 Hello everyone in this video, I'll be talking about how we can use chat tools such as WhatsApp and telegram to assist us Not only to reach out to your students at this time But also to do some form of formative assessment or real-time assessment to kind of track their learning you know during this period of time, so Before I go on further, let me remind you that with all sorts of assessment going on and tools going on You don't have to adopt this in on your course if you think it's not really suitable So try to look at the print cons before you decide which one is the best for your course, especially in addressing your Course learning objective. So when we talk about Chat, there are other forms of words that you know goes together with chat For example discuss brainstorming talking and all that so chatting is not just about Something very negative or something very useless. It's actually a process of You know engaging in meaningful conversation to ensure that learning take place and you can do it through discussion Can do it through brainstorming to even talk about a case and all that so Chat is just simple or informal Certainly more informal word to cover all these things So you have to bear in mind that in if it's a normal face-to-face setting You are doing discussion or even brainstorming session Then you can always use these chat tools to assist you in that in that process if you want to, right? But when we talk about chat tools or even any other tools online There's always a concern about privacy identity and security if you're using zoom for example Whenever it involves that kind of revelation of identity Like showing your webcam or name and all that doesn't tend to feel a bit insecure and it might not participate that well From another point of view if you talk about chat the same case some ages may not be comfortable sharing your phone number Some students may also be reluctant to share that phone numbers because they do not want the lectures to know their you know their their private Activities and all that especially some lectures who you know tend to stop on students Statuses and all that so these are the things that concerns both actually It's not just for lectures, but also for students So you have to really really be clear about this before you decide where the certain tool is suitable Talking about chat tools for example If you if you let your students know that we're gonna use this for teaching and learning purposes then I think they would be Okay, just that informed earlier from your part if you think that you don't want students to know so much about yourself You know your your phone number and all that you might want to decide using some tools that may not require you to Reveal your phone number or maybe get another sim card like most lectures that you know one one Same card for students and then one sim card for personal stuff But anyway when you talk about privacy identity and security you have to really really concern that it it's not just about you But it's also Students so they may not be willing to participate in your what time and all that if you are not if they are not clear About what you plan to do. Okay, these are some of the key consideration that you should take In terms of whether you should use chat tools for real-time assessment or not Number one is why do you need to use real-time assessment? Where there is a need for you to do this kind of real-time assessment where you can get immediate feedback or You know get instant reply from your students So if there is no need for this then you might want to use the chat tool for a different form of assessment like formative assessment where you can do more like a asynchronous kind of Activities right and after you have decided this Articular purpose then you try to find the best tool to achieve it So like having all this session like today in this in this video. I'll be sharing with you some tools that you can use It doesn't mean that the tools covered are the only the tools that you can you can use you can always explore more tools Right, so we're gonna look at the pro and cons of certain tools And then you decide which one is the best to achieve the purpose Then you also have to decide when is the best time to use it because it's not meant for all the time Sometimes you you might need to use you may need to use chat tool only for certain purposes and once done you tell students Okay, we are done with this then let's move on with other things right should it be given marks You know the carrot and stick kind of concept whether you should use the carrot to really lure them to Apply to participate and all that to be assessed by giving marks or not So we'll be talking about this in a little in this session Well, is it man for all only specific group if you have a big group like 200 students 150 students Then you might not want to have a group with so many students, right? You might want to cater only for specific group. Maybe you use what's up only for those who have Limited access to internet, you know, it's not something that you will do for the rest of the group If you want to do for all go ahead, but you need to find ways to manage them If you have too many students, I do advise you to chunk them up to sleep split them up like, you know, maybe By their group itself, then it's easier for you to monitor You also have to consider whether it's solely depend on you to lead it or you want a student to lead, you know, sometimes in chat It can be out of control. So you might want to have Students who also lead their own discussion and then report back to you or find ways to visualize their kind of discussion It's not just for you to keep on Leading the discussion. They can also discuss and then, you know, report back in a different form or in a form that is Easier for you to assess the problem is what we always see chat as something ledger something Undocumented but actually there's so many ways to document this discussion going on sometimes if you use You know, even what's up if you create a group for them to discuss you'll be surprised the kind of thing that they They talk about so these are the things that we will discuss and let's see whether it works for you if it works you can modify and adapt or, you