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He's got no stimulus So you pace up and down up and down and you get to the point where you do it with your eyes closed That's the way that you survive you walk up and down yourself hours and hours and hours and hours and hours day after day after day That's sort of kind of psychological torture warfare ground in a segregation. It's a world upon itself I mean your average inmates not fully versed with the reality what goes on in the segregation unit behind those three closed doors The reality is that they can do what the hell they like and nobody seems to ask any questions They would kick your door in a night time excessively As you're going to sleep as a cat driving crazy the light and all the time Turn the light off and on bang your flap Their job was to make life as uncomfortable as possible and to break you basically Some people see me in these glasses and they might think that I'm wearing to be flashed be different or whatever But I don't for about 22 years in solitary my fucking eyes are so sensitive to life You just don't realize it. I'll get a lot of head-out Are you losing that the walls closing on you you get through it He looked like the Mandarin from Iron Man You sometimes collapse with the state of exactly mental exhaustion and anxiety You become totally numb and alienated towards yourself as well as others You lose your perception of reality and then after a while you become accustomed to it And then the more damaging side of the effect is that you need the block the block becomes somewhat of a cocoon for you It's far easy to curl up into a ball in that little cell and pretend the world don't exist You get to a peak where really you don't mind the door not being open and just for it showed my food in the door If necessary, you don't wish to see other human beings because it's all a very very strange and painful process The dangers are that you risk creating a person three or four times as dangerous as the one you put in there In solitary Charlie has spent countless hours bodybuilding He often does thousands of press-ups in a day and could do 25 with two men on his back Over the years not all prison officers have treated Charlie badly at Belmarsh prison where Jim Dawkins worked They decided to relax his regime When I first heard that Charlie was coming to Belmarsh We just expected to be going home every night with broken noses and black eyes. We found a different side of the man Initially when he arrived we gave him a one-hours exercise a day, which which is the wrong That ain't both of us is ill for setting them up like this Why is he on a picket of fence with the prison in the background and these khakis like that of every prisoner really We began to play badminton scrabble Helped helped him train with Bertha his medicine ball He really was quite intelligent and witty and he had the decency really to treat us Like individuals he never threatened us at all Um, so I just felt and certainly the other guys felt that that he deserved that decency back from us as well So fair Now you always got to go in with a grain of salt thinking like Is it a set up to have been involved in beating Charlie up and Because Charlie was was held on this sort of pedestal Where he was classed as the the most dangerous prisoner in the system Obviously you get your your macho Macho men who decided they they want to knock him off there The the stories that I've heard range from him actually getting his moustache ripped out in one prison He's received broken fingers from officers stamping or kicking him on his hands Using battens to break that or to attempt to break his hands or fingers. Um, he's been kicked In the testicle wow animal pretty much everything really that you could think of But obviously Charlie was always outnumbered sort of At least five six seven or one six to one The prison strategy is to move Charlie regularly Jim Dawkins accompanied him from Belmarsh to Bristol When we arrived at Bristol, there was a heavy amount of prison officers Waiting at the segregation unit what looked like the the biggest screws in the prison at the time We were told we're not Charlie did that care routine that you had with him up there He's he's going to be in the box 23 hours a day and that's it He always makes the effort to take one step forward and then the system seems to push him back two steps I felt sad really that we'd left him in those sort of conditions again Another source of sympathy for Charlie was a psychiatrist who had been invited by the governor of parkhurst to study the prison's hard core of disruptive inmates He was dr. Bob Johnson. We had a very good session. These are really his drawings. These are wild. These are tough I like these. I think look at the nose on that man right there We established a relationship then where he began to trust me and started discussing some of the roots of his emotional problems I discussed his childhood influences because uh, the approach I have to violence and dangerous individuals is that the roots of the Violence and the danger and the risk comes from their childhood experiences Charlie wrote to dr. Johnson for help Here he sees that what he does is what