 We've got operating expenses which in essence is everything else so we put everything else in essence into the operating expenses and that totals up down here so if I subtract out those expenses 39066.56 we're at a loss at this point in time for the net income. You also might have some other expenses which are non-operating or non-operating income and expenses down below down here in some cases which would be things that are not part of normal operations therefore you might want another pit stop along the way before you get to net income so you can look at the things that are actually connected to driving revenue and what you can predict will be there again in the future to those things that are not connected or are not normal in the operations and therefore you put them kind of at the bottom.