know, try to improve and Consider the usage. All right. These are some of the common chat tools that we have now Apparently like what's up and Facebook. They are, you know, same company now But what's up is the largest I think so far you have practically everyone having what's up almost those on the net, of course and then you have You have telegram, which is also equally popular. Then you have Facebook Messenger and we chat not so popular now But it's quite huge in China. You have a squad and also you have house party house party is quite new but more of, you know, more of the visual visual call Video call kind of thing and then this court is more people in the gaming community, right? Before we even go further to the tools You also have to take a look at the task right before you even look at which one you want to pick whether it's telegram What's up and whatnot? Please design the task first. Consider what are you planning to do? Like for example? If it's non-assessed, these are the things that you can do and if it's assessed these are the things that you can do But I would like to remind you if you're using what's up for the first time for the purpose of assessment It's always good to start with non-assessed activities first, you know You don't suddenly jump into what's up and tell us and look I'm gonna do Task next week and you go in and blah blah blah So no you try to create that kind of Familiarization first and get everyone into the group first and then start with something purely social just to chat with them You get to know them and all that and sharing some related materials Slowly you can do some ongoing monitoring no marks yet But you just do some guided discussion later now share some example You can even have quick quiz if you want to just to touch the understanding and give them feedbacks on whatever they have done in the course or whatever they have You know completed based on what you asked them to do it can always be supplementary all these activities can be supplementary Means they can do something in the learning management system and then use what's up to kind of test them You know if you want to but at this time if you're talking about having what's that what's up as an assessment Then you might want to consider whether it's suitable for it to be a progressive test or achievement test I personally do not think what's up is suitable for achievement test You know find an exam on all this, but it's really really good for progressive test you can always have what's up as a form of a Place to do discussion logs, you know task-based discussion Something to for them to reflect and even do some performance evaluation But this is not so suitable at this period of time. So but you can always use what's up as a form of disseminating your Material disseminating your learning content and and and all that right so I'll be sharing some example Based on whatever I've shown you now and then once you have decided the task Then you had to consider what kind of submission do you want them to do if your students are mainly with low bandwidth kind of Network then you might want to go for tax base go for dog or tax file less than 100 kilo binds and then images But images also not so advisable But if you need then keep it keep it very low in terms of the file size and use voice node a short voice node In fact the voice node in your what's up, especially you can see you very low bandwidth, and it's one form of every good a very good way of Explaining things to students right rather than recording video if Majority of students or maybe all the students are good in terms of the connection Then you might want to give them video-based materials Images of higher quality you can even have voice longer voice or dogs on PDF But if you have two extreme groups right you have group with very good internet and the other group with very low internet Then I do I do recommend you to have multi stream submission means you have to create two groups One group for this and the other group for that Well, then there may be some this you know this is satisfaction in terms of the need to do more for example Those in high bandwidth if you want them to do video base And then suddenly you request the other group to do text, but that may not be fair So you might want to really consider carefully whether you should go for video base I'm sure not if you have a group of students where they have low bandwidth network right you have to really Consider that or else it should be equal maybe in terms of the submission text base text base But use you provide them options Multi-print multiple stream submission is good because you cater for more because I always I always believe that this you know Let's say in a group of hundred 70 students are with high bandwidth and then 30% of the 30% is the 30 of them have very low bandwidth Sometimes we think too much of the thirsty and then we forgot about the 70 right as much as we want to include the 30% you should not exclude the 70% too right So in a way you have to tell them point blank like okay look you have better internet connection And you have to do slightly you know additional stuff and this this group of student they they Handicap in terms of the internet connection So I do do they'll still do text bit more less the same thing But they are largely text base, but you I want you to have more images for example Meaning multi-stream submission because after all if you design your assessment well What you should be measuring is the content that they produce rather than the former media right you cannot say okay This group produce images, so I give you more marks even though the content may not be that good It shouldn't be like that it should it depends on your rule breaks, right? You have to really decide what are you measuring? So if you if you want to measure skills or Content then it doesn't really matter what kind of what kind of media they submit Just that if you want them if you want to test them in terms of the media Then there will be a different case right for example if you're teaching art You want them to produce video, but this low bandwidth group cannot produce video then suddenly I tend to turn into text base Then it may not be fair right because your rubric