he does not want to do He does not want to suffer from these outbursts these tantrums And he knows that if he takes the steps that he wishes to take these will cut down this will help him He writes to me like this. I write to the home secretary and I get nowhere The reason they deny me access to Charlie. It's actually what I'm doing Is ideologically opposed to what they're doing For dr. Johnson the answer is therapy He goes against the grain What are they doing more and more repression more and more restriction more and more destruction of human rights of his dignity Of his self-esteem more and more destruction. It's appalling He's convinced his work with other inmates like charlie has been a success The evidence that the authority should take into account is the evidence from the special unit I worked at in parkhurst in sea wing there the incidence of violence went right down from one every two months to one every two years That's over 95 reduction in violence I read the papers where he's comes up to these problems. He Trashes his cell or he takes the kidnapping or something and he's going to kill somebody or he's going to kill himself This is a risk Now if we if I got access to him and we could work on these emotional problems these this risk would evaporate Hold on real quick real quick real quick. I'm gonna probably edit this out. Don't even worry about it. Uh, real quick I gotta do something No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna edit it out. Don't worry. Don't worry because I'm still here. You can hear me, right? Okay, then that's all that really matter At the end of the day is that my voice Is carrying through I'm just trying to post this last video man. Y'all y'all y'all understand, right? Y'all probably I don't even know what I'm talking because this coming out the video. It's not going to be there. It's edited It's gonna be an edited version Because at the end of the day I am and will always be one of the best editors on youtube You feel me one of if not the best And I hold that title near and dear to me You feel what I'm saying? Alright, we back told you Y'all ain't even seen most of that Y'all don't even know what I'm talking about When charlie was jailed in 1974 he soon lost contact with his ex-wife Irene and small child michael Irene decided it was best to keep the true identity of michael's father a secret from him I never said anything at all about his dad. He never asked if he'd have asked maybe Irene is bogus He never asked but apparently he used to talk to his sister. She'll always be bogus Well, he didn't like to say anything to me in case he upset me Because I've made a new life. I had a new family. It was a long time ago Irene ain't sh it He was you know, it was really playing on his mind all the time. He's always had a chip on his shoulder about it You know now charlie asks childhood friend ray williams to find his son for him Ray who still knows charlie as mickey peterson tracked down Irene and phoned her It's understandable really why he wants to get in touch. He's been 23 years He's worried about his lad. He really would like to get in touch with his lad I said all he wants to do is know how his son is. I said If you could pass the message on to his son if he doesn't want to know about his dad, he'll Nothing else. Okay. What's she say mentioned about it when ray phoned up I mean, I used to have nightmares about it because when I divorced him when I divorced mick I mean, it was a very long time ago years and years and years a lifetime away I'd had no contact whatsoever with him. I didn't know anything about him Other than what I'd read in the papers And the papers are saying that it's like Hannibal Lecter and he's a maniac and And he was mad and all sorts of but you know that man. You know that man's heart He married you. You know how he really moving so you believe in what the paper said things and it's frightening You believe anything. Oh, he must have he must feel like that now Michael arranged to go with ray to meet his father in wakefield prison. I hate her I've read about him in the past and I thought what what not to you know, I was so nervous It was unbelievable. So we got in the car and I took about two hours to get there And the feelings that go through me were crazy. You know, I Will I like him? Will it get on? You know, what's he look like and is he really as mad as what everyone thinks he is It was just unbelievable. You know the the look on both the faces I couldn't believe it the size of him and that and They're just fetching and don't start crying and jumped over to round up some big cuddler and that and Like even he was crying, you know what I'm doing is like shades It was such a such an emotional time And it is his dad was so proud to see his lad and Young Michael was so made up to see his dad after 23 years He was such a nice person Joe I thought what what's he doing in there? You know after all these years traveling back in the car young Michael He was actually he was actually crying. I mean he was just just couldn't believe you know you've met his dad I said to him I'll keep out of trouble if you keep out of trouble and that and It did get me out of trouble. Does that mean