 joining us to look through the papers Ash Sarkar and Charlie Peters student at Enron University and Ash is the senior editor at the independent media organization Novara Media thank you both for coming to speak to us just want to start on that breaking news there and the Conservative Party saying that this is not a U-turn or some sort of clarification about their promise that they made in their manifesto and it sort of ties into this whole issue of trust that we're talking about this morning particularly with young voters Charlie what do you make about the party having to clarify what they meant in a manifesto well I think it's a great policy and it's a shame that it's been delivered so badly the communication between the public and and the party has been very poor on this and as Faisal was saying it's it's unprecedented in his experience for it's there to be a clarification between the manifesto and the election I mean it's a huge concern I think for young voters we have terrible amounts of intergenerational inequality and asking young taxpayers to subsidize social care for people who are very wealthy the United Kingdom isn't acceptable and I'm glad they're doing this but it's a shame that they've delivered it in such a poor way and communicated it so weekly. Ash do you agree with that? I disagree with that unsurprisingly and the reason why is that Theresa May is known for U-turns right she's not the most consistent politician in the world she performed a U-turn on Brexit and she performed a U-turn on the snap election so why shouldn't it also be the case of social care. The problem with this policy is that the goalpost for what constitutes wealth for the conservatives just keep shifting so on the one hand we're being told that a hundred thousand pounds in assets is more than enough inheritance on the other inheritance tax thresholds are kind of being shifted up right so that the very richest can get away with paying that bit less and I think what we see here is a failure to really tackle the problem at the root which is a comprehensive system for funding health and social care and it doesn't have to come from a kind of parasitic economic relation to young voters we've got over three billion uncollected in corporate tax right uncollected corporate tax and we've got a health and social care funding gap of something around 2.6 billion so it seems to me that we've got these avenues for revenue that are available but a conservative government and conservative party that's unwilling to properly explore them. Let's talk a bit about personality politics then our young editors were saying there that it's becoming more about the people and the attacks on the individuals rather than the policies Charlie what do you make. Yeah I think that's definitely the case Theresa May has attempted to turn this election into her versus Jeremy Corbyn it's every vote for me will improve my chances in the negotiations with the European Union I don't feel as though voters are really engaging with a conservative party really they're being asked of it for Theresa May and that's that's I mean it's good for her it's good for conservative voters because it means that you know they can focus on the weakness of Labour which is Jeremy Corbyn. I think the problem with this presentation of Theresa May is that it's almost asking for a black a blank check for an unprecedented concentration of power in the executive which I think is really bad for any democracy and say what you like about Jeremy Corbyn God knows I often do but he does connect very well with people when it's not mediated by the press and I think then what we have to do is think about alternative ways in which we can get political messages out there right so not simply relying on mainstream or even independent media and start thinking about ways in which community organizing right has seen a political presence in your neighborhood can give you a sense of what political parties and candidates are really all about I want to make sure I ask you both very quickly about tuition fees and what Labour have said this morning Charlie you're a student you're in the middle of your studies under Labour's proposals you would go back to university in September and stop paying yeah good idea terrible idea very bad idea I mean I go to university in Scotland and Scotland has no tuition fees for Scottish students and it's the worst country in the United Kingdom for this is quite a student it's the empirical truth it's the worst it's the worst country going back it's the worst country in the UK for disadvantaged students getting to university when you cut fees you cut investment into education and then you you weaken social ability it's unfortunate to ask workers to fund tuition fees people who can't afford to pay them I reckon that any reform of higher education has to go hand in hand with the restructuring of the employment conditions that you then graduate into so having a very skilled workforce who are burdened with debt right which as it is now over 50 grand often then going into a workforce where they're not going to be able to earn more than say you know 10 pound an hour right they can only dream of kind of meeting the national median wage is clearly bananas so I think you start with higher education and lessening that debt burden but you also pay some attention to employment and the kind of opportunities that are available for people and what's been shown time and time again is that by having a skilled undet burdened workforce means that you end up with better jobs and opportunities for everyone as you come out of it as Charlie thank you very much for coming to speak to us this morning appreciate your time this is all like politics on Sky News coming up next