Specifically want to test the video Clear so these are the things that you have to consider before you really really Decide how you want to cater for You know for the for different groups of learners to be inclusive Just remember that when you want to be inclusive it doesn't mean you only cater for the low bandwidth group You also have to look at the high-band view group because you don't want them to be left out Just because you are you know lowering down the expectation too much until they feel like what am I doing? I think if you read recently like some colleges private colleges But especially they pay so much and then they the input given by the lectures is so minimal Then they decided to drop out. It's not the issue because when you talk about inclusivity. It's not just It's not just about the lower end of the spectrum. It's also the higher end of the spectrum So I think you have to be humane a bit by considering both ends Don't just be too obsessed with one group and then you forgot the other one if you are really care if you really care about Inclusivity then you should be quite talking about both group right try to cater for both group Okay, let's go for some of the setting that you can do for chat tools whether whether it's WhatsApp or Telegram or anything any any group that you plan to do first one is to set the ground rule of course Set the ground rules clearly, you know, you can put in a chat form But do it in a short and simple language like number one. Do not put ads You know, some students have to put ads do not do not use a certain way of You know replying and all that you try to be clear the grounds earlier So did they know but not too rigid in a way that you specify so many rules that they feel afraid of Joining the group. All right. Number two, allow private responses to your tasks. Yeah, this one is very important Do not set the rule like everyone has to reply in the group, right? Or else by the end of the day if you have 50 students, you have 50 chats, you know that and some students may not be Comfortable ask them to reply privately to you. You can post a question post a task and ask them to reply privately I'll show you a sample later and then also remind them about your uptime and down time Out of time is like your your period of entertaining them during the WhatsApp group or telegram corporate group You have for example, you set the uptime as maybe 11 and then down time by 6 p.m. For example, so anything after 6 p.m. You will reply tomorrow morning So let them be clear about this so they can still ask you during after the downtime But you will entertain them after that, right when you are not really like you they will get replied immediately But if it's an emergency and just so happened you are you are you know reading it Then you can take necessary action if you want to if it's not then be clear of your outtime and down time Well, still you know you get so many chats at night and then you may be Feeling overwhelmed you have to consider about your workload and also commitment as well So be clear of this. Okay In fact number two and number three you can put it in number one means when you set the ground rules You can include number two and number three in your ground rules This is sample for example, if you're talking about tasks I gave a task using WhatsApp here if it's okay with a slightly good of So it's a good connection. You can put PDF like this the good thing about using chat tools like this You get to see the file size like this one's one three one four three one four K kilobyte So and when students see the file size like this, they will download it because it's not so big if you up to the Far and it's 20 megabyte for example, they'll be reluctant to download right and then they'll be telling you I have no data and whatnot. So So if you know that they don't have you know enough Bandwidth or data to work with so you might want to look resize it give clean instruction That's very important and make use of emoji like this not too many emoji But sometimes emoji help to highlight things Okay, then every time you give something even you have text try to include a voice note If you use WhatsApp just press the tag, you know the the microphone icon on your You know on your panel there when you type the text just press it and then say something but here It's good to have that verbal explanation because I know what I notice is even though your instructions clear in the text form A lot of them do not read it clearly and they will still ask you questions, right? Sometimes after you have a spring any time they still ask you okay, what do you want? You know so I know what blah so might as well supplement it with the voice note like in my case my instruction can be in In English then my voice on can be in Malay sometimes So so when I put it in then they they got what I wanted and then they would do it because I Notice voice note even though it feels like it's consuming a lot that I it's not so you can always supplement it with with a voice note Okay, another one that I think is good is to do a little bit of analytics Let's say you you put you put up a chat and you want to know it's not There's no blue ticket for example because if you in in chat group The read receipt part will not be disabled. It can be it's automatically enabled So nobody can turn it off. So even if you turn off your read receipt in the group part, the Readership is automatically automatically on right. So what you can do is you just You know hold if you're using iOS just hold the chat for some time And then this will pop up and then you just take info just click on it info And then you will be able to see things like this Right, you know who actually read it at one time at what time you see here Most of my students actually read it at night or even afternoon. So One thing good is once you know that they read your chat or messages at night Or maybe at a certain hour then you might want to adjust your uptime and downtime Right, sometimes you set your uptime maybe too early for them depends But what I notice the trend is this helps me a lot in Discovering the best time to engage my students For example, if I know that a lot of them are reading at a certain time Then I will make myself available