because I think I was going to head that the same way myself I know now that he's not this man yet that the papers make out Because I read his letters to his sense to Mike. I know he's not like that at all. It's just all the press Charlie had promised Michael that he would I don't want to look at her. Oh my gosh, especially yet to come I know now shut up This is the black museum of Gloucestershire Uh, regarded by many as being politically incorrect Uh, it touches on many taboo subjects Can you believe for example? That is a genuine Ku Klux Klan outfit for a three to four year old Yes, I can't believe I believe that the crime through time museum houses the largest private olacross collection in the world Try the place in this part of the museum must go to the celebrity figure Charles Bonson On display there are several items including his fob watch on display Which was given to him from the legendary figure of Ronnie Cray Charlie is a winner and Charlie is a marketable commodity We've got the books about Charlie. We've got the pens. We've got merchandise that includes posters hats videos We've got cd roms. We've got everything floppy disks We've got the film coming out And we've got music CDs for a man that has spent in excess of 23 years in solitary confinement He's been gifted with exceptional strengths. Charlie is everybody's Hero in one way or another and even if it means anti hero We'd all like to be able to get into a cell with a pedophile for half an hour And give them what for there'll be nothing better than going in there with a baseball bat You know getting a pedophile's hand putting it on a concrete plinth And giving it what for But come to now I understand what he's talking about. I feel it But I don't condone this youtube just just to let you know I do not condone Any type of violence that he's talking about I'm just here reacting, but I do feel it I understand it Do what you gotta do So that who would actually do that? No one that all bottle out But when Charlie does that they say yeah, that's right Charlie's done one over Charlie's kicked a pedophile's door in the cell door steel door But the authorities then go oh Charlie's a nasty character. Let's put this propaganda out here about Charlie And let's make him look bad Other certificates for example Which show that he lifted weights with his his beard there's a certificate. I've done 1790 sit-ups in one area with a medicine ball The general public are interested in Charlie because of something called curiosity We're all curious of what goes on somewhere that we can't get at If it was Charlie here now Talking about himself about his life Who may be interested in that they may just go well, yeah We've heard it all before this con and that x con and so I've never heard of but Because they haven't allowed Charlie to talk Because Charlie is inaccessible Charlie to some extent may be a myth And people are intrigued by that. There's many many stories Jan Lam was reported as Amin said that she had the greatest name When Charlie's released take it from me. I think we'll have newspapers. We'll have tv shows Fighting over that man for the first six months to get him on the show And I think there will be an open checkbook there for him But for now that checkbook remains firmly closed Firmly in January last year. Phil Danielson was a local authority teacher working with inmates in a unit at Hull Prison Where Charlie was being kept Heard the door open and the next thing I knew I was on the floor. I knew I'd been thumped And really it wasn't until I heard the voice of the person who'd done it that I knew it was Brompson I soon became aware that all these brave prison officers scarped pretty quickly And I later found out that the other five or six inmates that were on that one get actually gone into their cells and plot themselves in Fairly shortly after that would trash the entire place I believe we were talking about something like 500,000 pounds with the damage And he spent a good half an hour to an hour totally trashing if it moved he trashed it And that only added to my fear because can you imagine the noise? Probably the first three hours were the most frightening time when I was tied up and I thought he was going to kill me Definitely thought he was going to kill me I knew how physically powerful he was. I knew he could probably kill me with one below He actually physically picked me up above his head. That's how strong he is And lifted me and put me on to the snooker table in the middle of the wing And he got to bearing in mind that while he was doing this he was like screaming like a banshee I'm talking here about The guy can physically pick up a very large fridge freezer and throw it up a staircase on his own He taped or tied the big kitchen knife to the end of a pool cue Which effectively made it into a spear He said you keep quiet not that I was making any noise anyway because this knife take your last breath because this knife's going in you Have you ever filmed a movie called dead men walking? He's sitting and forced me to watch dead men walking Which is as you know, I'm sure you know it's susan sarandon and uh, never never seen it Um, it's about a guy who's on death row