different I mean different people that you are catering to that you are ministering to so you have the liberty and you are not again going for example if I am leading worship at face to face in the house of prayer I am not going to start off with something like unplanned for the sake of starting off with something that is unplanned you know but if I do feel led start off with something that we did not plan because of the atmosphere because of the place the audience and the team that I have I have the liberty to go that way like take risk and go that way but I would not do that in a church setting like APC and in a church setting this is where I would like to like you said what I would also prefer is your plan and then you know move into the prophetic happy midway through the set and what not so at a church like APC or any church for that matter unless I gauge the audience I would not start off with something that is not planned maybe a small chorus in the beginning like for example last Sunday the first song was more upbeat which I had to lead but then I just sang a chorus or you know like couple of times before we went into the first song I think that is okay not because I led I think that's okay because it's a familiar chorus and you know not everybody was playing it was just very simple chords so that was that is okay so and I think it's very important and I say maturity and experience and exposure comes with you understanding the people that you are ministering that you are serving to you know in a church like again like APC there are young people there are middle-aged people there are older people there are people from different backgrounds Methodist, Baptist some Pentecostals etc that's the history of our churches and so knowing the history of the congregation that you are ministering to is very important that's in my opinion so you're not going full-on prophetic for the sake of going prophetic you know but like Brian Johnson he said that it is our responsibility to teach the church about the prophetic as well so they know what you are doing exactly yeah and this I'm not sure if you know this worship leader called Jeremy Riddle and I quote this to my team all the time he said prepare like it depends on you but lead like it depends on God and so we prepare as a team put the song together we are just being sensitive to what God is doing in the room thank you yeah I mean I've also been in places where I have to I feel like starting up with completely different song even in places like a house of prayer but then I also know my musicians and if I know that their year is not good musical skill is is not at the level where that you know if they're not able to handle that particular song I would not do it because it would the whole point of the prophetic or going spontaneous is to serve better isn't it and and if we don't serve better by playing the wrong chords it's just no point isn't it so yeah thanks for the question okay guys thanks for anything else anybody else before we take a break alright as mentioned guys so this video again will be available for you to watch it again so feel free to do that make points yeah and yeah we can go ahead sorry first to interrupt I was just thinking about that video in which he was telling about a particular word came to his mind like epilepsy and maybe one year after he got to hear the you know testimony so I was just curious to know like had you ever had such an experience like while you were leading the worship you had because past rashes would always do the yeah I mean not so for me it's been more of this word intimacy has come that's what I could think of like during moments of worship leading worship I felt that very strongly so these were two words intimacy and deeper is so and I released this it was calling someone it was actually in a life group it was leading worship and I felt like calling someone to a deeper levels of intimacy and I released that and you know just went on so it was later during the week midweek my life group leader message me saying that hey there was this person who actually said that when you released that word it was for him and God's been calling that person to deeper levels of intimacy so yeah that's there's been moments like that not necessarily in terms of healing that's actually it's never happened to me like you know in the middle of worship said for praying for someone with pain and whatnot but I have seen other worship leaders release that yeah it just happened to me okay okay Vastu thank you that's what you're saying yeah but I felt like last time was it the last week when the past rashes was seen you were telling about a pain in the leg oh yeah that was it's amazing how I forgot about it so there was this warmth in my feet you know when during the ministry time it was the end it was very unusual things like that just don't happen to me and you know there's this thing called the risk factor you know there's something unusual that doesn't just happen and you just take the risk be obedient okay just release it as you know I just went ahead and released that word and I was not even sure like if it was something to do with the ankle or just the feet and whatnot I haven't received any testimony back but yeah that was first time sorry to interrupt this week there was a testimony about the pain getting healed there was a testimony about calf muscle pain oh yeah I got that email yeah I saw that they would have pain all through the night and yeah I got okay yeah you got it and you were talking also about an addiction which later on past rashish confirmed like somebody was taking sleeping pills yeah that was amazing too yeah yeah awesome yeah please boy yeah I mean like everything that we've learned in the previous chapters you know every now and then kind of happens in it and the thing is look I just quickly share with this and I let go for a break so I have this friend of mine okay who happens to be a very best friend if still anybody has that he has unusual encounters with the Lord like unusual and I've known him since I was 17 years old and I'm 34 I just confessed my age and on the recording I've known him for a long time that's the point but for the time that I've known him he's had super nice encounters with the Lord like he sees things he sees the angels and throne room and whatnot and I'd be right next to him where is it why am I not seeing anything you know and he would release certain prophetic words that I'd be like what is happening you know I pray with him too I but there was a season where you know I would hunger and thirst for encounters like that you know to be used by God like that but there was also very slightly a chance of me getting offended is like why am I not getting you know do you understand what I'm talking about like like there was this part of me is like why is it not happening to me Lord is there something wrong that I am doing but I never forget this moment okay there was a worship team that came from the US from International House of Prayer to one of the meetings and they were praying for people and I went forward and there was this person who was playing the guitar he laid his hands on me and he said you know God is pleased with you don't be offended by the fact don't be offended that's all these I'm like so if God is releasing certain words certain encounters to certain people and if it's not happening to you through you don't be offended by the fact there's nothing wrong with you or God he wants to use you more than you know you ever know but just keep your heart in check and keep pursuing him you know because we don't pursue him only for the gifts we pursue him because he's a good father and you want to love him so just love on him just continue to love on him and that's one of the most important lessons I've ever learned in my life is not to be offended by the fact that God is not using you or you're not having the supernatural encounters it's okay our job as worshippers is to just love on him just to continually break our alabaster jar at this feet the rest is up to him okay that's the end of my rant I'll stop the recording for now and we can all go for a break