during that time and they can ask me anything All right, also, it's also good to keep track of those who have not read it yet So if you need to realize that a lot of them have not read it Then you identify them and then approach them privately or maybe if they have not and I know really read your private chat Then you might want to Also give them a call at SMS and then and whatnot. So at least they get to how to put it They get to be monitored from different means, right? So it's also shows that you care Sometimes students when they realize that you care about them They somehow will reply to you because they know that you are concerned about them as well No matter how how how you want to think about your students being bad not replying out that sometimes they may be in trouble So it's good to to to really monitor. I say not all means they'll be one or two outliers, right? Outliers even even outliers. They need to be helped You can't be keep on complaining that oh, I don't want to help these two They may have their own problem doesn't matter where this attitude is that kind of problem needs us to help So if you're using Android when you press on the chat How to put it all this feature will come up in a birth there It will appear on on top. So you might want to get yourself familiarized with this feature, okay? This is another example of tasks that you can do on one. What's up? You can always Put them some, you know some instruction like this Try to find out the key concept machine try to give two points Give be clear You know how many points you want and how many words and then don't forget to use hashtag because if you hashtag Is here for easier for you to find when you want to search the chat for example There's so many chat going on in a group if you don't ask them to do the hashtag it will be hard for you to try So it might as well keep tell them immediately that they need to use hashtag if they don't see this You might want to bold it using the feature in the what's that group? All right, you know you can use the text bow and all that but it's good to use hashtag because once you search the Hashtag all the all the chat will appear So try to use this kind of thing if it's telegram is easier the moment Hashtag becomes a link and when you click on it all the all the posting or the same thing will appear together, right? also make use of the Reply privately part, you know like this one reply privately So you can give your instruction and then tell them to reply privately to you so that you don't flirt the That the chat groups with so many replies, you know, sometimes it's it's gonna be overwhelming for you to read through as well So reply private privately, but if you're 150 students then basically you are going to read 150 private messengers So anyway, it's good to personalize this if it's too too many you might want to group them, you know in a small group So that would be easier for you to manage. I leave it to you to decide on this But why is it important to reply privately? I think sometimes students if you're a bit reluctant to reply in the group So they would rather reply privately so give them an option to reply Privately to you and if you don't tell them then they won't know, right? So be clear, all right So as long as you're clear Try to remind them from time to time the ground rule so that they follow it Okay, if you're gonna do quick quiz in WhatsApp, it's a bit harder. What you can do is something like this I don't really recommend it But if you need to, you know after you have given them a text for example, you can do quiz like this one to You know an MPM your answers to me PM means private message All right, so they can just answer that number one number two answer but again, this is just a quick check so if you want to use this as a form of Summative assessment is not really suitable because they you know, there's also is a form of cheating and But but if you do it nicely just to track their progress and ask them to do it To check their own understanding. It will be better and It's not sufficient for them to just submit the answer for you and then you just leave it be So try to give it back as well All right, for example, if a lot of students are answering number two wrongly Then you might want to do a recap in a group. Look a lot of you did not answer number two correctly Let us really look at number two what what went wrong? Maybe you should read back at the text You know, this is the part which is wrong and all that So feedback actually is good in chat if if your feedback is not meaningful then it doesn't help the The learning process and I know that a lot of lectures or educators will spend time using WhatsApp to teach like my case I've been using for so many years Since I don't know 2012 I think and all this It's it's really hard for you to to reply to every single one So sometimes it's good to really a group all the feedback and put it in the group If majority are doing it if not then try to entertain the the person individually I'm trying not to attack students in a group. You know, they don't like it because Once you do it once or twice they they'll be reluctant to reply in a group anymore. I was some lectures who like to You know kind of like point out the mistakes of the students in the group So it's just not a good practice the same thing that we won't do in face-to-face anyway, right? So when it comes to Online chat try to do the same thing. Okay, this is an a sample task If a majority of students or all your students are having good connection, you know internet connection You might want to have this weekly kind of video chat because what's up now allows you to have Eight up to eight people for group video call This is good for language learning and all that or even maybe a quick update of their progress in certain project or assignment You can have this 60 Seconds of pure thought that I normally do for example give them a topic and then earlier and then each student has 60 Seconds to share because you don't want them to talk too much in the video call that would cut down the number of Time spent as well as the data consumed. So do this as a you know You don't have to do it weekly if you don't want to but you can always do it like a frequent engagement