Well, not the most it's hardly a hollywood musical It's not like somebody popping on the sound of music to cheer everybody up You know, it's hardly sort of um And all all bronzer could say it's a really good film that is really good film, you know And I thought yeah, I know what you're doing that I thought you've got a cruel streak It's not just a poor charlie. You've got a cruel streak because can you imagine how I felt I mean to watch that thing I mean, you know being tied to a chair in front of the television told to watch it and it stood behind me chuckling away at it It took great pride at one point in saying that I was the only one Of his hostages who hadn't physically shit himself Really admire me for that You had them mugs clenched up. What you had just used the bathroom. That's why don't be too proud I know you just used the bathroom. Your goal in life is to get Ordinary humane people to physically shit themselves. Well, I'm sorry But there's something not quite right Yeah, we've been new to that my boy Said that he'd taken me hostage because I was the bastard who'd slagged off his artwork And Actually, that is not true. It never was true We started on his demands. We're going to kuba on a helicopter We want the helicopters to go to kuba. I think some sort of machine guns, which I think he'd seen in some film But eventually charlie agreed to surrender himself Provided he'd be allowed to see the solicitor and that there would be no punishment beating from officers Bizarrely, however, he wanted to extend the siege for a second night He knew that if it went on for us for 44 hours that it would be like the longest and he was looking for the record breaker That's why he did another night. It changed absolutely nothing Half past nine On the Wednesday morning, he said I want you to march in parallel with me backwards and forwards backwards and forwards Backwards and forwards up and down up and down and he said at 10 o'clock He said you just carry on walking. He got to 10 o'clock. I just bolted. I absolutely bolted for that gate Got him out of there more I like to walk in on the beach because it was an image that all the time I was held hostage that I kept conjuring up. I just imagine myself walking on the beach I wonder how life is for like somebody that was held hostage like what what's the ptsd like I'm curious About six months after the incident. I Suppose I had what would be commonly termed a nurse breakdown I'm diagnosed with having post-traumatic stress disorder. See I know it's the end of the siege was only the beginning Still going on You know a career I loved is ruined and I don't know whether I'm going to be able to work Lots of people have been through ideals like this are changed completely because they are damaged And in a sense, that's what I am. I'll never be the same again In february this year charles bronson went to trial for the siege having sacked his lawyers. He attempted to defend himself Shortly before the trial he rehearsed his plea to the jury over the phone to a friend His defense was that the system was to blame because prison had created him A jury's not gonna understand that My window put my lips Against that steel grid And suck in air. I've done nothing on this planet to deserve that My bed somebody else ever fucking go At least want to come out The future power is not a statement right there. That's a great opening argument We almost done Okay on the charge of criminal damage. Do you find charles bronson guilty or not guilty guilty On the charge of the fox's imprisonment. Do you find charles bronson guilty or not guilty guilty? Although nobody knows what is in your mind Your victims all have the same fear That they're about to lose their lives You're dangerous and unpredictable Especially when you're upset and angry Whilst there may not be any mental illness. There is clearly a continuing problem The community at large whether on the outside or in prison deserves some protection from you I consider that you will continue to be a danger Which is why I have to pass a sentence of life imprisonment Charlie will not be eligible to apply for parole before 2010 Okay, we'll be 57 years old When And where our earth can we ever ever consider Releasing him unless he's been raised with the opportunity to rehabilitate himself and address his offending behavior. Come on. 57 I think the system has got a great deal to answer for I think The public need my man went in there for originally for seven years Sentences has been in there for six Educating and the politicians need educating prison is well never killed nobody to be an expensive way of making never sold or drugged people worse Very disappointed in him Wild I've been very very hurt Somehow never ever forget But he's too much. They've been not shall Irene no more I do not want to see Irene. I'm gonna win I'm gonna get out I'm gonna be free. I want to be free Some people might think I'm institutionalized Some people might think I'm sure there's been in there too long They probably say he loves it in prison Well, I fucking don't love it in prison I want to go home Hey, free charlie bronzen, man Teal a little even like, comment, subscribe, turn on your post notification bell