Restrooms today can be six tomorrow can be four of them and all that try to engage them in a weekly bus using Using this video call or video group video call available in chat tools like what's up and even and even you know Other tools like Facebook Messenger and all that because I realized students when the moment they know that you care About them you start calling them and doing this They they get very excited and they will complete the task and then you'll be surprised actually you Honestly think you'll be surprised if you start engaging them in Whatever you want to do rather than keep on forcing them to just learn on your own Reading your slides and all that sometimes is good to engage them through this mean I know it's not easy. It takes a lot of your time But it's something worth spending because if you leave them like that Let behind then you are the one who feel very bad about not not really yourself Maybe you feel bad that you're not doing your best for your students So it's really good to show your cat you care about about them, right? So this is this is a telegram telegram allows you to do quiz I'm going to demonstrate this later, but This is somehow one way to to engage your student by using the telegram Quiz tools right telegram has a quiz to a poll poll actually, but they turn it into quiz mode Right now I'm going to explain to you how to use telegram, but I know some of you may have used telegram You know the mobile version But you can always make use of the desktop version just download telegram desktop And install in your PC or Mac telegram desktop is a bit from what's up that what's up is web-based actually so If you're not connected to the internet, whatever you do here, sometimes it does it cannot be synchronized The good thing about what telegram desktop is you can still put your things here once you get connected You will be sync right you'll be synchronized with the mobile version and all that so you can register Mobile version first. I mean register your phone number with a mobile version one thing good about Telegram is that you do not have to review your phone number if you don't want to so you go to edit setting and then Under privacy and security you can actually see here pro number nobody So what you need to do is to just give the username to your students Like in my case is keman xp So I'll just tell student search for keman xp and can you can add me in if you want to right? So this is one thing good about telegram if you're concerned about letting students know about your phone number So this is one way to solve it. Okay then of course the point of using telegram what Desktop is like it's easier to type if you have a lot of things to monitor This is the best way to use it because in the mobile version sometimes you get the leap You know your your mobile storage can be full and then you'll be hard So you can just install it first and then you can uninstall the mobile version if you if you want to So let's say I have a group here. Hi everyone Okay, and then I can upload the text imagine I upload the text the text can be in a form of PDF or images up to you Let's say you want them to read and then you want to want them to answer quiz in the mobile version You just have to click insert and then there's one option called poll But in the desktop version you have to go to the three dots up here create poll Then activate the quiz mode and remove a normal anonymous voting because if you don't you know If you put anonymous then you don't know who actually have answered it So just type the question here based on the text What happened to Ali right he left school He Went to town He just stay At home Okay, for example can add more and more if you want to but let's say I have three then because it's a quiz mode Then you have to pick the answer. Maybe the answer is he left school Then it also have an explanation if they got it wrong user will see this comment after choosing a wrong answer that is Not correct. Oh, that is not quite Correct, please read paragraph One example, you can always use this to test reading comprehension, you know A quick quiz on certain things and all that but if you want to measure it as a Summative assessment that find the exam that would not be suitable because after all they can cheat, right? They can always ask their friend and all that but if you want to do a quick real-time assessment All right real-time assessment or testing how much they know a certain topic and you're there Then you'll be good So everyone will wait for you to pose the question and everyone start answering okay So you can always set the time like tell the student at 2 a.m. Later I will release a quiz or they will be waiting for you and then you just release it some questions, okay? And so if I pick one he left school you see the effect here, right? So you get that that cheerful Explanation if you click here if they got it wrong then they will they will see the Displanation so this is one way to make use of a telegram quiz You can even use hashtag task one like I mentioned just now in what's up It's manual but in telegram if you click this one It will highlight all the posts that you have tagged with this is very interesting and very nice to use I love to use this kind of Task you know hashtag to to to monitor or to label my tasks and it would be easier It also had it comes to this export chat history, right? Let's say you have done with the whole semester. You want to export just export it And then you want to export everything or just photos or voice messages read the messages or because the text will be Exported you know always export everything so that you keep a lock or what happened So if MQ a I see what no one need to be done. This is this is where you have a proof All right things like that. So Telegram is quite flexible in that way What's up allows you to export as well in a email you can email the whole chat log But it's bit tricky to retrieve the file, right? So telegram will be easier. So Try to give try to test it out some student love Telegram some sort of love what's up, but based on my Testing so far of the all these years both are quite okay in terms of the connection or bandwidth usage It doesn't conceal a lot of bandwidth and the good thing about telegram is you can just post something once the internet is available It will be it will be shared if you don't want to use if you don't want to use a what's up Telegram and all that you can always make use of the chat tools in In illyp in illyp. We have chat tools not so interactive But you can always specify the time That's the thing can come in and then they can chat with you or if you don't want them to check with you You can create the chat for students and they can come in and do the chat so that everything is visualized or you know Verbalize in the form of text and then you can save the chat session For your you know, whatever you want to do if you want to assess them Then you can assess them through the chat lock right the lock of the chat activities Another way is to use padlet palette is very nice in padlet There's so many format for you to choose one of the format that I love the most is the The column one the shelf format where you can actually specify something that they have done offline Or even some materials like this one I put something which is they have done offline and then I ask them to discuss it is this by group of course, right? Sometimes when you discuss Without verbalizing you don't know what happened. So it's good for them to write it down, right? So padlet is one way to to engage this and I know you can always give topics up there Right different topics you need one you need to and then they can start talking about it, right? Padlet also have back channel format where it's something like a chat But it's not really suitable for group discussion because it's like one liner kind of thing So not really suitable for for group kind of log So what happened is you can let them discuss and then all this platform that padlet and whatnot whatever they put here will be the platform for you to gather the The chat log and then if you want to give marks for that then you can give if you don't want it It's okay. Just let them discuss. It's a platform for them to Talk about some issues or some topics and for you to see whether they are on the right track. Okay, so This is this card not so popular among Lectures but some some kind of you know to another tool for you to use if you engage your students in group You can because it's like telegram you can create groups and then they can join and then any topic of interest you can share it's quite similar to quite similar to Telegram, but this is more sort of more popular among the gamers So the younger ones that you know students in pre-o. They love this because they're so into gaming All right, so you ask your learners right because you know them better breaks, you know Whatever tools you want to use what's up, you know telegram, whatever it is It still goes back to your rubric. What are you measuring? Actually, are you measuring what matters if you are measuring activities in terms of participation and all that the sample here Then you can use Preside of rubrics if you are not sure about which rubric to use you can always search or you can ask the experts We have so many experts in assessment in in Unimas or even you can always ask those from other universities If you're talking about discussion alone, you can have a rubric like this So let's say I carried out a discussion in that in the WhatsApp group I can always save the whole WhatsApp chat log right keep it as my document and then I use a rubric to measure it So if I create different groups, I can always measure them using my my rubric whether it's the terms of topic relevance or Sultans if justification and all that or even Timeliness whether the way they they explain things if I talk about Language I can talk about the corporation the term taking and all that so it really depends on what you want to put in your rubrics And from that you decide how do you want to keep all those chat and discussion going on? so The good thing about having all this chat is everything is verbalized in terms of Text format or even voice or even video or these are the things that we can keep if you do it in class If you have five students sitting and then you have you can't really record them You don't know what's happening right? They may be talking about something else But if you have a group where everything is verbalized, you know, right and then documented It actually gives a better way of measuring right it give you better Better resource rely on in giving them the marks or giving them the Points if you want to give marks if you do not want to give marks and it's okay, right? So these are the video tutorials that you can refer to I have a few if you want to learn more about what's up And also telegram you can also follow Professor of the current alias from ESM because he shared a few tips on how to use what's up in telegram For low band with usage. I think that's all for me If you have further question, you can ask me If you need help, let me know I'll be more than happy to assist you. Just just try it You know do it and then let me know whether it works for you But if it doesn't work out well for you, don't be disappointed. I think we are in the period where in a situation Where which is unprecedented and we are all exploring we're all learning So don't be too harsh on yourself that you know, everything doesn't seem to work Well, just stay calm keep calm try to explore more to try to reach out to your students Even it's low bandwidth high bandwidth You try to reach out to them if you have no internet network at all students with no internet network at all Then you might want to go for the conventional way like like my case I actually use post postage I you know let the student post the work to me and all that these are the things that we have to do at This moment. Unfortunately, it's not comfortable But something that we need to explore together and we cannot work alone actually If you need help, let me know and think that's all from my sharing. Thank you very much for listening I know it's been tough on some of you to do this kind of transition to online learning But I do hope that you stay strong and don't be too You know walk down by the negativity around us try to keep just to try to keep yourself Excited about what lies ahead and let's do this together. Thank you very much